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Losing End Of A Fun Game

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 22, 2019

Can’t hate on last night’s game, slugfests can be coin flips and frankly it was just nice to see us be able to compete with those Cubs bats and not embarrass ourselves. And we came back against a damn good pitcher in Darvish. Watching Dutch Oven Fire toast himself was enjoyable as well.

Sure, it’s over but it’s always been over. The wild card race allows fans to keep believing longer than they should and there’s really nothing wrong with that. The good news is that we are going to get to see a lot of young players in September. Again, nothing wrong with that.

Let the torch be passed swiftly yet respectfully…..

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  1. willedav said, on August 22, 2019 at 7:43 am

    Didn’t realize til I saw box score but that was Moronta’s 7th L. Only guys with more are Pom (who sucks) and Smrdz with 9, Bum with 8. He just seems lot wilder and less effective than last year. ?

    Loo thx. I had to look up Ron Reed on wiki. Funny thing, last baseball team he played for was White Sox. When he started NBA he played for Pistons, coached by DeBusschere….who had also played baseball earlier, for White Sox. Those old box scores are just fascinating.

  2. willedav said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:23 am

    Verlander and Astros blocked credentialed reporter from Detroit Free Press from being in the clubhouse during his postgame media presser. Saw a pic with 3 Stros guys in front of locked doors. V told everyone he wouldn’t talk to them if the Free Press guy was there so they blocked him until after V had left the press conference.
    Later V refused to answer any of reporter’s questions.
    this is in violation of few things including Collective Bargaining agreement. Free Press will go after them so expect some blowback.
    wonder what back story there is btw V and either the individual or the paper in general.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:38 am

      Sgt Schultz: “ I see nothing,I say nothing, I hear NOTHING!!!”

    • wilcojoe said, on August 22, 2019 at 9:25 am

      A guy I follow on Twitter, Evan Drellich, now writes for the Athlletic, used to be the Astros beat writer during the 100 loss seasons. While with the Astros he wrote some very critical, but accurate pieces about ownership and the front office. Crane and Luhnow, while they built a model that is the envy of baseball, certainly have turned some people off in the process. It’s all about the numbers for these guys, as evidenced by the numerous times in which they elect arbitration when they’re only a couple hundred thousand away from the players demand. Yet they win and create precedent in their favor.

      Drellich was pointing out the Astros overly analytical ways, long before they won their WS in 2017. At the time it seemed almost cruel and unusual but today it’s the norm. Drellich this morning mentioned that the Astros once tried to have him fired during a meeting between the club and the Managing Editors of the Houston Chronicle. The paper sided with Drellich (thankfully).

  3. Flavor said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:55 am

    It’s really incredible that the Astros were the biggest favorites of all time twice this season and they lost both games. Nobody is talking about that. But -570 and -500 (close estimates I don’t recall the exact lines) are so dominant, it’s just shocking they could lose both of them.

    • Macdog said, on August 22, 2019 at 9:05 am

      Last night’s game was pretty weird. Only four players — two for each team — had hits. Tigers had 2 hits — both HRs. Verlander threw a complete game — and lost. That never happens anymore.

  4. snarkk said, on August 22, 2019 at 9:12 am

    With that much money to be won on a bet against the Astros, funny things might happen?…

  5. wilcojoe said, on August 22, 2019 at 9:31 am

    I was shocked to see the line on the Stros game last night considering that Correa, Brantley and Reddick were all out of the lineup, coupled with the fact that they are in the middle of a 17 game stretch with no off days.

  6. Flavor said, on August 22, 2019 at 9:47 am

    Bart last night. Eight strikeouts. That might be a record, right?
    Joey Bart’s day deserves mentioning, even if he was far from the star at the plate. The No. 1 prospect, given the tough task of catching both ends of a doubleheader, finished 1-for-9 with eight strikeouts and a walk. It’s been a struggle for the second-overall pick last year since his early-August promotion, batting .186 with two homers in 12 Double-A games.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 22, 2019 at 10:27 am

      Still hoping him and Ramos eventually figure it out. However, the reality is that #1 baseball picks (unlike basketball and football picks) are a crap shoot.

      • alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 10:47 am

        Crapshoots Blade? Look at the bust in football ..JaMarcusRussell,Ryan Leaf,Johnny Manziel and many other top picks swing and misses happen in every sport..

