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At Base Camp Without Oxygen

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 3, 2018

….and now we head to Colorado. Lulz, this should go smoothly. The Giants called up all the shitty arms they have left in Sacto this morning so at least we can run a bunch of dudes up and down the hill.

Whatever, it’s Labor Day and what a great day for baseball it is!

Side Bet: Get your picks in for how many games the Giants win in September. I am coming in at a solid SIX. 24 games remain….

Winner gets a coveted 2018 Flappy award for best prognosticator.

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  1. djloo27 said, on September 3, 2018 at 9:05 am

    I’ll go with 8. One per series.
    The Cardinal series in a few weeks is almost exactly 50 years after the Perry-Washburn back to back no hitters.
    I recall that as a moment when it was really starting to sink in how much agony being a Giant fan was – even for a kid…

  2. Pasalon said, on September 3, 2018 at 9:09 am

    2018 Flappy award is payable in Flappycoin, aye?

  3. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 9:25 am

    I’ll be crazy and pick 10 wins.

  4. Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 9:54 am

    the obvious number is 12 since they’ve been at .500 all year. I just can’t see this putrid collection of AAA hitters do anything consistently against some very good teams who are still playing for something.

  5. xoot said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:02 am

    Long ago, end of March or early April, I projected 80-82. 12 more wins is all they need. Of course they’ll do that, exactly that, although the team in Sept. doesn’t much resemble the team that came out of ST.

    • Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:05 am

      that’s the prob with March predictions. The team isn’t ever the same. But we have a good idea of who is going to be out here this month. And it’s not good.

    • xoot said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:07 am

      Pence is still starting in LF, though. I’d laugh if I could.

  6. Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:04 am

    what happens first today? A longo-dongo or a slater-tater? I’m calling lead off Slater-Tater and then nothing for several innings…..

  7. Macdog said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:23 am

    I’ll go 10. Much could depend on that final series vs. the Bums, depending on whether they will have clinched the division by then or still need to still one or two that weekend.

    • Macdog said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:24 am

      *win one or two*

  8. Lurker John said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:25 am

    When Pete LaCock takes you deep:

  9. snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:29 am

    Pence starting must be Bochy’s way to avoid seeing another Shaw strikeout, so he can see a familiar Pence swinging K on a slider 18″ down and outside in the dirt. Pence should be relegated to making and serving coffee in the pre-game caffeination room…

  10. snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:30 am

    I’ll go with 7 wins…

  11. djloo27 said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:54 am

    Lost in the boredom was the insane day Hanson had at SS yesterday.
    Where did that come from?

    • snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:03 am

      I called it out in my 3:35 yesterday.
      To me, it showed he has the potential D to make Panik expendable.
      They should trade Panik next Spring, after schooling Hanson hard on D in the off season — take 20K grounders and a ton of DP turns and pop ups at second. He should play winter ball; work on his RH hitting, or decide to abandon it if warranted. The guy is one of the few difference makers on the Giants…

      • Lurker John said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:13 am

        How is he a difference maker? He has a .283 OBP and a .261 BA. He’s had some nice plays this year and driven in a few runs and he’s fast, but I don’t see him making that much of a difference. He’s struck out 7 times more than he’s walked this season.

        And regardless of how hard he works on his D in the off season, right now he’s too often a stone-handed fielder. I’m not against dumping Panik at all, I just don’t think Hanson is worthy of such status.

      • snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:34 am

        He’s the only dude other than Duggar that has any speed. He can play infield or outfield. He does have pop left handed. We know what Panik can do, he’s not going to get better. Hanson is an open book…

  12. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:07 am

    Pence starting today makes me laugh, but with a ‘Tom Hanks in “Money Pit”‘ laugh.

  13. Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:29 am

    Krueg’s on fire…..

