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The Trade Deadline

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 12, 2019

Since April 28th Will Smith has walked one batter. For the season he’s walked 5 (against 37Ks).  That’s poor man’s Dennis Eckersley territory. In ’89 The Eck walked three. In ’90 he walked four. We simply have to maximize the haul we get for this guy and I still think the best way to do it is to package him with Bum. A desperate team shoving all their chips in the pot would pay up monster booty for a post season legend and possibly the best closer in the league, right?

Depending on who we flip Smith for, sending 2 time drug loser Bickford to the Brewers for Smith may go down as Sabean’s best trade ever.

Nice to see Young Beedah improve his bb/k ratio a bit (2/7) and maybe going 5 innings is all this dude is ever going to do consistently. In today’s game though, there is a place for that. One thing to consider: after we tear down our solid bullpen for new players I hope Z can build it back up again……

 

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  1. dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2019 at 6:30 am

    I’m just glad Beatles Flap, which is the worst, has ended.

    • Flavor said, on June 12, 2019 at 6:48 am

      I’m always fine tuning and modifying my bottom 5, bottom 10 etc. Will try to post at least bi-yearly

  2. Bozo said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:22 am

    Yeah, since both Bum and Smith will only be rentals, combining them in a package might be the best way to go. If they go for separate trades and they can’t get what they want for Bum, I could see them keeping him for the rest of the year and going with the Qualifying Offer. Me, I’d sign Bum to a three year contract.

  3. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:24 am

    Speaking of the Beatles, I forgot to mention another favorite I like play on guitar, Harrison’s “If I Needed Someone.” Harrision built the song around a D chord, with a capo on the 7th fret. Very original for its time. I don’t use the capo and just play it with a regular D chord, which puts it in a better range for my voice.

    • zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:30 am

      This guy shows what Harrision was doing. It’s classic Beatles in that it’s original, instantly catchy, and not super hard to play. The main riff is a little trickier to play than it looks, but just takes some practice, of course.

      • zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:36 am

        And, by the way, Rickenbackers are gloriously beautiful guitars. Peter Buck often played one for REM.

    • James said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:28 am

      I some times play the riffs to “Day Tripper,” “Rebel Rouser,” “Pretty Woman,” and “Amanda Ruth” back to back to back to back to prove to myself early onset hasn’t arrived. It isn’t always flawless.

      • zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:50 am

        🙂

  4. gianthead said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:25 am

    If anyone wants my Top 5 Priest songs…I stand by the ready. As a tease…#5 Beyond the Realms of Death…live version!!!

    I am betting the Phills would put most in the pot for Bum and Will Smith…they have a shot at the NL Pennant and beating the Lala Fodgers..we should help get that done!!

    • Flavor said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:13 am

      I guarantee diggity wants this badly

      • sandog said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:27 am

        BRING IT ON G!

  5. willedav said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:31 am

    The Pads traded Brad Hand to Tribe along with another reliever, and got top rated prospect Francisco Mejia. Mejia is only 23 but isn’t hitting above Mendoza line for them and never has at ML level in his first 125 ABs.

    And yes amen to last sentence of main thread. It’s fine to knock everything down and I’m sure that will make lot of fans feel good. But it’s quite another to replace and improve it, especially for the more talented ones you deal off.

    Beede has only made handful of starts. At one point last night he retired 11 in a row including blowing high hard one by Machado. They had epic long battle for his finale last night and wound up walking him; Machado could not square one up. Flems had raved about him earlier on radio, throwing slider and changeup. I thought he got to nibbling out of stretch.

  6. willedav said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:36 am

    off hand I think trying to package both of bum and Smith would narrow the market considerably. Individually I think you would have better chance of getting more teams involved which could hopefully wind up with better return.

  7. unca_chuck said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:47 am

    Hellion/Electric Eye is always good for a spin . . .

    In that vein,

    Wasted Years by Maiden . . .

