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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 27, 2018

Lots of chatter preparing us for the possibility of Buster not being ready for opening day. If he’s a week late then you can chalk pretty much any loss in the first 7 games of the season up to the dumbass mismanagement of the team by Sabean and anyone else in charge of that petrified move.

I’m sorry I questioned Boch yesterday for bringing in Melancon on Sat. Obviously he needs to see if Melancon is healed enough to help the team in a high leverage situation. And we should all be happy if Double M has taken another step in the healing process to be counted on next season…..

Now, please, pretty please with sugar on top, trade Andrew McCutchen this week….

Pretty unseasonably cool weather out here this month. San Francisco hasn’t see the temps his 70 degrees since August 9th. Trip out on that, east coasters.

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  1. willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:25 am

    I think Niners fans would tell you SF seems to get better weather for football season. Everyone has frozen their asses off once sun shifted for day games at Stick. Good luck trying to light smoke in dirt lot afterwards too.

    Any contribution from M is gratefully rec’d, esp this time of year when pen guys are showing wear and tear. Not just Giants either, it happens everywhere.

    Once Beatles music took off there were more TV shows with music on them beside D Clark and Am Bandstand, with the artists lip synching their hits.
    Since to this day I have zero dancing skills, watching crowd on floor on these shows was a trip. A guy called Famous Hooks (only in LA) was on that show with his partner, some beautiful black gal, fabulous dancers.

    I distinctly recall seeing a weekly program in ’60s from Philly with a white DJ guy playing mostly soul music and a crowd full of mostly black dancers. Guy’s stage name was Hy Lit. Out here there wasn’t anything like this in deepest darkest suburbia.

  2. sandog said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:29 am

    Trading Cutch makes no sense. We need him next year to help us remain competitive. Yeah, 18 mil would be an overpay, but we can handle it for one year. Plus, I think he’d probably turn us down anyway and then we get a draft pick we could use big time.
    We didn’t shut Buster down because we were still in it. DId we have a great chance? No, but we were in the hunt. You gotta ride those chances out when they come along.
    Props to you for the Melancon/Bochy love.

    • Flavor said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:34 am

      we have nothing in the outfield. Without looking at the FA crop for this winter, I’m guessing we can get 2 OF’s who would meet or exceed what Cutch could do (and would probably cost less than 18 mil). And really this has more to do with an organizational shift AWAY from paying vets big deals. I’m tired of it. It doesn’t work anymore.

    • gianthead said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:55 am

      See ya Cutch…

      • gianthead said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:55 am

        Ham sandwiches are a fair deal…

  3. willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:37 am

    What I read about the Garcia kid they called up to back up Hundley wasn’t real complimentary. He hasn’t hit much despite being 2nd round pick 2014 and has had 2 concussions in the minors. Asking Hundley to C every day and reverse roles for another month will take its toll on him, rest assured.

    In the MLBTR story about posey having the surgery there were blogger comments on Giants C back ups which of course over the were mostly fails like Hacktor and Susac. C Stewart just got DFA’d by Braves. 2011 was just awful watching the Prez and him behind the plate.

    • Lurker John said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:23 am

      It’s only for a month. I’m sure Hundley will be fine. I wonder if Bart will get a September call-up.

      • chipower9 said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:51 am

        I will be very surprised if he gets the call. I don’t think they want to start the clock on him so soon, and he has minimal minor league experience.

  4. alleykat69 said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Have the worse OF in baseball power wise, where’s the big thumper going to come from?
    Heliot? not ready, Honky Oaf? always hurt..
    You need power at 1st&3rd kinda have that, but you need it in the outfield as well and it’s not there..

    • Lurker John said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:27 am

      There’s not going to be a big thumper, unless one of the aforementioned develops into one down the road. The Giants just seem to be wholly unconcerned with playing the power game, because they play in a “pitcher’s park.”

  5. willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:00 am

    The FA guys on the list I saw not named Machado or Harper are all 30 yrs old +. MLBTR has a list updated spring of this year. Best OF option I saw was M Brantley, good hitter with injury hist and oh btw bats LH.

