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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 26, 2018

Still can’t believe how lame the Warriors looked last night. This dude on twitter nailed it, I can’t argue against this in the slightest except his spelling mistake.

Last year the same stuff happened, they got lost and complacent. The NBA season is so long, it’s probably hard to get these dudes motivated for anything but the playoffs. Still, as fans we watch all these games and they just aren’t worth moving your day/night around to watch anymore….

Not like the Giants, my entire world is set nightly to revolve around them. Lqtm….

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  1. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 26, 2018 at 9:45 am

    Saw some rumors circulating about Jason Heyward for Melancon and Smith. Another LH hitter but he and Duggar could cover CF/RF. If the Giants can get a prospect included it might be worth considering?

    • Flavor said, on December 26, 2018 at 11:43 am

      Heyward can’t hit. He’d hit .220 at ATT for the full season. I’m tired of dudes and their defensive prowess we need guys who can fucking mash the baseball

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 26, 2018 at 11:57 am

        fwiw, he’s posted a 1.22 OPS lifetime with 7 bombs over 85 ab at At&t.

      • snarkk said, on December 26, 2018 at 12:20 pm

        Thank you…

  2. cousinboogie said, on December 26, 2018 at 10:58 am

    Dubs need more all-stars ASAP. Get Westbrook and Leonard here now! Can LeBron come and join our team, too? He’s our daddy even when he doesn’t play. I hate being a Dubs fan and having to deal with close games and losses again.

    • zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 11:32 am

  3. snarkk said, on December 26, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    I’m OK with Duggar covering CF.
    But, the RF and LF spots need players that can actually hit, and hit a few HRs.
    Outfielders that can hit and drive in runs. What a concept…

  4. zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 12:44 pm

    The MLB Network is bleh today. The two biggest free agents are schmucks.

  5. Bozo said, on December 26, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    Hey Willie, thanks for the heads up about Hop Wilson (Poppa Hop). Man, that is some mean blues slide guitar work.

  6. alleykat69 said, on December 26, 2018 at 1:38 pm

    Nothing much is going to happen till Harper &Machado sign then the dominoes will fall into place..

  7. Flavor said, on December 26, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    I didnt check heyward’s att stats before I posted my disparaging comment about him. Guessing he did most of that damage earlier in his career. He’s just not a very good hitter anymore with a huge hole in his swing. I guess I’d take him if it meant we’d get rid of melancon but that’s really all he’s good for. Defense and getting rid of Melancon

  8. djloo27 said, on December 26, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    Heyward has $126 million guaranteed still to come. Melon & Wince less than $40 million combined.
    This deal has zero chance of happening…

  9. snarkk said, on December 26, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    I heard Melancon on a radio interview a few weeks back. KNBR, I think.
    Said his arm was feeling good. Wow, bombshell news.
    I didn’t exactly expect him to say it felt like overcooked linguini.
    Listening to him was like listening to paint dry. Ugh.
    If he’s in the Pen again, there is no reason to think other than he’s going to suck again.
    Then, what to do?
    Let Boch continue to put him into 8th inning high leverage situations, because he’s getting a big paycheck?
    Just say No.
    ZMan should do everything possible to get rid of this SabEvans Bust…

    • zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 4:08 pm

      I hope Zaidi has a sense of humor. It will help get him through this season.

  10. Bozo said, on December 26, 2018 at 4:12 pm

    Melancon has a full no-trade contract, Heyward has a partial no-trade (I don’t know if SF is on that list), Smith is our best trade chip. Loo mentioned the numbers and I agree with him, this has zero chance of happening.

  11. Flavor said, on December 26, 2018 at 4:18 pm

    having a no trade clause just gives the player leverage on where to go. It doesn’t mean he wants to stay. Why would he want to stay in SF? Maybe he’d rather play closer to something else. He’s movable, if healthy

  12. Flavor said, on December 26, 2018 at 4:20 pm

    LOL I had NO IDEA Heyward had that much dough still owed. Man, FUCK THAT, under any circumstance, fuck that.

  13. Flavor said, on December 26, 2018 at 4:22 pm

    Heyward hasn’t had an .800 OPS season since 2012. He’d be hard pressed to niggle it into the .700’s if he played at ATT full time.