  14. Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:32 am

    Hanson is good to keep around because he plays with energy and fuels the team a little AND he’s nearly free. We need cheapo guys sprinkled in here if we’re gonna fix this. And I’m Hanson > Panik all day long. Panik is worthless at this point

    • Lurker John said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:39 pm

      Now that I’m inclined to agree with.

  15. snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:33 am

    Why is Hundley starting 3 straight?
    Garcia only caught a shutout and hit a dinger in his first MLB game.
    He should start at least every other game the rest of the season.
    WTF is management thinking — Hundley will make the difference to win meaningless games?…

    • Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:45 am

      it’s possible they’re tossing him a bone because he really wants to play against his former team. If that’s the case, hey, Hundley has earned it, he’s been a rockstar this year for us

    • Macdog said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:49 am

      Especially since Hundley hasn’t a HR since late July.

  16. Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:35 am

    Krueg is livid these days…

    • snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:43 am

      Like I constantly say, this is what you get with ossified management, and a big season tix base.
      Season tix holders should stop re-upping for more of this S.
      The entire org needs an Augean stable clean the day after the season is over…

  17. unca_chuck said, on September 3, 2018 at 11:38 am

    9

  18. djloo27 said, on September 3, 2018 at 12:26 pm

    Before the season is over, I’m hoping to hear that Bochy is moving upstairs after the season.
    He did a good job with what he was given this year.
    It’s just time to move on – for his sake, too…

  19. blade3colorado said, on September 3, 2018 at 12:26 pm

    I will stick to my preseason prediction, meaning 7 more wins for this season.

    • snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:00 pm

      I’ve forgotten what I predicted. I think at first I said 83, maybe 82. When Bum got hurt at end of ST, I think I changed it to 75. Looks like it’ll end up around the latter…

  20. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    Well, that didn’t take long.

  21. Macdog said, on September 3, 2018 at 12:31 pm

    Rox get their favorite Coors punching bag to at least keep them on pace with L.A. this week.

  22. djloo27 said, on September 3, 2018 at 12:32 pm

    Panik’s trade value has been lowered a lot and that McNeil guy has compromised my deal with the Mets.
    Hanson’s a breath of fresh air, but I still have doubts about him as an every day player.
    Except for the obvious Pence, the whole gang could be back…

  23. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    Affeldt is in no condition to broadcast this game. He’s croaking like a frog.

    • xoot said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:02 pm

      but he’s talking a lot less than usual . . . . thumbs up

      • zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:06 pm

        Good point.

  24. sandog said, on September 3, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    Sounds like the game is not going well. I went to Xoot’s burger spot in North Beach yesterday. Let me know if we get to a point where my review would be a nice distraction.
    At SFO waiting to board back down to SanDog now.

    • zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:08 pm

      Bring on the review!

  25. xoot said, on September 3, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    • Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:52 pm

      i never understood how The Joker rigged all his shit up. How did he do all that?

  26. snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 12:57 pm

    Craw hitting .177 since July 1.
    3rd worst BA in that period in the entire MLB.
    2 HRs over the last 50 games.
    Yet, Craw gets nowhere near Belt’s share of crap…

    • zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:06 pm

      Craw had that month and a half where he was on fire. He made the All Star game. Plus, shortstop offensive production expectation is not as much as firstbase.

      • snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:11 pm

        Not sure I would call .177 over 2+ months at $15 million/year any kind of “production”…

      • zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:20 pm

        Defense is a big factor at shortstop. He’s still a top rate defender.
        But, yeah, other than that month and a half, he’s been terrible on offense this season.

  27. Macdog said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    Bring on the burger review.

  28. Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:53 pm

    Diggity how was that burger joint?

  29. snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    Looks like the usual stink on ice for the giants in Denver…

  30. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    Garcia had a hit to keep the rally going. Play the rook!

  31. xoot said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:01 pm

    Wild Man Hanson keeps the Giants alive!

  32. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    Hanny!!!!

  33. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    New guy!!!!

