Feed The Beed
Beede getting into the 7th was a nice ceiling for him to break past. I haven’t checked, but I’m guessing that’s the first time he’s done that at this level. Five strikeouts and only 1 free pass. That will be the key for him and will determine his future success at this level.
I can’t watch these games. Sorry. Not all the way through. An inning here and there. Pittsburgh and Miami in September? I just don’t have it in me and it’s boring ball to boot. I am excited for the mlb post season though. I miss being a part of that but there are definitely story lines all over baseball that will be exploding this October.
Fire that shit up already.
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I can watch these September 2019 Giants games because I think about the long winter without baseball that is eventually coming.
The Craw, Posey, Belt, and Longo at-bats are hard to watch, though. Yeah, occasionally one of them has a good game, but mostly they aren’t fun to watch.
I was watching a Giants game with my mom, and when Posey hit into a double play, she said: “Every time he bats he makes one or two outs.” That was a great line from ol’ Mom.
it really was.
My mom watches every inning of every Giants game. If I had a dime for every time she’s complained to me about the Core this season, I could plunk down enough cash for a large pizza and a pitcher of beverage.
this is why I’m not buyin’ this claim that the FB housewives are going to throw themselves off the Dumbarton Bridge (insert joke there) if Young Z starts shedding the Core that drags us down…
Are you kidding? There has to be 10 posts a day about how stupid the Giants were to dump Panik./
20 years ago the Marlins would suck, buy some guys. Win WS, suck, repeat. When they won the 2nd one my brother asked me..would you rather win a few and suck or be competitive every year? I picked win a WS then suck FOR SURE since I wasn’t sure I’d ever see the Giants win one.Now I stand by that, and am ok with where we are. I remain positive in the face of sucking, and focus on the young guys like Beeded, Anderson Doubon etc…Watching the young guys brings the hope I get in spring training.
Actually rooting for the A’s so he can get that joy too. He went with my dad and I to game 2 in 2010. Cheered his ass for the Giants even though I’m sure part of him was jealous and mad his team had no chance.
Im supporting the A’s this year too. They have a fun team to watch I am definitely jealous about that. No problem with them winning one here and there. They are like the Dodgers, what do they have 60 years combined of no winning? Something like that?
The lefty reliever the A’s brought up has terrific stuff. He has a pitch that moves like (what we used to call) a screwball. It’s probably called some kind of two-seam thing now. It looks like a Wiffle ball pitch.
How about the Giants submariner? He’s better than I thought he’d be.
Memories of him…
I like Melvin but no to the A’s. Fosse and the other K are way worse than any Giants announcers, and Braden would be insufferable if they ever won a WS. Outside of Semien and K Davis (having rough year) mostly bunch of arrogant/annoying honkies.
I’m prepared for next mgr to be another in continuing line of Roberts/Cora clones. Most of their in game decisions revolve around finding what they are supposed to do on the iPad. they haven’t done the things Bochy did (and no one will again) like be around young people just learning the game at minor league entry level, long bus rides to and from small towns or having to throw your own batting practice.
Reading the printout of your lineup, pinch hitters/D replacements and relievers as opposed to managing people, coaches and players and media take very different skill sets.
And to win not one but 3 WS titles, unlike anyone in the SF era, is unprecedented and beyond remarkable.
I’ve said before that I’m very glad that Bochy is getting to end his career this season with some dignity. The Giants have been mostly competitive this season, and have given Bochy a lot of nice moments. The big grin on his face after the Giants won that second game in LA recently is something that I’ll always remember.
Next stop, Hall of Fame.
“This has been a good year and nothing but Positive Vibrations as brutha bob marley said so well for next year.
POSITIVE!”
I agree with that, Willie. I think the main positive vibe is having Zaidi running the show. And I totally don’t mean it as a diss of the previous regime. Sabean/Evans accomplished historic marvelous wonderful things. But sometimes change becomes necessary, and change had become necessary. New eyes, new ideas, and a shake-up of an organization that had ossified seemingly overnight. The game has changed because MLB is using an altered baseball. That’s not Sabean/Evans’ fault, but they showed no sign of making the adjustment.
