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That’ll Do, Young Z, That’ll Do

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 1, 2019

Too much happened yesterday to go over every deal but the Giants are universally getting “winner” votes on twitter—as opposed to the Yankees and Dodgers who are consistently getting “loser” votes. That’s a shame.

Scooter Gennett is the one to watch this year. If he’s over his groin injury then it’s exciting to see what his .874/.827 OPS of the last 2 years might bring to this team. I’m not holding my breath since he is really scuffling in 2019 and Oracle Park is unlikely to help his lefty bat production. But I think we are all ready to watch someone new out there. Panik has just been here too long……

Regardless, Young Z was wheeling and dealing like a madman yesterday. I still don’t understand how he got Atlanta to take the rest of Melatonin’s deal and getting anything for Pom and Black is astounding. When you look at what he gave up for The Dick and Pillar it has become clear that he gives up absolutely nothing for these guys. I’m exciting to see how his drafts unfold……


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  1. James said, on August 1, 2019 at 7:32 am

    Zaidi threaded the needle beautifully. Beyond the promise of the players he pulled in, he did as well as he could to insulate himself from criticisms that his moves subverted the team, should they fall short of the playoffs, which is of course still the likely outcome. No destruction of the “clubhouse chemistry” and any blown saves in the 9th will be on Smith. The cries of “if only he hadn’t weakened the middle relief, it was key to success” just won’t resonate quite as loudly.

  2. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 7:39 am

    Here’s a video of Kokonuts’ daughter Adrianna. Gorgeous girl. PK says she is a Giants fan, too.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:00 am

      That’s awesome, Paulie! Smart and beautiful girl. The guy saying he has to learn the culture of Rochester compared to Syracuse is pretty funny. Like they are different worlds. They are an hour apart on the turnpike.

  3. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 7:42 am

    Gennett has had a loss year due to battling a groin issue going back to ST, just recently playing and trying to round into shape.He certainly is intriguing with his power numbers(yeah I know he played in a bandbox) 50 bombs,and averaging over 90 RBi’s 2017-2018 those numbers you can’t totally ingnore.And even if just rakes a shitload of doubles, more likely at the O, it’s worth the rental for a few months if he helps carry us some.I would settle for him being “Scootaro Genett”, that Scoots worked out just fine at 2B..

  4. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 7:45 am

    Jerry Garcia would have been 77 today. I guess there was no way he was ever gonna hit 77….

    • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:02 am

      If Keith Richards can reach 75 . . . He’s done more drugs than the state of Rhode Island.

      • Irish Kevin said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:27 am

        Mick just turned 76 last month

  5. willedav said, on August 1, 2019 at 7:55 am

    the money saved on M’s deal is lot less important than influx of talent. It also gives Z a chance to see what his pen looks like with some younger guys thrust into different roles. Smith and or Watson are probably not around next season so see who can do what. Really surprised more top teams didn’t help their pitching: LA NY BOS STL MIL. Not sure Twins did enough either. Z looking pretty good so far.
    A’s picked up Roark, big whoop. Is this a guy they will use in Division playoff games should they get there?
    Roark’s name is stuck in my head re: Giants playoff series with Nats but I can’t recall without looking it up how he was involved.

    • gianthead said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:45 am

      He definitely pitched in that series

  6. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 7:59 am

    And Big Country Madison Bumgarner turns 30 today!🐴🐂🐄🐇🐖🐏🎉🏕⛰

  7. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:06 am

    The money saved is important in that there’s one less deal bloated deal to worry about.

    And we aren’t on the hook for a penny of it. That’s HUGE.

    Looking at all the dealing going on, you really gotta wonder WTF the Yanks and Dodgers were thinking. something like 20 relievers were moved and the Dogs didn’t get any of them? It’ll be so funny to see thm fail in the playoffs yet again.

    Where was Zumie getting those Dodger quotes? I’m sure their fan base isn’t very happy.

    • willedav said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:16 am

      yes on LA. My Dodger fan gal friend will be up here next week to visit store maybe dinner. I usually back off hassling her when she talks about them but how many games they win in reg season is so irrelevant. Until Roberts wins the big one it’s not gonna matter and pen seems to be their Achilles heel.
      Maybe they are gunshy feeling the pushback for trading away Yordan Alvarez to Stros for Josh Fields.

