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McCutchen to Yanks

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 31, 2018

Thank God the Giants front office hasn’t gone completely off the rails. They traded McCutchen for what will basically amount to the second coming of Agent 000. And that’s fine. They were so up against the lux tax line they were going to have problems bringing up rookies for Sept call ups. Think about how lame that is for a second…..

And now they have the freedom to do so.

Later days, ‘Cutch. You led the team in pretty much every offensive category but I honestly can only remember a handful of your at bats. I’ll look back on your time in SF the way I look back on Steve Carlton’s time in SF.

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  1. blade3colorado said, on August 31, 2018 at 6:12 am

    Great obituary . . . Umm, I meant post. 🙂

  2. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:01 am

    He had that walk-off HR vs. the Dodgers early in the season that was memorable, but nothing much else stands out to me.

    • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:05 am

      He had a 1.7 WAR and a .772 OPS for the Giants. Obviously not the impact player we were hoping for.

    • xoot said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:39 am

      My son and I attended that walkoff game–extra innings, Gearrin screw up, on-deck Posey celebrating like mad when Cutch hit his bomb. My view of McCutchen was messed up all season just because of that early triumph. I strained to find things to enjoy, to admire in his play. Really strained, sometimes. A burden has lifted: I’m glad he’s moved on. If he has heroic moments for the yanks, I’ll be glad for that too. Adios, hombre.

  3. Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:06 am

    Entered my local market this morning (Piazza’s), first one in as usual. Babe by Stix was playing softly on the speakers. All of a sudden the sound bumped up for some reason and as I was walking the aisles alone I thought “this is the best this song has ever been.”

    • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:39 am

      It’s a great pop song from Dennis DeYoung that most of the band hated.
      DeYoung is no longer in the band. They tour with a soundalike guy replacing him.

      • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:28 pm

        They hated it because it sucked.

    • gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:51 am

      Did you get your lighter going???

      • Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 2:18 pm

        it would have been inappropriate if I’d broken out the lighter in Aisle 5 at 7am….

  4. willedav said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:32 am

    Interesting numbers from blade end of last thread re: Giants O not much improved from last year. At least pitching is better, lowering ERA from4.50 to 3.80 range and allowing 100 fewer runs. Ways to go tho for pitching numbers to get closer to elite teams in the league and yes the park does help them in that regard.

    Kuip mentioned Belt the other night and he’s been awful since he returned. August he’s 8 for 50 0 bombs 1 double his only XBH. His numbers eerily similar to Cutch—expected more out of both, myself. Belt to Yanks offseason makes a lot of sense for both teams.

    Trading away Cutch doesn’t hide elephant in the room–still need to find more O and power. The FA market for OFs mostly sucks and most players are 30+. Marwin Gonzalez and DJ Le Mahieu look like best hitters available overall.

    • gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:53 am

      I put that Belt to yanks idea on the table this last off-season but dont see the Yanks biting…

  5. wilcojoe said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:51 am

    The Giants got two of the Yankees prospects ranked 20-25 in their system. I think I predicted they would get a couple prospects ranked 10-25 in the Houston system should they have made a trade with them. Nothing wrong with what they ended up getting from the Yankees. In fact this young pitcher has put up pretty good numbers YTD. Couple that with the salary releif and these are exactly the kind of moves the Giants should me making.

  6. snarkk said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:52 am

    McCutchen will be a trivia question in 5 years, not 10.
    I think the guy didn’t want to be here. Not sure I blame him…

  7. wilcojoe said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:57 am

    Like others have said there is no way Bum would clear waivers with his favorable salary. Best case scenario is a team like the Yankees falls short of the World Series (hopefully to the ‘Stros) due in large part to their lack of a front line stud starter and the Yankees overpay in the offseason for Bumgarner out of desperation.

  8. wilcojoe said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:01 am

    It’s a shame the Giants ownership felt they still had a chance prior to the non waiver deadline. Guys like Smith and Watson could have brought back similar if not better talent than what they just got. The trade market for middle relief in the offseason is usually nil.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:04 am

      Exactly. Good comment.