    • Flavor said, on December 26, 2018 at 4:25 pm

      and he’s had a *Buster-like* power outage over the last 3 years. That fucker has still got 126 mil coming to him? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

      • snarkk said, on December 26, 2018 at 4:46 pm

        These MLB contracts are just insane.
        Good luck to the loons that sign Harper to some mega deal. He ain’t worth it…

  14. Irish Kevin said, on December 26, 2018 at 6:11 pm

    I hope the Giant s don’t go into the sign an aging vet FA just because they can’t find a young player to sign! I still believe they need to fire all the scouts and whoever else is evaluating players for the draft. How can the Giants go for soooo long with out a power hitting OF, even one who can hit for a .300+ average. The other thing is hitters need to quit complaining about the shift and learn how to hit to beat the shift. Belt should have been working on how to slap the ball down the left field line this whole off season.

    • djloo27 said, on December 26, 2018 at 7:24 pm

      Signing a vet FA outfielder to a short term deal wouldn’t surprise me if more creative stuff can’t be done.
      Adam Jones would be a classic Giant move…

  15. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 26, 2018 at 7:06 pm

    Yeah, Zum, MLB talking about Harper and Machado all the time now until something moves. They say these two will end up in Philly or White Sox (they’re not sure which player goes where exactly). But Dodgers (Harper) and Yanks (Machado) are quite possible. Boring. I’d be happy if the Mighty Z does addition by subtraction and somehow jettisons the contracts of Smarge, MelonHead, and Longoria and then fills in the pieces.

    • zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 7:17 pm

      Yeah, those are the three most hideous contracts on a team loaded with problematic contracts. Good luck, Zaidi. We’ll see how much freedom he has.

  16. alleykat69 said, on December 26, 2018 at 7:23 pm

    The Mighty Z will have to have a “Mind Control Powerful Trance like in Manchurian Candidate” on the tightwad billionaire Charles Johnson for anything to happen with all these ridiculous contacts to go away..

  17. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 26, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    I could probably dig it up somewhere, but just asking, does anyone know offhand how much % of the team Charles Johnson actually owns? I remember thinking he was majority owner but recently heard it’s more like around 25% or some such. Maybe the biggest single owner…

  18. willedav said, on December 26, 2018 at 8:07 pm

    Bozo thx I’ve been meaning to look into this guy too. His song on the Blue Yule CD is called Merry Christmas Darling and according to liner notes Kim Wilson did it too on Austin R and B Christmas Album.
    The group is listed as Poppa Hop and his Orchestra but it sounds like just him and rhythm section and those 3 are awesome plus that slashing guitar. The song of the CD which I played at work again today is best one out of all 18 cuts.

  19. zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 8:10 pm

    I would hope that Sabean/Evans don’t feel that Giants fans are ungrateful jerks. S & E will always be huge heroes for their part in the 3 in 5.
    But all the awful contracts the Giants have now are strong evidence the game passed S & E by rather suddenly. The ball is juiced, teams use analytics up the wazoo, and big contracts to older vets are a death sentence. S & E didn’t react to the changes. They seemed befuddled by it all.

    • zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 8:11 pm

      Plus the drafting of players had turned horribly inept.

  20. alleykat69 said, on December 26, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    Good points Zumie!
    I also wonder if Boch had any pull with S&E on players picked up since he “Always” leaned on older vets presence’s on his roster?

    • zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 8:28 pm

      Yeah, Bochy Ball is officially dead and buried. RIP Bochy Ball. It had a great run.

  21. zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    The Kings are getting their buttocks kicked by the Clippers, in L.A.

    • zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 8:50 pm

      Wherever Jerry West goes, his team starts winning. It ain’t no coincidence.

  22. Flavor said, on December 26, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    i miss this stuff

    • zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 9:05 pm

      A good example why the rules were changed to allow the offensive line to defend themselves on those.

  23. zumiee said, on December 26, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    The Kings did make it close at the end. They didn’t quit. The bench played well. The starters had an off-night.

    • Flavor said, on December 27, 2018 at 7:58 am

      Joerger really spread the minutes out last night—with an eye on tonight’s b2b with the Lakers.