    Still don’t buy the idea anyone over 30 sucks and will fall apart soon. Exhibit A: M Carpenter of STL. M Kemp has unfortunately been pretty good pick up for Dodgers too.

    • willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:30 am

      Brantley will be 32 next May and makes $11.5 mil this year. Dubious SF can find better and younger hitter as FA OF. Plus he missed all of 2016 and only played 90 some games last year.
      Don’t care about cheaper player, only finding a better one. As Loo said, too bad SF missed out on Marlins trade sweepstakes.

  6. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:43 am

    Come on. Hell to the no to Cutch. He plays poor defense and is hologramming himself back to Pittsburgh. He barely wants to be here and his play shows it.

    Little power and indifferent defense for $18 mill? Fuck that. Play all the AAAers before going down that road.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:06 am

      His little power is by far better then any other outfielder they have, but yeah they should move him, for a couple more slap hitters..
      You can’t compete with 3 outfielders next year that will get you 10-15( generous on my part)HR’s once Gorky comes off his roids.,

  7. gianthead said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:52 am

    First of all, I was trying to look through comments from the weekend late last night and dirt’s dig had me laughing my arse off…getting potd tops it all off.

    Technically I am not working for Commerce directly now. Accepted a senior position with the new Director of the Patent Office after I was able to get him confirmed through the Senate 97-0:)

    It is going to be mid-90s here all week and humid as hell. I am rethinking an invite to play at Trump National tomorrow..

    • sandog said, on August 27, 2018 at 10:04 am

      G-Head navigating The Swamp flawlessly!

      • gianthead said, on August 27, 2018 at 10:41 am

        Name of the game…I am prepping to insulate new boss if dems do take over the House…

  8. gianthead said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:02 am

    Yeah this team remained more competitive than I thought they would and especially with the injuries to our 1-3 starters and various position players…

    But if mgmt thinks they can continue to patch the lineup with over-paid vets, let everyone take a look at what the Phillies have done to rebuild and to rebuild their lineup entirely based on drafts and their minor leagues. That has to be the model and we need mgmt and a coach who can see through a proper rebuild.

    The Phillies have built a competitive team and watch them land Trout in 2019 and bulk up their pitching and they will compete for a pennant.

    • gianthead said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:04 am

      And there is free agent squat this year. If we dont spend the year playing every potential prospect and trading what we can, all we will be doing is sustaining a mediocre team playing. 500 ball instead of a proper rebuild…

    • chipower9 said, on August 27, 2018 at 10:01 am

      A rebuild like that is problematic for this team with all of the contracts on which they are locked-in. It will be a couple of years before they start turning this thing over with a host of fresh faces. Sabean said it, and it will happen…expect incremental changes for the next couple of years.

      • gianthead said, on August 27, 2018 at 10:43 am

        I agree that is likely the path…and that is a horrendous mistake. They attempted to get one more year out of this team and it fizzled..

  9. snarkk said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:14 am

    Listen to McCutchen’s interview by Marty Lurie on Lurie’s website podcast, done several weeks ago. The dude doesn’t like right field at ATT. Sounds like he is passing time here, doesn’t want to be here, without coming out and saying so. Make his wish come true…

    • sandog said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:54 am

      Sounds like he’ll turn down the QO. Awesome!

      • gianthead said, on August 27, 2018 at 10:44 am

        He ain’t getting $18 mill anywhere else dawg..

      • sandog said, on August 27, 2018 at 11:32 am

        True, but the desire to go back to Pitt, or get a multi year deal, or get out of our park might override that.
        We gotta take some chances to get out of this hole we’re in. Offering the QO to Cutch is one risk we need to take. Inking Bum to a long term deal asap is another.

  10. chipower9 said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:57 am

    Was busy as hell working on the motorcycles this weekend (prepping my ‘05 Road King to sell her), so had minimal Flap action.

