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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 31, 2019

Nice little win last night. I’m more interested in tonight’s game. We get to, once again, glimpse into our future. Do we turn away from the hideousness of it like when D-Rod or Beede pitch? Or will we give a knowing dude head nod in the direction of young Logan?

DO the Padres regret the Machado deal? They stink, just like us, but they’re now saddled with a 300 million dollar guy. I don’t understand why it’s taking GM’s so long to figure out that the way to long term success is to draft and trade, not sign guys to 300 million dollar deals……

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  1. willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:17 am

    Giants saw best of all the young pitchers (which is all they have) Pads have the other night, Paddack. Most of the rest of them are still trying to figure things out and have ERAs over 4.00. They also have 2 young Cs, Mejia and Hedges who have to learn hitters umps and league in general, an odd move. Maybe they figure since these were guys that caught them in minors it would be OK but their pitching is 10th in league.

    If you take away Giants vet pitchers, SD guys probably a year or so ahead of most of Giants young guys in terms of experience though results haven’t been great.

    I texted godson about Machado and he said he thought next season he’d do better. As of a day ago, his OPS was about 10 points higher than Longoria’s and barely above .800.

  2. alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:19 am

    I don’t think all GM’s are stupid,Houston’s and Tampa Bay’s for 2 always seem to draft well and produce good teams because of it.Houston can now though make those screwed deals at the deadlines(Verlander&Grenke) because of their well stocked farm system.And then they find a golden ticket 🎫 castoff from the Dodgers lol in that Alvarez kid whose a 2nd coming of Willie McCovey and even wears his number 44,and has extreme power to all fields and will be in the ROY chase in AL…

  3. unca_chuck said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:24 am

    I wonder if Yaz gets any love for ROY. He’s not doing too shabby. But at 29 . . . Was Ichiro the oldest ROY?

    • alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:42 am

      Alonso wins it hands down.Tatis before he got hurt would of made it a close race.Yaz should get some votes as well for Oldest Geezer Rookie..

    • Macdog said, on August 31, 2019 at 9:00 am

      Looked it up: Sam Jethroe (Boston Braves 1950) is the oldest at 32 (although, according to Wiki, he was then believed to be 28).

    • willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 9:02 am

      Nice to see him get couple hits last night. He had been 0-18 I think coming in. Pads mgr. lamented the bomb to LF corner, saying couple years ago that’s just a routine fly out. Didn’t say anything about the one Machado hit that looked pretty cheap too.

  4. willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 9:20 am

    Hope Giants pull plug on this one last AB for Pablo nonsense. Let him go to the AL where he can be PH/DH extraordinaire for probably few more years. Good guy (and thx to Red Sox for $$$) but time to move on.

    Always dug dangerous PH guys like Jerry Lynch Manny Mota Matt Stairs Harry Spilman J Morales yada yada. Tough gig sitting and watching for 7-8 innings and then coming in late with game on line. Even tougher today with all the one inning 100 mph flamethrowers.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 9:34 am

      And the legend of Pinch Hitters Gates 2 hotdogs Brown stuffed in his uniform 🌭🌭nothing can top that game performance lol 😂

    • chipower9 said, on August 31, 2019 at 10:22 am

      Agree on the one AB nonsense, but I say I give Pablo a shot next year in ST to see what he has. I like that he plays many positions, good D off the bench, and also PHing.

      He is still under the Boston/SF contract next year and an UFA in 2021.

      https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/san-francisco-giants/pablo-sandoval-5355/

      • snarkk said, on August 31, 2019 at 1:11 pm

        In ST time, he won’t be near ready to participate, coming off Tommy John surgery — he hasn’t even had the surgery yet…

      • chipower9 said, on August 31, 2019 at 2:45 pm

        True Tom. I forgot about the TJ. Initial diagnosis was loose bodies in the elbow. Regardless, if he is under contract in the cheap keep him around, unless they know definitively that he will not play next year.

  5. Flavor said, on August 31, 2019 at 9:26 am

    hilarious esp when you consider how hard that big boy reliever is running in

  6. alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 9:30 am

    I noticed in the postgame interview Yaz said he was rushing his swing alittle causing his mini slump.But he’s smart enough to know how to fix it so it doesn’t turn into a prolonged slump.The guy is just a good hitter and continues to make adjustments.Now if Belt wasn’t so stubborn he could learn from him.
    Are better yet another team next year, preferably in AL..