And so we entered a new era of Giants baseball this season. And more change is coming.
“I totally don’t mean it as a diss of the previous regime”
Well, I guess it IS sort of a diss of the previous regime. It’s a complicated situation. Mixed emotions for fans. There’s no easy transition in this type of situation. It was basically a firing, and that’s not pleasant to experience. I hope that Sabeans and Evans aren’t just feeling unappreciated. I hope that as time goes on they’ll feel the love of the fans again. It takes time sometimes.
why can’t the previous regime get some criticism? Nobody is perfect or above reproach. I appreciate everything Sabean and Bochy brought to us. But it was beyond time to move on.
Also the guys that drafted wave of future, Bart and Ramos, and acquired Dyson Smith and Watson, plus Cueto.
Interested to see how well Z focus on player development brings success at lower levels.
The band Tears For Fears (who I like a lot) reunited after having been apart for 10 years. The two main guys said it took about 10 years for the anger between them to go away. It takes time sometimes.
You all might know the story of how Yogi Berra got fired as manager by Steinbrenner, and then he and Steinbrenner didn’t speak for many years, and Yogi refused to come to any Yankee events for many years. Yogi said his big beef was that George didn’t fire him personally; George had some flunky do it. Yogi had only become manager because George had personally talked him into it.
Later, George finally apologized to Yogi for the way Yogi was fired, and George held a big fundraiser for Yogi’s baseball museum, and all was good. Yogi started coming to Yankee events again.
Durant is not doing his legacy in the Bay Area any favors with some of his recent comments about his time with the Warriors.
I was a little put off by Zito’s comments the other day in the Amy G. interview, about how he didn’t enjoy the ’10 championship at the time. Not being on the playoff roster ruined it for him at the time. I just don’t totally get that. The goal is to win the World Series. Your team won it. Put aside the personal disappointment and enjoy the goal being accomplished. Well, that’s the way I see it, anyway. I know he was worried about his future in baseball. His confidence was pretty shattered at the time. He was in a dark place mentally. I have sympathy for him. But it would have been nice if he could have enjoyed what had been accomplished by his team. The team. It’s a team.
Of course, he had a legendary 2012, which became his legacy for Giants fans.
Maybe I’ll read his book.
His 2012 post season moments erased any bad he ever did when he was here. He was as responsible for WS #2 as Bum was for #3. He is a forever Giant to me and always will be. As you said, it’s all about winning the WS right?
Yes. 2012 became the redemption in the story arc. I have absolutely no problem with the money spent on Zito. Would any of us want to go back in a time machine and change a single thing about the 3-in-5? No way!! Any changes would create alternate histories that could have turned out differently. Everything had its place. Even Uggla’s brief horrific time with the Giants somehow fit into the mosaic.
zum, I’m not a big believer in the wings of a butterfly theory, bus as applied to the 3 in 5 — since that actually happened, I’ll go along with it. If Murph had a bad case of stomach upset in the middle of 2012 in Cincinnati, and that somehow caused Zito to have that great game with bunt hit in St. Louis later in the 2012 NLCS, well, OK, sure. But, I’ll never subscribe to the proposition that Zito’s disastrous contract was earned in that one game, or in that one and the good game he threw next in the 2012 WS. If we go down that road, then I guess anybody that ever really contributed to a big, key game “earned” an otherwise crap contract, and I’m just not buyin’ that. Whenever I hear Zito come on the sportsradio, and that’s thankfully rare, I change channels. His entry in Baseball Reference shows him – in an A’s cap…
Don’t go too far down that road. Just ask yourself, *would you trade the 2012 flag for no zito ever in Giants history?” No way for me
I doubt Zito has any say in which cap he wears on BR. Pretty sure they change them around from time to time.
Where do you stand on one hit wonder, Renteria?
Rent? All in. He paid his debt with that one swing.
I agree about Renteria.
As for Sabevans getting criticism — they can take it.
They get loads of congrats for taking the Giants to the 3 in 5, and deservedly so.
Likewise, it was on their watch that the players that led to the disastrous last 3 seasons were put together. And, the disastrous 2004-2008 dark era. But, that period they got many of the guys that led to the 3 in 5. And, you had 2002 WS.
