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Dodgers Doing What They Do Best: Lose When It Counts

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 25, 2018

The expected beat down of this second rate franchise is unfolding predictably. The Red Sox aren’t the Brewers and LA is getting spanked. Again, this is what always happens to this team—a team that likes to celebrate early, usually looking like jackasses on the base paths, when they have won precisely nothing.

If you are want an early celebrator or an over-celebrator, LA is your team. If you want a team that actually wins a championship first and then celebrates, look elsewhere…

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  1. blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 6:23 am

    Spot on Craig . . .

  2. zumiee said, on October 25, 2018 at 6:54 am

    These fans show the result of the game last night.

  3. alleykat69 said, on October 25, 2018 at 7:02 am

    Roberts is such a tool, I don’t give a rats ass about Lefty/Righty matchups when you have your best player Bellinger sitting on the bench to start the 1st 2 games your a moron..

    • zumiee said, on October 25, 2018 at 7:14 am

      He’s getting roasted even more in the media after game 2, for the Dodgers’ over-reliance on analytics.
      Roberts is trying to out-nerd the Red Sox, and it isn’t working.

  4. Pasalon said, on October 25, 2018 at 7:22 am

    Oh snap! That was a first class burn, Flava Flav!

    • Flavor said, on October 25, 2018 at 7:37 am

      excellent. Now if I could get you to like more of my zingers on Dean Heller on twitter you would complete the exacta of being rad.

  5. willedav said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:12 am

    This from blogger Mr. Ziffel on yahoo sports:

    “I think the Dodgers need to pay a visit to the Wizard of Oz. Roberts needs a brain, Kershaw needs a heart, and the rest of the team needs a little courage. “

    • blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:27 am

      Good one Willie!

    • chipower9 said, on October 25, 2018 at 10:29 am

      That’s awesome. Thanks for the share, Willie.

  6. willedav said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:24 am

    Warriors game was tremendous. Wizards, who are fun to watch, had 71 at half themselves and late 3rd it was 95-87. But no one was stopping Curry or Durant.
    Next stop Big Apple, to play the Bricks and Brooklyn.

    Boston is just rolling over everyone as they did in reg season. Yanks and Stros each won over 100 games and couldn’t handle them, especially at home in their own yards. Aren’t they undefeated on road in playoffs?
    Still believe pitching is single most important factor, as in good pitching shutting down good hitting no matter how many bombs team might have hit.

  7. unca_chuck said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:24 am

    Curry was amazing last night. 23 points in the 1st quarter. 51 at the end of the 3rd, and he didn’t play again. Probably his best shooting night of his career.

    The best shot he made all night was one that didn’t even count. Should have been a continuation just for the awesomeness of it.

  8. unca_chuck said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:27 am

    Then there’s this. The Globetrotters got nothing on Steph.

  9. Lurker John said, on October 25, 2018 at 10:29 am

    It looks like better than 81% of the time a team has gone up 2-0 in a WS (this being the 43 time, I believe), they’ve gone on to win. Ain’t looking too good for the shitheads in blue. And still no sign of the Dudger trolls. Fucking cowards.

    https://sabr.org/research/world-series-game-situation-winning-probabilities-how-often-do-teams-come-back-behind

    • blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 10:56 am

      Great article LJ! This chart is worth posting from the link . . .

      By the by, I especially, iike the 3-0 scenario, i.e., NO ONE comes back from that.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 25, 2018 at 11:24 am

      Got that right, LJ.

  10. unca_chuck said, on October 25, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Boston did it in the ALCS vs the Yankees. Thanks to Dave Roberts.

    Small world . . .

    • willedav said, on October 25, 2018 at 11:39 am

      They still love him back there.
      Probably more than they love him in LA right now.

  11. blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 11:58 am

    Prediction – Roberts is finding another job if the Dodgers lose this World Series. He’s already made so many questionable calls that he’s lucky he didn’t get his pink slip on the plane back to LA.

  12. unca_chuck said, on October 25, 2018 at 12:13 pm

    Crazy thing is, Wood had given up 14 homers to RH hitters this year, and none to lefties. Roberts brings in Wood to face a RH-ed Nooner. Boom, see ya later.

    • blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 12:33 pm

      Actually, it’s worse than that Chuck. He initially brought in lefty Wood to face the left-handed hitting Devers.
      This despite the fact that Baez has been tougher on lefties (.164/.310/.299) than righties (.246/.291/.380) this season and after Wednesday has not allowed a hit against lefties in 32 consecutive at-bats. That would have been a terrible match up as well . . . As it was, Cora brought in Noonie and they probably got the same result. Also, didn’t fuck up Wood also blow it in game 1? I think he threw a wild pitch, which brought in a run from 3rd.