  8. willedav said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:11 am

    Belt’s HR in 18th was off Roark in playoff game 2014. Strick got the save that night

  9. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:12 am

    Broken Dick….

  10. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:23 am

    Not surprising with Dick, like the saying goes “You can’t help the Club from the Tub”
    They have to add an extra outfielder right now!
    Duggar’s the obvious choice, wonder if Z really wants to take a look at Jaylin
    Davis though🤔
    I’m stoked to see Sam Selman pitch,Zman is quite high on his abilities..

  11. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:25 am

    And what a grand day it was…..

    • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:33 am

      And don’t they look happy!

    • zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:44 am

      One of the photos from this session became the cover for the “Hey Jude” album, which wasn’t a regular album, but a collection of singles, A sides and B sides. The B sides were great tracks, too. Only two songs had previously appeared on an album: “Can’t Buy Me Love” and “I Should Have Known Better” from the Hard Day’s Night soundtrack.
      This photo session is only about 5 1/2 years after the Beatles came to the U.S. to perform on the Ed Sullivan show. It’s incredible the amount of great recordings they accomplished in a relatively short time, and all the change in the culture symbolized by the length of their hair in this photo session.

    • djloo27 said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:01 am

      Lennon looks like he just stepped out of a horse & buggy in Lancaster, PA…

  12. gianthead said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:27 am

    Last week when looking at the Reds and the potential bats they have and Puig, I saw Scooter being a trade name mentioned and I almost asked the Flap for thoughts on him. But he has had such a difficult year Ibthought I would get hammered on the suggestion. I also had smelled out the Duhon potential and thought that would happen. I was hoping they would just put Duhon on the big league roster and saw he already had a start in Sacto last night…how did that happen that quickly???

    Duhon Inprojected is the 2b for next year but maybe he can still be competent at short. I have not even looked to see if Scooter is a free agent or under contract for next year???

    • gianthead said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:31 am

      Yep Scooter will be a frame agent. So light has to be under Panik’s ass but they ain’t keeping him and Solano and Solano has proven his worth for now…

      • alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:48 am

        Scooter making 9 mil,so it seems likely he’s just a rental.Giants did however save 18 mil on the “Melanoma Swindle” as Braves picked up the whole freakin tab!!!!!

    • wilcojoe said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:33 am

      The Brewers AAA club was playing the Giants AAA club so he just had to switch dugouts. I heard in his first AB against his old team he was hit on the arm and faked like he was going to charge the mound. I guess everyone had a good laugh about it. Waiting for video if any is out there.

      • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:35 am

        Too funny! He’s got a sense of humor anyway.

      • gianthead said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:50 am


    • Macdog said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:37 am

      The RiverCats just happened to be playing in San Antonio vs. the Brewers’ Triple-A team last night.

      • alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:41 am

        And Dubon got drilled by his former teammates in his 1st AB! No hard feelings kid!!

  13. mrsprtdude said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:32 am

    Losing 6/7 inning guys will sting at some point. Key for me is the young guy we got from the twins. good power numbers, lots of talent. The money we saved with melancon important in that it gets a badly overpaid guy off the team , so next year there will be money for a midseason deal if needed..

  14. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:42 am

    If they can get rid of one bad deal every 6 months I’ll be happy.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:53 am

      I mean, how long did Rowand hang around?

      The flip side of that is, Zito should have been jettisoned before his epic run in 2012 . . . . so Sabes gets a bit of a break for not dumping that horrendous deal.

      If you looked at the transaction wire, yesterday equals like the last 5 years of Sabevans.

  15. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:49 am

    getting rid of bad deals IS a big deal. It doesn’t matter how much $$$ the Giants ownership group has, they run the team a certain way, they don’t go over budget, and they simply don’t just cast off salary until the last possible minute. If we want them to be more active in free agency, and of course we do, then ditching the “Melanoma” deals is a great way to make that happen.

