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All Star Sunday

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on February 16, 2020

Dunk contest in the books—definitely one for the ages. While Gordon got robbed you can’t really go wrong with DJJ winning it, he put on an equal show. It’s amazing to me that a guy as athletically gifted as Derek Jones Jr. can’t be more than a fringe player in an actual NBA game….

This all star game today, man I’ll watch it. But this format is incredibly stupid. Maybe the emotions for Kobe will carry it through to something everyone embraces when it’s all said and done but it could also easily fall flat. The NBA has gone completely bonkers with this Kobe stuff and it’s a great example of how you can overreact to someone passing away….

Re-read the Bauer piece that Sportsdude posted yesterday. I wish more baseball players were as smart and introspective as Trevor Bauer. If the Astros were 1/10th as intelligent we wouldn’t have been subjected to these ridiculous lies they’ve been telling the last few days….

Dogs, man

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  1. zumiee said, on February 16, 2020 at 8:23 am

    The 3-point contest had an exciting finish, but the whole contest is pretty blah, even with a Sac King winning it. Hield’s season has been a disappointment overall. He didn’t step up to a new level this season. He seems to have leveled off.

    • willedav said, on February 16, 2020 at 8:46 am

      think so Zum? I don’t see them much but he’s had some monster games; always dug 6th man types that are lights out scorers off bench and he might have found a comfort zone doing that. Team is in a lot of flux too, guys in/out of lineup due to injuries, working with new coach and new players. West is full of very tough teams.

      • Flavor said, on February 16, 2020 at 8:59 am

        the way I look at Hield is that he’s been a great teammate to accept taking this 6th man role. And, he’s been more productive as a result. I don’t think he’s leveled off at all, I think he’s found his calling.

  2. willedav said, on February 16, 2020 at 8:42 am

    Tony Fernandez, aka “Cabeza” from San Pedro de Macoris of DR, dead at 57. Little dated but highly recommend “Eastern Stars” set in San Pedro de Macoris. Tells good story of local economy, baseball history and the coming of the Academies to sign up local talent. Also tremendous disparity from those who have it made (Sosa Andujar etc.) and rest of populace.

    AS game lol. I can barely watch Warriors. College ball sure, HS live action, OK. Props to Rutgers for 17-0 home record and beating ranked team Illinois in toughest league going. Jersey could be well represented come March.
    Meanwhile bobby Hurley and ASU trying to pull off road sweep at Cal today.

  3. alleykat69 said, on February 16, 2020 at 8:59 am

    Too bad about Tony Fernandez, he was a solid player for years with Toronto.Got a W/S ring thanks to Joe Carter’s walkoff HR off Mitch Williams.
    Heard he was suffering with kidney problems& a stroke.RIP Tony🙏

    • willedav said, on February 16, 2020 at 9:30 am

      loved the throwing motion too just so smooth. Not the way you’d teach a little league kid, but worked for him

  4. Flavor said, on February 16, 2020 at 9:01 am

    SO the first excuse was Altuve saying his wife didn’t want his teammates ripping off the jersey and the country seeing him shirtless. Then Correa said it was because of an unfinished tattoo. What’s today’s excuse gonna be? The Astros are a bunch of lying, cheating chumps. I hope they lead the league in getting drilled.
    Wilco, if you read this, what are you telling your son about all this? Or does everyone in Houston just sweep it under the rug?

  5. alleykat69 said, on February 16, 2020 at 9:48 am

    To me it was all about Beltran getting all this shit started.He had close to 20 years playing, every teammate looked up to him and never questioned him.Once he got Cora in line first, the rest was an easy domino effect, especially the young guys just getting a taste of the bigs, no way are they not keeping they’re mouths shut!
    Altuve&Bregman also just signed HUGE Contracts prior to this scandal breaking,they knew no matter what their cash was safe..

  6. Macdog said, on February 16, 2020 at 9:57 am

    Correa saying Bellinger should “shut the fuck up” in his interview yesterday is just nuts. It’s too bad the Astros and Dodgers don’t play this season, there would’ve been an epic brawl probably in the first inning.

