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Kenny Rogers is Dead

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 21, 2020

This bummed me out. Not because I was a fan of his music. My dad was. I remember a lot of Kenny Rogers getting played on the radio as we drove up to Tahoe for ski trips. Anyway, the Gambler is gone and I’ll always have fond memories of him even that song he did with Sheena Easton which was super creepy. Go look at the video again and tell me I’m wrong.

Today’s challenge: think of a band all your friends liked that you never got into. And then pick the song by that band you could most tolerate and post the video below. I’ll go first: I never liked Weezer. Everyone I know liked Weezer. This song was about the only one I liked or at least could listen to:

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  1. Flavor said, on March 21, 2020 at 6:26 am

    he looks like he’s, what, bout 40 years older than her? lol

  2. Flavor said, on March 21, 2020 at 6:30 am

    Sheena Easton sounds like one cooky broad. Married 4 times, longest one lasted 18 months.
    Easton has been married four times and has two adopted children. Her first marriage was in Scotland to Sandi Easton at the age of 19. The marriage lasted eight months. Sandi Easton died in 1998, aged 48.[20]

    Her second marriage in 1984 to Rob Light, a talent agent, ended after 18 months.[21] Easton became a U.S. citizen in 1992, carrying dual citizenship with the United Kingdom, and adopted her first child, Jake Rion Cousins Easton, in 1994.[22] Two years later, she adopted again, this time a baby girl she named Skylar.[22] In the summer of 1997, she met producer Tim Delarm while filming an episode of ESPN Canon Photo Safari in Yellowstone National Park and they married in Las Vegas in July 1997;[citation needed] the marriage lasted one year. On 9 November 2002, she married John Minoli, a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon; they divorced in 2003.[23]

  3. pawliekokonuts said, on March 21, 2020 at 7:09 am

    Not exactly a fan, but I remember when he was with the First (Fifth?) Edition or whatever early in his career. What Condition My Condition Was In. Strange song.

    When my daughters, Wife 2, and I went to SF for my birthday in 2009, we drove down to Monterey on the Pacific Coast Highway singing Lucille. No idea why.

  4. pawliekokonuts said, on March 21, 2020 at 7:11 am

    Do yourselves a favor. Go to YouTube and let Toccata and Fugue in D Minor wash over you and soak into your bones. Try the Xaver Varnus version in the Berliner Dom. It’s J.S. Bach’s birthday. Close your eyes. Listen.

    • Macdog said, on March 21, 2020 at 9:06 am

      Get Bach.

      • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:13 am

        Get Fat

  5. willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 7:47 am

    Wasn’t there a pretty funny commercial with Kenny Rogers and some buddies who are trying to play poker while he’s going through his patented lines?

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 8:47 am

      geico. he’s singing along while his buddies are giving him death stare, and he goes, “what?”

  6. willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 7:56 am

    One of my fav jazz records of all time would be Trompeta Toccata from 1964 on Blue Note by trumpeter Kenny Dorham, with Joe Henderson and pianist Tommy Flanagan. Flanagan’s b-day was March 16, died mid November 2001 at age of 71. He was principal pianist on John Coltrane’s breakthrough LP Giants Steps on Atlantic records spring of 1959.

  7. Macdog said, on March 21, 2020 at 9:17 am

    I went to a Sheena Easton concert at the Garden State Arts Center in NJ sometime in the 80s, probably when she was just hitting it big. My memory was she seemed a bit nervous at first, perhaps playing a venue larger than she was used to, but damn she sounded pretty hot with that Scottish accent.

    RIP Mr. Rogers. This video has been making the rounds on Twitter:

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 9:53 am

      ha thx Mac pretty funny nice J (did get off ground didn’t he?) and sweet pass from Rogers. MJ all on all the time, lol while everyone else playing not to get hurt and have some fun.

  8. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 9:53 am

    I have some friends who like Primus. Not a band I was ever going to “get.”
    Great musicians in the band, though. “Jerry was a Race Car Driver” is tolerable to me.

    • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:18 am

      Prepare to get jealous, Zum.
      I was inside 10050 Cielo – 30 some years ago.
      Anyone here ever visit Dealey Plaza?

      • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:53 am

        I had to look up the Cielo address. Yes, definitely makes the “ghoulish tourism” list.

      • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:59 am

        Sarah Vowel wrote a very entertaining book called “Assassination Vacations” about visiting the sites of presidential assassinations. She’s very funny, with a quirky sense of humor. She has her own unique niche of historical books.

      • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 12:30 pm

        I don’t think anyone post WW2 changed the course of history more than him:

  9. rarugilman said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:05 am

    Wow Flavor, sad tidings indeed. Loggins & Messina’s early album The Best of Friends was one of my favorites as a kid, I’ve included one song that we would dance to. So many other classics on there too.

    • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:11 am

      lol!

    • Flavor said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:26 am

      incredible. I got a feelin’ Zumiee is gonna love this tune.

      • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:34 am

  10. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:40 am

    Is there a bigger load of crap than Trump’s daily press briefings? Full of flat-out lies and happy-talk B.S.
    He’s just showing up to get camera time. It’s a campaign event to him. He does harm by his disinformation.
    Dr. Fauci patiently waits each day until it’s his turn to give a few minutes of actual truth.

  11. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:43 am

    I was in a grocery store this morning. I could see a discernible difference in tone from last week in the same grocery store. People today were more tense and moving faster. I saw a shouting match between a customer and store manager.

  12. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:49 am

    Giants TV station is showing a game from September 2012 vs. Padres, at 4:00 PM Pacific Time today. I don’t know the significance of the game.
    The game will be condensed into 2 hours.

  13. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:50 am

    After that, the network is showing a Warriors game.

  14. Pasalon said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:50 am

    There’s more than a little irony in The Gambler dying when the actual gambling is dying as well. Flav, this is an interesting challenge. I’m going to have to go with Springsteen. Now don’t get me wrong – As a guy, as a human walking the Earth, I think the Boss is up there with the best of the best. I’m sure he’s someone who everyone who has ever come in contact with would go to great lengths to describe as a great person. Like Bon Jovi, I am down with the Jersey vibe and all that good stuff. But there’s not a single song Bruce has written that resonates with me on any level. Sorry Flav, that’s not really the challenge, but it’s my answer.

    • Flavor said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:53 am

      yes you actually failed the challenge, I guess the moment got to big for you? But I like the post nonetheless

      • Pasalon said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:57 am

        Then allow me to retort. “Lips Like Suger” by Echo and the Bunnymen. Matt Candler used to play that fucking song excessively when we were roommates in college. It was like torture at first, but that song kinda grew on me.

      • Flavor said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:59 am

        the only thing that sucked more than that song was Candler. Candler was lame, matey.

      • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 2:19 pm

        Nice Pulp Fiction reference, Pa…

  15. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 11:03 am

    I was negative on Springsteen for a long time, but I’ve warmed up to him over the years. “The River” is a brilliant double album that I finally appreciated.
    The acoustic album “The Ghost of Tom Joad” is another favorite of mine.

  16. dirtnrocksnomo said, on March 21, 2020 at 11:30 am

    Great thread on music which is the ultimate generational divide here at the Flap. Basically the same feeling for me regarding The Gambler. I was never a fan but my pops played him many times as we headed up to Mendocino County on hunting trips back in the day. It was basically all Rodgers, Eagles and Fleetwood Mac iirc.

    zum, funny that you posted Primus. Some of my closest friends were musicians who opened for Primus in different venues around the Bay Area. A couple of pals ended up in the Dance Hall Crashers which was an offshoot of Op Ivy-a way better band imo. Anyway, I helped break down their sets here and there and shared some of the hippy lettuce with Les a couple of times. Dude was just as weird in person as one might imagine. Speaking of artsy fartsy friends, most of mine liked R.E.M who I couldn’t stand. This one was almost palatable.

    • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 11:42 am

      I LOVE REM. 🙂
      The opening of this song would absolutely be my walk-up music if I was a pro baseball player.

      On a very sad note, the song title is about Agent Orange and the human damage it did. I think TF blamed his cancer on being exposed to Agent Orange so much in the Vietnam War.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on March 21, 2020 at 11:47 am

        Haha, I sort of figured you’d be an R.E.M fan. Not that there’s anything wrong with that 🙃. Yes, I remember tf making comments to that effect.