  16. willedav said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:00 am

    I still say $$$ isn’t the Giants problem, talent is. Contracts aren’t holding them back, it’s not having enough good players. Red sox last year paid Sandoval and Hanley to not play for them and won the WS. They also owe Price like $30 mil a year. Who cares? they got the rings and Roberts is still looking.
    I also don’t begrudge the player for his deal nor hold him more accountable in given situation because of it. Guy on 2b less than 2 outs, your job is to move him over to 3b or drive him in whether you are making Yaz money or Posey money. Same with pitching–Gott doesn’t get a pass for a bad outing because he makes less money than others.
    How much Giants choose to spend to improve pitching OF and IF is their business but they have plenty enough of it to go around and seats should be pretty full rest of season.

    • Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:04 am

      well if you say $$$ isn’t a problem for them then you’re ignoring how they’ve done business for the last 20 years. They’ll sign guys to big deals, that isn’t the problem. But those guys play whether they stink or not. They clog up the line up when other teams like the Red Sox just get rid of them. If we operated that way it’d be great, but we don’t. Get rid of some of these deals and we’ll see them more active in free agency.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:09 am

      Bingo, Flav. Being slammed against the salary cap with an ownership group reluctant to breach it got us to the last 2+ years of suckage. 3rd highest payroll and 188 losses is no way to run the team. With these deals being sloughed off, we have a lot more wiggle room for mid-level free agent signings.

      Boston’s model is different than ours in that they don[‘t care to pay the lux tax fines. The Giants ownership mob has balked at going over it.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:18 am

      The ony thing that got Sabean his glory was the drafts from 2006-2009 that netted them Timmy, Madbum, Posey, Belt, and Crawford. 5 all-stars in 4 drafts is off the charts. Cain, Pablo and Romo were earlier, and Panik came later, but the meat of those championship teams came from those 4 drafts.

      And they nailed it with the misfits. Ross, Huff, Burrell, Scoots, The Riot, Mota, Casilla. on and on. But the well ran dry quickly and then they started throwing money around like drunken sailors at Fisherman’s wharf.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:23 am

      So, let’s say there’s a married couple and they have a couple of kids. One of the spouses is irresponsible (drinks, gambles and is a philander spending money on whores). Coupled with that, one of the kids is stealing money from his parents and buying drugs . . . Umm, besides all the dysfunctional shit going on in the household, they are constantly having to forgo buying necessities for the household and barely keeping up with the bills.

      Same situation with the Giants. There isn’t just one owner, but many owners. All of these owners are responsible to each other (i.e., shareholders). Look at these owners as the “parents” and the front office, players, and other support personnel as the “children.” In short, each person in the Giants organization plays a part in being efficient with the budget, responsible to each other, and not acting in a dysfunctional way, e.g., Baer.

      Again, tell me the money doesn’t matter Willie?

  17. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:00 am

    Still a bad memory from the past,and recently activated again Adam Duvall 11-22 since callup 4 HR’s! How’s are other nightmare Brian Reynolds still doing Zumie?

    • Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:05 am

      Duvall is terrible and has been wallowing in the minors all season until they needed a body and he got called up. He’ll sink back down to his replacement level of play soon enough.

  18. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:10 am

    1. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    2. Mike Yastrzemski (L) LF
    3. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
    4. Stephen Vogt (L) C
    5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    6. Kevin Pillar (R) CF
    7. Joe Panik (L) 2B
    8. Austin Slater (R) RF
    9. Dereck Rodriguez (R) P

  19. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:14 am

  20. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:29 am

    I think I have a crush on Tulsi Gabbard….

    • alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:39 am

      I was thinking the same thing P/A!
      She’s smoking hot and that little twirl of gray hair is a turn on as well!

      • gianthead said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:42 am

        Make up is covering up a lot of face blemishes..

  21. willedav said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:45 am

    OK the Giants choose (key word) to do this consciously, like other owners who have established this nonsensical lux tax salary cap BS. The have the $$$, they draw a line in sand and say they’re not crossing it. Total BS.
    Here’s what I mean: I don’t care how much $$$ Smrdz is making the issue is can Giants find another SP of equal or better quality to put up numbers like what he has 3.75 ERA making 20-30 starts over x amount of innings. Beede ain’t making shit neither is Anderson but their ERAs both over 5.00. Smrdz shut out Phils over 6 innings on a day Giants hit 3 bombs. Beede got raked day before and put team behind 4-0. DRod, who hasn’t been very good, goes today. Do you want to save money or do you want better pitching?