  13. chipower9 said, on October 25, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    Not a lot of banter on the Giants at this time of year, but this is recent. Thoughts?

    https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/giants-review-will-smith-dominates-return-will-he-be-2019-closer

    • Flavor said, on October 25, 2018 at 4:19 pm

      I’ll believe the Giants are going into a rebuild when I see it. Otherwise I expect them to keep all those guys. The article brought up a good point, why didn’t they trade them at the deadline last year? They don’t know what these guys are worth and if they did talk to other teams they probably asked for the moon.

  14. djloo27 said, on October 25, 2018 at 3:39 pm

    FWIW (nothing), the 1981 Dodgers came back from a 2-0 deficit to beat the Yanks.
    The 1986 Red Sox won the first two (on the road, no less) and still blew the series to the Mets…

  15. blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 4:14 pm

    Maybe I forgot or I never knew he was this good an outfielder, but Adam Duvall is a finalist for a Golden Glove. Shocked about Corey Dickerson, now of the Pirates, also being a finalist (at the same position – left field).

    The only other thing curious about the GG finalists is that Belt didn’t make the cut.

    • Flavor said, on October 25, 2018 at 4:17 pm

      he isn’t a good outfielder, that seems silly. How did he become a finalist?

      • blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 4:25 pm

        Dunno, but he is a finalist . . . Doing a bit of research online though and there are a couple of articles that tout his defense. Same deal with Dickerson, who I recall as being a disaster in his last season with the Rockies. He was pretty good prior to his last season, with them though. I guess getting DFAed by the Rays make you take stock of where you are as a player. lqtm.

      • Flavor said, on October 25, 2018 at 4:37 pm

        that’s crazy. I think defensive metrics are wildly overrated. All I care about is how much ground a guy covers and how strong his arm is. There is no way Duvall is out there covering a shitload of ground. Maybe he has a cannon arm, I dunno….

      • djloo27 said, on October 25, 2018 at 4:41 pm

        Duvall’s biggest fan here was “Bass Baldy”…

  16. Lurker John said, on October 25, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    Yeah, Blade, 3-0 is the death knell. ROFL!

  17. Lurker John said, on October 25, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    Steph is the epitome of pure joy on the basketball court. He’s 30 now and it doesn’t look to me like he’s lost and of his skills or that joy.

    • djloo27 said, on October 25, 2018 at 4:48 pm

      Mays was kind of like that till about age 35…

    • Flavor said, on October 25, 2018 at 5:04 pm

      it’s crazy to me how many non Warrior fans don’t like Steph. Let’s see, he’s got almost no tattoos, he signs autographs wherever he goes, he’s married with 2 great kids, zero drama in his life, team player…..oh, and he bombs away from 30 feet with ease.
      One of the nicest superstars in NBA history.
      And most people hate him
      I don’t get it.

      • djloo27 said, on October 25, 2018 at 5:19 pm

        I think it’s the mouthpiece…

      • Flavor said, on October 25, 2018 at 5:30 pm

        ok, that’s fair. I hate that fucking thing too, keep it in your mouth, ass

      • Lurker John said, on October 25, 2018 at 6:12 pm

        I didn’t know that. I thought he was one of the more popular players in the league. His jersey sales certainly hint at his popularity. He can get a little cocky at times, but what great player doesn’t? He’s kind of a big kid himself, so I’d think he appeals to the younger set in general. Now, Draymond, OTHOH…

  18. blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 5:02 pm

    I’m not even certain what the GG defensive criteria is? If anyone knows, educate me. Frankly, I think these dudes are elected by their peers (other players and managers). So, that tells me they’re basically going by an eyeball test and fielding percentage, errors, and other more advanced defensive metrics don’t come into the equation.

    Again, going back to Dickerson, here’s a guy who played a lot of DH while on the Rays. In fact, he was elected to his only All Star game as a DH. What the fuck? Fast forward today, he’s competing for a Gold Glove at age 29? That doesn’t make sense.

  19. Flavor said, on October 25, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    Watching LA get spanked by such an obviously superior team is making this season almost worthwhile. Sure the Giants are terrible and will be for years. But I will never get tired of watching the Dodgers fall apart in the post season. Never. It’s nearly as good as one of the 3 WS wins we had.

  20. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 6:12 pm

    Hey Flappers, I apologize for a lengthy post, but I have a non-baseball-related topic I just want to run by you. Have any of you started collecting Social Security yet? And/or starting to think about it in the near future? I’m a very smart guy about some things, but finances is not one of those things. I’m now 62 and eligible, but I’ve wanted to hold off on collecting SS as long as I’m working, to increase my monthly SS payment the longer I wait. However… I’m gettin’ tired. I’m thinking of ending my need for full-time work over here next summer (I’ll turn 63 at that time) and switch to part-time, which collecting the SS pay would enable me to do.