  24. willedav said, on December 27, 2018 at 8:02 am

    The other 3 Cal teams are much improved and they aren’t only ones in West. Warriors of course are not and some wear and tear starting to show on Thompson and Green along with Livingston and Iguodala.
    GS drafts have been awful and their curious decision on how to man C position after D West retirement and allowing McGee to walk has come back to haunt them. They’ve also never replaced Ian Clark as G off the bench who can shoot and score a little.

    Obviously teams have a blueprint on how to play vs. them (which has been working lately even with close Ws over Kings Clips Dallas) so next adjustment is on players. Part of this is on Kerr too–I think there are times he leaves his stars in there too long (like when Green was melting down the other night), just because of what they have done in past. Large part of this is dealing with who he has to fill in minutes behind them.
    Great theater tho.

    • zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 8:27 am

      Great post.

    • unca_chuck said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:57 am

      Willie, with little help, at least scoring, coming from the bench other than Jerebko, he can’t do much other than count on the starting guys.

    • Flavor said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:57 am

      to me, their biggest mistake was not addressing the C position. D-Jones should have been a back up plan not the go-to plan right out of the gate. Looney is better off coming off the bench. They should have gotten someone a little more proven and they just let McGee and Zaza flitter off into the wind. Dubs are getting killed inside lately…..

  25. mrsprtdude said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:19 am

    Kerr making decisions on what the players have done in the past is an issue. He should go chat with Bochy:)

  26. Flavor said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:53 am

    lol, he lists off 8 teams here. How is this drivel coming from a supposed *insider*?

    • zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:58 am

      He’s a guy trying to justify his job as baseball reporter. It gets kind of silly sometimes.

  27. unca_chuck said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:55 am

    Livingston is a ghost. A mirage, a, a hologram if you will. And bench scoring and depth is a problem. Boogie will fix the inside issues, should he ever actually play, but he can’t be counted on as a presence till the playoffs roll around. Iggy is just too old to count on consistently. Looney is pretty much awful and if not for McKinnie and Jerebko off the bench, they would be doing worse. Bell isn’t getting better on offense, and in general rim protection and 2nd chance points are non-existent. We regularly get killed on the boards.

  28. snarkk said, on December 27, 2018 at 10:54 am

    Yeah, Dubs miss the big guys.
    Don’t forget, those guys were good at giving screens to loosen up the 3s.
    The 3s aren’t dropping like before, because they’re being more contested…

  29. willedav said, on December 27, 2018 at 10:59 am

    Flav is definitely right about Lakers being better than anyone including myself thought. However, they lost to Washington and Nets on road and Memphis at home within last 10 days. Currently they are 17th in league for points allowed.
    There are legit 13 good teams in West in contention for 8 playoff spots. 10 of those are already over .500 Dallas and Utah 1 under TWolves 2 under. So rest of season in West is gonna be dogfight for playoffs.
    Lakers Kings Clips all have more games vs. each other rest of week. Good for Cali teams rivalries to see all playing well.

  30. gianthead said, on December 27, 2018 at 11:09 am

    Heyward f’ing sucks…no way around it. That contract is worse than an albatross…let that hang on the Cards necks…

  31. unca_chuck said, on December 27, 2018 at 11:41 am

    McGee I agree with. Zaza not so much. He is good vs half court teams, but most of the west is up-tempo. He’s lost in the fast paced games. Looney is worthless at boxing out and positioning himself to get rebounds. And I thought Bell would be much better than he has shown on both sides.

    Jones is out, right?

    • willedav said, on December 27, 2018 at 11:59 am

      yes likely most of rest of season.

    • unca_chuck said, on December 27, 2018 at 12:42 pm

      Ahh, shit. Thanks.

  32. zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    The Kings really missed Bagley last night. Against certain big men, Cauley-Stein gets thrown around like a rag doll. No chance against that Harrell dude on the Clippers last night.

    • willedav said, on December 27, 2018 at 1:00 pm

      Harell is a load. Any word on how bad Bagley’s knee is?
      Didn’t warriors have Koufos years ago too? Haven’t seen much of him in long time…

  33. unca_chuck said, on December 27, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    Yeah, I’m surprised by the Lakers. They looked so crappy from the get-go.