    Giants salary structure is very odd but there are a lot of bargains. Yes few high priced players but now half the team isn’t making squat.
    Solano Austin Green Slater Yaz Dick Vogt among position players.
    Gott Anderson Moronta Beede Coonrod Selman DRod (today only maybe)—over half the team and even Pillar and Panik don’t come to $10 mil btw them.

    • willedav said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:49 am

      And the issue will come up again with Bum (and to lesser degree Smith)—you don’t want to pay to extend him? Fine how do you plan to replace the level of quality over course of an entire season?

    • gianthead said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:45 am

      They have got to rebuild not rebuy in rota and let the youth rise as the Posey/Crawford/Belt deals become extinct or close to extinction…we likely will pay Bum and may have money for two free agents and I’d rather spend on hitting and fill in with mid-tier pitching and see how 2021 looks for adding 1-2 arms…

  22. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:49 am

    For me its the number of deals that’s impressive. I could see the previous regime adding Gennet but at that point they’d be high-fiving as they called it a day and broke out the bourbon and cigars. No way Booby finds a way to dump Melancon and make the other moves to stock the system.

  23. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:51 am

    So who gets DFA-Panik or Austin?

  24. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:57 am

    From a FA perspective not being traded is the worst outcome for Bumgarner? Isn’t it? I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that he’s given the club the parameters of a deal he’d agree to allowing them to slap Smith with the qualifying offer this off season.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:05 am

      Agree that Bum and Giants might have discussed what happens next, and not a bad strategy to hit Smith with the QO. Bum clearly stated he did not want to be traded, so that’s the outcome he wanted. Will be interesting to see what they do with him. Z did practically nothing over the off season, but this next one will likely be very different.

  25. willedav said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:07 am

    Is Gennett in the dugout? Reds were at home yesterday…

    • alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:11 am

      Heard something he’s not showing up until Friday..

  26. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:09 am

    Let’s get it on and take another series!
    Place is a ghost town, so much for Bryce Harper influence..

  27. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:14 am

    Speaking of Tulsi Gabbard (of Samoan descent), anyone here watch the sci-fi show The Expanse? I’ve just caught up binging the first 3 seasons as they prepare the 4th one. I like it. And the Bobbi Draper character played by Samoan Frankie Adams is also stunning. Finding myself in a Samoan state of mind these days. The Expanse also has Thomas Jane in a great role for him (he played The Mick in 61*…)…

  28. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:19 am

    Bummie wants to stay. This is what he knows and likes so they should offer him a solid 3 year deal. 3/$80 mill. Something like that. If a bidding war happens then you deal with that when it happens.

    • wilcojoe said, on August 1, 2019 at 10:28 am

      I kind of like this approach. Keep him under club control for 3 more years and if the Giants aren’t competitive this time next year, you could still flip him for far greater level of prospects than what they would have been offered this week.

  29. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:02 am

    Damn. At least it’s early, but we are about to get routed here.

  30. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:12 am

    Paul, The Expanse is a series I want to get to. I’ve heard lots of good things about it.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:16 am

      It’s a little confusing at first, figuring out who’s who among the 3 “countries” (Earth, Mars, and the Belters) but very good characters. Especially the Samoan. 🙂 SyFy channel cancelled it but Amazon picked it up. It’s entertaining.

  31. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:14 am

    D-Rod may be on the Sac-town express after this game. He didn’t look competitive today.

  32. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:21 am

    Just because it’s Madison’s Birthday today I present you all with the overwhelming excitement of a hillbilly in his hometown of Lenoir North Carolina..scheduled events for this weekend…
    1) Soundbite Food&Music Festival ( I’m assuming blue grass with some powerful fiddling)
    2)Harambee Arts Festival
    3)Zap Endurance Marathon
    4)Sycamore Bones( can’t even imagine)
    5)Liquid Pools Rowing Project
    6) Milking Cow contest at the fairgrounds
    7)Gameall Ruitian Club Breakfast

  33. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:24 am

    A sound question that never got answered: how was DRod so good last year but absolutely awful this year? No middle ground with this guy?