      • unca_chuck said, on August 22, 2019 at 10:50 am

        Baseball success rate in the draft has to be in the low teens. And that’s in the first 5 rounds. Football has a much higher success rate.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 22, 2019 at 11:02 am

        Again AK, I think football and basketball are more of a sure thing by far versus baseball. I mean come on, we all knew Al Davis was practically senile when he selected Russell and Manziel was already a drunk in college, coupled with the idiots picking for Cleveland, what did you expect? Even Ryan Leaf had reported personal issues that the Colts knew about, where they ultimately selected Manning.

      • unca_chuck said, on August 22, 2019 at 11:09 am

        Looking back 11 drafts and you see that all of the NFL #1 picks are still in the league and starting.

        In the baseball list maybe 3 are household names, 5 are in the bigs, 2 of those guys are not even playing anymore, and 4 are trying to make the show.

        mlb nfl draft

      • blade3colorado said, on August 22, 2019 at 11:13 am

        Good stuff (chart) Unca

  7. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 22, 2019 at 10:48 am

    Bochy has always excelled at is slotting the bullpen as the season goes on and putting those arms in a position to succeed. Typically it is an ongoing season long process but I didn’t expect subtracting Dyson to have a significant impact. He’s basically been reshuffling everything since the trade deadline and some of those arms look tired.

    • Flavor said, on August 22, 2019 at 11:15 am

      Gustave was lights out, he’d thrown 14 pitches–12 for strikes. Did Boch even consider leaving him in for another inning? This is why I question his bullpen management. Everyone says he’s a genius but did it even occur to him to leave the guy who was lights out in to pitch the 8th?

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 22, 2019 at 11:23 am

        Seems like Bochy always does that. A guy gets an inning and isn’t stretched regardless of the outcome. I guess it let Gustave ends up with a positive outcome for the future or whatever.

    • chipower9 said, on August 22, 2019 at 12:36 pm

      It is more than a subtraction of Dyson. It was Holland and Melancon, too. Those are three guys who were playing contributing to our team having a very solid bullpen. I said right after all the trades were done that while I was happy with the deals and the players the Giants got, the big question was whether or not the bullpen could maintain its consistency. I think that question has emphatically been answered with a big no. But hey, I applaud Z for making the trades and trying to get the Giants over the hump for a stretch run.

      As I said last night, our bullpen is a hot mess, and the back-end of the rotation has some huge challenges. No way in hell you compete with the likes of the cubbies, Nats, and other teams we are chasing with those issues.

  8. djloo27 said, on August 22, 2019 at 10:50 am

    1. Mike Yastrzemski (L) RF
    2. Buster Posey (R) C
    3. Alex Dickerson (L) LF
    4. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
    5. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    6. Kevin Pillar (R) CF
    7. Scooter Gennett (L) 2B
    8. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    9. Jeff Samardzija (R) P

    • blade3colorado said, on August 22, 2019 at 11:30 am

      Loo, just so you know – I appreciated the ages beside the LU names (even if no one else did). Thank you

    • alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 12:11 pm

      Yes I enjoyed seeing the geriatric LU chart as well Loo! I think I even mentioned how old this team was and you started posting the ages,classic!

  9. Flavor said, on August 22, 2019 at 11:17 am

    So….fucking use him

  10. pawliekokonuts said, on August 22, 2019 at 12:10 pm

    I hope Pence visits the Phallus Museum in Reykjavik. The Photoshop possibilities are endless.

  11. alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    Not a good moment for Pillar there,yikes on a can of corn even with the sun..

  12. alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    And now a can of corn boot for Crawfish 🦞
    2 on nobody out, and it should be 2 outs..

  13. blade3colorado said, on August 22, 2019 at 12:52 pm

    Eye chart is having a great day, pitching and hitting. Quite impressed.

  14. pawliekokonuts said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    My Mets fan friend revealed to me that he came up with EyeChart. I knew I couldn’t be that original.

  15. unca_chuck said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:29 pm

    damn! get out!

  16. alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:35 pm

    Figures Crawford crushed that ball, last night 20 rows deep, today barely to the bottom of the wall for a triple with 2 outs! Odds of scoring now to tie it at 1?
    Hell No! As Slater strikes out looking.

  17. blade3colorado said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:38 pm

    Which Watson will show up???

  18. unca_chuck said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:42 pm

    Score 11, lose. Score 0, well, lose.

  19. alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:46 pm

    And that freakin starter Hendricks throws almost slower than Barry Zito..

  20. blade3colorado said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:48 pm

    Shocked that Willie Mac holds 2nd place all time for triples.