  7. alleykat69 said, on February 16, 2020 at 10:18 am

    Jose Altuve says he has learned from his mistake and is now a new man, so he wants a new name.”Just call me Buzz.”

  8. snarkk said, on February 16, 2020 at 11:36 am

    If the offensive numbers are down substantially with Astros this season, they are toast with the fans until they break up that team. Even more than now. Every team cheats, that’s baseball history. But, they took it to a cynical, brazen level that is chickenS 🐔 and indefensible. That they won’t admit how bad it was, makes it infuriating. This is way worse than a revelation that the entire squad was on the Clear and the Cream…

  9. willedav said, on February 16, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    It will be really interesting to see what Manfred and his investigation come up with in regard to Red Sox. They were up to stuff in 2017, then hired Cora to mange the club and oh btw won the World Series in 2018. Given overall reaction to what he did to Stros, and the lack of accountability taken by Stros players, management and ownership, let’s see what Manfred does now.

    • Flavor said, on February 16, 2020 at 12:30 pm

      Manfred doesn’t seem equipted to handle this type of chaos

      • alleykat69 said, on February 16, 2020 at 1:09 pm

        Agree. Boston is going to skate thru this compared to Astrocans..
        Guess all things between Dodgers&Mookie Betts will blow over now that they’re teammates. Just how baseball works, forgive&forget.Except for Houston, they are screwed forever!

  10. snarkk said, on February 16, 2020 at 12:52 pm

    Am I wrong or when Kobe was playing in the NBA, he was respected as a balls to the wall player, but he wasn’t revered. IMO, one could say he was fairly widely disliked. I’m certainly saddened by his death, along with his daughter and all others in that crash. But, seems like more than a bit of revisionist history is going on with all this post-mortem worship by the NBA and sports outlets, or at least “recency” bias is, as he seemed to lighten up and turned into more of well formed human after he retired…

    • djloo27 said, on February 16, 2020 at 1:56 pm

      I think that’s accurate, Snarkk.
      In your opinion, do you believe there will eventually be lawsuits from the families of the victims – almost regardless of what they ultimately determine caused the crash?

      • snarkk said, on February 16, 2020 at 2:06 pm

        Almost a certainty. Kobe’s estate will be a defendant (unless it reaches a settlement with the families before lawsuits to avoid publicity and perhaps negative light on Kobe if someone alleges he told the pilot to press on despite foggy conditions, etc.), the helicopter service, Sikorsky the manufacturer, probably a few more who had a hand in the flight somehow…

  11. alleykat69 said, on February 16, 2020 at 2:27 pm

    Kobe’s estate for sure will be a defendant with so many people involved.Maybe even the traffic controllers, who was telling the pilot( also guilty of negligence) “your too low climb to 2,000 ft and turn left” but not knowing where the mountain range was in the fog.That could fall on the State to be liable as well, I believe?

    • djloo27 said, on February 16, 2020 at 2:58 pm

      Although, how is Kobe responsible? He didn’t force anyone to get on the plane and I doubt he could overrule a pilot…

      • snarkk said, on February 16, 2020 at 4:16 pm

        He leased the helo, he’s got a duty of care as lessee to his invitees; and his estate is apparently worth north of $400 million…

    • snarkk said, on February 16, 2020 at 6:51 pm

      Extremely hard to be successful in a lawsuit against the state for anything. Have to prove the employee was acting outside his authority, essentially…

  12. djloo27 said, on February 16, 2020 at 3:08 pm

    Comparable in any way to this?


  13. zumiee said, on February 16, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    I agree that the 6th man role is great for Hield, bringing instant offense off the bench. As a starter it kind of came across as ball-hogging. And he’s not much of a defender.
    I hope he fully embraces the 6th man role.

    • willedav said, on February 16, 2020 at 6:04 pm

      He can really shoot Zum and just come into game and focus on scoring and igniting offense, ala Lou Williams. that guy is just amazing and has incredible knack for drawing fouls and getting to FT line.

  14. zumiee said, on February 16, 2020 at 5:04 pm

    I have been supportive of the Kings drafting Bagley instead of Doncic, but Bagley has missed a lot of games his first two seasons with injuries. Doncic has missed some, too; but obviously he is an all-star already. Some regret about that draft pick has started creeping into my mind.

