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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on February 9, 2020

Here’s our current outfield group + B-Hammy. I have no idea who Joe McCarthy is or why he’s on the active roster.

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There’s a lot of bolshit on that list but this is probably what we get in 2020. I’ve accepted Pence into our lives. He’s here, might as well make the best of it and there is no easier dude to root for.

With all those names you have to wonder if the future of J-Davis is shrouded in limitation in SF…..

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  1. willedav said, on February 9, 2020 at 8:12 am

    ST can be such a crapshoot too. Ball carries way differently in AZ than anywhere else. Sorry to hear Garcia is injured. I’d leave Bart and Ramos neither of whom did much vs. AA pitching, another few months at least to show they can hit pitching above A level. Davis still looks like potentially best of bunch though he didn’t show much in limited time up 2019. I would have thought top 5 that go ML once season starts would be Yaz Davis Dick Slater plus 1 more not including Dubon who is supposed to get time in OF. With Pence and not counting Ruf Rickard and BHam, lot to shake out.

    James, in cursory look at Belt split numbers…2016 he hit almost as well at home as he did on the road. what happened in 2019 to skew those numbers downward at the O, especially for slugging? On road he struggled at Coors too, a place he used to light up.

    • James said, on February 9, 2020 at 12:37 pm

      WillieD, in 2018 his slugging dropped way off after a great start, and he had surgery on his knee after the season. The start and drop off were not as dramatic in 2019, but the nbc piece that had everyone aghast that Kapler would see some value in Belt also briefly mentioned a lingering injury. Not sure how much stock to put into that info, but those kind of nagging, but not IL worthy maladies can take you off your game just enough. The inability to drive the ball to LF and the fewer hard hit balls to the OF in general could be explained that way. Or it’s just that he’s now being increasingly overmatched at age 31. I suspect it’s the latter. Didn’t answer your question directly, but a guess at explaining the larger pattern is what I’ve got.

      • willedav said, on February 9, 2020 at 12:43 pm

        thx. knee surgery or lingering problems after it, and playing OF, might all be mitigating be factors. Lot of complaints here and elsewhere that Giants seemed to be hitting off non juiced balls all the time, even at home.

  2. alleykat69 said, on February 9, 2020 at 9:10 am

    Well if the Giants don’t give they’re only 5 tool potential player Jaylin Davis 500 AB’s they’re just damm fools.Im sick and tired of waiting for a player to get his just due until he turns 28-29 to get his shot.
    Take the training wheels off in a shit season and see what you got..

  3. willedav said, on February 9, 2020 at 11:14 am

    I get Pence as a motivational add on to keep guys fired up/role model balls out hustle every minute type of player, but…there has to be certain level of performance on the field and at the plate in order for that to resonate. He hit well for Texas but didn’t play much OF and couldn’t finish the season, which ended in August.

  4. sandog said, on February 9, 2020 at 11:26 am

    Agree on Davis getting lots of AB’s and I haven’t given up on Duggar yet. I know the early returns are that he can’t stay healthy, but the guy plays an amazing center field and has had moments when he has hit a little bit.
    I’m pulling for the guy big time. Much the same with Dick—who has a better bat than Duggar, but seems even more likely to get hurt. Garcia getting hurt sucks. I was looking forward to having a young guy being the #2 guy and now we probably are looking at another Kratz type dude.

  5. chipower9 said, on February 9, 2020 at 12:15 pm

    Gotta see how Davis and Duggar play out. They need ABs.

    Dick? Health is always the issue.

    Pence? He’s there predominantly to put asses in the seats. Shit, I hope we don’t have to put up with a bunch of shenanigans between Pence and his dipshit old lady. 🙄

  6. snarkk said, on February 9, 2020 at 12:54 pm

    The last time the Giants had a Nina fide major league home grown outfielder was Chili ? Is that right? I mean a guy who can hit for average and power, run and field. Whoever, it’s been a long time. Hopefully that ignominious streak stops in the next half decade. I don’t see anybody like that on the above list…

    • snarkk said, on February 9, 2020 at 12:54 pm

      bona fide

    • snarkk said, on February 9, 2020 at 12:58 pm

      Bishop, Ramos? Only time will tell…

    • zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 2:27 pm

      Sabean/Evans traded Brian Reynolds, who competed for the NL batting title last season.
      At that point, you just kind of have to shake your head.

      • alleykat69 said, on February 9, 2020 at 2:49 pm

        Yeah and did it at age 24 years old! If he’s still with the Giants Reynolds would still be in the minors.Not like other organizations that get these guys playing before age 28..

  7. alleykat69 said, on February 9, 2020 at 2:09 pm

    Doesn’t it seem like Ramos has been around along time? Yet he’s only 20!
    Another kid a year younger but showing power is outfielder Alexander Canerio.Keep an eye on him in the future along with Bishop..