  9. chipower9 said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:12 am

    Great thread Flav. You nailed it in regards to how I will (barely) remember McCutcheon.

    I have been out of the loop. Busy as hell with my daughter’s wedding tomorrow, rehearsal and rehearsal dinner tonight, planning a weeklong trip to the North Coast (taking the trailer up to a Fort Bragg Monday morn), and a dear friend who has been terminal (liver and other issues related to alcoholism) finally succumbed yesterday morning. So my shit has been all over the place, and not here at Flap Universe.

    Was happy to hear that the Giants FINALLY traded Cutch. Maybe this middle IFer will turn into a serviceable player. Most important to me, and Zumie alluded to this last night, is that they have stayed under the tax threshold, and now have the financial freedom to move some minor league pieces up and down for eval down the stretch.

    Busy day, heading over to my friend Don’s house (who just passed) to hang with his family and kids. We were neighbors for about 12 years while our kids grew up together. Don and I coached little league together. Lots of fond memories. Then right into the wedding stuff later today. Looking forward to the coast and relaxing.

    Make it an awesome weekend Flappers far and wide.

    • wilcojoe said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:16 am

      Congrats on your daughters wedding day!

      • chipower9 said, on August 31, 2018 at 11:17 am

        Thanks much, Wilco. Appreciate it.

    • xoot said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:46 am

      My best wishes to your daughter, Chuck. And take care of yourself, too. That’s a helluva a load. The north coast should be relaxing in early Sept.

      • chipower9 said, on August 31, 2018 at 11:17 am

        Thanks, Mike. I appreciate it brother.

  10. wilcojoe said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:15 am

    Let’s hope the Niners are playing well come Nov-Dec, so when Sabes sends Bum to the Yankees, the lunatic fringe will have a distraction.

    • snarkk said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:18 am

      Bum to the Yanks makes too much sense. So, it won’t happen…

    • xoot said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:49 am

      You know, I’m reading The Most Dangerous Book, a huge literary history of the novel Ulysses, and I came across a quotation from Teddy Roosevelt that included “lunatic fringe.” Who knew. (TMDB digs into the cultural and political bases for censorship of all sorts in the USA and Europe.)

  11. Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:29 am

    Chi–congrats on the wedding. Do you like the guy?

  12. gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:56 am

    Chi, you let your daughter marry before meeting me? Same road chuck went on!!!

  13. gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:58 am

    Bum will be a Giant for life and hopefully donning a Giant hat as he heads to Cooperstown…

  14. alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2018 at 10:20 am

    Congrats on your daughters wedding 👰 Chuck! Hope the guy is cool 😎 and not a honky hologram..

  15. alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2018 at 10:50 am

    Just curious but does Sabean only make deals with 2 GM’s YanksPitt??

    • wilcojoe said, on August 31, 2018 at 11:01 am

      Pretty much. He comes across as being very aloof and probably not well liked. We constantly hear how the Giants are always “asking too much” for their players and he overvalues them to the point that trades rarely take place and when they do they tend to be with the same organizations. Humility is not his strong point.

  16. chipower9 said, on August 31, 2018 at 11:14 am

    Thanks for all the congratulations and well wishes guys. It truly men’s a lot coming from a bunch of knuckleheads like all ya’all. Seriously, this blog is family, so thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    Flav – yes. Love the young man my daughter is marrying. While they are opposites in many ways (there’s that “opposites attract” thing, again), they truly are a great match for one another. I welcome him into my family with open arms.

    And Flav, with all the shit recently going on (both positive and surreal) in my life, it has given me reason to pause and reflect on the many things for which I am grateful . One of those things on which I reflected the other day was this blog. I will never be able to thank you enough for keeping this community alive and thriving. This collection of misfits (and yes, I am right there with you all!) truly means a lot to me. I have made some great lifelong friendships here, and that says something.

    Out to mow the lawn before the day ramps into rehearsal/rehearsal dinner mode. It should be a wild, and very fun ride.