  7. blade3colorado said, on August 31, 2019 at 9:56 am

    Not only did Green throw shade at Yaz’s bomb, but also at Belt’s. What the fuck is he talking about? Belt’s bomb would be legitimate in any park or with any ball made today or in the dead ball era. Also, agree with Willie about Machado’s HR – that had “Whamo Super Ball” written all over it. Idiotic comment by Green, whom must have just figured out that MLB is using a jacked up ball. lqtm.

    I hope MadBum is able to complete the season with a winning record. He’s been money just about all season. Over his last 13 starts dating to June 25, Bum is 6-1 with a 2.81 ERA. He also leads the NL with 176 2/3 innings pitched, i.e., he is back to being the prototypical work horse for MLB (at least for this era of 100 pitch counts).

    • Macdog said, on August 31, 2019 at 10:07 am

      Yeah, Bum threw it right back on the Machado HR:

      “This year has been kind of funny,” Bumgarner said. “Maybe not funny to pitchers, but funny for everybody else. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that one. Not here anyway. It was a good pitch.”

  8. sandog said, on August 31, 2019 at 10:34 am

    I’m still adamant they need to shut Cueto down after his last AAA start. Let him get back over to the Dominican Rebublic for some R & R. Go hang in his old ‘hood and get out to some clubs—maybe spend some time running around with Big Papi. The big leagues can wait!

    • Flavor said, on August 31, 2019 at 10:45 am

      I’d like to see him pitch an inning of relief today in SF or at leas throw one pitch.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 11:19 am

      I don’t think Cueto needs the R&R in DR because Papi got plenty of rest down their after he was SHOT!
      Let Johnny stay up here while he’s in good shape and make a few pitch count starts.I think he wants that as much as his teammates and fans do…

      • sandog said, on August 31, 2019 at 11:30 am

        Yes Kat, that would be a shame if something were to happen down there that ended his career before he ever got back on a big league mound…

  9. Flavor said, on August 31, 2019 at 10:45 am

    I’ve watched this twice, it’s hypnotic. Maybe it’s cause I’m tall and could never pull off the balance needed to do this.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 11:22 am

      Damm!! That’s amazing and really no pier pressure at all for this guy!

      • sandog said, on August 31, 2019 at 11:27 am

        Nicely done Kat!

      • sandog said, on August 31, 2019 at 11:58 am

        The initial entry onto the pier is bad ass and he does it so smoothly. I was hoping he’d launch into a swan dive at the end.

    • chipower9 said, on August 31, 2019 at 2:47 pm

      Son of a bitch…that’s a loooong pier. Nicely done…

    • gianthead said, on August 31, 2019 at 3:26 pm

      Optical Illusion!!!

  10. Flavor said, on August 31, 2019 at 10:49 am

    lol, for those of you who appreciated the Realmuto head shake of *no* please watch this dude break down what happened after. This is so great

    • alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 11:29 am

      That guy is such a dumbshit, the video was awesome breaking down the doofus!
      Who use to sprint in all the time for the Giants was Craig Lefferts lefty reliever who was part of the Giants heist from the Pads along with Dravecky&Kevin Mitchell! The difference is Lefferts always got guys out!! And he sprinted even faster then this chump…

      • sandog said, on August 31, 2019 at 11:35 am

        Heath Bell used to sprint to the mound for the Pads. From a fan perspective it was great. The crowd would go nuts and they’d crank a song called something like “Blow Me Away” on the PA. I loved it.
        Remember when he sprinted in at the All Star game and slid right at the mound? That was awesome too.
        Pablo was standing right there. I think even hard ass Joey Votto may have cracked a smile on that one.

  11. Flavor said, on August 31, 2019 at 12:59 pm

    PaulinAsia, I hope you saw my comment to you last night. One silver lining is that the stress of who was going to pay for what is now over. That must have been a terrible burden on you and your siblings, at least short term.

  12. dirtnrocksnomo said, on August 31, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    sandog is spot on regarding Cueto. Pitching at the major league level is more difficult than the minors and he will be maxing out his effort. For what? To ensure a .500 season? With Bumgarner resigning pretty much unknown it’s beyond stupid to risk an asset that will contribute next year. Cueto is potentially the club’s #1 starter next year and/or be a valuable trade piece.