  17. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 12:25 pm

    Twin was such a great resource.
    Can only imagine the Trump rants…

  18. dirtnrocksnomo said, on March 21, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    Speaking of music, I’ve seen reports that Slim’s is closing permanently which is kind of a bummer.

    • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 12:47 pm

      Cool venue. Saw lots of great shows there.
      They served a very good dinner in the balcony.

  19. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 12:38 pm

    I’m expecting a PSA soon that strongly encourages masturbation…

  20. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 12:51 pm

    The MLB Network right now is showing the game that Red Sox fans refer to as the “Bucky Effing Dent game.”

  21. willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 1:19 pm

    Not an REM fan myself, but props to them for making this one; admitted it was an anti-war song. The US govt in early 60s (JFK giving the go ahead) decided to defoliate forests and agricultural land of 3 different countries with disastrous results to indigenous locals, their descendants and their own American soldiers. All the while playing the deny game to the UN and eventually to their own citizen soldiers and their families via the Bart Simpson “you can’t prove it” defense. Oh btw, the main ingredient dioxin once it gets in an aquifer can last for 100 years.
    Monsanto the gift that keeps on giving.

    • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 1:22 pm

      Well said.

  22. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    The Giants game at 4 PM is when they clinched the NL West in ‘12.

  23. alleykat69 said, on March 21, 2020 at 2:14 pm

    That Dr.Fauci besides being the shortest guy from NY city ever, looks like Alfred E. Neumann from my Mad Magazine Days of pure entertainment reading!

  24. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 2:26 pm

    Dent changed bats right before the HR. That actually looked a little suspicious.

    • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 2:34 pm

      I think it was Nettles who “corked” his bat with Super balls…

      • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 2:41 pm

        On Sept. 7, 1974, the Yankees’ Graig Nettles hit a home run against the Detroit Tigers. The next time up, he hit a broken-bat single. Tigers catcher Bill Freehan scrambled for the six superballs that came bouncing out. “I didn’t know there was anything wrong with the bat,” Nettles said after the game. “That was the first time I used it. Some Yankees fan in Chicago gave it to me and said it would bring me good luck. There’s no brand name on it or anything. Maybe the guy made it himself. It had been in the bat rack, and I picked it up by mistake, because it looked like the bat I had been using the last few days.” Nettles was called out on the single, but his solo homer was allowed and that made all the difference as the Yankees won 1-0.

  25. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 2:46 pm

    How is it possible that they’re still racing at GG & SA?

  26. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    Flavor, you have one minute to talk me off Royal Act…

  27. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 3:14 pm

    The broadcasters in the previous eras didn’t dissect everything during the games as much. That can be a pro or con depending on how viewers feel about that.

  28. sandog said, on March 21, 2020 at 3:24 pm

    @Pasalon—I was gonna go with Springsteen!

    The songs simply do not sound good to me. My take (similar to yours) is that he seems like a great dude and (from what they tell me) he puts on an incredible live show, and that has primarily led to his great popularity.
    If I have to hear one of his songs, make it “Glory Days,” which I think tells a classic old story well and I find a little bit catchy.

    With The Boss off the board, I will go with Whitesnake. There was a time when they were damn popular with my rock crowd, and they just never did it for me. Still don’t. If I must hear one of their songs, make it this one:

    • Macdog said, on March 21, 2020 at 3:41 pm

      I like Bruce, got some of his albums, but never got into him like many of my fellow Joisey-ites have, some of whom are wacko fanatical. And you picked the song that is probably my least favorite — or most annoying — of his: Glory Days.

  29. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 3:29 pm

    Born In The USA is my #1 worst song of all time…

    • sandog said, on March 21, 2020 at 3:34 pm

      I remember. Our shared hatred of that song is one of the core tenets of our friendship.

      • sandog said, on March 21, 2020 at 3:40 pm

        Other tenets include:
        The Giants
        The Chiefs
        Budweiser
        Wranglers
        Coney Island
        Solo Fungos

      • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 4:34 pm

        Great list, Dog. Who knows how many others there might be?

        Ketchup?
        Cold Pizza?
        Tijuana Smalls?
        The smell of gasoline?