  34. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:28 am

    Shit why didn’t they bring up Connor Mendez for this start!” Rodriguez is just HORRIBLE!!

  35. gianthead said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:37 am

    See we trade Melancon and this happens!!!🤐😓😤

  36. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:43 am

    I just don’t get it, you put Dick on the IL which puts you down a player,( how many times have they done that in the past)you don’t bring up an outfielder and now Pillar almost has his head decapitated but stays in out of necessity, bad planning there..

    • Stan Shell said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:53 am

      Maybe there is a disconnect between the people who put Dick on the IR and Zman who, I presume, selects who comes up.

  37. Macdog said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:50 am

    Didn’t get to Philly this week for the Giants’ annual visit as I usually do (and thank god I didn’t go today). However, I’m going to see the Stones tonight at MetLife Stadium. First time seeing Mick and the boys, not sure why I haven’t seen them before but better late than never. Concert was originally scheduled for June, but as most of you know Jagger had heart surgery and the dates were pushed back. Curious to see what they play beyond the obvious hits. I was thinking of wearing a Beatles shirt just to see if it starts a fight, kind of like wearing Giants gear to Dodger Stadium.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 12:16 pm

      If people still think there’s a rivalry between the Beatles and the Stones, well, then we’ve entered some sort of time warp. Saw them a couple times, and they weren’t very good. the day on the green in 78 (I think) was added by Bill Graham at the end of the Some Girls tour and they sounded like they were dead tired. I mean it was OK and all, but they made the crowd wait 3 hours after Santana played. There was some random youtube footage from that show when the Stones dumped like 10,000 ping pong balls, and a few inflatable sex dolls onto the crowd from a helicopter. There was some kind of promotion if you got the right kind of ping pong ball but I have no recollection what it was.

      Certainly a cool entrance but the band sounded old and tired.

      41 years ago!

      • Macdog said, on August 1, 2019 at 12:26 pm

        I was kinda joking about the rivalry thing. This tour is pretty short, 17 shows I think, no doubt a concession to the age factor. Hey, they probably take a lot better care of themselves now than the late 70s.

  38. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 11:59 am

    Yaz’s baserunning again. He continues to make mistakes on that. I don’t get it. Dude has been playing ball almost his whole life. The ‘rookie excuse’ doesn’t fly.

  39. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 12:17 pm

    Bailed out for an 11:00 meeting. I see it got worse.

  40. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    Craw, Belt, Posey, and Longo when he comes back have to be more than holograms at this stage in their careers. They are the tired crew sucking life out of this team. Solano, Sandoval, Vogt, and the outfield are bringing competitive fire as much as their talent level can.
    I gotta believe Zaidi is fed up with the old core of this team. I expect moves in the off-season.

  41. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 12:31 pm

    Gustavo shows some promise. High 90s fastball. Pretty good off-speed pitch. His control was good.

    • zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 12:48 pm

      Gustave, I mean.

  42. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    Since we got rid of one bad deal already, I’d like to see two dead weights gone this offseason. Crawfish is next.

  43. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 12:42 pm

    If you have 10 mins to kill. I’m the guy in the white t0-shirt and blue jeans.

  44. blade3colorado said, on August 1, 2019 at 1:33 pm

    I’m still amazed at what Z did. Meanwhile, the brain dead Friedman failed miserably to add an elite reliever to his beleaguered bullpen. Instead, he added Gyorko to an infield that already has David Freese, Chris Taylor and Enrique Hernandez.

    Does anyone know the common denominator of all these infielders listed above, including the new guy, Gyorko???? Two answers and one of them is not “they are all presently healthy, readily available and not injured.”

    • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 1:39 pm

      Yeah, that’s crazy. 20 relievers must have moved yesterday. And the Dogs did nothing.

    • zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 2:16 pm

      Those two guys that close it out, Baez and Janssen, have their share of rocky moments.

