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Yesterday was a great thread, one of my favorites in a long time. 186 comments is pretty normal for a game day/night thread but without any game it’s pretty impressive that we got that much traffic. It’s a sign that Flappers are coming together during this dark, unprecedented time.
Isolation is becoming a real problem. At best, boredom sets in. At worst, it can play tricks on your mind. The Flap will always be here for anyone who needs a break from the quarantine of their thoughts. I don’t think we’re going to see sports for a while. And I do believe this is going to get a lot worse before we emerge on the other side. Some day, this is going to end.
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Flav – I have thanked you many times for keeping this site up and running, and I want to thank you again.
I met you and others back on The Splash (SF Chron), and then you stood-up this site. It has changed over the years (anyone else remember the early days with the masses of naked ladies – I know this was not appreciated by Zumiee, and maybe others, but it was a transition time).
Anyway, I have met so many cool people through this site, some of you in person (including some of our Right Coast brothers). I cannot tell you all how much I appreciate this place, and the opportunity it presents for us to all share our thoughts on sports, and life.
These are unprecedented and crazy times. This too shall pass.
Make it an awesome day, Flap Universe. Be safe, and stay healthy.
mm nice pic Flav thx.
Couple trivia things came up last night on re broadcast of Johnny Sanchez no no 2009.
First, they showed clip of last previous no hitter by Giant before that.
So who caught last out in that game?
Rightfielder? Bobby Mercer?
Banner seen at Yankee Stadium circa 1970:
“For Better Or Worser – We Love Bobby Murcer”
I post the same thing every time Murcer is mentioned here.
It’s like a reflex.
I did recently buy his awesome 1975 SF road jersey (#20).
I just got no place to wear it to…
“early days with the masses of naked ladies – I know this was not appreciated by Zumiee, and maybe others”
The concern was about if people check out the Flap at work.
NSFW….Not Safe For Work
Or NSFW….Not Safe For Wife also.
🙂
Yes Zum now tell me you weren’t watching when they ran the clip last night. smiley face goes here
Didn’t remember anything at all about that one myself and I would not have known answer. The Count near end of 1976 season, at ATL. Krukow said something about last Giants no hitter at home, must have been Halicki, right?
Now we’ve cleared that up, the other one concerned Sandoval who was having tremendous season hitting .330 at that time in July 2009 but was not gonna be in AS game. so the question was what Giant had the highest BA and yet was not selected for AS game? This one is hard I’ll try and think of hint that wouldn’t give it away.
Dan Gladden?
Robby Thompson or Matt Williams?
I caught this on CNBC. apparantly baseball unions had met last night and Manfred has been given the authority to restart spring training mid-May and have the season start end of Maybor early June. My guess (hope) would then be off just a month.
The concept would be 144 game season and playoffs beginning in October with extra wild card teams. This is obviously a best case scenario but hard to see them playing 144 games. I would have the season start in FL and AZ to make travel on teams easiest as possible for maybe June for the first 30 games and then would be a roughly 67 game home season. Obviously they are looking at that double header idea and i think that 7 inning idea for the 2nd game would be interesting…
He was an OF but no not disco danny. I was surprised at rebroadcast game to see Adrian Gonzalez playing RF for Pads. A funny play happened on a fly ball hit by the Prez into corner right up against seats. AGon is running over toward stands for it and a fan standing up reaches up and grabs it right before AGon can get there and then runs away laughing. they were face to face as AGon reached for it but the other guy was just up higher. Black protested but disallowed and Prez grounded 3 hopper up the middle for his second hit of the night
fact checked a few things on a site nonohitters.com. Yes Halicki threw last one at home before Cain and Lincecum. 3 of the last 5 no hitters by Giants have come vs. Padres.
Who btw have never thrown one in their entire history. According to the site, June 1 2012 when Johan Santana threw one for Mets that ended drought for them totaling 8,019 games and left Pads on the clock.
Also, since San Diego was in the PCL before, there were 3 thrown by them as a AAA team. One was by a guy who had originally been with New York and SF Giants, Al Worthington in 1961 when White Sox were affiliated with Pads.
The last one was 1962 Aug 14 thrown by Sammy Ellis when SD was Reds affiliate.
They almost had one.
