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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 11, 2019

Cueto returns and locks down a W. I lock down another 10 spot from Diggity. Lots of lockin’ down going down last night.

All eyes on Logan Webb tonight. Can he be a piece next season? Why not?

Here is the first part of the letter Stix wrote to Chi. I only snipped it because it’s long and I don’t really know how this is going to show up in the main thread. It was cool reading what he wrote. He and Twinner have something in common, they both just disappeared one day. But with this letter it kind of brings Stix *back to life*. Can’t ever have that happen again with good ol’ Twin. Anyway, the rest of his letter he breaks down the Giants in some detail. If you want to read the whole thing email me and I’ll forward it to you.

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  1. Flavor said, on September 11, 2019 at 6:02 am

    If you have the time, this is a good read.
    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a48031/the-falling-man-tom-junod/

    • gianthead said, on September 11, 2019 at 6:27 am

      Read it back when it was published…very traumatic read and that day and I got out of DC before total chaos set in. Let’s pray that what we hear of people facing imminent death that their brains shut down and go into blackout state helped these people avoid he worst possible suffering or thoughts at their last moments…

    • snarkk said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:44 am

      Great writing…

    • Macdog said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:44 am

      You’re the second person I’ve seen recommend that story, so yeah, I’ll have to give it a read.

      • Flavor said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:46 am

        it could be old stuff for an east coaster like yourself. But I learned a lot about things I had never heard before and as Snarkk said “great writing”

    • chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:59 am

      Great read. A well written encapsulation of that tragic day, 18 years ago.

  2. gianthead said, on September 11, 2019 at 6:21 am

    So much for AL pitching…Yanks are in for a spanking come playoff time…

  3. chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:02 am

    Cueto looked damned good for his first ML start in over a year. I read a quote from him the other day where he said he feels 18 years old, and is in the best shape of his life.

    Would love to see Z bring Bum back for three years (max) at a reasonable rate. Bum, Cueto and Smardge with the rotation filled-out with a couple of the youngsters. I think Webb can be one of those guys. While he got roughed-up in his last start, I like his stuff and his composure.

    Also loving Dubon. That kid just exudes baseball. He’s a player…Z did a good job in that trade, IMO.

    Another meaningless game today, but with ya Flav, hope that Webb has a good outing…something on which he and the team can build.

  4. willedav said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:19 am

    no reason not to let Davis play but for kids value is more for them to get an idea of ML ball and less about team evaluations. Next year will be dogfight for4-5 spots in a crowded OF, lot of names in the org looking to make team out of ST and Ramos lurking.

    Dubon and Solano plus one more back up needed on IF, and new 1b, maybe Shaw/Slater platoon.
    Pitching still biggest issue to me. Hard to trust September numbers when teams are tired/playing out string or run lot of new guys out there without much book on them. Dubon has made couple costly errors lately in games Giants lost and that needs to get cleaned up if he’s gonna be a regular.

    So far Giants young pitchers have been rather up and down and hard to watch. Z imo has way more work to do here evaluating who can A) make 30 starts (he needs at least 2) and B) pitch consistently well in relief (he needs 3-4 given how few innings SP go). Moronta is badly hurt and Gott is out too. Rest of them hard to watch.

    Giants aren’t gonna finish last and have already won 70 games. Even most ardent doomers here seem to feel good about direction Z is taking team. Next year should be way more interesting but…Pads (on pace for 76-86) young SPs appear a little farther along than Giants guys do and they already hit plenty of HRs.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:47 am

      The Pads are forever (well, the next 6-8 years) fucked by the Machado deal.

    • chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:09 am

      The flip-side on Dubon is that he has made some damned nice plays. I think the kid has what it takes to be a regular at either SS or 2B. Time will tell.

      Regarding 1B, what do you do with Belt? If there was trade value, he would have been gone in the flurry of trades that Z made this year, IMO. Team still owes Belt 32 mil over 2020 and 2021, and Belt has a limited no-trade clause with 10 teams. Will be hard to move that money unless the Giants eat some of it (same with Craw).