    Make it an awesome weekend, girls.

    GO GIANTS!

    • blade3colorado said, on August 31, 2018 at 1:23 pm

      Congratulations Chi to you and your daughter! Long ass day/night for me too. Heading back to the world. Three flights and 23 hours in the air and airports . . . 3:22am and have been up since 1:40am. Ugh!

      • chipower9 said, on August 31, 2018 at 11:38 pm

        Safe travels my friend. Giants schedule is out for next year. Wrigley.

  17. gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 11:28 am

    Nice CBS sports headline:
    Giants’ Juan De Paula: Traded to Giants….huh???

  18. alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2018 at 11:58 am

    DePaula&Avelino sounds like a Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 law firm..

  19. alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2018 at 1:26 pm

    Unbelievable but true,The A’s just picked up “The “Human Rain Delay” Correy Gearrin!!
    How many freakin relievers do they really need??

  20. snarkk said, on August 31, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    I was just talking to a guy this am about McCutchen and how it seems Sabean only deals with 3 or 4 teams. Bucs, Yanks, Rangers, Rays. No idea how many he talks to, but sure seems he pulls trigger with some usual suspects for some reason. The local scribes should dig and do a refresh story on that, but I won’t hold my breath…

    • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 2:59 pm

      You lost the local scribes at “should dig.”

  21. Macdog said, on August 31, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    As opposed to whatever the fuck he was doing while playing for the Giants.

    • wilcojoe said, on August 31, 2018 at 2:34 pm

      Ha, no shit!

    • djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 4:02 pm

      Apparently not. He ain’t here yet…

  22. pawliekokonuts said, on August 31, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    That walkoff homer in “extra time” against the Dodgers…

  23. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    Congrats on the wedding, Chi! Very cool!

  24. pawliekokonuts said, on August 31, 2018 at 3:08 pm

    Steve Carlton. Perhaps my favorite pitcher of that era. Saw him beat SF, 2-0 at the Vet. Saw him outduel Seaver in Cincy. A lasting, somewhat pathetic memory: The Giants had just gotten him. He was in the dugout. A Saturday game, probably NBC Game of the Week. They showed him playing around with a baseball in his hand. He was trying to learn, or practice, the grip for the split-fingered fastball, to salvage his career. Didn’t work. He was either giving up a homer or a strikeout, which coincidentally is baseball today! (Mark McGwire, too, in his last days: homer or strikeout.) A final irony for Lefty was this: he was famously mum, stoic, silent, toward reporters, for years. Then, when he was on the skids, you couldn’t shut him up. He was some kind of weird survivalist, had a getaway home in Montana or some shit.

  25. djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 3:12 pm

    Chi will be a cool father in law to have…

    • chipower9 said, on August 31, 2018 at 11:39 pm

      Thanks, Loo. Any praise coming from you is high praise.

  26. djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 3:17 pm

    I seem to remember a lot of pre-season BS from McCutchen about how much he wanted to wear a Giant uniform…

  27. Macdog said, on August 31, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    Chi, congrats on your daughter’s wedding!

    • chipower9 said, on August 31, 2018 at 11:39 pm

      Thanks, Mac. Gonna be a magic day, tomorrow.

  28. alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2018 at 3:27 pm

    Ill give Cutch some credit, he didn’t disgrace the uniform compared to several other worthless trades,David Green,Manny Trillo,Ken (automatic DP)Reitz,Penis Cabell,AJ Jackoff, the list goes on and on…

    • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:39 pm

      “Penis Cabell.” LOL

  29. djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    Some new blood…

    1. Joe Panik (L) 2B
    2. Alen Hanson (S) SS
    3. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
    4. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    5. Austin Slater (R) RF
    6. Chris Shaw (L) LF
    7. Gorkys Hernandez (R) CF
    8. Aramis Garcia (R) C
    9. Andrew Suarez (L) P

    • Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 4:31 pm

      so many of those guys could/should be in the minors…..Looking forward to seeing Shaw’s swing…..