  8. snarkk said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:07 am

    You can’t be scared of pulling the trigger on a trade for prospects for Bum, Smith or anybody else. This current team is going nowhere the next few years, and those guys are $300 tires on a Yugo. The minors have Bart, Ramos and ghosts. Time to re-stock, do the best you can pickin’ ’em with the best scouting info you have…

    • alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:39 am

      Zman has come out and said he won’t trade Bum if he feels he’s not getting the full value in return.Hope he sticks to that approach..
      Sabes made some solid traded in his early days, the Matt Williams roasting he originally took panned out real good with Jeff Kent’s dominant Giant run and Williams decline..
      Absolute Steal of Jason Schmidt from the Pirates(one of his best trades ever imo)
      The 3 pitchers he grabbed from the Whitesox’s Danny Darwin starter Roberto Hernandez closer drawing a blank on the other guy a starter, but all 3 helped them take the division that year

      • Bozo said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:23 am

        Don’t forget JT Snow, Robb Nen, Ellis Burks, Kenny Lofton, Freddie Sanchez, Javier Lopez (the Bowker trade, that was pretty huge)… He also made some clunkers, lets just start and end that list with AJ Pierzynski.

  9. snarkk said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:30 am

    They have to keep trotting Beede out there to test this guy’s mettle. He shows signs of improvement. He’s a first rounder. They owe the investment of that pick to find out if this guy is AAAA forever, or he can make it as even a #5. It’s not like his starts turning to losses is going to crater chances for a playoff spot…

    • alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:50 am

      Agree Snarkk..Beede has stuff when he locates it well,heater that moves, snapping breaking ball,it’s just overall command,and games played experience wise he needs.Wasnt like the Padres hit him hard( couple of cheap infield hits) in the 5th but that leadoff walk after the Giants just took the lead is not what you want,you need that shutdown inning there!
      But still pitch the guy, nothing to lose and plenty to gain.Who needs to see Pomegranate out there are even Holland?it’s just useless roster spots imo..

  10. Flavor said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:52 am

    I’m a well documented Preist detester but I’m willing to peruse GH’s list

  11. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:53 am

    Sabean could win trades back in the day, but when all the new analytics-driven GMs arrived, Sabean/Evans started to get smoked on trades and free agent signings.

  12. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:56 am

    Speaking of music, disturbing news about the Universal Studio fire cover-up, and all the master tapes of albums lost, including some from Elton John and REM. Yikes.

  13. sandog said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:03 am

    I’m busy as hell (graduation tomorrow), so here is my hasty top 5 Priest songs……..

    You Don’t Have To Be Old To Be Wise
    Desert Plains
    Fever
    Devil’s Child
    Heading Out To The Highway

    Fever and Devil’s Child great one-two punch to end the awesome Screaming For Vengeance album.

    I also was at that Priest show at the Cow Palace. Also saw them play the entire British Steel album at Open Air Theater at SDSU, which was awesome. Great venue—like 3500 seats outdoors.

    Expand your horizons Flappers—and check out some JP!
    Desert Plains is a good gateway tune to get you started.

    • gianthead said, on June 12, 2019 at 11:25 am

      what year was the SDSU gig? Outdoor show here 6-7 years ago was loudest concert of any band since high school…

  14. Macdog said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:12 am

    Beede’s undoing last night was inability to put away opposing pitcher Paddack after getting up 0-2 on two failed bunt attempts, Paddack ended up working a long AB into an infield single and first career hit. I agree, though, Beede should’ve stayed in after Machado walk, especially since Bochy brought in another righty to face Hosmer.

  15. djloo27 said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:24 am

    Top 5 Abba:

    1. S.O.S.
    2. Waterloo
    3. Dancing Queen
    4. Take A Chance On Me
    5. Fernando

    • sandog said, on June 12, 2019 at 10:04 am

      No Super Trouper? Outrageous!!!

      • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2019 at 10:29 am

        Just be happy you’re finally graduating…

    • gianthead said, on June 12, 2019 at 11:22 am

      Cannot put Dancing Queen or Fernando on there:(

  16. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:35 am

    Yeah when you still have the lead 3-2 and you need one more out to qualify for a win,what better test then the baseloaded to show your grit.And why bring in Gott the right handed? He coughs up the lead and I’m sure Beede wasn’t thrilled watching that in the dugout.Others have mentioned if that was a vet on the bump,Boch leaves him in, totally agree and another reason he needs to move on,to hooked in with his bromance of Vets..