  45. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 2:17 pm

    That was the first series the Giants lost in over a month.

  46. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 2:20 pm

    Didn’t Dusty go a whole year without losing a series? 2002?

  47. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    The idiotic reasoning of teams like LA,Yanks,Boston,StLouis to not want to give up prospects is what costs them a World Series ring.You have to strike while the irons hot if you feel your 1-2 pieces of the puzzle to finish.When Jansen blows up in a playoff game their gonna wish they made a move.The winner is a team like the Astros who swoop in with minutes to go and land Grienke, now giving them 3 aces with 3 of the top 5 WHIP leaders in baseball ⚾️, they weren’t thinking of protecting their farm system,they pushed all their chips in now to win it all..

  48. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 1, 2019 at 3:33 pm

    D-Rod and Suarez didn’t look too good today. Current starting rotation is MadBum Smarge Anderson and Beede, I think… who else? Cueto can’t come back quickly enough, and he’s no sure thing. If this team doesn’t make the post-season, it may very well be because of the rotation. Any of those arms they picked up yesterday a decent starter? I wouldn’t be surprised to see an announcement of MadBum inked to a deal before end of season, avoiding free agency altogether. It’s never been about the money for him, he’s no Grienke in that regard….

  49. blade3colorado said, on August 1, 2019 at 3:59 pm

    Both Pillar and Craw (who again, looked shitty in the field) are probably going to the IL.

  50. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    Pillar should go on the DL only cause of complete exhaustion since the Giants only carry 3 outfielders( totally insane) Tyler Austin what does he do again? 13 pitchers, adding Scoops tomorrow, sure D-Rod is shipped back out,but that doesn’t take care of the problem in their outfield especially going into Denver’s mammoth outfield.Get the new kid Jaylin Davis with his fresh legs out there to roam centerfield.Who ever said Pillar has to be a Ironman out there that ended badly for Hunter Pence?

  51. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2019 at 5:22 pm

    Once again, Puig making friends. I love how he runs up to the catcher and waits for his teammates to hold him back.

  52. snarkk said, on August 1, 2019 at 5:48 pm

    Rodriguez, Soph slump?
    Giants reverting to inconsistent hitting. Bring up the new Davis kid from Minnie, stat…

  53. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 6:15 pm

    Another Duvall bomb for you Duvey-heads

    • djloo27 said, on August 1, 2019 at 6:49 pm

      Somewhere Bass Baldy celebrates…

      • Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:12 pm

        I did not like that dude.

  54. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2019 at 7:14 pm

    MIAMI — Sam Dyson’s Twins’ debut did not go as planned.

    After issuing just seven walks in 51 innings with the Giants, Dyson walked the first batter he faced in a Twins uniform. Given a 4-1 lead in the ninth, Dyson allowed a single, run-scoring double and another walk before manager Rocco Baldelli came out of the dugout to get him before the Twins’ newest reliever had even recorded an out.

    “Hopefully, there’s no more of those,” Dyson said.

    Dyson, who hadn’t pitched since Sunday, arrived during the game from Philadelphia, where he was with the Giants before being acquired Wednesday for three minor leaguers. The deal was struck just minutes before the 3 p.m. CT trade deadline.

    Two inherited runs scored after he left to push the game into extra innings, where the Twins lost on Harold Ramirez’s walk-off home run off rookie Cody Stashak. Baldelli said afterward he will continue to throw Dyson in high-leverage situations. That’s why the Twins acquired him.

    Dyson learned he had been traded after playing catch on the field Wednesday and flew to Miami in the morning. The Giants had been playing better lately and decided to hold on to starter Madison Bumgarner and reliever Will Smith, which made the trade more surprising for Dyson.

    “I thought if ‘Bum’ got traded, then there would be some pieces that were going to get traded, but he didn’t get traded,” he said. “But they still got rid of a few bullpen guys.”

    He joins the Twins in the middle of a tight division race with a chance to contribute to the playoff push — despite Thursday’s shaky outing.

    “Obviously, they’re in first place for a reason,” he said. “They’ve got a lot of pieces here that have done well all year. Got a hell of an offense. You don’t want to screw the momentum up. You want to help out and do your part and look forward to tomorrow.”