  21. blade3colorado said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:51 pm

    Pfffttt! Swept. Ugh . . . Giants bats linguine today.

  22. alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:51 pm

    Pfffttt!!!!!!!!!!

  23. Bozo said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    Puked up that series.

  24. unca_chuck said, on August 22, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    Oh well. Back to the doldrums. 2 more weeks of preseason football hold little interest.

    These young pitchers are getting the looks they need, but it isn’t working out for them. They might as well shelf Belt, Posey, and Crawfish for the remainder and bring up Davis, and the kids.

    • chipower9 said, on August 22, 2019 at 2:06 pm

      Ain’t happening before September call-ups, as it would entail moves on the 40. Not the brown-bag 40 that we all probably need about now, but the 40 man roster.

  25. chipower9 said, on August 22, 2019 at 2:05 pm

    Pfffttt X 3. Fucking swept…

    If you had any dreams of this team making the post-season dance, I have some oceanfront property in Nebraska that is for sale, cheap.

    Day off (which will be needed) and then we take on the A’s in their yard. They have been hot, so even a split of the two may be a stretch.

    Not trying to doom here, just being realistic….

  26. alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    Davis should already have been up, why wait till September while we watch him launch more Homers in Sac??

  27. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 22, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    Flav, regarding Gustave usage yesterday. Bochy gave his reasoning to Baggs at the A, for what its worth;

    “Jandel Gustave finished one pitch away from an immaculate inning (three strikeouts on nine pitches), but Bochy dared not send him back out for the eighth. Gustave logged too many pitches the previous night while helping to cover Beede’s short start.

    “We’ve got to take care of this kid,” Bochy said. “He’s coming off Tommy John. And he’s been throwing the ball so well.”

    • snarkk said, on August 22, 2019 at 4:01 pm

      I call BS on the sportstalk notion that Bochy is managing like playoffs. This kid was pitching lights out when everyone else was getting roasted. He had a very light inning. Bochy easily could have had him pitch the 8th. Another 15 pitches is going to blow out his TJ elbow? Baloney. I think Bochy is married to his role-based Pen rotations and loathes deviation. He was probably worried too about bringing the wild Moronta into an already in progress 8th, but didn’t want to say that in the media. Moronta got smoked anyway…

    • Flavor said, on August 22, 2019 at 4:08 pm

      I didn’t realize he pitched the night before, too. Thanks

  28. alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 4:24 pm

    I agree Snarkk how Bochy lately manages this pen. Nowadays what pitcher hasn’t had TJ? He doesn’t mind overworking Will Smith ( 2 games he chucked him out there throwing 72 pitches) but Gustave he pulls with minimal and effective pitching, when no other Giant pitcher was doing jack shit, in that 12-11 loss they could of won if they left him in..

  29. alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 4:29 pm

    And btw I’ve lost all faith in FATBOY pitching, if I’m Z I’m telling him don’t even report for ST next year unless you lose 30-40 pounds!!

  30. snarkk said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    The one thing Gyros absolutely had to avoid at Wrigley, was a sweep, but that’s what they get.
    Time to drop the pipe-dream this is a post-season team, and focus on talent evaluation the rest of the season. The “core” players should be riding pine the rest of the way, let’s see who wants to or has the talent to take over their jobs in March 2020…

  31. snarkk said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:14 pm

    Posey’s season slash line so far:

    .239 .316 .352 .669

    Last 7 games (= atrocious);

    188 .278 .188 .465

    • Macdog said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:29 pm

      And yet he continues to bat anywhere from 2-4 in the batting order, never lower, it’s fucking absurd.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:37 pm

        Baby steps for Bochy . . . It took him months to bat Belt and Craw in the 7 and 8 spots. Bochy is like a heroin addict, but main lining the “core.”

    • snarkk said, on August 22, 2019 at 9:08 pm

      That last 7 games didn’t look right, so I looked again at ESPN stats:
      Last 15 days for Posey:
      .212 .297 .303 .600

      Still sucks…

  32. alleykat69 said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:41 pm

    Yeah Mac that sucks, but unfortunately Boch will never move him out of those spots,with his vet love for him.That should change next year under the new manager…

  33. unca_chuck said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:55 pm

    A’s are about to sweep the Yankers. And neither the Giants or the A’s play on Friday? WTF?

  34. unca_chuck said, on August 22, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    Dear God, I just can’t fathom another season of Posey doing nothing. All fucking year. You have to wonder how much better the team would be if Posey was batting 8th.


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