  15. zumiee said, on February 16, 2020 at 5:18 pm

    Manfred said today that “the Astros vacating the 2017 championship would have been a futile gesture.” Wow. What?
    I’m pretty sure Landis banning 8 players for life for the 1919 Black Sox scandal didn’t see it as futile. I think Landis made his point pretty strongly to MLB players.

  16. Flavor said, on February 16, 2020 at 5:22 pm

    all this singing and poetry is bullshit. Play some damn basketball……

    • zumiee said, on February 16, 2020 at 5:28 pm

      This is a ridiculous pregame extravaganza. Sheesh, it’s basketball, not the birth of the universe.

  17. djloo27 said, on February 16, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    If I were the Astros, I would blame Hurricane Harvey for causing them to feel pressure to win and raise the spirits of the city…

  18. mrsprtdude said, on February 16, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    They renamed the AS MVP trophy for kobe. Crazy that everyone forgets he was a pain in the ass that couldn’t get any players to come to LA. Likely raped a girl, or at least cheated on his wife. Killed the lakers by demanding to be highest player in the league his last 2 years.
    A rich guy with no job he had to report to spent a lot of time with his kid playing / coaching sports. Me and every dad i’m friends do or did the same thing, while working with no millions to fall back on. Enough already…

  19. willedav said, on February 16, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    NBA ruined AS game long time ago. Did watch Cal give ASU all they could handle; Sun Devils point guard Remy Martin took over last few minutes(17 second half points 3-3 from 3 plus 5 assists) and put them away. He’s probably no worse than second best player of year in conference with Pritchard the Oregon point.

  20. zumiee said, on February 16, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    The NBA All Stars honor Kobe by jogging up and down the court, playing a half-hearted pick-up game.

  21. djloo27 said, on February 16, 2020 at 7:17 pm

    In 1970, Willis Reed was MVP of league, playoffs and ASG, I think…

  22. mrsprtdude said, on February 16, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    Willdav..I did watch the game. ASU on a roll:)

    • willedav said, on February 17, 2020 at 7:32 am

      Verge off the bench for them is really good. AZ schools went combined 4-0 up here…not good weekend for locals.

  23. alleykat69 said, on February 16, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    And Willis Reed’s game 7 in 1970 was for the ages playing on a hobbled leg that helped the Knicks win the title along with Clyde Frazier and Dick Barnett..

  24. alleykat69 said, on February 16, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    Walt Frazier.. Not sure how Clyde popped in my head?

    • zumiee said, on February 16, 2020 at 9:08 pm

      That’s his nickname. You were correct.

  25. Bozo said, on February 17, 2020 at 7:52 am

    As far as the Astros are concerned, I think more pitchforks and torches are needed. We need some of those to go directly to the Office of the Commissioner (1271 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY, 10020). All of those top execs should be fired for not taking action after 10-12 teams came forward and complained. I mean the number 1 job of the office and the reason there is a Commissioner in baseball to begin with, is to stop and punish cheating. Their main concern isn’t, or shouldn’t be, the time of the game.

    And what about those 10-12 teams that complained are they off the hook? Did they up their own cheating game when they saw that the League wasn’t punishing Houston? The A’s were one of those complaining teams and good for them, but did they go to the Angels/Mariners/Rangers and tell them about it? Or did they see the Astros cheating as an edge to their own competitors? Team Execs are quoted as saying this thing was an “open secret”, yet how open is it if not all teams knew about it? Or were the Dodgers the only team that didn’t know (I kinda like the thought of that). Did Beltran have some sort of cheat in place when he was with the Yanks? Was that why he told the Astros they needed to up their game?
    I think this thing is bigger than just the Astros and a ton of blame should be laid on the League for sitting with their thumbs firmly planted in their asses. And just for the heck of it, fuck Chris Marinak.
    Anyway I thought this was a pretty good article on the whole shit show. https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/02/12/rob-manfred-must-answer-for-his-mishandling-of-the-sign-stealing-scandal/

  26. Bozo said, on February 17, 2020 at 7:55 am

    Damn, even the photos of the MLB executives oozes slime. https://www.mlb.com/official-information/executives

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