  34. xoot said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    and it turns out Shaw can hit? nice

  35. snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:08 pm

    As I said, Hanson = difference maker…

  36. snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    Hanson, big clutch singer.
    Shaw, mammoth dinger for first MLB hit. Garcia, another hard shot single for 3rd straight hit since last game.
    Giants have to play these guys every game. To do otherwise is nonsense…

    • snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:15 pm

      Clutch dinger, too…

  37. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:17 pm

    The Giants are hopeless in this ballpark.

  38. snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:20 pm

    Bochy overused Watson the first half, he was nails then. He’s gassed now…

  39. Lurker John said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    Wow, Shaw with some big time pop. 468 feet. Let’s hope he can do that consistently in the bigs. And his gf is a bombshell. Massive home run.

    • djloo27 said, on September 3, 2018 at 6:53 pm

      Keeping in mind that the ball travels further (farther?) at Coors, is it possible Shaw’s bomb is a 420′ out in triples alley?

  40. Lurker John said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:43 pm

    I can’t imagine too many balls have been hit there at Coors. That was 5 rows back of that first deck behind the bullpen. Just a bomb. And Hanson too. I hope he can figure out how to get on base more, because with his speed he is a weapon, but the .283 OBP isn’t going to cut it. Fingers crossed that Shaw turns out to be the real deal because this team is desperate for power.

    At the end of the day, another sucky loss at Coors fucking Field.

  41. blade3colorado said, on September 3, 2018 at 3:53 pm

    This dude Krueger is unequivocally correct when he says that it’s mind boggling to see this is the piece of shit team that our “ossified” (thank you Snarkk) brain dead front office put together this season at . . . cha ching . . . $206 million dollars.

    Fucking absurd.

    • Lurker John said, on September 3, 2018 at 4:23 pm

      Heads need to roll, starting with Booby’s.

      • blade3colorado said, on September 3, 2018 at 4:41 pm

        Eddie D. and the late Bill Walsh would clean house, starting at the top (bye bye Booby).

        None of this frickin’ shit would stand. In fact, last season, they would have canned the entire front office and half the roster.

    • blade3colorado said, on September 3, 2018 at 4:24 pm

      For comparison, essentially the same record can be bought for $90 million dollars in Pittsburgh.

  42. blade3colorado said, on September 3, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    I’m happy that Nike and many fans are still backing Kaepernick.

    http://larrybrownsports.com/football/colin-kaepernick-face-of-nike-new-just-do-it-campaign/462550

    • djloo27 said, on September 3, 2018 at 6:56 pm

      Backlash to follow.
      So tired of this whole thing…

    • xoot said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:01 pm

      Kaepernick sure surprised me. He used his stage, such as it was — a near washout backup QB on the sideline — to say something really important, and when pressed to explain he did, very well. It took off. To hell with the owners and Trump et al. If Kaep wins his collusion case, in that kangaroo court known as arbitration, that’ll just be a minor finishing touch. He’s already accomplished a lot.

      • blade3colorado said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:21 pm

        Excellent post Xoot. Agree completely.

  43. gianthead said, on September 3, 2018 at 6:48 pm

    Giants have to be 2 games over .500 to get Boch exactly .500. So three games under now with 23 to play. Giants would have to go 13-10. So I will pray for 13-10 and get Boch to .500 and hope he goes quietly into the sunset…

    • Flavor said, on September 3, 2018 at 6:53 pm

      man, you have spent a LOT of time worrying about Bochy’s career record, lulz. .500, .600, .400 does it really matter? It’s just a number. Those 3 beauties matter the most to him.

      • gianthead said, on September 3, 2018 at 6:56 pm

        Because I think that milestone ends his reign…and my math sucks. They have to be two over .500, which means going 14-9…no way in hell they won 14…but there is my hopeful prediction…

      • gianthead said, on September 3, 2018 at 6:57 pm

        If his career record is below .500, I guarantee he is back next year…also chasing 2000 wins..