  8. djloo27 said, on February 9, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    I’m still waiting on Angel Villalona…

  9. zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    The Giants top 10 prospects according to Baseball America:
    1. Luciano, ss, 18 years old
    2. Bart, c, 23
    3. Ramos, OF, 20
    4. Bishop, OF, 21
    5. Canario, OF, 19
    6. Toribio, 3b, 19
    7. Corry, LHP, 21
    8. Matos, OF, 18
    9. Hjelle, RHP, 22
    10. Dubon, 2b/ss, 25

    • Flavor said, on February 9, 2020 at 4:29 pm

      Maybe the first 3 are top 100? That’s all that really matters.

  10. zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 5:18 pm

    I think the Oscars are tonight, but it’s not something I usually watch.
    I would like to see Elton and Bernie win best song. That’s my only rooting interest.
    I’m a few years behind in movie watching.

  11. zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 5:31 pm

    I highly recommend “Hidden Figures” from a few years ago. That’s probably the most significant movie of the last few years, because it’s a great movie, but it’s also rated PG which means that probably literally millions of students are seeing the movie in school every year now. It’s historically educational, but also very inspiring, and just flat-out entertaining.
    As you all probably already know, it’s the previously untold story of brilliant African American women who worked for NASA during the height of the space race with Russia.

  12. zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    I liked the movie about Freddy Mercury a lot, and the one this year about Elton John.

  13. zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 5:42 pm

    On this date in 1964, the Beatles made their performance debut in the U.S.; they played 5 songs on the Ed Sullivan show, and blew millions of minds. Billy Joel has said he joined a rock band the very next day, and he was one of many inspired to form bands.
    The 5 songs:
    All My Loving
    Til There Was you
    She Loves You
    I Saw Her Standing There
    I Want To Hold Your Hand

    • zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 5:49 pm

      In addition to playing really cool guitars, the set design for their first set that night was trippin’ cool.

      • djloo27 said, on February 9, 2020 at 6:02 pm

        Think Pete Best was watching?

      • zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 7:17 pm

        Rough one for Pete.

      • alleykat69 said, on February 9, 2020 at 6:51 pm

        Had to be the worst of times and not the best of times for Pete…

  14. djloo27 said, on February 9, 2020 at 5:47 pm

    Betts and Price to LA is done.
    Pederson stays.
    Maeda goes…

    • zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 6:04 pm

      Verdugo might do well with Boston as an everyday player.
      That would somewhat soften the blow for Red Sox fans.
      Pederson probably wishes he got traded so he could be an everyday player.

  15. alleykat69 said, on February 9, 2020 at 6:14 pm

    Not a good day for Pederson, who also lost his arbitration case.Wanted 9.5 mil has to settle for a paltry 7.5 mil..

  16. mrsprtdude said, on February 9, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    Was out of town. I agree with Craig. pence signing is hands down the dumbest ever. makes me wonder if ownership pushed for it. How else do explain the lack of AB’s the young guys will get? For a guy how can’t be in their plans. 1st time i have seriously questioned the ability to rebuild. That says A LOT, since we have sucked it for a few years. I had faith in Z and now he has to win me back…Shit

  17. djloo27 said, on February 9, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    Our “young guys” are all on the wrong side of 25…

  18. alleykat69 said, on February 9, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    And are old guys are just on right side of 35..

  19. zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 7:26 pm

    Checking online….
    Best song hasn’t been announced yet.
    Brad Pitt won an Oscar for the Tarantino film.
    Laura Dern won an Oscar, too.

    • zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 7:27 pm

      Dern’s film is called A Marriage Story.

  20. zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    Her father Bruce Dern played some whacked-out characters.

    • alleykat69 said, on February 9, 2020 at 7:40 pm

      I liked Bruce Dern in Nebraska, as a cankerous alcoholic.Film was really done well, and received many Oscar nominations..

  21. James said, on February 9, 2020 at 7:52 pm

    Zumiee and I should start a new blog: Belt and the Beatles.

    • zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 7:57 pm

      🙂

  22. alleykat69 said, on February 9, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    Academy’s forgot to honor Robert Conrad..Wild Wild West, RIP Robert 84 years young.

  23. zumiee said, on February 9, 2020 at 8:08 pm

    Elton and Bernie win!
    It’s not a great song, but it serves the movie well. The song encapsulates the main theme of the film which is Elton’s lifelong quest to feel loved, after growing up in a cold family life. Music became a way to seek love and adulation, but the great fame also led to huge addictions. He loathed himself often throughout his life, despite his stardom. He found real love with David Furnham. They now have two sons, which are a huge joy in their lives. Elton learned to love himself.

    • djloo27 said, on February 9, 2020 at 8:15 pm

      Families are overrated…

      • James said, on February 9, 2020 at 8:21 pm

        So is loving yourself. Insecurity and self-loathing can take you pretty far, if properly channeled.

      • alleykat69 said, on February 9, 2020 at 8:23 pm

        Yeah just ask the Manson Family..

  24. snarkk said, on February 9, 2020 at 10:22 pm

    Pitt was pretty good in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
    I’d give hottest blonde Oscar to Margot Robbie in that one.
    Oscars are nothing but marketing sops. Half the members of the Academy don’t even watch the films they get to review. Maybe more than half…


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