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Screw The Giants

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on January 30, 2020

Ok, I can put up with a lot of shit…..actually that’s not true at all.

So if they do this:

Screenshot 2020-01-30 at 6.05.58 AM

…..Ima go off.

This couldn’t be a more disrespectful move to the fans. If this happens, and it really already happened with The Panda, the front office is saying “We know you’re a bunch sheep who will sit passively and graze at the trough of garlic fries as long as we trot out names you’ve heard of.”

There is absolutely no other reason to bring back Hunter Fucking Pence.

I am telling you right now, I am not going to a game in 2020 unless the ticket is free…..

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  1. alleykat69 said, on January 30, 2020 at 7:26 am

    Don’t blame you BF! Hunter Pence????
    How much fuckin older can this team get?
    They already qualify for AARP and medi cal..
    And shit I can’t take another year of that dumbshit bitch Lexi posting on instagram!!

  2. chipower9 said, on January 30, 2020 at 7:27 am

    Panda, on a minor league deal, I could see, as the guy can be a utility guy to play multiple positions, including being your emergency catcher. The Giants also have a number of young Latino players in the org, and he could help in bridging the gap for them.

    But Hunter FUCKING Pence and his BIMBO bride…no bueno.

  3. alleykat69 said, on January 30, 2020 at 7:39 am

    Panda’s best position now will the mop up pitcher in 15-3 blowout games..

  4. gianthead said, on January 30, 2020 at 7:59 am

    Really would be senseless in throwing Pence a bone… they have to learn whether any of Slater, Dickerson, Davis, Duggar and Shaw can stick. Those dudes get this year to prove themselves or sayonara. I sort of get Panda because Longoria sucks and nothing we could do and he is not holding back anyone that is big league capable as 3b backup. And he can at least consistently hit is a pinch hitter. Get Senzel!!

  5. zumiee said, on January 30, 2020 at 7:59 am

    Joey Bart likely makes it to the majors this season. That’s the kind of thing that will be remembered from the ‘20 season.
    Lincecum was brought up in the ‘07 season. That’s what we remember from that season.
    The ‘07 team won 71 games. Who cares?

  6. djloo27 said, on January 30, 2020 at 8:07 am

    The lack of promising young pitchers is the most disturbing thing to me…

  7. alleykat69 said, on January 30, 2020 at 8:21 am

    Yeah GH I like Senzel a lot he can play anywhere (the perfect Ben Zobrist type.But I heard the Reds even with their crowded outfield/infield they want to keep him.Besides he’s only 24,way to young for a Giants team that wants to get OLDER!!!

  8. willedav said, on January 30, 2020 at 8:23 am

    Webb, who had some good outings last season, only pitched 100+ innings last year due to the suspension.
    Pavs said it’s unlikely Giants allow him more than 130 this year, so maybe 20-25 starts
    . Also said it’s possible Giants go with an opener. so a middle relief guy starts, webb comes in and goes 4 and departs yada yada.
    Managing the game via iPad…let’s see how many batters/how many pitches/ high stress related with men on base and then warning light comes on and Kapler’s on his way to the mound.

  9. djloo27 said, on January 30, 2020 at 8:26 am

    Sorry, but the canonization (Bob Costas’ word) of Kobe is out of control, IMO.


    Only a matter of time before someone from the ground crew (I assume there was one) speaks out and reveals the pre-flight decision making process and how it was determined that it would be okay to fly.
    And of course the obligatory lawsuits…

    Do you think the OJ Bronco chase would have been covered live on every network if it was Norm Bulaich instead of OJ?

    • sandog said, on January 30, 2020 at 9:07 am

      Norm Bulaich reference! Outstanding! DId you consider going with any other players—or was Norm your guy from the start Don Nottingham or mabe Jim Bertleson??

      I have Kobe fatigue as well. RIP, but this is getting to be a lot.

      • djloo27 said, on January 30, 2020 at 9:09 am

        I got some big laughs with it years ago, so I stuck with Norm…

  10. willedav said, on January 30, 2020 at 9:20 am

    Pav’s has story on nbc site on Giants 1b, yakking it up that this will mark 10 years of Belt starting at 1b. Here’s direct quote from Kapler: “I’ve thought a lot about Brandon Belt, how impressive it is to watch him take an at bat, independent of the outcome…”
    since 15-17 Belt’s numbers have gone steadily downhill. Slugging has dropped from .478 to .403, OPS from mid high .800s to .742. Even BA from .280/.275 to .234. LHP kills him, .211 last year and his home numbers suck: .709 OPS 5 HRs 20 rbis. He’s just hit plateau and would rather umpire than hit. Pls, he has to go those are not anywhere acceptable stats for 1b. Free up the spot and move on.

    • Flavor said, on January 30, 2020 at 9:33 am

      from your lips to God’s ear. –without question the most boring hitter we have on the team.

