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Say Goodbye to the Past and Hit the Reset Button

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 4, 2018
djloo27 said, on November 3, 2018 at 9:42 pm (Edit)

We owe Mad Bum big time…

Sure….give him a percentage of the team when he retires. I’d be down with that. But a big contract? No way. PLEEEEEASE don’t do it. Waste of money. He’s past his prime. Even if he bounces back a little, what good would it do to have a 20 million dollar a year pitcher on this team? Not to mention the fact that his main worth has always been in the post season. You think the 2019 Giants are headed to the post season? How about the 2020 team? Maybe 2022. MAYBE.

The Giants are the WORST at this but they have to learn when to cut the cord. Holding on to fan favorites makes some of the fans feel good but it does nothing for the record of your team.

I wouldn’t want this gig if I were a GM looking for a job. Saddled with a mountain of future payroll, aging players and a shitty farm system, what is there to work with? A ballpark that still looks pretty good?

Being a GM for the SF Giants would be one of the worst jobs you could get right now…..

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  1. blade3colorado said, on November 4, 2018 at 6:16 am

    Exactly. Giants MLB beat writer Chris Haft wrote this the day before yesterday . . .

    “If Bumgarner stays:

    • It will mean the new GM has decided to maintain the club’s perennial win-now approach.

    If Bumgarner goes:

    • It will indicate management is focusing more on rebuilding than competing for a postseason berth.”

    • Flavor said, on November 4, 2018 at 7:46 am

      my guess is that during the interview Baer makes it clear that *win now* is the only mandatory edit. And if that’s the case, how many qualified GM’s would want this job?

      • blade3colorado said, on November 4, 2018 at 8:17 am

        To me, everything about this process is a set-up for failure for the “new” guy or gal coming in. Let me count the ways:

        1. Sabean is still here. Remember, Evans had to report to Sabean. In my opinion, another set-up for failure if I ever saw one.

        2. Evans is still here. Why? The team said “Evans will be reassigned, with responsibilities to be determined.” Umm, what does that mean? Again, in my opinion, no good will come of this. He’ll probably be spreading rumors about the new guy or gal coming in. LOL.

        3. Read Baer’s end of the season letter to fans . . . Here’s a few nuggets from that letter:

        “To that end, as you probably read last week, we have begun the search for a chief baseball officer who will have full authority over all baseball operations. This person will be a driving force in creating our blueprint for the future. Brian Sabean, the architect of the Giants’ three World Series Championships and the most experienced and successful executive in Major League Baseball, will play a key advisory role in guiding the transition.”

        “Though we’re changing some personnel and practices, we’re not changing who we are. We will continue to invest deep resources into putting the best possible team on the field. Every move this off-season will be tested against one question: Will it help us win?”

        “These exclusive season ticket benefits include a new ticket exchange program that allows for more flexibility with managing tickets and a 20% discount on all food, beverage and merchandise purchases at concession stands.”

        Huh? Yeah, I’ll wait and see, but it sounds like SOS (SAME OLD SHIT).

  2. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2018 at 7:58 am

    None. Just like the Niners hiring a GM and saying you can’t fire the head coach we already hired.

  3. willedav said, on November 4, 2018 at 9:34 am

    Nonsense. Bum hasn’t pitched that much last 2 seasons, thereby saving some off the arm. He would have been in top 10 for the entire league last season had he pitched enough innings so don’t tell NL hitters he’s done. Lost some velo? OK but he can still get hitters out; btw Posey/Hundley they can make this work.

    If you want to be the Padres (which seems to be the goal from all the doom posts that dominate here) fine trade him and stick a bunch of kids in there.

    Better scenario is work out a reasonable deal for another 2-3 years and go from there. Pitching is still very important part of the game and the more quality arms you have the better. Keep Holland DRod Suarez and find out if Stratton or maybe Anderson can handle a full season.

    • djloo27 said, on November 4, 2018 at 9:47 am

      I’m with Willie. Bum knows how to pitch and is built to last. His 2 injuries were flukes. Crawford, Cueto, Belt and Posey are all signed through 2021 (Longo 2022). There was a time when early 30’s was considered a baseball player’s prime years, so maybe they have something left. Keeping Bum with the vets and phasing in some youth is really the only way they can go. I think they’ll extend him for 4/$110 and probably sign one of those OFs that were mentioned yesterday. For better or worse, this is what it is…

  4. snarkk said, on November 4, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    When your 3 main farm teams bring up the rear in their leagues, that’s no bueno for the foreseeable future. Plus, many bad contracts at the top. Mas no bueno. Oh, and you have to keep the one pitcher, Bum, that you could trade to re-stock with some decent minor leaguers. If I were a GM candidate, I’d ask for bonus combat pay plus a huge contract before signing on…

  5. Flavor said, on November 4, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    the argument “he can still get hitters out” is fine until you decide to give that guy 100 mil. If we were on the cusp of another run I’d say sure, do it. But we are wandering in the wilderness. The only thing Bum will be good for is trapping wild game for survival. Maybe build a hut, I dunno……

  6. djloo27 said, on November 4, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    It’s not much to cling to, but like I’ve said before, you never know when they’ll have one of those surprise good seasons when you don’t really expect it (1978, 1982, 1993, 1997…)

  7. zumiee said, on November 4, 2018 at 1:24 pm

  8. Flavor said, on November 4, 2018 at 2:44 pm

    if any of you subscribe to the Athletic, read Slater’s piece on Alfonzo McKinnie. His path to the NBA was truly remarkable.

  9. zumiee said, on November 4, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    The Rams/Saints game isn’t about defense.

  10. zumiee said, on November 4, 2018 at 3:46 pm

    I recently realized this is a pretty great song.

    • snarkk said, on November 4, 2018 at 7:40 pm

      I haven’t heard that song in dog’s years.
      Jerry Reed could friggin’ pick it.
      Youtube some vids of him and Glen Campbell doing some guitar duos. Awesome.
      Van Halen tried to get Glen Campbell to give him guitar lessons. You can look it up.
      In his day, Glen Campbell was one of the greatest all around guitarists on the planet.
      And, he could not read music. His lead guitar, and the music of the Wrecking Crew session players, was on many of the hits on the Beach Boys “Pet Sounds” album, one of the classic rock/pop albums of all time. The Beatles used it as inspiration to top it with Sgt. Peppers. Sloop John B is my fav Beach Boys song, it’s outta that album…
      Glen’s guitar licks, as a member of the Wrecking Crew session group, are on more #1 Billboard hits than anyone in history…

      • zumiee said, on November 4, 2018 at 8:24 pm

        Good info, Snarkk. Good stuff!

      • snarkk said, on November 4, 2018 at 8:37 pm

        Glen toured with the Beach Boys as one of them for 6 months back in the mid 60s. Their sound would not have been as classic as it is without him and the rest of the Wrecking Crew on the recordings. Brian Wilson would not record with the regular guys on the Beach Boys — they were mostly singers, not musicians…

  11. zumiee said, on November 4, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    Kinsler gets the last laugh. Makes a game-losing boneheaded play in the World Series, but also wins a Gold Gove, in addition to a World Series ring.

    • zumiee said, on November 4, 2018 at 8:34 pm

      No Gold Glove for Puig. (sad trombone)

  12. zumiee said, on November 4, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    No Gold Gloves for any Giants.
    A’s firstbase and thirdbase win.

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