    I guess what I’m not sure about is this: if I start collecting next year, my monthly SS pay would be locked in at a lower level than if I waited, which would be fine as long as I’m still working part-time…. but at some point (5 years later?) I’ll probably stop working altogether, which would leave me reliant on only the SS pay. I’d love to wait until 66 to collect, which would increase the monthly pay by nearly $500 over what I’d collect if I start drawing SS next year, but at this point, the thought of working full-time for 4 more years is not pleasant.

    A friend of mine opined this: If I wait until age 66, I would be “passing up” up nearly $70,000 that I could start collecting next year. I hadn’t really thought of that, since I figured I’d be getting the money eventually anyway, but she said, yeah, but it would take another 10 years to “get back” that $70,000. Of course, who knows how long life will continue. So, I’m finding it difficult to figure out what’s best. Any thoughts would be most welcome, thanks, FlapU.

    • Flavor said, on October 25, 2018 at 6:28 pm

      interesting post. I know nothing about this so I can’t contribute but look forward to the responses.

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 7:50 pm

        Yeah, I’m hoping someone has some insight. This decision about when to start collecting seems like a roll of the dice. It would be so much easier knowing when exactly I was going to die… 🙂 I think I know what Loo would say: “Take the money NOW”….

    • Bozo said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:21 pm

      I retired early at 53 and started collecting SS last year at 63. Both scenarios that you mention are correct. If you wait until 66 you will have a higher percentage but you will have given up 3 years of pay. So the gamble is, if you wait for the higher percentage, how long will the higher percentage take to make up for not getting 3 years of pay. Also, an additional part of the equation to consider is how long do you expect to live. Because the majority of people do not know how long they will live, I don’t think there is a wrong answer.
      My tax guy told me to wait as long as I could because the percentage increase for SS was probably better than any investment I would make, but instead I took the advise from an economist I knew who basically said, get what you can when you can.
      I didn’t help at all, did I?

    • chipower9 said, on October 25, 2018 at 9:17 pm

      I think your lady friend nailed it. I am 61 and have kicked around when to start drawing SS. I did the math, and if I start drawing now, as opposed to 66.5, it would take me over 10 years to reach the break-even point.

      One last thing. I have a friend who I served with in the Air Force. He has worked for the SSA for many years now, and he said emphatically to collect as soon as possible.

      I would start drawing now, but want to pay my truck off first. That and I make a pretty decent salary, so want to take advantage of that, and push as much as possible into my 401k.. So, around 63 is when I’ll start drawing.

      Good luck, brother.

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 9:34 pm

        Thanks, Chuck, and to you as well. Yeah, really starting to sense taking the money now is the way to go. Haha, ask me about that when I’m 85 and flat broke. But that ain’t ever gonna happen….

  21. unca_chuck said, on October 25, 2018 at 7:53 pm

    Paul, I’m in the same boat as to deciding when to start the clock. My wife and I are the same age (5 days apart) and I never really thought about looking at the fact that when you start later you are missing out on money in hand. I[m thinking 62 as the middle ground between losing too much too early and waiting too long. 4.5 years. If I stay employed.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:06 pm

      Yeah, Charlie, it’s a bit complicated (to me, anyway). Really leaning toward starting to collect next year, earlier than I originally thought, but I’m just getting too tired to work full-time anymore. The roll of the dice is that collecting early (63) instead of at 66 means smaller monthly payments for the duration, and IF one happens to live a long long life… well, could run out of money. Personally, I’ll be surprised if I hit 75, so it might not be an issue…. 🙂

  22. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    Yes, Bozo, that’s helpful, thanks. And like I said, it feels like a roll of the dice, and in your case, it came down to trusting the tax man or an economist. I think I also would’ve trusted the economist….

  23. xoot said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    Paul, I think it has to be smart for you to start collecting SSA asap. Here in the USA it makes less sense to start early if you’re still working because of state and federal taxes and, once you hit 65, because of sliding-scale medicare B deductions from the SSA payments every month. It’s often smarter for people here to bide their time and let the monthly amount due rise before claiming it. But if you’re free of tax liability, and you won’t have to pay for medicare B, seems to me it makes sense to start cashing in as early as possible. I turned 67 just the other day so I’ve been looking into this stuff for a few years now.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:33 pm

      Interesting insight about tax liability (I pay no US taxes if I’m paid through a local situation here). Trouble is, one good part-time gig I can get is thru a US university, and I do have to pay US taxes on that except for the fact that I make under the annual minimum, so.. no US taxes. But I think it would reduce my SS pay if I make over something like 14k, which I would, but I think that would not be a huge reduction. And yeah, the Medicare part of it is something I’m only just now learning about….