        We may never know.
        I had to look up “tenets” BTW…

  30. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 3:43 pm

    Springsteen was not big in my core of friends in the 1980s.
    And hair metal was not allowed.
    We wore black, and we loved just about all the bands on MTVs “120 Minutes” show. Sunday Nights at 9 PM, the world stopped for that show.
    The Letterman Show was also required viewing.

    • sandog said, on March 21, 2020 at 4:01 pm

      Even though I have always been more of a rock/metal guy, I used to dig 120 minutes too. XTC was my gateway band for getting into alternative music.

      • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 4:18 pm

        Yeah, the band XTC was highly revered in my group of friends.
        It turns out the band rarely toured because the lead singer didn’t like performing live.

  31. willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    Springsteen seemed more the chick magnet type of performer didn’t care for him either. did think band got into pretty good groove on “10th Avenue” a favorite of drummer buddy of mine.

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 4:04 pm

      jazz guys backing up in horn/reed section–Brecker brothers ( Michael and Randy tenor sax and trumpet) and David Sanborn on bari.

  32. sandog said, on March 21, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    The other day before all hell broke loose, my daughter dragged me to a used music store she likes. I really wasn’t in the mood, but I found the CD “Saturation” by Urge Overkill for $3. It was kind of a weird deal as years ago I had that album and remember really liking it, but I hadn’t heard a song on it in over 20 years–and could barely remember any of the songs. (I think I had it on cassette and long since lost it) But I was curious how it would sound, so I burned that sucker into my Itunes, and man, I still really dig that record.
    Another funny thing, I had no idea where the band was from and never owned any other albums by them.

    I’m sure Zum knows that band. Any of you others?

    • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 4:25 pm

      This one was a big hit on 120 Minutes. Cool song.

  33. willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 4:21 pm

    Scutaro my fav hitter entire LU. Just exploded after Giants got him for Culbs.
    Looked at the box and Pads of those days had Grandal (who didn’t start that night) and miles mikolas.

  34. Winder said, on March 21, 2020 at 4:30 pm

    Loved Marshal Tucker, Allman Bros. but just could not get behind Lynard Skynyrd. All my friends really like em, the only song I kinda liked was Tuesday’s gone.

  35. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:02 pm

    Current U.S Corona death rate: .0013
    That’s 1 death per 766 diagnosed cases.

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:41 pm

      you know with all the celebrities and athletes testing positive, I have hard time believing Rudy Gobert is gonna die from this. Hanks isn’t either, nor Sean Payton. It’s a hotbed around Bay Area and number of positive tests will surely go up as test kits become more readily available. Hopefully with iso things calm down.

  36. willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:03 pm

    Guillermo Mota sighting, after Yonder Alonso crushed 2 rum HR to deep RCF knocking Bum out in 6th.
    Pads also had Logan Forsythe playing 2b and Chase Headley, with 29 HRs and 107 rbis at 3b.

  37. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:07 pm

    There was a virus going ’round; papa caught it, and he died last spring;
    And now mama doesn’t seem to want to do much of anything…

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:11 pm

      mama said to me child what’s happened to your appetite
      I been cooking all morning and you haven’t touched a single bite

  38. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:10 pm

    Breaking news from Wolf Blitzer:

    The death toll in the U.S. is only going to rise…

  39. willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:21 pm

    You almost never see this play work but…Giants have runners on 1b and 3b with 1 out. Pads reliever fakes to 3b looks at 1b and Pagan had taken off and stopped was gonna be dead meat but the guy threw the ball in the dirt, run scored Pagan luckily safe at 2b.Then Scutaro gets his third single of night and drives him in.
    Pads bring in Nick Vincent–is this the guy the Giants had?

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:46 pm

      Pads drafted Vincent out of Long Beach St 2008, previously played at Palomar College San Marcos and he was rookie for them 2012.

  40. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    If the story’s true, Diane Feinstein deserves to die in prison…

    • willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:54 pm

      um it’s not. She was NOT in the meetings that took place Jan 24 of the Intelligence Committee classified briefing. And had already sold off some stocks earlier on Jan 13.
      According to Chron, “The stock subsequently rose (!) in value, peaking in March.”

      • willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 5:58 pm

        from today’s Chron: “Feinstein said her husband sold shares in a cancer therapy company that ‘is unrelated to any work on the coronavirus and the sale was unrelated to the situation.’ “

      • djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 6:10 pm

        Oops

      • willedav said, on March 21, 2020 at 7:38 pm

        funny enough maybe but I think most California Democrats have as much animosity for Feinstein as other side does. And wouldn’t have an issue with her getting some grief/closer investigation of what happened here.

  41. zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    Loo, would Italy’s death rate due to the virus be more compelling to you? About 800 Italians died in the last 24 hours from the virus.
    The tactics and strategies being done in the U.S. now are being done to avoid becoming another Italy, despite Trump’s horrible performance during all of this.

    • alleykat69 said, on March 21, 2020 at 8:03 pm

      Italy has far more older population then China even though a lot smaller.And they still allowed their borders open for traveling way past first learning of the virus, so pretty stupid not controlling the situation quicker imo …

      • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 9:31 pm

        And our president spent two months calling the whole thing a hoax.

  42. djloo27 said, on March 21, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    Yes Zumie. Those numbers are obviously far more alarming. I was just repeating what I saw on CNN.
    They also said 56% of Americans now approve Trump’s handling of the crisis…

    • alleykat69 said, on March 21, 2020 at 8:08 pm

      56% is the same number Governor Gavin Newsome is saying could be infected In California..
      Hmmm56% approval rate 56% infected rate now that’s some equal balance!!

    • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 9:29 pm

      Historically, 56% support for a U.S. President’s handling of a crisis is low. It’s usually 70% or higher.
      Bush, Sr. had a 90% approval of his handling of the Gulf War. It didn’t get him re-elected.

      • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 9:35 pm

        But, still, 56% of Americans thinking Trump is handling this crisis well is a damning indictment of the attention span of most Americans. Trump literally just started taking this thing semi-seriously in the last couple of weeks.

      • zumiee said, on March 21, 2020 at 9:41 pm

        There is a tendency for the American people to want to rally around a president during a crisis. But….there is a shelf life to that. At some point Americans realized Hoover was all happy talk and lies about the Depression.
        On the other hand, Bush, Jr. rode the Iraq War to re-election before it completely fell apart. Timing is everything.

    • alleykat69 said, on March 21, 2020 at 10:41 pm

      Yes Social Distancing!
      Who knew The Beatles were so far ahead of the curve even back then..

  43. zumiee said, on March 22, 2020 at 7:00 am

    Today the Giants TV network is playing 3 Giants games in a row, starting at 4 PM Pacific Time.
    The Heston no-hitter, and then the two Lincecum no-hitters.

  44. willedav said, on March 22, 2020 at 7:50 am

    got a nice phone call from young guy I used to coach in travel ball and who has helped me coach in past. Said I was on his list of people to stay in touch with and he’d call back too. He is part time teacher and assistant HS b-ball coach here who is out of job and also coaches a travel ball team in spring, and all their tournaments have been cancelled through May.
    Really nice thought, told him I much appreciated hearing from him say hi to parents and his brother (whom I also coached) and rest of his family.
    I should probably at least email or text people I haven’t heard from in awhile too.

  45. alleykat69 said, on March 22, 2020 at 7:50 am

    It’s amazing how a guy like Chris Heston could have is “One Shining Moment” when his whole career stunk after that.12-11 in 2015 177 IP (with the no no) 1-2 in 3 more seasons like 15 innings pitched total finish up at 13-13…

    • willedav said, on March 22, 2020 at 7:52 am

      Does seem to be a thing about no nos. Guys have one tremendous day/rest of career not so much.
      Didn’t a guy for A’s, Mike warren throw one near end of season? Hardly ever heard from again iirc.

    • zumiee said, on March 22, 2020 at 7:59 am

      Ed Halicki is a classic example. Turns out BF and I were both at that game in the 1970s. It was the second game of a doubleheader. The Mets won the first game. Kingman, with the Mets at the time, hit 2 HRs in game 1.

      • Flavor said, on March 22, 2020 at 8:12 am

        Halicki was no Heston. 7 year career, 3.62 career ERA. New thread btw


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