    I am sure you guys covered this, but those “nickname” unis were butt fucking ugly, IMO. Fucking lame ass idea.

    Not sure if you guys saw it, or it it was commented on, but Bochy on yesterday’s post game was talking about them “going on a little run” and “gettin’ back in it.” Really? Pass the pipe, Bruce.

    I am a BIG NO on Cutch @ $18 mil. They can get similar production for a year, for a lot less coin. Plus, as others have alluded, the dude flat out sucks in the field.

  11. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 10:19 am

    Garcia missed nearly all of 2016 with what was called a ‘facial fracture’. Don’t know what the details of that are, but he then had a concussion in 2017 as well but he only missed a couple weeks and hasn’t felt any aftereffects.

    “NAME HERE” wasn’t bad for a nickname.

    Tell ya one thing, it would be funny to see the Giants reel off 6 in a row vs AZ snd the Mets. Although all that would do is help the Dodgers.

  12. Flavor said, on August 27, 2018 at 11:19 am

    NOBODY is giving McCutchen 18 million dollars. For one year. For 3. Maybe 4 or 5. And if there’s a lost first round pick attached to the offer than there’s even less than a zero chance he’d get the offer. Dude is at the end of the road without a big offer coming in. Of course he’d take 18 mil for a season. That’s not ever a question. I’d like to hear the context this was discussed on Lurie’s show, anyone got a link?

    • snarkk said, on August 27, 2018 at 11:59 am

      He didn’t discuss contract stuff with Lurie. Only touchy feely and especially how tough it’s been for him in RF at ATT. Seemed not happy…

      • snarkk said, on August 27, 2018 at 12:26 pm

        Check loveofthegameproductions.com and the August archives for McCutchen interview. One of Marty’s ladies did the interview. He seems more focused in having his wife and son on the road with him than getting his S together in the outfield…

    • blade3colorado said, on August 27, 2018 at 6:54 pm

      What you said . . . Ludicrous that this less than zero hologram is even being discussed as a potential return. Even more hilarious is that a team would match an $18 million dollar QO . . . What am I saying???? In effect, if our dumbass FO gives him that $18 gazillion QO, I will personally return from Vietnam to Willie Mays Plaza and bring the rope for Sabes and Evans lynching. 😉

  13. alleykat69 said, on August 27, 2018 at 12:15 pm

    I don’t know if it’s it triple’s alley, the angles of the walls in right/right center and the huge amount players play off RF line to comprar-te the gap, but over the years only Winn, Pence, and a smaller degree Scheirholtz are the only Giant players that could do it…,

  14. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    Cutch isn’t misplaying ball off the wall. He’s misplaying shit hit at or near him.

    • Lurker John said, on August 27, 2018 at 6:37 pm

      That’s true. He’s gotten a lot of bad reads on balls in the air this year.

  15. xoot said, on August 27, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    Good article from Baggarly on Buster’s hip surgery (The Athletic). The crucial part:

    “During the procedure, the surgeon will address the bony impingement by shaving down bone either on the ball or the socket, removing the “bone spur” that collides with the labrum every time the hip is flexed. The tear in the labrum is repaired by stapling or suturing the torn piece back onto the rim of the hip socket.

    “If the surgery is limited to “just” those procedures, Posey is likely to return to play closer to six months after the surgery.

    “But here’s the unknown. Labrums are made of cartilage, a type that can be repaired.

    “What nobody knows, and won’t until the surgeon completes the surgery, is the extent of the damage to the other cartilage in the hip, the articular cartilage that lines the joint, which can’t be so easily repaired.

    “This is critically important because both the short- and long-term recovery will hinge on the amount of damage to this cartilage. If there is arthritis in the hip joint, necessitating the inclusion of a procedure called microfracture — used to repair damaged cartilage by poking small holes in the joint surface to stimulate growth of a new, scar-like layer of cartilage — the recovery will be longer and a return to catching potentially more difficult, primarily because that new layer cartilage isn’t as good as the old, with less ability to protect the joint.”