  11. djloo27 said, on January 30, 2020 at 9:34 am

    Can this be right?

    According to spotrac.com, Puig’s market value is about three years and $53.6 million, which works out to roughly $17.5 million annually.

    • sandog said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:05 am

      Probably. Look at Ozuna and Castellanos. Neither of those guys hot huge $

      • djloo27 said, on January 30, 2020 at 1:17 pm

        I had no idea he’d be that expensive.
        Even I wouldn’t give him that.
        I’d go 2/30 with an option.
        What’s the difference – ain’t happening…

  12. snarkk said, on January 30, 2020 at 9:46 am

    I’d prefer Mike Pence on the squad over Hunter. My booing would be unqualified…

    • sandog said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:05 am

      …you guys are on fire today!

  13. unca_chuck said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:11 am

    Even entertaining Pence means they have NO faith in the AAA(A) guys. The facebook moms will be in heaven though. Peruse the Kruk & Kuip, and Krukow & Kuiper facebook sites for some good old fashioned out-of-touchness.

  14. unca_chuck said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:14 am

    Are they that down on Jaylin Davis? Jesus.

  15. willedav said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:15 am

    reading through the MLBTR story on Y Sanchez, some hopes up this signals less PT for Crawford/trade elsewhere. Sanchez is classic good field/no hit player; Dubon did play some SS last September and should be at least league average .750 OPS guy with speed and some maybe occasional pop.
    Solano is still around too and with extra spot on roster might still hang around.
    Meanwhile Craw gets the message—less playing time, fewer ABs, and backs off the NTC.

  16. unca_chuck said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:16 am

    Norm Buliach? I saw that guy play for the Colts. Big and slow. Just like Ken Willard. 3 yards and a cloud of dust. The Dick Nolan way.

  17. Pasalon said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:51 am

    Apparently I’m the only true Hunter Pence fan on the ‘flap. This would be rad. Only thing better would be to bring back Matt Duffy at the same time.

    • Macdog said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:59 am

      Too late.

    • Flavor said, on January 30, 2020 at 11:10 am

      PaSalon you’re lucky you’re so good at hosting me in Reno as well as convincing pit bosses to cash tickets that aren’t there. Otherwise this comment may have ended our fellowship

  18. sandog said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    I’m trying to play along with Z-man, and maybe his thinking is that if Dick and Duggar get hurt again (which is highly likely) or if they suck or Davis sucks or Yaz regresses, we will need some bodies to throw out there to fill out a line-up.  That’s where Ruf and Rickard and Pence come in.  They’re there if we need them, and if we don’t, we can quickly cast them aside like doubles of a Norm Bulaich football card.  

    • chipower9 said, on January 30, 2020 at 3:05 pm

      We are in the minority, Dog. You and I may be the only ones who are cutting Z any slack.

  19. sandog said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    Norm Bulaich Fun Facts (Courtesy of Wikipedia)
    Still alive, now 73
    Played college ball at TCU
    First round pick of the Colts in 1970
    Had the team record for highest single game rushing total (198 yards) until 2000 when Edgerrin James broke it.  (Some good RB’s passed through town between those two dudes—Joe Washington and Lydell Mitchell to name a couple)
    He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated in 1971

    • unca_chuck said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:39 pm

      My favorite cover was from the 1971 football preview with 1970 mvp John Brodie on the cover saying Here Come the 49ers.

  20. dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    I’m starting to think Zaidi might not be so good at this whole PR thing.

  21. unca_chuck said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:39 pm

    Pence IS a PR move.

    • willedav said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:51 pm

      yes exactly. Only good side of this I can see relates back to Pillar. I wasn’t his biggest fan but he did bring the balls out energy to the yard every day and I think that is good message to all the young OF guys. Yes you are in ML and this is how you have to act if you want to stay here.

      Hard to say what Pence has left, and if most of what happened in Texas owes more to the yard generally being good place to hit but I think that’s part of the idea–he brings it every day, whatever he has left. He was mostly a DH though and could not even finish a season healthy, which I think for him ended in August. Will look that one up.

      Also brings the relentless K and K, “he was a good Giant/great Giant.”

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on January 30, 2020 at 1:00 pm

      meh, letting an icon like Bumganer walk and dumping guys like Pillar under the pretense of a rebuild/getting younger only to turn around and ink the over the hill gang doesn’t strike me as a good PR move. Maybe it’s just me. I think Zaidi would benefit from stepping back a bit and letting his GM handle the press a little more.

  22. unca_chuck said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:45 pm

    Ain’t the internet grand?


    • sandog said, on January 30, 2020 at 2:13 pm

      It sure is my friend….

  23. Flavor said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:54 pm

    Pence was an all star last year I think. He’ll have options, zero reason to come back to our bullshit ballpark. It’ll never happen, he’ll use us as all other hitters do: for leverage

  24. willedav said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    Out of the 83 games he got into last year, only 24 were as an OF. Last game played Aug. 22..
    Think the key word in phrase he was a good giant would be “was.” long past time to move on, pls.