  24. blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Paul, I retired at 50 and I don’t receive Social Security (I get a pension). For me, my decision to retire was less about the money and more about happiness. I kept on thinking that tomorrow isn’t promised, I also had other hobbies, such as traveling, scuba diving, etc., that I wanted to pursue more. Reading between the lines, I sense you are wanting to do something else with your life (what you said about being “tired”). Obviously, only you can make that decision and for you, it will be the right one because you know yourself and your situation.

    I can look back and say three things: 1. I loved working and my job; 2. Then I didn’t due to unforeseen circumstances, some of which I’ve talked about on the blog, e.g., being a whistle blower; and, 3. Retirement has been an adventure and a blast.

    Again, whatever you decide, I’m certain that it will work out for you.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 8:56 pm

      Thanks, Steve, you’re one of the more financially savvy people I know. That pension alone must’ve made it all worthwhile, huh. And yes, it’s more about quality of life now, although obviously the money is important. I don’t want my last handful of serviceable years to be spent slaving for other people. Part-time work in itself, supplemented by SS monies, would help significantly with quality of life, I think, hence, decision time, all of the sudden….

      • blade3colorado said, on October 25, 2018 at 9:01 pm

        Living in Vietnam also affords reduced expenditures for just about everything, including health care. I’m prejudiced about work versus retirement, i.e., I don’t think I could last more than 1-2 hours as a Walmart greeter if more than a couple people looked at me cross eyed or gave me some guff . . . I have lost all of my ability to juggle chaos.

        I think you would do fine in retirement. Again, it’s up to each person. The key in my mind is not being bored.

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 9:06 pm

        Oh yeah, I wouldn’t even be considering early SS if I wasn’t working over here. If I was still in the US, I’d have to work until I die…. ugh. Working part-time should take care of the boredom problem…. Not ready for full retirement yet and can’t afford that, but easing up a bit? Yeah, I’m in for that.

  25. djloo27 said, on October 25, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    I think 78 is the magic number for those who started collecting at 62. If you live longer than 78 than mathematically you cost yourself money. Who knows if we’ll see 78 and if we do what kind of shape will we be in? And who knows if SS will even still exist in 15 years? I say take it now and head for the track…

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 9:36 pm

      Yeah, I knew you’d say take it now. And funny you should mention 78, because in my mind, I’m seeing about 15 years left (though of course, how can we know?), which would take me to…. 77 …. so, that sounds about right.

  26. djloo27 said, on October 25, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    It’s easy to over think it, but there’s too much unknown.
    You’re a bright guy – you’ll always find a way.
    It’s your fuckin’ money.
    Take it back from the crooks who’ve been pocketing it since you were 14 while you still can…

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 9:54 pm

      Yep, and the way McConnell is talking, SS could be taking some hits from the crooks in Congress anyway. I think “overthinking” it is true, but that’s just me being in denial that I’m even old enough to be considering this shit….

      • djloo27 said, on October 25, 2018 at 10:01 pm

        Be smart Paul, and listen to an alcoholic, compulsive gambling, drug addict who still shovels snow for money.
        Who’s McConnell?

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 10:08 pm

        I’m listening to you, Loo… 🙂 Sorry, McConnell is Mitch McConnell, Senate majority leader, who has said that the GOP congress will be looking at possibly cutting SS and Medicare benefits to help shrink the deficit they added to with the “tax break” …..

      • djloo27 said, on October 25, 2018 at 10:13 pm

        You should be more concerned about the Giants outfield.
        Priorities, bro…

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 10:17 pm

        Ah, I already figured out the OF. Mac in LF, Duggar in CF, Slater in RF, 4th and 5th OFers are Gorkys and Shaw. Roll the dice. For probably about 2 months, and then need to go out and get some real OFers…..

  27. djloo27 said, on October 25, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    My retirement plan consists of Social Security and a very promising system of beating video blackjack…

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 10:43 pm

      I’m not much of a gambler, lose at pretty much everything, but I have played craps 3 times and won hundreds each time…. the only game I play….

  28. mrsprtdude said, on October 25, 2018 at 11:10 pm

    Paul,
    I’m a physical therapist full time, and work part time as a investment advisor / insurance sales. If you can afford to wait. wait. Even waiting one more year will help get you a bigger check when you retire. The 70k you mentioned. True you may miss it, but if you live 11 years you will get $500 more a month for much longer. How is your health? Statistically if you are 63 and in decent health you will live past 74, likely till 80. The gov gives the option to take the money early because they know you will likely earn less over time doing it. Not because they are being nice:)
    No “wrong choice” though. If you are unhappy working then taking the money so you are not is also a good way to go. Good luck, Mike

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on October 25, 2018 at 11:39 pm

      Thanks for that comment, appreciate it. I really would like to wait. Just not sure I can, for my own sanity. 🙂


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