Overall, their Giants legacy scales tip overwhelmingly in their favor…
I’d probably be a little easier on Sabes if he hadn’t been so fucking condescending. He thought Giants fans were idiots and he was always talking down to the hosts on his KNBR spots. He thought he knew it all. He didn’t.
“Let’s stay wit what we know here”…
Those Peyton/Brad P. commercials are not bad. I would have never guessed Peyton had any comedic ability.
I bet Z can’t wait to unload all the rotten core and start bringing up the stars of the future with more seasoning: Giants future studs that are young and talented: Infield Torinbo 3B, Luciano SS,Dubon2B/SS Wyatt/Shaw?1B Bart C
OF:Ramos,Bishop,Canirio,Fabian etc the wave is going to be a lot of exciting young international players which is the way baseball teams are going forward with.. I am stoked, especially seeing the 2 infielders Lucky Luciano &Dubon turning amazing plays with their athleticism!!
Unloading the rotten core will be the challenge. The ownership group would have to be onboard with eating significant contract money. This is somewhere Baer could actually help. He is a salesman by trade, and he could possibly sell the owners on the importance of doing it.
A non-baseball, but PR reason of sorts to dump the traditional WS core is that if they are still here stinkin’ it up for another couple of years, that trophy legacy for them gets stained in front of fans. If they stink it up elsewhere, outta sight, outta mind…
Excellent point. The closer I get to death I am now realizing we might never see another SF WS in our lifetime. It makes me love those guys even more—everyone who truly contributed to 3/5. But for those from that era who remain it really is damaging their legacy (to me) whereas if they had left when Zito/Timmy/Voggy/Huff/Torres/etc left I’d still remember them with nothing but great memories.
Yeah but the core were still only 26-27 in 2015 you can’t say we’re washed up yet..
Ridiculously bad call by the first base ump in today’s Cubs game, overturned immediately by replay. A case could be made that an ump should be fired after the game after that bad of a call. It’s such a bad call, they forfeit the right to be an MLB ump.
B/R …At the end of a 98-loss season in 2017, Giants ex Brian Sabean explained that the Orq was not going to begin analyzing ( cause probably know what knew what that meant lol) the teams most significant issues.
Sabean said the “Autopsy” performed by the Giants F.O. was executed month’s earlier, when the F.O understood the season was destined to be a massive failure..
So wtf nobody wanted to think about the future and just all kick back off their past laurels?? And now fortunately a light bulb came on and they hired a man like Z (who knows analytics than god) to clean up this massive pile of “Jurassic Dinosaur Shit” going forward! Besides most of the coaching staff that will be gone,I wish he had the power to dump Sabean and others up stairs,which of course is unlikely..
Sabean just naps under his desk now.
Giants vs. some pitcher named Dugger today, with 21 innings in the bigs, and none against the Giants. We know what mostly happens when SF is up against a guy they’ve never seen…
I’d like to see a combo of SS Dubon and 2nd base Solano, for a few games in a row…
Wasn’t Panda benched during the 2010 W/S??
Over weight, struggling at the plate, but didn’t complain cause he knew he did it to himself.screw Zito whining about being left off the roster he wasn’t good enough to be included that same year..
1. Mike Yastrzemski (L) RF
2. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
3. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
4. Stephen Vogt (L) LF
5. Kevin Pillar (R) CF
6. Buster Posey (R) C
7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
8. Mauricio Dubon (R) 2B
9. Madison Bumgarner (R) P
Get your core on!
Vogt playing LF is amusing. He can’t throw to second from the plate, but he’ll make a throw from LF to nab a runner going 2nd to home ? Ha ha ha…
The Pirates have been outscored 31-8 in their Cubs series so far, and game 2 is still going.
Zito only had ONE winning season in SF in 7 years!2012 going 15-8.Lifetime 52-70 Sucks!
But like many here I reluctantly give him a pass for “The Bunt” and à elimination game big game performance..
Jesus…the Giants draw CB Bucknor behind the plate, that will not make Bum happy 😫
Heard a nice interview with Dubon on KNBR this afternoon. Sounds like a great kid, easy to root for.
