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Just Release The Whole Team

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 11, 2018

Interesting to see the Giants tried to trade StrickIdiot somewhere, anywhere, before they just let him go. Were they too proud to accept some minor league stiff or did they literally not get offered anything for him? Another damning example of how our players are not valued even the slightest by other teams.

Very excited to see if the news of Belt getting traded goes anywhere. Unlike Strickland who has zero value there are apparently teams interested in Belt. It would shock me if anyone offered anything decent for a guy owed so much who is one beaning away from retirement.

Tuesday is waking up in Vegas. Will anything happen at these Winter Meetings?

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  1. Bozo said, on December 11, 2018 at 6:37 am

    With the Cards getting the Goldy one, I’ve been thinking that the Cubs might go all in on Harper. I’m pretty sure that would make Heyward the most expensive 4th OFer ever but man, what a lineup that would be.

    • gianthead said, on December 11, 2018 at 7:41 am

      Does not seem like the Cards are bothering with Harper…

      • Bozo said, on December 11, 2018 at 10:22 am

        Sorry, what I meant was, since the Cards got Goldschmidt I could see the Cubs going after Harper. Or did you mean the Cubs and not the Cards?

  2. willedav said, on December 11, 2018 at 7:41 am

    Of the Giants with larger contracts Belt would be probably be the easiest to trade. Even in an off year where he missed time due to multiple injuries he hit as well as Carlos Santana of the Phils who brought back pretty dang good player in return for him and top prospect. Belt has one more year on deal than Santana, played in much less friendly yard and is the better IF.

  3. willedav said, on December 11, 2018 at 7:45 am

    Thx to Loo for the W Reed highlight an iconic NY sports moment. that team goes down as one of best ever imo. Does M Albert still do Knicks games after 50 yrs?

    • djloo27 said, on December 11, 2018 at 2:55 pm

      Not for awhile now, Willedav. In his prime on the radio he was tremendous.
      I think he’s been awful for years…

  4. gianthead said, on December 11, 2018 at 7:48 am

    I could actually see either team in Texas interested in Belt. We would obviously have to throw in some cash and not get much back in prospects. Yanks are also not an inconceivable place to see him land in. If Yanks dont pursue Machado, are they still looking atshortstops. How about a Crawford/Belt combo to NY? Yanks are so right-handed heavy and not in need of Crawford or Belt carrying them offensively, they would be plus defenders…we would obviously have to take a bad contract or two (Gardner and/or Ellsbury) in return plus eating some cash and not top tier prospects in return…

    • gianthead said, on December 11, 2018 at 7:58 am

      Gardner makes just $7.5 next season and Ellsbury makes about $42.5 next 2 seasons with $5 mill buyout. So a grand total of $55 mill. Crawford and Belt set to make $97.2 combined over next 3 years. So would save the team about $42 mill. Would be just just about $3 mill savings first year, but just about $27 mill saved year 3.

      If we are going to tear things down to build, would not be the worst idea to stick Hanson into short and Posey/Shaw at first and put that extra $27 mill into a chase for Trout in 2021…

      • gianthead said, on December 11, 2018 at 8:20 am

        Yanks are $28 mill under the cap this coming year. Can add Belt Crawford for $4 mill in payroll and still have more for Machado and apparently in running to nab Syndergaard. Yanks are $108 million under the cap for 2020 and then $153 mill under for 2021 when they would have a $27 mill bump for Crawford Belt, so plenty of maneuverability for Yanks to make this deal and now have their hands tied.tied

  5. Flavor said, on December 11, 2018 at 9:46 am

    could not agree more with Krug’s

    • Bozo said, on December 11, 2018 at 10:37 am

      Count me in and as Baggs said “Hi, my name is Jose Martinez and I hit dingers.”.

    • gianthead said, on December 11, 2018 at 1:37 pm

      Well as a Krug I did not report it but I am so way on board with this deal…they want Dyson to get this deal done???

  6. Bozo said, on December 11, 2018 at 11:50 am

    Cutch gets a 3 year deal with Philly.

  7. alleykat69 said, on December 11, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    3 years 50 mil for Cutch??
    A declining player with shit defensive metrics, wow this one’s going to end up ugly in Philly where their fans are brutal..

    • Flavor said, on December 11, 2018 at 12:31 pm

      That is incredible.

      • sandog said, on December 11, 2018 at 12:39 pm

        More evidence that we screwed up by not offering him the Qualifying Offer.

      • Flavor said, on December 11, 2018 at 5:31 pm

        yes, now I’m convinced that was a huge mistake.

  8. willedav said, on December 11, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    His numbers in SF alone (high OB .770 OPS) last year would have outstripped their entire OF except for Hoskins who will move to 1b.
    Add in the NY numbers, which btw saw slugging go from .415 SF to .470 and OPS go from .772 to .892.
    He does anything in btw those, in that warm weather bandbox, Phils will be pretty happy. And as a vet position player brings that presence to the mostly young guys on team.

    • Bozo said, on December 11, 2018 at 1:06 pm

      Good call, Willie.
      Plus, I doubt that the Phillies are done dealing.

  9. Bozo said, on December 11, 2018 at 1:09 pm

    Jays cut Tulo with two years left on his contract.

    Can now be had at league minimum.

  10. gianthead said, on December 11, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    Good for McCutchen to steal $50 mill and not be arrested.

  11. unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    Cutch’s shitty ride here just gives other guys pause before making the leap to this place.

    Tell ya one thing, I was completely taken by surprise by how terrible his defense was.

    • djloo27 said, on December 11, 2018 at 3:57 pm

      Time goes slowly, Cutch carries on
      And now his best years, have come and gone
      Cutch took me by surprise
      I didn’t realize….he can’t catch any-thing

  12. zumiee said, on December 11, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    That could go so bad for Cutch in Philly, with those ruthless fans.