  5. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:24 am

    Wow. Intense story. Some of the video from the people trying to get out of the buildings, you hear the awful sound. I’ll never forget driving down 101 that morning seeing a Continental 747 escorted by 2 F-16s flying low over the Bay.

    Kathy was leery of travelling today, but this is how things worked out. She’s flying to New York today to see her friend from Hawaii whose daughter just moved to Brooklyn.

  6. djloo27 said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:30 am

    Does Cueto’s condition have any impact on what they do with Bum?

    • chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:11 am

      Good question. I think they need both (or another starter of similar skills). What do you think, Loo? Always love to hear your perspective on these things.

  7. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:38 am

    it shouldn’t. Cueto’s deal is already done. My hope is 3/$75 and Bummie is fine with that. If he wants to push it, he can get 5/$150 from any number of teams.

  8. snarkk said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:29 am

    I don’t see why Bum would not play hardball with SF re new deal, unless they already have a framework in place. I think that is unlikely. Partially his fault, but his old deal screwed him. If Giants give him Q offer, that may depress his market value, that’s why a July trade was best for his marketability. We’re i him, I’d move on to a young contender like the Braves. The Bochy bromance is done, so take the money and post season potential elsewhere…

    • unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:35 am

      Thing is, though, he’s repeatedly said he loves it here and wants to stay with the organization. He doesn’t mince words or bullshit around about shit like that.

      And I also think he still feels pretty stupid about blowing his 2017 season crashing his dirt bike.

  9. Macdog said, on September 11, 2019 at 10:13 am

    The freaky numbers thing happened again: After last night’s win, the Mariners are 1995-2019 since 1995.

    https://www.mlb.com/news/mariners-bruce-bochy-align-for-rare-1995-2019-stat

    • alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 10:55 am

      Wow..That’s a crazy stat MacDog nice 👍 find..

  10. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 10:52 am

    What do you guys think of trying Shaun Anderson as the closer next year? His stuff might work at well just going in and mixing up his heat,slider,breaking ball, curve and his youth is a plus..I know it was only Pittsburgh last night but he looked good..

  11. chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 11:03 am

    Flav – just shot you the latest letter from Stix. Maybe you can share with the gang here. I know when I mentioned hearing from him the other day, several were interested in seeing his letter.

    • Flavor said, on September 11, 2019 at 12:58 pm

      Will do when I get home tonight, thanks

  12. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 11:18 am

    I think Houston outscored half the NFL the other day.

    • snarkk said, on September 11, 2019 at 1:17 pm

      Those A’s v Houston games have a slight resemblance to what passed for baseball for most of my life…

  13. dirtnrocksnomo said, on September 11, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    Nice to see Cueto take the hill yesterday. He doesn’t seem to have skipped a beat. Sign Bumgarner and there’s a solid 1-3. Maybe Webb and Beede fill out the rest. Agree with kat that Anderson has looked good out of the bullpen and probably moves there next season. Between Belt, Posey and Crawford who has the most value to other clubs and is movable? I’d say Belt by far.

    • chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:28 pm

      Agree Dirt. Belt. Giants probably have to eat some per salary.

  14. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 2:54 pm

    Didn’t hear about this . . . ex-Giant Kyle Crick fucked up his hand in a pre-game fight in the locker room with Felipe Vazquez. This coming as the Pirates yet again guaranteed another losing season. From some Pittsburgh website:
    ___________________________

    The early word came during Game 2 with the press of a button from a Pirates email blast, stating Kyle Crick’s season was done after having extensor tendon repair surgery on his right index finger. The reason?

    “The injury occurred as a result of an altercation with Felipe Vazquez in the Pirates clubhouse prior to Monday’s game versus the San Francisco Giants,” the email read. And it was signed by Neal Huntington. “The behavior exhibited by these two players last night is unacceptable, inconsistent with the standards expected of a Major League player and will not be tolerated by the organization.”

    Vazquez pitched Monday night, earning his 26th save of the year, and was available Tuesday if needed in the wake of the incident.

    After the game Tuesday, Crick was quick to own up to the situation. He called media to his locker — a rare invite initiated by a player — saying, “Come on over” with a wave of his hand before he broke it all down.