  55. willedav said, on August 1, 2019 at 7:44 pm

    I think blade called D Rod demise long time ago, before season even started. iirc there were reports from the projections sites like Steamer that thought he wildly out pitched his peripherals last year and predicted lot of regression. Maybe the Twins weren’t so dumb after all. Only saw first inning when Yaz took one right in front of LF wall but he just seems to be throwing meatballs up there and walking more guys.

    Speaking of dumb, for the second time in 3 days the A’s beat the Brewers on walk off bomb vs. Hader who now has 5 Ls. Mgr. was trying to use him for third day in a row…and these guys thought Pom and Black was all they needed?

  56. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    The Giants acquired Dyson for shit, the fact they flipped him for at least a decent outfield prospect is a win as far as I’m concerned. I doubt those 2 pitchers they got will do anything but you never know.

  57. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:11 pm

    DRod had a 2.81 ERA in 19 starts last year. That shit doesn’t happen by accident. He may have been a little lucky but he was also doing a lot of things right to check in with a 2.81 ERA with that many innings. He completely fell off the wagon. There weren’t any peripherals that predicted being completely worthless this year.

  58. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:44 pm

    He’s a bit teed about the yo-yo approach the Giants are doing with players with options going back&forth to Sac.A cure for that is to pitch better if you want to stick around.Guess he hasn’t gotten the memo, cause that start today won’t get him back anytime soon…

  59. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:48 pm

    Next Starting pitcher up for me Conner Mendez.What are they waiting for?

  60. Flavor said, on August 1, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    Had lunch with my dad today in Black Butte. He couldn’t have been any happier that we kept Bum. Kept saying “it would have been a crime to trade him, he’s an institution, etc…”
    I didn’t give him my full take on that subject, he wouldn’t have been able to handle it. I did tell him I disagreed. It was a good thing for me to see play out right in front of me tho

  61. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:05 pm

    It’s been growing on me that Bochy gets to go out with some dignity in his final season.
    Bochy was on the MLB Network this morning getting interviewed about the great July the team had. That’s nice recognition for Bochy in his final season. As they’re interviewing him, they have graphics on the screen about the three championships.

  62. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:12 pm

    D-Rod didn’t pitch well today, but Craw and Belt each botched plays that cost a total of about five runs. Belt lost a pop-up in the sun, and wasn’t wearing sunglasses.

  63. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:25 pm

    Pillar’s last day off June 11.Has to keep playing since they only have 3 outfielders, what is their reasoning to run him and the rest into the ground??

  64. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:25 pm

    The Dodgers bring a catcher up from AAA and he hits like Babe Ruth of course. I don’t ever remember seeing a team have so many ridiculous things like this happen in one season.

    • Flavor said, on August 2, 2019 at 6:54 am

      well, Will Smith is hardly just some “catcher from AAA” he’s a huge prospect who will be their catcher for many, many years.

  65. zumiee said, on August 1, 2019 at 9:28 pm

    “Dodgers scrape a dead frog off the road, and the frog hits 2 HRs that night.”

  66. willedav said, on August 2, 2019 at 7:23 am

    I think Kat has good point with Dick on shelf they are short an OF. Why not bring Shaw up? I’d also like to see if Yaz can handle CF to give Pillar a day off. He took pretty good whack off CF fence yesterday.
    Giants did have days off last Thursday (after Cubs left) and Monday before trip started but none til week from Monday.
    so far this year 9-4 vs. Rox. What the hell happened to them? They re upped Arenado after strong finish last year and now they are dead last and 9 games under .500.

  67. willedav said, on August 2, 2019 at 7:26 am

    I’d rather see Shaw than Austin. Btw long column on F/G rates all recent trades for each team. Dubon seems like ready to go player and they aren’t down on McCarthy (who does hit LH) either. The other 3 young guys aren’t rated any lower than Black, Davis slightly lower.

  68. alleykat69 said, on August 3, 2019 at 5:21 pm

    Great piece of hitting by Panda,and yes it’s nice to have some speed with Yaz!!

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