    • Flavor said, on January 30, 2020 at 12:58 pm

      Yeah, all star last year as a DH

  25. willedav said, on January 30, 2020 at 1:10 pm

    Agree with you Flav, and what Dirt said. If this was gonna be hey we’re gonna go all in and play the kids we got kinda year, then why bring in all these old guys to fill in and take ST ABs? And Z still hasn’t dumped off 3 IF guys so plus Posey that’s half the LU.
    That Pavs column on Belt was pretty odd. At one point he talks up what a patient hitter he is and how much Giants value that approach. Blogger comments about 100% against Belt.
    If they were to place value on pulling the ball out of the yard, easiest place to hit one at the O, fine. Otherwise Belt refusing to swing at an outside pitch because of his knowledge of the K zone, when the D is shifted completely the other way is just baffling.

    • unca_chuck said, on January 30, 2020 at 1:24 pm

      Craw is the same deal. How many times can you pound an outside pitch into the dirt and ground out to SS?

      Infinite, apparently.

  26. alleykat69 said, on January 30, 2020 at 2:23 pm

    Aaron Rowand still available Z?
    Always can use a guy that pounds the outside slider into the dribbler to 3rd base..

  27. zumiee said, on January 30, 2020 at 3:28 pm

    Things get even more real when we see video of body-bags being taken from the crash site by helicopters.

    Loo referenced the pre-flight decision process, and it would be interesting to know, but we may never have all the answers on that. It’s been interesting to hear some veteran helicopter pilots speak out. One of them talked about how pilots who get hired by celebrities want to make sure they please the celebrities (and keep their status with the celebrities), and so they are sometimes willing to take chances to keep the flight on schedule.
    Plus, in this case, you had other adult passengers who were getting a (probably) free helicopter ride with a celebrity. That might make them more unwilling to voice reservations about the weather conditions. And to decline the helicopter ride completely might make them think that will make the celebrity miffed at them, and they won’t have the same status with that celebrity anymore.
    There’s a lot of subtle social dynamics going on all at the same time.
    I guess that I’m thinking Kobe had the biggest say in the pre-flight decision. But then again, maybe the pilot either didn’t know certain things about the weather that day (and why didn’t he?) or he knew some things but withheld that info from Kobe and the whole group.
    One of things that I didn’t know before this, is how much contact goes on between a helicopter and the flight control people. That makes sense that there is that much contact.

  28. zumiee said, on January 30, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    I agree with SanDog, the gathering of the old cast-off vets is just some cheap insurance in case the young players flame-out. The goal is to go with the younger players. Z doesn’t want the old vets to end up as starters. The hope is the young AAA and AAAA guys show something. And if they don’t show something, you start casting them off. The Duggar gang. There’s a whole bunch of those guys that Z needs to make a decision on. None of them really jumped out at us last season.

  29. zumiee said, on January 30, 2020 at 3:58 pm

    From an article related to the one Dirt posted about the guy who listened to many hours of game video and charted Astros cheating:
    “According to Adams’ compilation, the Astros were at their sign-stealing best Aug. 4 in a 16-7 pounding of the Blue Jays, relaying to the batter at the plate what was coming on 54 of the 175 pitches they faced that night. That was their highest total in the 58 games examined.
    Blue Jays starter Cesar Valdez was roughed up for six runs in 3.1 innings and ended up on the injured list four days later. Reliever Mike Bolsinger, clubbed for four runs in a third of an inning, was designated for assignment the next day. Neither has pitched in the majors since.
    “Good people’s lives were altered by fraudulent activities and fraudulent numbers,” texted someone else with the ’17 club.”

  30. djloo27 said, on January 30, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    Pence is not a National Leaguer anymore.
    He couldn’t make routine plays in his final season…

  31. zumiee said, on January 30, 2020 at 8:08 pm

    The Kings happen to be the team playing the Clippers at the Staples Center tonight, and all that goes with that.

  32. zumiee said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:03 pm

    Kings win!
    The Clippers were without Leonard, and they seemed emotionally flat, which is understandable, all things considered.
    Kings’ Fox had a strong aggressive game.

  33. zumiee said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:20 pm

    “The NBA announced major changes to the All-Star format on Thursday, turning every quarter into a mini-game for charity before an untimed final quarter with a target score that will decide which team wins. Scores will be reset — back to 0-0 — at the start of the second and third quarters, then restored to begin the fourth quarter.”

    Whatever. I won’t be watching.

    • alleykat69 said, on January 30, 2020 at 10:24 pm

      That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of…

      • djloo27 said, on January 31, 2020 at 4:21 am

        The dumbness goes beyond what Zumie wrote. There’s some inane “tribute” involving Kobe’s #24 being part of the score that I can’t even figure out…

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