    “You know, it’s just one of those clubhouse altercations, a lot of bickering back and forth,” Crick began. “Punches were thrown, and you kind of have to, at some point, stand up for yourself and start throwing ’em back. So it’s one of those deals where, you know, it’s unfortunate. There are two losers in this deal. Nobody can win a fight with a teammate.”

    Crick was asked if Vazquez threw punches at him first.

    “Yes.”

    The reporters on hand, myself included, then approached Vazquez’s locker and waited on him to finish getting dressed before going any further. But before that could happen …

    “Why do you want to talk to me? You already got all you need,” Vazquez said with a nod in Crick’s direction.
    ___________________________

    Good times . . .

    • Flavor said, on September 11, 2019 at 5:43 pm

      really interesting that this much came out. Players NEVER divulge this type of clubhouse stuff……

  15. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Trade Belt, eat some green, cut Crawfish. They NEED to get rid of 2 of the terrible deals. Longo is at least showing signs of life, Smargle is doing OK, and Cueto seems ok as well. But Belt and Crawfish HAVE to go if Posey is hanging on. Fucking Vogt shows more life than all the core put together.

    • chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 4:09 pm

      As I mentioned earlier, I think Belt would have been gone earlier when Z made his trades at the deadline, if there was anything resembling a viable trade. They owe him 32 mil over the next two years and he has a limited no-trade clause with 10 clubs.

      Lot of cash to eat if you want to move him and Craw. We all know it should happen, but I am not holding my breath. Maybe Z can make a compelling argument to the ownership group that these moves are critical to the team becoming viable again anytime soon.

  16. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 3:48 pm

    Devastating loss for the Brewers, Christian Yelich out for the year after breaking his knee cap on a foul ball swing that will probably end the Brewers chances of the 2nd W/C spot(Cubs will get it) and probably will pave the way for Bellinger to win the MVP…

  17. chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    1. M. Yastrzemski (L) LF
    2. Mauricio Dubon (R) 2B
    3. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    4. Stephen Vogt (L) C
    5. Kevin Pillar (R) CF
    6. B. Crawford (L) SS
    7. Jaylin Davis (R) RF
    8. Corban Joseph (L) 3B
    9. Logan Webb (R) P

    • blade3colorado said, on September 11, 2019 at 4:42 pm

      Wow! Buster out of the LU two days in a row. Is he in Bochy’s doghouse or resting or healing some unknown injury?

      • zumiee said, on September 11, 2019 at 5:46 pm

        We’re just kind of stunned when Bochy just puts the best batting order out there, regardless of who’s “one of his guys” or not.

  18. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 4:55 pm

    And my boy Jaylin 2 straight starts!
    Maybe a partial dementia LU card Bochy made up?

  19. Flavor said, on September 11, 2019 at 6:03 pm

    I’d love for one of you guys with a background in criminal law to break down what Stix is saying here. Is he saying he’s served 3 years and now has 3 to go?

    • alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:08 pm

      I thought it might have read, he served 3 years, cut a deal with Enrique Pelitio are some character and maybe just has 260 days left?8-9 months? But it’s hard to tell with his handwriting some.Sounds like their still treating him like garbage though,like a Rambo torture technique..

    • chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:36 pm

      It sounded early in his response that it was another 36 months, but later he mentions 260 days. Something I will seek clarification on in my next letter.

      I think I mentioned previously that I had a short phone call with him a while back, and his mind is sharp as a tack. But sure sounds like his body has taken a beating.

  20. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:08 pm

    From what I saw it says he’s only got 260 days left? Maybe with good behavior that’s what he has left. Seeing as he’s dione 3 years already, that seems about right.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:09 pm

      Then again, my background is merely being a criminal.

      • blade3colorado said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:21 pm

        That’s fucking hilarious.

      • chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:37 pm

        LMAO…

  21. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    Rough error on Yaz? No. He missed both cutoff men.

  22. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    This is silly.

  23. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    Speaking of Rambo, he’s got yes another one coming out Rambo will never die #22 are so.
    Think he might be back in the states planning Stix’s breakout!

  24. Macdog said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    I like his references to the Fed$.

  25. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    Nice tidy 5 pitch inning. jeeeeesus

  26. djloo27 said, on September 11, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    Is there anything we could collectively do for Stix that would help him get through his remaining time?

