Cubbies And For The Love of God Don’t Offer Bum a Contract!
I’m cautiously optimistic tonight, the Cubs have one of the worst VMI numbers on the board for hitters so maybe Anderson shackles them a bit. I hope our guys got some sleep last night, they’ve been burning the adrenaline at both ends lately and we are facing an unknown guy tonight—this almost always ends badly. But maybe they just pitcher-duel it till we get to our bullpen and then wait for one of the young men to come to the plate and blast us to another walk off victory.
We’re at .500 again. Me and the housewives are nervously awaiting 1 game over .500 and what that will feel like…
Ok WillieD, let’s go. Where’s everyone stand on this?
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Bad things happen when you don’t keep your cap 🧢 on straight!
Dyson closing is intriguing.
Auditioning for when Smith is gone?…
Comeback win, send the obnoxious Cubs fans out with an L, and go over .500!
Wasn’t easy, but that is a gutty gutty win. Over .500!!!
51-50 How about them Giants!!!0ver .500
over here this time. shut the f-ing Cubs fans up! thank you.
Dyson was a little scary there . . .
Took some balls not going with Watson against the lefty, but it worked out..
Giants have definitely changed something. For nearly 3 years they haven’t had the ability to come back from a deficit. Now, they’re doing it with alacrity…
Gott now 7-0, haha.
Yeah this game gave me some 5150 symptoms!!
Watching the game on MLB..Just me or are the crowds getting bigger again?
The roar when Panik got the hit in the 8th was loud!!
Re the thread Craig.. TRADE Bum. Get something for him or keep him and ride this wave but no long term deal IMO…
They said 37,000 but it was a solid 25,000. Yeah, the crowds are coming back. The 18-2 debacle we saw in May was around 16,000.
Does anybody know if Bum would give Giants some kind of home town discount on an extension? IDK. But, I’m strongly guessing he figures he ALREADY gave them a home town discount with that stoopid contract his agent had him sign years ago that took away his arb years + two FA years. So, I’m figuring chances are if Bum stays, and then becomes a free agent, he’s gone in the offseason to whoever gives him the most cash, as long as that team is not a dogmeat team with no shot at the playoffs the next few years. Somebody not SF will pay him a shitton of cash and make a fool of themselves. So, if the Giants don’t trade him, they need to be ready to get zilch for losing him to FAgency, except maybe a compensatory draft pick, which is the near equivalent to zilch…
He’s talking like he will. He doesn’t want to leave now, anyway.
Whether that means he would sign a team friendly deal after the season and deal ends is anyone’s guess. That’s why I’d say 3/90-100.
Bum has never, as far as I know, expressed angst over money. He’s already rich beyond his dreams and he doesn’t worry about it. If he later badmouths the Giants about money I’ll be shocked.
Juice-ball fun fact:
With two months to go, the Twins have tied the MLB record for most games with 5 or more HRs.
I read recently that if the “on pace to…” holds 8 of the 10 highest team HR’s totals in a season will be in 2019. Unreal!
Stix said Bum “suffers under a bad contract,” and I questioned his use of the word “suffers.” He called me a nit-picker. He was friendly about how he said it. 🙂
On the MLB Network, Reynolds thinks the Giants should still be sellers. Pedro Martinez says sellers unless Cueto is expected back this season.
I’ve read more on where Giants would actually be doing Bum a favor to trade him. Why a favor?
The team renting him in the trade (say the Braves) CANNOT, by rule, make him a qualifying offer after the season is over. So, getting traded now makes him into an unrestricted FA after the season. That means he’d be more attractive to a new team picking him up on a LT deal, since that team would NOT have to give a high pick to the Braves as compensation, and competition would drive up his price for the Braves if they wanted to keep him. So, getting traded means he wouldn’t have the possible fate of Kimbrel and Keuchel this past season who rejected qualifying offers, then were forced to wait until after the draft to get signed because post-draft signings of guys like that removes the requirement on the new, signing team to give up a draft pick to the team that made the qualifying offer.
Now, if Bum is not traded in the next 10 days, he stays with the Giants the rest of the season. After SF wins the Series again (ha ha) they give him a qualifying offer (and not sign him to a LT extension), in which he’d probably get around $18 million for 2020 — if he took that offer. Then, by rule, in 2021 he’d be an unrestricted FA, all to his advantage as long as after the 2020 season he’s healthy and still pitching well. Instead, If he REJECTED the SF qualifying offer in hopes of signing a LT deal in the 2019-2020 offseason with somebody else, his rejection of the Giants QO carries the taint of requiring the new team signing him to a LT deal to give SF a high compensatory pick under some complex formula. So, not being traded and then rejecting the Giants QO means he could end up like Kimbrel and Keuchel, and not get signed until sometime after the draft in June 2020, losing half a season of compensation, and possibly limiting the number of teams thinking about signing him…
Being 16 games back of LA is irrelevant. The Nats, top WC team, would be 13 back if they were in NL west. LA will run away with things, until they get to playoffs where we all know Roberts eventually figures out a way to lose. All you have to do is get in. And it isn’t like Bochy hasn’t done this before.
I’m with Loo on Bum. Guys that are smart can figure out how to get hitters out with little less stuff; Opie is till doing it and he doesn’t throw any harder than Bum either. Hitters of today I think are lot less smart than of old, when base hits and how few times you K’d matter. Plus no ? the park helps him.
Other side is he is such tremendous role model for younger guys coming up like Anderson and Beede. His work ethic and how he carries himself show these guys how to be a ML pitcher, up close and personal.
No one suffers making $12,000,000 a year. Just imagine getting paid $231,000 a WEEK. Bummie grew up in a fricking log cabin his dad built, ffs. He might as well be Abraham Lincoln. I don’t think he’s gonna hold out for the huge payday.
3/$75 could work. More than double his salary? Sure. Do it and don’t look back.