    • Flavor said, on August 31, 2019 at 2:16 pm

      SanDawg is way way off here. I want Cueto and the $10 Diggity will owe me to toe the bejezus out of that rubber POST HASTE!

      • blade3colorado said, on August 31, 2019 at 4:28 pm

        Agree with you Flav . . . He’s going to be winging it whether he rehabs in the minor leagues or MLB. What is key and important, is what his physical therapist and physician says. If they blessed it, why wouldn’t he pitch at the big league level?

        I hope SportsDude comments . . . I always like his take on these medical issues since this is essentially his job (PT). My EMT expertise expired almost 40 years ago. lqtm.

  13. snarkk said, on August 31, 2019 at 2:36 pm

    OK, this whole vid is astonishing.
    But, check out 3:25 to around 7:40. Especially at 4:25 to 4:50. Sorry if you’ve seen it, and I know people do crazy stuff all the time, but that is IMO one of the most amazing athletic feats ever, and I am not joking. The guy said it took him 3 years to scope it and plan it. To say it is death defying is a pathetic understatement…

  14. gianthead said, on August 31, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    I think the Diaper Pads are so used to losing that signing Machado had more to do with bringing paying fans into the ballpark more than winning..

    • blade3colorado said, on August 31, 2019 at 4:43 pm

      Agree and frankly, they are making a lot of money. All MLB teams are.

  15. zumiee said, on August 31, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    Cousins is finding out the hard way that it is actually against the law to threaten to kill someone. It’s a misdemeanor. It can be hard for a DA to get a conviction on it; there are several things a DA has to prove to get a conviction.

    • snarkk said, on August 31, 2019 at 3:37 pm

      Dubs smartly let him go…

  16. zumiee said, on August 31, 2019 at 4:58 pm

    Another mass shooting, another day in the U.S.

  17. snarkk said, on August 31, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    On the KNBR “This day in Giants history”.
    8/31/66.
    Marichal beats the Mets 2-1 at Shea, in his 20th win of the year.
    Complete game, one of 25 he threw that year. 2.23 ERA, .86 WHIP.
    Finished the season 25-6.
    This marked his 4th season straight of 20+ wins.
    No Cy.
    Koufax took the Cy with 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 0.98 WHIP, 27 complete games. Not too shabby…

  18. Flavor said, on August 31, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    Twins have 8 guys with 20 or more bombs. EIGHT!>!>!!> That’s crazy

  19. zumiee said, on August 31, 2019 at 6:09 pm

    Dubon and Solano both in the starting lineup.

  20. snarkk said, on August 31, 2019 at 6:20 pm

    Webb definitely has more mental toughness than Beede.
    Beede would have given up at least a run in that situation.
    Webb fought his way out, and shut it down…

  21. alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    Marichal always got the shaft from writers, voters , whoever when it came to CY Young wins.Yes he was up against Koufax,Gibson&Seaver, but the Rosboro incident did not help his cause imo, and maybe his language barrier either.He certainly should of won the award once or twice..

  22. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 31, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    Craig, yes, thanks, I saw your comment in the last thread (I commented briefly further down), I appreciate it. My Mom’s death of course is sad but it was heartbreaking seeing her decline and hearing her say she was ready to go, so in some ways, it’s a relief, including all the hassles of the insurance and fees etc. The whole thing just wiped out any concept of death with dignity, which I am all for and will be including in whatever plan I come up with for my own end game.

    • Flavor said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:00 pm

      well, at least she’s at peace. In some ways it’s probably better to just go out like Snarkk’s sky diver, right? Blaze of glory? Fuck flying thru that tiny ass rock hole that was the most insane thing I’ve ever seen in my life.

  23. pawliekokonuts said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:08 pm

    Logan Webb looks a little like Matt Cain.

    • willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:32 pm

      yes he does.

  24. willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    Fighting Ducks lead Auburn 21-6 after 3. tigers offense looks like something designed by Mike Singletary.

    • willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:15 pm

      Auburn just scored though after long run on jet sweep 21-13.