    • chipower9 said, on August 27, 2018 at 2:44 pm

      Thanks, Mike. I had microfracture surgery on one of my ankles. And while my ankle is better now than before, it does flare-up once in a while. I got the same line from my surgeon, that the “pseudo-cartilage” created from the procedure is not as resilient as the original. Will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 27, 2018 at 2:55 pm

      Can’t they just take some of Belt’s vag stem cells and grow some new cartilage for Posey or something?

      • Flavor said, on August 27, 2018 at 2:56 pm

        lol! Oh man, I needed that laugh, thanks

      • xoot said, on August 27, 2018 at 6:20 pm

        the new and improved Belt would kick your ass for a joke like that, and then never think about it in the field

        https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

      • Lurker John said, on August 27, 2018 at 6:38 pm

        LOL. That’s brutal.

  16. zumiee said, on August 27, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    On yesterday’s thread, thanks for all the Beatles stuff, you cool Flappers. I had never seen the car karaoke episode. Very nice!
    And the deconstruction of the opening chord to A Hard Day’s Night, very cool!
    And the Hey Jude video, an awesome video!

  17. zumiee said, on August 27, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    The Giants have done well against the NL West so far this season. Unfortunately, not so well against a bunch of other divisions.

  18. djloo27 said, on August 27, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    I’m pretty sure they’ll find a taker for McCutchen by 8/31.
    Someone will sign him next season for $ 5 million at most…

    • snarkk said, on August 27, 2018 at 6:30 pm

      I’d guess he’s back in Pittsburgh…

  19. Flavor said, on August 27, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    Mac’s girlfriend blogged about this ordeal. Heavy stuff
    http://thelymeygypsy.com/2018/08/27/dealing-with-macs-concussion/

  20. Lurker John said, on August 27, 2018 at 6:46 pm

    That’s very revealing. It’s so easy to underestimate what someone is going through with a concussion, but an insider’s perspective really hammers it home. Hopefully he’ll be completely over it and ready to go next season.

    • Flavor said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:11 pm

      even tho she sounds pretty ditzy, I agree with you, very revealing. It must really fuck with you to have your brain betray you like that.

    • xoot said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:48 pm

      she’s fine. she did a good job describing the trauma. what a fucking ordeal.

      • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:23 pm

        Anyone see a lawsuit down the road?

  21. Flavor said, on August 27, 2018 at 6:51 pm

    headed to Kentucky Downs next weekend to cross an item off my bucket list. I’m assuming we’ve got no Flappers in Tenn or Kentucky, eh? I can’t wait…..

  22. Macdog said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:54 pm

    Hot diggity Duggar!

  23. Bozo said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:55 pm

    OH YEAH!

  24. Flavor said, on August 27, 2018 at 7:56 pm

    Duggar development would really go a long way to San Dawg’s “Competing in 2019 plan” or whatever he titled it

    • zumiee said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:03 pm

      I think he was talking about 2021 or something.

      • sandog said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:42 pm

        2022. The battleship completes its turn in 2022.

      • sandog said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:43 pm

        …..while remaining marginally competitive until then. Yes, Duggar may have a role in all that.

  25. Flavor said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    Dirt going back 2 back at POTD—that’s rarified Loo air.

  26. willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    Hundley went 0-13 on road trip, and he’s 1-6 since. Hey he turns 35 early next month; he’s had a nice season I just don’t think it ends well and his O numbers are going to go downhill playing 5+ days a week.

  27. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    Ole!!!

    Fuck off Krukow. Cutch misplyed that horribly. He took the wrong route and whiffed on the recovery.

  28. willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    critical inning for Strat. This is where he usually implodes. 2 groundballs to SS, great sign.

    • willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:49 pm

      and a K. wow 6 shutout innings. AZ is in first place and he’s kept them off scoreboard so far.

  29. alleykat69 said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought you had to leave one foot in the box on a called strike?
    I just watched Stratton completely leave the box on one.Baseball rules committee are letting these rules slide again..

    • unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:55 pm

      What’s the alternative? Stratton gets a ball for leaving the box during a pitch?