River Cats took the PCL title last night. Pretty cool.
First time since 1977 Phoenix Giants that a Giants AAA affiliate has done that…
come on what are we doing here
On Tuesday night, the River Cats play the winner of the other AAA league in a one-game national championship, on the FS1 Network at 5 PM Pacific Time.
That’s pretty cool.
Talk about moves.
ZMan ran 82 different players in/out of the River Cats roster this season.
82 guys get player rings for that championship…
Corbin Joseph — DFA’d.
Another answer to a future trivia question…
I don’t remember exactly what W total I predicted for Giants this year — could have been 77.
Looks like they’ll be hard pressed to get to get to that number…
I think I said 75.
Bet his wife is shaking her head in disgust!
Guess after he gave up 5 bombs in 3 innings against the Astros, he needed to try something different?
Damm no Dugger facing Duggar matchup, kind of a letdown..
Yeah, a missed opportunity we’ll somehow get over; not exactly Gagne v. Bonds …
That’s are boy Belt doing what he does best killing an inning with a DP ball.
Would it have been to much to ask to at least have Yaz&Dubon bat 1-2????
Brutal end to Iowa Iowa St game. Hawkeyes up 1 punt the ball after 3 and out with 1:45 left. Cyclones return guy is waiting to catch the short punt near sideline but a blocker coming back down field with his back turned runs into him and knocks him over while the ball hits him (blocker) in the back, and Iowa recovers it. Kneel down game over.
Shocking that Giants haven’t scored yet off this unknown starter…
Poor Bummie gonna get Cained. They said something like of all the winningest managers in ML history, Bochy has the lowest run support.
Sabean hit the jackpot from like 2006 to 2010 in the draft. It got them most of their infield and most of their starting pitching. Before and after was a miasma of dogshit and mediocrity draft-wise
Pillar’s bat kinda grinding down as the season ends. Not surprising, Bochy has run him into the ground. But his glove is still in tact, man what a catch earlier.
Running Pillar into the ground is certainly a understatement.Boch finally gave him 1 day like 2 months ago, and nothing since, playing the Pence Ironman call way to much..
30 years ago, playing the whole season wasn’t an anomaly. Pitchers get shit for being coddled, but why are players deserving of rest? Posey Sure he’s a catcher. OF you are standing around gort 2/3 of the game. PLease.
I don’t know. I guess he could use a day or 2 once in a while, but is it really that taxing?
Imagine if both happened at the same time. We’d be at 10,000.
Barry would have hit 100.
Fuck. Blow the chance to score then give up the bomb.
Ballgame!!another tough loss for Bum getting no run support…
473 feet is darned impressive.
Some playoff team should have gone hard after Bum. That’s a blown opportunity.
it’s mind blowing. Unless Young Z wasn’t allowed to sell due to pressures from the players/FB housewives
2nd and 3rd one out I’m saying they don’t score..
At least Solano is up. I’m with this guy more than the core.
There it is!!!
Sol man!
Well I’m glad I was wrong! Solano is such a Money player! 2run triple gives Bum a chance for a win..
Massive numbers of relief pitcher changes won’t be happening next season, of course, because of a new rule going into effect.
What rule is that Zumie?
Any reliever brought in has to face at least 3 batters that inning, unless the inning ends first.
I am totally down with Dubon.
The kid can hit, run, and his D will be just fine.
Solano has done nothing but rake and produce since he has been here.
He’s got an .806 OPS before that 2-RBI triple.
Bochy won’t give him consistent starts, he’d rather have Crawford flail toward the finish line.
I wonder if Crawford has some sort of contract milestone incentive that gives him more $ that Boch is helping.
Solano sitting instead of getting a real look see as a tandem w/ Dubon is really ridiculous …
With you 1000%. Crawfish is the worst of the core.
BF’s 8:11 is really coming into focus now.
Failing to deal Bum and Smith when the playoff chance was about 1% was a big mistake…
They were like 25-5 in July. That’s a unique situation. But I bet if the Yanks or someone had come hard after Bum with a high prospect, he would have been dealt.