    What is weird is the Dubs just aren’;t passing like they usually do. These days it’s one gun and done. No passing, rebounding, or fast breaks like we usually get.

    • zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 12:46 pm

      Chandler was a nice pick-up for the Lakers. He’s still a pretty effective shot-blocker and rebounder.

      • sandog said, on December 27, 2018 at 12:56 pm

        It was disappointing to go all the way up there to see the Kings play so poorly. Fox did look very good, so that was fun to watch. I made the same comment about Harrell killing us and Bagley would have been a big help on him. Another Kings mistake was trading Zach Collins for Harry Giiles and Justin Jackson. Zach Collins could help this team big time.
        Weird to see the Clippers with such a mixed bag of players after having those 3 stars anchor the team for a few years. Staples is a great place to see a game. $10 parking right down the street with lots to do in the area before the game. Dropped my son off in Newport Beach after the game as he went snowboarding today.
        I made it home to the mountains by 2:00.
        Moving a bit slow today.

      • zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 1:34 pm

        Hopefully they’ll get off to a better start vs. the Lakers tonight.

  34. willedav said, on December 27, 2018 at 1:07 pm

    Awesome SD. Yeah funny how Clips have managed to “go in a different direction” dump Paul and Griffin and be in thick of things even with Doc still coaching them.
    I think it’s great there are more good young bigs in the game today to provide some balance to all the perimeter shooting, force teams to defend the rim and protect it at other end. Wonder how many them do P Newell drills, or even know who he is.

  35. zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 6:50 pm

    Reading a review about Better Call Saul, the reviewer wrote about Kim Wexler: “There may be no character on TV I care about more: If anything happens to Kim, I swear I’ll never recover.”
    Yeah, we do worry about her. She really does need to get away from Jimmy/Saul.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 27, 2018 at 7:23 pm

      Yeah, she’s a pretty cool character. Very disappointed, though, in that last season. Felt like they mailed it in. Need to pick it up next time. Also heard of a Breaking Bad movie, where we finally get to find out what happened to Jesse. That would be cool too. And I think Saul could be interesting once they shift to present time in Omaha.

      • zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 8:22 pm

        Yes, getting to Saul’s present timeline would be a great move at some point. The prequelling can only go on so long.
        I agree this past season spun its wheels going nowhere sometimes.

  36. mrsprtdude said, on December 27, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    Re Dubs… Inside is not the issue. If Green and Klay hit the same shooting percentage they have for the last 4 years…that is 2 points for DG and 3 for KT. They score 4 mores points per game and they win .75% of there games. 27-8 vs 23-12. Not complicated. 2 of 4 All stars are not playing well. Add in Curry missed games and you see why they are good but not great in 2018…

    • Flavor said, on December 27, 2018 at 8:13 pm

      true, they live and die by the 3. But they are still getting killed inside, that’s not even debatable.

  37. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 27, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    Scanning the news on MLB… lots happening… none of it very interesting… and not much going down that I wish the Giants had done. Still in Z we trust to bring forth new year’s (new season’s) resolutions. Maybe after the turn of the calendar.

    • djloo27 said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:09 pm

      The 2029 calendar, bro…

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:53 pm

        Touche’…..

  38. zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    I’m beginning to think the Lakers are pretty legit.

  39. zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    Kings win at the buzzer!!!! Great finish!!!!
    Great shot by Bogdonavich.

  40. pawliekokonuts said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    Just a matter of hours, maybe days for my mom: https://thelaughorist.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-first-last-christmas.html

    • zumiee said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:38 pm

      Beautiful tribute of love, Pawlie. I remember some similar feelings at the end of my dad’s life. He lived to be 91.

  41. djloo27 said, on December 27, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    I don’t have to read your 11 books to know this is your finest work.
    You’re the Say Hey Son…

    • pawliekokonuts said, on December 28, 2018 at 12:07 am

      thanks

  42. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 27, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    Pawlie… beautiful sentiments for a life well and long lived. Hope you still have some moments together.

  43. pawliekokonuts said, on December 28, 2018 at 12:07 am

    thank you . . . keeping a vigil; loved ones and friends supporting


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