  25. willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    Yankees won on what else walk off bomb by LeMahieu today off Trivino of A’s.
    it was Yanks record setting 74th bomb…of the month. Unbelievable

  26. Bozo said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    That kid can play some shortstop.

    • snarkk said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:20 pm

      Let him play.
      Like I said, no reason whatever to see Craw the rest of the year.
      Let Dubon get his feet wet, and see 100 more ABs in the big leagues, get ready for next season…

      • zumiee said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:23 pm

        Bochy won’t do that to Craw.

  27. mrsprtdude said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    I’m with you Paul. My dad has parkinsons, and is declining steadily. Cognitive issues. Incontinent of bowel and bladder. Can’t walk. He was a strong guy. Military guy. To see him like this really sucks. He is / was very healthy, so no other health problems to speed him along. Agony for him, and sad for us.
    Re Cueto..I would be in favor of him waiting. That said he already isn’t, so minors or majors no different. At this point the main thing is him being truthful to the Doc, PT, trainers. Athletes are often not the brightest. They get sore, but figure they can work through it like they always have…

  28. willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    wow Pillar and Slater at top of LU, great. Slater has to be in mix for regular OF spot. giants need all the .800 OPS guys they got and he is now at .939 with .500 slugging. Hopefully analytics guys next year keep him in there.

  29. alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    Dubon is smooth as silk at SS!
    But sadly Boch will still play his core to the end.All bets are off for next year though under Z, and his handpicked successor..

  30. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:50 pm

    Slater was lumped in with that group of potential OF of Mac, Shaw (who I still think could develop and contribute), Duggar, etc., but he seems to be one who has clearly developed and will continue to do so. I’m guessing he’s going to be a major piece in Z’s formation of the team going forward, especially as he displays some versatility in where he can play and play well.

    Mr. Dude, sorry to hear about your Dad’s declining situation. You are absolutely right: Agony for the parent, sad for the family. And sometimes vice versa.

    Webb, Dubon, soon Davis, the future has some bright spots already. Bring it on.

  31. chipower9 said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:51 pm

    What is going on with the Giant’s pitcher?

    Cueto looks good. Touching low 90s. 36 pitches through 4.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:02 pm

      Thanks for the update Chi!
      How’s my boy Jaylin Davis doing?

  32. snarkk said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    Cal Bears rolled 27-13 over a gritty UC Davis at Strawberry Canyon today.
    I think Bears are going to have a tough time in the air this season. Chase Garbers as QB is just OK. Just.
    I’m going with 7-5, with some close losses again, as usual. And, another handshake Bowl game…

    • willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:12 pm

      only saw about a quarter but Garbers, supposedly new and improved version, is nothing special. running game was great but that’s vs. FCS team. D is gonna have to keep them in games. I think they play tougher foes in league on road too, not good.

    • Flavor said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:24 pm

      buddy of mine from HS has a kid going to Cal—freshman QB Rowell. Not sure if they’re redshirting him this year or not.

  33. zumiee said, on August 31, 2019 at 7:54 pm

    Moronta threw a pitch and collapsed in pain. Seemed to be pointing to his shoulder area.

  34. willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    USC QB J T Daniels 13-14 105 yrds in 2 drives. Both of them result in TDs, 14-0 over Fresno St.

  35. willedav said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    Auburn kid QB throws game winning TD pass with 15 seconds left. They scored last 21 points of game and held Ducks scoreless entire 4th Q. Not good.

  36. zumiee said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:51 pm

    Watson and Smith gave it up again.
    And, of course, Myers hit an HR.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:59 pm

      Watson and Smith need a long winter’s nap….

      • snarkk said, on August 31, 2019 at 9:06 pm

        They’re on fumes. I would have IL’d them about three weeks ago, it was obvious they were laboring soon after the AS break.
        IL trip gives a refresher. But, they traded 1/3 of the Pen, so they had to pitch ’em…

      • unca_chuck said, on August 31, 2019 at 10:28 pm

        There’s always alternatives. Bring guys up.

  37. zumiee said, on August 31, 2019 at 8:52 pm

    Kershaw has lost 3 in a row.

  38. blade3colorado said, on September 1, 2019 at 7:16 am

    Any word on Reyes Moronta? It doesn’t look good from what I have read.

    • zumiee said, on September 1, 2019 at 7:59 am

      I’ve seen “acute right shoulder strain, MRI to come” posted from the Giants.


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