    • blade3colorado said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    • chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:24 pm

      I believe he would love, more than anything, to simply get a short note or letter from any of you. Include some Giant-relate baseball news clippings and you’re gold in his book. I think it would absolutely make his day. Do it, Loo, it will blow his mind.

      Karstie Clausen
      213 N. Main
      Bagley, MN 56621

  27. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:00 pm

    I’m not sure Loo, since Stix doesn’t even get to see light,air,sun, the helicopter 🚁 break out in the courtyard is probably no good.And I’m thinking a inside job no good as well,we would need to bribe a guard are 2 hopefully a pair that loves the Giants with the same amount of passion as Stix does!

  28. Bozo said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    Yee haw, the Giants get one in.

    • Bozo said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:09 pm

      Make that two in.

  29. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    That’s my Boy Jaylin!
    Nice AB for a RBI he needed!

  30. Bozo said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:19 pm

    Yes indeed I’m walkin’.

  31. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:23 pm

    Let the door 🚪 kick you on the way out Brandon!

  32. snarkk said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:27 pm

    Criminy does this team need some friggin bats. Bags loaded and no outs and one comes in on a BB, then Pffttt..

  33. willedav said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:32 pm

    Nice comeback. Webb’s ERA is now 6.75. Beede’s is 5.30 D Rod 5.00. By contrast Pads have 5 young SPs and 2 of them Paddack and Lucchesi have ERAs under 4.00, Lauer is at 4.40. None of these guys are 26 yet iirc. Smrdz will be in walk year next year. With Bum they still need 2 more young guys to cover 70 games somehow. Pads are 10th in league Giants 9th for team ERA.

  34. willedav said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:38 pm

    I like Yaz but he Ks a lot. That AB with bags loaded he swung at really bad pitch.
    Now a walk and a whack and Giants are another run behind.

    • blade3colorado said, on September 11, 2019 at 8:55 pm

      Agree. I’ve said it a number of times before, there’s a reason these 29 year old rookies like Yaz, Dick, etc., never played in the show before. Grateful for what they’ve done this season, but in my opinion, they are temporary pieces until the draft or trades produce better players. Found money under the sofa cushions like DRod and Suarez were last season. Enjoy them while they last.

    • Macdog said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:23 pm

      Everyone Ks a ton these days.

  35. Macdog said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:09 pm

    UnBarrable.

  36. snarkk said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:11 pm

    Bucs stink, and are making Giants look like trash…

  37. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:11 pm

    As Yaz’s K’s again..
    But I really do like his overall fundamentals of the game,although early on his base running was atrocious.He has pop, that we all have seen,but yeah like most Giant outfielders in the past, the time they get up here their not a prospect anymore. I still feel we could get 1-2 years more out of Yaz especially after we dump these hitting coaches as I’m sure Z will do..

  38. chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:12 pm

    Thanks for posting that, Flav. I know a few had expressed interest. And you’re right about the commonality of Twin and Stix. Seems they were both cut from the same piece of cloth. Lots of Twin memories out there.

  39. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:14 pm

    The Milk 🥛 Man looked liked sour milk on that feeble swing..

  40. chipower9 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:37 pm

    Pfffttt…

  41. Macdog said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:39 pm

    A 6-pitch save. If only the Giants could hit Vazquez as hard as Crick did.

  42. alleykat69 said, on September 11, 2019 at 9:40 pm

    Yep,just another sloppy effort..

  43. willedav said, on September 11, 2019 at 10:03 pm

    Mac’s right everyone does K a lot nowadays. Yaz is 2nd on team 26% with slater 29% according to F/G.
    Yaz also leads team in ISO power and slugging outside of small sample Dickerson.
    Imagine he’ll be big part of 2020 mix for the OF.
    2020 season something I can look forward to…along with end of 2019.

  44. unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    I wrote Stix a while back , and in his return letter he said one thing he said he couldn’t get was reports on the Giants minor leaguers. I put something together and meant to send it, but I never did.

    Any kind of contact from us will be helpful. We should just inundate hm with letters.


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