    • gianthead said, on September 3, 2018 at 6:53 pm

      Of course I consider this a good worthwhile loss…more a Colorado and Arizona win, better chance Flodgers not making the playoffs…

  44. willedav said, on September 3, 2018 at 7:45 pm

    wow if we’re quoting Krueger for advice it’s a new low. He’s not on fire, he’s FOS.
    Fire Sabean Now was handle of a guy Twin used to light up. got a feeling he’d feel same way now.

    way I look at it, .500 ball was played for 4 months and I have zero problem with it…same as the Cardinals. New mgr didn’t get off to good start but his hitters came around. Most notably M Carpenter, proving the lie in all that anyone over 30 is done stuff.
    As opposed to Giants whose hitters all went south especially the holdover vets.
    so there’s the solution–fortify and develop pitching (Young seems great addition) and get couple more hitters.

    And imo vs. a year ago, the rebuild /reload from 64-98 has already started, because of Sabes. He added 3 primo bargains in Holland the ace, D Rod the true ace and Hanson most exciting currently healthy guy out there.
    And he’s the same guy who drafted not only Bart but Slater Moronta Duggar Shaw Strat and Suarez. That already represents over a third of roster, all in a positive direction.

    • zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:12 pm

      The danger is if the Giants just slosh around .500 for the next 4 or 5 years, just spinning their wheels, if more dramatic action isn’t taken.

    • blade3colorado said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:53 pm

      Shaw will NOT have a career in my opinion. One bomb at Coors doesn’t change my opinion one iota. The dude up until today, has yet to see more than three pitches in a plate appearance and he had never seen a Major League pitch called for a ball. Wow! In short, he is a human billboard for striking out.

      I was impressed with Hanson’s defense the other day, but can he do it consistently? I don’t know. Similarly, can he get on base consistently? To date, he’s been terrible. That being said, keep.putting him out there, as Panik has face planted and obviously isn’t the answer. Maybe Hanson elevates himself above utility player. Wait and see . . .

      Slater, Duggar, Suarez, and Stratton are just “guys.” They haven’t proven anything to date.

      Regarding Twin, I could give 2 shits about what he would say back than or now . . . Moreover, I disagree with you. I think he would be calling for people to be fired. Equally important, why even bring up what Twin would say? Is that supposed to buttress your argument? Make me quiver in my shoes? 😂

      We’ll just have to agree to disagree on the direction of this team and those in charge of running it. I think they’re doing a terrible job and the GM minimally, should.be fired.

  45. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Bochy’s career record could be a couple of games under .500 and still round off to a .500 winning percentage.
    I think the math supports me on that. 🙂

    • djloo27 said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:21 pm

      Very clever, Zum!

      • zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:32 pm

        Thanks! I’m kind of fascinated by Bochy’s career dance with .500 in his regular season career.

  46. djloo27 said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    Nimmo bombs Bums!

  47. Macdog said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    Whoa, Nimmo 3-run bomb in top 9th to give Mets 4-1 lead over Bums.

  48. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:20 pm

    Nimmo goes yard. Big HR off Maeda.

  49. mrsprtdude said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    Craig I weigh in at 10 wins the rest of the way. Play Pence in the last 1-2 home games. Tip the cap and get out. Playing now is lame!!!

  50. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    Mets will try to blow it of course.

  51. zumiee said, on September 3, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    Dodgers lost!

  52. xoot said, on September 3, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    I admire this scene for other reasons, but still, it sort of applies

  53. snarkk said, on September 3, 2018 at 10:54 pm

    I agree with Blade. Slater, Duggar, Hanson — they look like just some “guys” that on any good team would be bench jockeys. But, they are all the Giants have, so play ’em. Hanson has some spark, I see him as a possible spark player. Anyway, see if they discover some magic (Duggar next Spring after his surgery). Shaw could be just another guy, too , or maybe another Judge. He needs to play to figure that out. We don’t need Pence or Blanco to play, that just is nonsense the rest of the season regardless of who is oppo pitching…


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