  17. djloo27 said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:45 am

    Sergio Romo 2011:

    70-Ks
    5-BBs

    • Flavor said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:52 am

      yes. He should have gotten more credit for that season it was one of the best of all time.

  18. dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:58 am

    Sort of interesting.

  19. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 10:31 am

    The Beatles also should get a huge amount of credit for helping our nation get through its grief over the JFK assassination, especially young people. We were a grieving depressed nation in the cold February of ’64 when the Beatles arrived to perform on the Ed Sullivan show. The Beatles’ incredibly upbeat songs and spirit showed young people that things weren’t over, nothing was over. Everything was just starting.

    • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2019 at 11:00 am

      On the negative side, Vietnam and race riots were picking up some steam, too.
      Eight days a week…

      • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2019 at 11:03 am

      • zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 11:13 am

        Photos like that are a reminder that the vast majority of major leaguers in history were mediocre. And the older eras didn’t even make great money.

      • unca_chuck said, on June 12, 2019 at 12:03 pm

        I wouldn’t say mediocre. The pool of players was a lot smaller, and a lot of major league caliber guys toiled away in the minors.

  20. gianthead said, on June 12, 2019 at 11:21 am

    Ok DogSan…sorry was tied up..

    Gave you my #5…
    #4 The Ripper – quintessential Priest
    #3 Green Manalishi (with the Two-Pronged Crown) – Live from Unleashed in the East and Halford at his maniacal best.
    #2 Diamonds and Rust – Live as well (Joan Baez song)
    #1 Desert Plains….full agreement there buddy. Everyone go home tonight, turn off all the lights and crank your speakers to 11 and listen to this earth shaking song…”Wild Mountain Thunder echoes my quest…”

    • gianthead said, on June 12, 2019 at 11:26 am

      We did a road trip SF to Vegas ’93 and made the one guy who hated metal crank Desert Plains while he drove through the desert at night…drinking heavily of course…

  21. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 11:51 am

    James mentioned the Day Tripper riff….that’s a fun one. You get to hit an open low E string, which always sounds great on a guitar. That low E string has started many a riff for many different songs by many different guitar players over the years.
    This guy shows what all the guitars are doing on that song.

  22. unca_chuck said, on June 12, 2019 at 12:02 pm

    Green Manalishi is awesome. A song that is nearly equal by both bands. Not better than FM, but close. They didn’t quite pull a Hendrix and take away the song a la All Along the Watchtower, but it was close.

    OK, AC/DC now:

    Top 5:

    Ride On
    Whole Lotta Rosie Live (ANGUS! ANGUS!)
    Problem Child
    Live Wire
    Gone Shootin’

  23. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 12:29 pm

    ACDC top 10
    Back in Black
    Whole lotta of Rosie
    You shook me all night long
    Problem Child
    Live Wire
    Hells Bells
    Highway to Hell
    Jail Break
    Thunder Struck
    TNT

  24. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 12:35 pm

    More than just rock master tapes lost in the big fire at Universal:
    “These first generation master recordings spanning more than half a century’s worth of music may total 500,000 individual tracks, the report says, including such cultural touchstones as Bill Haley & His Comets’ genre-launching hit “Rock Around the Clock,” the Kingsmen’s garage-rock classic “Louie Louie,” Etta James’ immortal ballad of romantic reconciliation “At Last” and quite possibly the entire recorded catalogs of artists including Billie Holiday and Buddy Holly.
    Other artists whose master recordings were destroyed include jazz greats Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, John Coltrane and Dizzy Gillespie; blues masters Muddy Waters, Howlin’ Wolf, Bo Diddley, John Lee Hooker, Willie Dixon, Buddy Guy and Little Walter; and most of the original rock-defining recordings made at Chicago’s Chess Records label by Chuck Berry.
    Some of Aretha Franklin’s earliest recordings also are believed to be among those destroyed, along with outtakes and never-released recordings by hundreds, if not thousands, of musicians, among them Elton John, Cat Stevens, Nirvana, the Eagles, Aerosmith, Steely Dan, Ray Charles, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, Soundgarden, Hole, Eminem, 50 Cent and Snoop Dogg.”

    • zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 12:42 pm

      Probably not a good idea keeping them all in the same location.

  25. unca_chuck said, on June 12, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    Good calkl on jail break

  26. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 12:43 pm

    #1 song that will clear out a bar,Are Who the F played that?
    Captain&Tennile
    Muskrat Love…Its all about the Chipmunks sound lol🐿

  27. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    “ANAHEIM – Dodgers shortstop Corey Seager received an initial diagnosis of a Grade 2-plus strain of his left hamstring he suffered while running the bases in the ninth inning of Tuesday night’s 5-3 loss to the Angels.
    Seager will undergo an MRI on Wednesday for verification, but the Dodgers are expected to lose him for four to six weeks”

    • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2019 at 3:23 pm

      Might help us stay within 30 games of them…

      • zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 5:13 pm

        Maybe.

  28. djloo27 said, on June 12, 2019 at 4:29 pm

    1. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
    2. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    3. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
    4. Buster Posey (R) C
    5. Tyler Austin (R) LF
    6. Kevin Pillar (R) RF
    7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    8. Steven Duggar (L) CF
    9. Shaun Anderson (R) P

  29. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 5:47 pm

    Solano has a WAR of -0.2 this season so far. Ouch.

    • Macdog said, on June 12, 2019 at 6:24 pm

      I’m surprised it’s not worse.

  30. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 5:51 pm

    I like how they panned in on Bochy in the dugout talking about how Aramis Garcia really gets it now with the staff overall process of the game etc, so of course he’s back on the bus to Sac to make room for Posey’s return.

  31. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 12, 2019 at 6:03 pm

    Unless I’ve missed something in recent days, the revolving door seems to have quieted a bit. That’s been my main interest this season….

  32. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    Unfortunately the revolving door should include useless players like Pomegranate & Holland..

  33. Macdog said, on June 12, 2019 at 6:27 pm

    More bizarre MLB scheduling: Yanks and Mets both off on a Wednesday.

  34. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    Giants don’t play on the 4th of July🎇🍺🌭💥🍔🥩🍹🥤🍷⚾️That’s just sacraleze, you have to baseball on the radio/TV when your fire 🔥 up the BBQ grill..

  35. Bozo said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:21 pm

    Pillar did it with his glove and now with his bat. He smoked dat thing.

  36. Macdog said, on June 12, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    Congrats to the Blues!

    • Flavor said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:19 pm

      what’d they do

      • Macdog said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:21 pm

        Won their first-ever Stanley Cup title. Hockey season is over!

      • djloo27 said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:42 pm

        And training camp opens in about 10 weeks…

  37. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:03 pm

    Ooooh that throw from Belt to 3rd nailed the ump right in the nuts!!🥜

  38. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 8:20 pm

    What a gift run on that blooper..
    Solano has way to many moving parts in the batters box to have much success imo

  39. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    Solano again!

    • Macdog said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:06 pm

      Get that WAR up!

      • zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:27 pm

        Zero can be attained! 🙂

  40. Macdog said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:38 pm

    Mini sweep!

  41. alleykat69 said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:39 pm

    Damm that Hunter Renfroe is a stud ballplayer!
    Shit baseloaded, come on Will, That a babe way to mail it down!!
    2game Sweeep!!lol

  42. djloo27 said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:40 pm

  43. willedav said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:40 pm

    And Solano catches final out as Giants sweep Padres. I know Giants didn’t show much power, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching both these Ws. good for Anderson and pen guys, Smith included.

    • zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:42 pm

  44. zumiee said, on June 12, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    Anderson had good movement on his stuff. He seemed really legit tonight.

  45. mrsprtdude said, on June 12, 2019 at 11:07 pm

    Clint!!


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