  30. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Oh boy. If he breaks and stops, then all are safe. They don’t turn 2 either way. Kruk is full of shit.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:59 pm

      Kruk is always full of shit💩nothing new there..

  31. willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    Loo’s right. It would be easier for Pence to hit that pitch from the other batters box.

  32. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    Jesus. This team can’t get out of its own way. It you don’t send the runner on a grounder to the OF, then why put on the contact play when the IF is playing in?

  33. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    If things pay out the way they usually do, AZ scores because we just puked on our shoes. And Strat usually goes wonky after 5 or 6.

    I hope I’m wrong . . .

  34. alleykat69 said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    Do the Giants still have to play the Pence farewell tour all the way thru Sept as well??

    • zumiee said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:09 pm

      Oh yes, it’s happening.

  35. James said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    If Duggar or Slater finish next year within 50 points below Cutch’s season OPS this year . . . it ain’t gonna happen. These guys are 24 and 25 already, not 21. I like that Slater knows how to draw a walk.

    • Flavor said, on August 28, 2018 at 5:13 am

      He’s a good Stanford man. He can do anything….

  36. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    That doesn’t make Cutch worth $18 mill, though.

    • James said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:19 pm

      Nope, but he’s not played nearly as terribly as the commentary suggests. He’s having a similar season to 2016. He was better in 2017. He’s shown enough this year that a 2019 like 2017 is not out of the question.

      • unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:34 pm

        Define ‘not nearly as terrible’. 98th in slugging percentage? Poor defense?

      • willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:52 pm

        Yes exactly James. Last thing I want to see Giants do is play some dumpster dive replacement level guy on the cheap like Gorks in his stead.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:22 pm

      He’s playing like someone who doesn’t give a shit. His defense is lousy. Pittsburgh didn’t want him in CF. He doesn’t want to be here. I know we don’t have much, but I’d rather see Slater and Duggar out there than another year of Cutch.

      • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:29 pm

        Your final sentence is a nice little poem, Chuck…

      • unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:37 pm

        lqtm

  37. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    Impressive outing by Strat. He just might win 10 games.

  38. alleykat69 said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    3 team trifecta that will still want Cutch, will be Yanks, Philadelphia, and Astros, with Houston going down the stretch for the win..
    He would probably do ok in LF at Minute Maid due to the short porch their and not needing as strong an arm in Left over Right..

  39. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Fuck, Watson. Get it over.

  40. zumiee said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    For what it’s worth, Cutch’s WAR is at 1.6 so far. Pretty meh. His defense hurts his WAR.

  41. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    Oh fuck me. Let the guy pitch.

  42. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    Suck my bowls, Jack.

  43. zumiee said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    Looks like the Jack in the Box Crave Van is gone. Those were entertaining commercials.

  44. djloo27 said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    I firmly believe Bochy won’t be back next season.
    They’ll figure out a way to make it look good…

    • alleykat69 said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:47 pm

      How about a horses head in his bed like in “The Godfather”? That’s a good going away gift right?

  45. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    There was no reason to take Watson out,. It better not bite him in the ass.

  46. Lurker John said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    Wow, Stratton back to his pre-baby form.

  47. djloo27 said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:49 pm

  48. unca_chuck said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    Stix nods his approval

  49. willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    That’s not the texas chump rangers out there. giants 10-7 vs. AZ on the year. Don’t tell me the Giants are uninspired don’t care and the mgr is mailing it in.

    • willedav said, on August 27, 2018 at 9:56 pm

      AZ guys tweeting that’s first bomb Corbin has given up in months. Duggar with gwrbi second day in a row, XBH no less. That’s now 3 bombs total for him and Slater combined and he has retaken lead 2-1.

      • zumiee said, on August 27, 2018 at 10:03 pm

  50. snarkk said, on August 27, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    Chuck the Cutch, please…

  51. snarkk said, on August 27, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    Did I hear this right?
    Longo has something like a .289 OBP? WTF?…


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