I’m semi-convinced that most teams shied away because Bummie has stated that he wants to remain a Giant and wherever he went, he;d be a 2 month rental.
Smith I have no idea. I really thought he’d be gone. Watson as well.
I must say this is the stupidest commercial ever. Your face doesn’t get sunburnt when snorkelling.
And waste the oppo, get burned the next inning.
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It ticks me off when Boch and maybe others in the organization just think Solano is a backup/ occasional start, when he easily has been one of their top hitters all year..
It’s Bochy. The core is going to play. Bochy is gonna Bochy.
Kat, your are right on with that.
Solano is 31, they must figure he’s only good in short stints or off the bench.
But, they won’t try him for half a dozen games in a row as starter to see if that view is wrong.
Gotta play that big contract, even though the season is meaningless, and Bochy is gone in two weeks.
I gotta believe ZMan is deferring to Bochy in this; then after the season, it’s time to get down to making baseball decisions…
Yes Snarkk, It’s all about the BS Bochy Tour, that Z has let him run out his way with the rotten core till the end.He won’t make that mistake next year, with his hand picked manager,who will hand pick his own coaching staff and jettison this old bunch of relics..
So much of Thor being a closer dude next year!
Just doesn’t have the “Wow” factor and the mental toughness for the role. Give me Gustave anytime, he’s been nails..
IDK, Kat. At least they’re giving the kid a tryout in late inning Pen work.
He’s been a closer in college. Then always a starter in pro ball.
I think it takes a while to get the arm back to being used night after night.
I’d keep throwing him out there from the Pen to see what happens…
Kat, I posted above, the new rule is any reliever brought in has to face at least 3 batters that inning, unless the inning ends first.
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Is that gonna happen?
Yes. I think.
Geez I sure like 103 mph that Guerrero throws. Same with that kid in San Diego ,Munoz?
Man I would love to have at least 3 in the Giants pen that can crank it out like that..
Dodgers lost. That’s always pleasing.
Anderson has been fine. One bad outing isn’t gonna run him out of the job. Gustave is good for a look as well.
Who the hell was that guy who just struck out?
Adames instead of Shaw?
And Gerber instead of Shaw.
That’s a little showboating by the pitcher there to end it.But when your comeback for the big hit comes down to .063 Gerber Baby 👶 it doesn’t matter..
September has been and will be a good, educational month for ZMan. He can confirm just how weak the talent pool is in this organization, even with the callups. Hope they can avoid not losing the series to the hapless, gutted Marlins tomorrow, with Cueto going. Hopefully Posey and Crawford will be sitting for a scheduled “day”. If Bum is on the Cubs or Cards, Bum has 15 wins; 18 on the Braves. Dubon rocks, BTW…
Looking forward to Lil’ Yaz playing at Fenway. He should start all the games. This is one time I’m totally fine with PR and sentimental stuff overriding any baseball evaluation. Doesn’t matter who pitches, lefty or righty…
I agree. He deserves it. He’s been one of the best stories for the Giants this season.
Oh yeah Yaz will get his starts in Carl’s park who will be there, it’s going to be fun for all of Boston fans as well who really get into their homegrown players! Plus playing the Green Monster where Carl roamed for years adds to the excitement!
Then again don’t we all want to see Vogt tackle the Green Monster as well?
Super impressive pffft by Chuck at 835.
Busy with college stuff all day dropping Trev off at Cal Poly SLO.
Hottest I can ever remember it being here.
Not NYC on the subway with Loo hot, but not far from that either.
Fun to unwind and check out the posts.
Dubon starting SS next year??? One of the big parts of moving on from the core is finding capable replacements. Bart probably not ready for primetine next year, so dont send send your Posey jersey to the thrift store quite yet…
Great player. Unique.
Total class on / off the field.
What he says about playing every day, the Giants players should follow.
Wish he had been a Giant…
https://www.mlb.com/news/ichiro-suzuki-honored-with-franchise-achievement-award
Miami is 3-17 in their last 20 road games.
2 of the 3 have come in this series.
Giants have lost 10 of last 13 home games.
SF is 32-42 at home this season…