  13. djloo27 said, on December 11, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    I haven’t harped on this very much, but as you might know back in 2017 MLB decided to name the WS MVP Award after Willie Mays. I said at the time it was an outrage and that the award should clearly have been named for Reggie Jackson (you might know his nickname). For some reason today I feel like punching a wall over it. Why was there no backlash over this travesty? I think we all know why Reggie was snubbed…

    • Flavor said, on December 11, 2018 at 5:30 pm

      PK texted me worked up about Baines making the HOF. I don’t have it in me to get worked up about stuff like that (or this). Why do you give a shit what the award is called?

      • djloo27 said, on December 11, 2018 at 6:33 pm

        Why am I the only one who does?

      • Flavor said, on December 11, 2018 at 6:58 pm

        these are the questions we must ask ourselves to achieve complete enlightenment, my man…..

  14. zumiee said, on December 11, 2018 at 3:45 pm

    Brian Regan’s take on those awesome fishing shows on TV.

  15. Flavor said, on December 11, 2018 at 6:58 pm

    as most of us thought….

  16. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 11, 2018 at 7:11 pm

    I’m a bit curious about the Flap’s overall take on the “gang of 4” young-ish OFers (Mac, Duggar, Slater, Shaw). You guys saw them last season a lot more than I did. From what I can tell, most Flappers seem to think they’re all useless. For so many years, Flap posts bemoaned the lack of good young OFers coming up from the farm, and now there actually are 4 vying for a spot. Do they really suck? Or did the stench of a bad overall team just make it seem that way? I don’t know, I’m asking. Seems like maybe 1 or 2 of them could be serviceable in some way (if Mac can stay healthy and if the other 3 develop, even slowly)….. How patient would you be?

    • djloo27 said, on December 11, 2018 at 8:00 pm

      I think these guys have 20 HR / 90 RBI potential.
      Combined.

  17. unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    Apparently we don’t have a choice. They all have looked OK in small doses but prolonged exposure causes drowsiness. Mac prolly having the biggest upside power wise.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 11, 2018 at 7:37 pm

      Yeah, Charlie, it’s that “prolonged exposure” that’s the key. Very few young players come up and immediately perform (think Posey and Bum in 2010), most take awhile to develop. Just wondering how long is too long to wait and see what they’ve got. That’s what the team would be doing anyway in a major tear-down and rebuild….

  18. Macdog said, on December 11, 2018 at 8:00 pm

  19. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 11, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    20 HR / 90 RBI potential … I would take that for all of them combined from one position if they were platooning… Ok, I’m grasping now….

  20. willedav said, on December 11, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    Paul I wasn’t thrilled with Duggar initially but more he played more he showed me with the bat. He started to pull the ball and yanked one out of ATT right down the line. He also had couple game winning hits and when he got hurt he refused to come out and scored run that won a game from 2b. Then season was over. He looks great defensively. CF should be his, leadoff too. I’d say lot of upside, occasional pop.

    Slater had a high OB for a while but has zero pop. He seems to be one of those lucky guys whose dribblers and bloops find a hole, with better than league average BABIP. That can be unsustainable over time. Not a great OF, but should be OK for LF. Question would be how many guys like this can SF afford in LU.

    Shaw (LH) has all kinds of power, but making contact is another thing. Did get some ABs so he has an idea of what ML pitching looks like. Struck out a lot in AAA too, so hard to say what ceiling/floor is. Unless you trade Belt, dunno where best place to play him would be.

    Guy I liked was the Garcia kid who played passable 1b though he is primarily a C. He did have some pop in the bat in small sample size. If they lose Hundley I’d love to see more of him off the bench.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 11, 2018 at 8:47 pm

      Yeah, Willie, I also think Duggar has some upside. And Mac, who fixed his swing and showed some power before he got hurt… again… Slater and Shaw may well be Bowker Gang material. Maybe we’ll find out, maybe we won’t.

  21. alleykat69 said, on December 11, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    🤔 hmmm I think the redsox’s are up to something.Yeah they been working the phones about a Jackie Bradley trade, so signing the Gorkster is probably just a insurance cheap move for their Outfield.There trading Bradley is my call, though he’s a plus defender he’s streaky with the bat, though don’t say that to Houston who he single handily destroyed in the playoffs.

  22. pawliekokonuts said, on December 11, 2018 at 8:57 pm

    Somebody mentioned a qualifying offer for Cutch. Not sure of the byzantine rules, but I think his being traded disallows it.

    • djloo27 said, on December 11, 2018 at 9:24 pm

      I was wondering about that too, Pawlie…

  23. pawliekokonuts said, on December 11, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    OK, Loo, I give up. Why was Reggie snubbed for the award title? I was at his last game as a Yankee, as the Dodgers beat the Yanks in WS. The fans were merciless, chanting REG-GIE but sarcastically. I don’t know how one could tell, but you could.

    • djloo27 said, on December 11, 2018 at 9:28 pm

      He doesn’t fit the mold.
      Too outspoken, too controversial, too everything to suit the old boy network…

  24. sandog said, on December 11, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    We could have offered Cutch the QO. We should have done that. Most on here grossly underestimated his value on the open market.

    • djloo27 said, on December 12, 2018 at 3:58 am

      But he was a Yankee, right?
      Am I not getting it?

  25. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 11, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    As Bozo reported, Jays release Tulo with 2 years and 34mil left on his deal. That’s a bit of coin to eat. Not the Giants’ way (only Rowand comes to mind) but Smarge and/or Longo sure would look good “released” at this point…

    • djloo27 said, on December 12, 2018 at 4:01 am

      Longoria’s deal may eventually be considered the Giants’ worst contract ever.
      It has repercussions beyond the money…

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