  30. Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 4:30 pm

    Something I’ve always wondered: How do the Yankees get away with telling their players they can’t have facial hair? Seriously, what if one of the players just said “Go fuck yourself, I’m growing a beard…”

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:17 pm

      I agree. What’s the MLBPA say? It’s a stooopid relic from the Steinbrenner Seventies.

  31. Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    guessing Diggity was at this….

  32. djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    He did…

    • Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 4:51 pm

      exactly! great pull. So why the fuck could this dude do it but everyone after this is shaving like some braindead lemming?

  33. Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 4:56 pm

    • blade3colorado said, on August 31, 2018 at 6:50 pm

      Didn’t he suck on a Lolly pop? I never watched the show, but I seem to recall reading about his character doing that (to quit smoking?).

      • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:43 pm

        Yeah, he always had a lollipop. Great ’70’s cop drama, if you liked that sort of thing. I did.

      • djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:51 pm

        He owned a top notch horse that he named Telly’s Pop…

  34. Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 5:03 pm

    same reason we had to ditch Cutch

  35. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    Sabean was on KNBR this afternoon sounding tired and demoralized. He knows fixing this team is a monumental task. I don’t see why he wants to stick with it. Someone new could maybe bring some new energy to things.
    Sabean can ride off into the sunset as a very successful GM, overall.

    • snarkk said, on August 31, 2018 at 6:53 pm

      Agreed. I would jettison the entire FO except David Bell. All of them. Tired, listless, and out of ideas. I’m tired of hearing Sabean complain about player performance, without acknowledging he’s the dude that put them all together. Let Bell decide what scouts and minor league people he wants to keep. Bochy and all the coaches, gone. Start fresh virtually from soup to nuts. The Cards fired their manager in mid season, and they’re in the hunt. And, they’re not exactly a crazy ass organization. Get rid of this ossified management — they got 3 in 5, they’re good to go the rest of their lives. Move over, and let somebody else fix this mess…

      • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 6:58 pm

        Well said.

      • Flavor said, on August 31, 2018 at 6:58 pm

        POTD

      • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:03 pm

        Maybe Baer can look up long enough from the real estate development project to care about the team.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:20 pm

        not sure I agree; maybe I do. But you got me thinking about it, that’s for sure.

      • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:45 pm

        Good call Snarkk. I’ve been advocating this for weeks now.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:26 pm

        In junior high, before they were called middle schools, we had to read a short story called Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia.

  36. djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    Panik played that ball like he has scoliosis…

  37. djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:42 pm

    Shaw doesn’t look like the answer…

    • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:49 pm

      Not since about Matt Williams has there been a Giants rook who’s been the answer.

      • djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:52 pm

        Buster?

      • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:03 pm

        Yeah, I thought of him, but Matty was at a different level as a hitter, at least imo. Huge power and RBI’s.

  38. Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:42 pm

    Inauspicious debut for Shaw. He might want to try taking a pitch.

  39. Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    It seems like Reyes has been around since the ice age.

  40. djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    Hanson might be better off in the 49er secondary…

  41. Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    That kid the Giants got for Cutch, Abiatal Avelino, has 15 HR’s and 65 RBI between AA & AAA this year. Agent 000 has 15 for his entire professional career. So not a fair comparison, imo. Maybe he turns out to be a serviceable player at some point, which is more than anyone could ever day about Burriss.

  42. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    The not-so-brilliant fan trying to interfere with Slater’s double. The usher should warn him.

  43. Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    Suarez seems to have found his second wind the past couple of starts.

    • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:36 pm

      Bum, D-Rod, and Suarez look to be the core of the starting rotation next season, and that’s pretty solid. Holland possibly, too. And Jeff Contract will get a spot until he gets injured. Then Stratton will get that spot.
      A decent rotation, with some youth in it.

      • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:37 pm

        .500 or bust!

      • djloo27 said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:40 pm

        And Blach if needed.
        I don’t ever want to see Smardja again…

      • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:44 pm

        I’m done with him, too; but the contract will guarantee his spot.

      • gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:48 pm

        Cant see Holland being signed…someone like the As or another AL team will give him a 2 year deal. Not worth it for the Giants…

  44. gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    Flav, I was at that Day on the Green!!!
    Passed out by 2nd base during Metallica….

    • gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:04 pm

      I was a huge Scorpions fan…their late 70s early 80s material is still solid. Saw them first in ’84 I believe and caught a drumstick at the end of the show (think I have told that tale befor) but by summer of ’85 Scorpions seemed ancient…RATT was awful…

      • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:08 pm

        Hell yeah it’s still solid. I rock those tunes all the time. UFO today.

  45. Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    Nice DP!

  46. Macdog said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    Yeah Shaw!

  47. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    Nice moment for Shaw.

  48. Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    Atta kid Shaw.

  49. willedav said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Chi sorry for your loss. Hope everything else wedding and vacation go smooth.
    .500 team, nothing wrong with that. Cards spent the first 4 months of the season playing .500 ball before they took off behind Carpenter and new mgr.

    College football up and running, i’m out.

  50. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 8:57 pm

    Slater looks so stiff and mechanical playing the outfield lately. I don’t remember him looking that way earlier in the season. Maybe he was and I didn’t notice.

  51. Macdog said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    Yeah Garcia!

  52. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    Awesome for Garcia!
    His mom in tears. Great moment.

    • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:10 pm

      The two rooks a big factor tonight.

  53. Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    No cheapie for the kid, that was a bomb!

    • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:12 pm

      Great swing, too. He shortened his arms on the inside pitch, and still powered it out.
      I referenced Turner the other night doing that and hitting one out.

  54. Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:11 pm

    His old man was hilarious! Good for the kid.

  55. gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    Mlb channel just showed the Garcia home run and his family’s reaction….awesome! Where is he from??

    • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:13 pm

      Florida.

      • gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:16 pm

        Cool. Glad his family made it for this moment…first start right?

      • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:20 pm

        Yeah, first start.

    • gianthead said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:15 pm

      He could be a decent backup…and Posey should be moved primarily to first…

  56. Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    Ramirez has shown pop in the minors, as many has 17 homer in a season. Not much batting average, but he’s strong. On the homer starved Giants, any ball that lands in the seats is good.

    • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:15 pm

      Jesus, Garcia. My name memory has sucked lately.

  57. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    Belt breaks it open.

  58. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    Some info on Garcia from Wikipedia:

    “Garcia attended Pembroke Pines Charter High School in Pembroke Pines, Florida. The St. Louis Cardinals selected him in the 20th round of the 2011 Major League Baseball draft, but he did not sign a contract with them.He enrolled at Florida International University (FIU) to play college baseball for the FIU Panthers. In 2014, Garcia was named the Conference USA Baseball Player of the Year and a semifinalist for the Johnny Bench Award.

    The San Francisco Giants selected Garcia in the second round, with the 52nd overall selection, of the 2014 Major League Baseball draft. The Giants signed Garcia to a contract with a $1.1 million signing bonus.”

  59. snarkk said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    McCutchen who?…

    • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:31 pm

      I know. I was just thinking it feels like that trade happened three weeks ago.

  60. pawliekokonuts said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    In junior high, before they were called middle schools, we read a short story titled ‘Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia.”

  61. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    Garcia again for the RBI. Have a night, dude!

  62. zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    The guy with Krukow’s daughter has arms like artillery cannons.

    • Lurker John said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:44 pm

      That was Krukow’s daughter? Wow.

      • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:57 pm

        Krukow mentioned his wife and daughter, but not the guy. I wonder if there’s a back-story to that omission.
        At one point he leaned over and kissed her on the forehead.

  63. Macdog said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Now that was a fun inning.

    • zumiee said, on August 31, 2018 at 9:43 pm

  64. mrsprtdude said, on September 1, 2018 at 12:43 am

    Yay!!! Good to see Clint!


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