Read all about it…
https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/24be38aa
thx Loo. Man what a story poor guy couldn’t catch a break.
Von Joshua?
In the broadcast last night when Kuiper referred to the “late” Bobby Murcer that jarred me. I had forgotten that he had passed away.
I’m guessing ET call home, Willie McGee.
Watching the no hitters and perfect game has been great. The different personal dynamics is one of the most interesting parts to me. Sanchez’s dad seeing him perform for the first time as a pro, Cain’s awkward interactions with his wife who seemed sort of bewildered by the whole thing and of course Lincecum just of out on an island for both of his. Was there anyone from his personal life there either time?
No to Von Joshua. hint—he did begin his career in AL.
Not sure I understand the question.
Was he leading the league in hitting at the break?
I remember Rowand was hitting for average anyway when he first began with SF…
no to ET. Not sure if he was leading league at the time Loo but his BA was way up there so it wouldn’t surprise me. the year in question he didn’t have enough ABs to qualify but would have wound up top 5.
Lofton?
If cancelling the season meant preventing the SmelLA Flodgers from winning a world series and then losing Mookie Betts as a free agent I may be all for it…
there ya go, this baseball season is effectively over.
Can’t wait for the masses to say they will now boycott baseball because the “overpaid crybaby millionaire players”want to get paid and not have to work. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump is the first to tweet this.
I would assume they are still being paid unless there is some type of “act of god” exclusion in their contract. It’s not like this is a union related work stoppage.
Agreement I read about on MLBTR seemed to say that service will be reset to level of games/days player had in 2019, should this season not happen. That would make guys like Mookie Betts immediate FA also A’s Marcus Semien if no new deal is worked out. Shorten Kris Bryant window too.
Harvey Kuenn?
969 Italians died of the coronavirus in the last 24 hours.
The U.S. total will pass 1,500 today.
Baseball ain’t happening this season.
Answer is Ellis Burks in 2000. Kruk said he was hitting .363 at AS break but didn’t get in. He wound up hitting .344 that season with an OPS of over 1.000 (like Bonds and Kent). fwiw Todd Helton that year led the NL at .372. Burks would have been right behind Bad Vlad at .345 but not quite enough PAs.
Checked out OFs who did play for NL AS: Vlad Edmonds Sosa Steve Finley Andruw Jones Sheffield Brian Giles
Jeffrey Hammonds.
Damn, that was going to be my next guess.
Giants put up hella offensive numbers that season. 9 different guys hit double figure HRs, 14 from Bobby Estallela and 10 from Armando Rios. Burks drove in 96, runs same as JT Bonds 106 Kent 125. As a team they hit 226 HRs. Burks slugging was .600. Beautiful high finish swing too cool player.
Yeah I dug Ellis Burks, he had a powerful swing but always in control with it, and a swagger of confidence! I kinda wished Reggie Sanders and Burks could of been Giants together for a season, that would of been extra awesomeness!!
Wow Bobby Estalla (sp) nice pull Willied, definitely a juicer, but I still liked him for his toughness behind the plate, shit I bet many players didn’t want to take him on at home plate since he was built like Mr.Universe at the time..
Another thing I’ve posted 10 times – can’t help myself.
Ellis Burks admitted in an interview that this was his favorite song.
I have zero problem with that…
I’ve got no problem with that song either Loo!
I knew Ellis Burks had class and rhythm, that song proves it lol 😂
Yes I like the pic Flav..
The lighthouse calm ocean start for the Andrea Gail leaving before “The Perfect Storm” later wrecks havocs on those Closterman fishing men!
Kinda like the “Perfect Virus” ravishing thru every part of the world wrecking havoc thru it’s path of illness and deaths…
“14 from Bobby Estallela”
The classic case of a fringe player who felt he had nothing to lose by juicing.
Holy shit, DJ> Always thought that was a chick singing that song.
They called him Chestellela iirc. He and Santiago were fully loaded.
OSF, be careful with this. I’m sure you are, but you are on the front line of this and it is taking a toll on doctors and nurses and hospital personnel everywhere. I haven’t heard about PPE shortages in the Bay Area, but I have no idea. The shortages of things doesn’t seem to be as big a deal here as elsewhere, but I haven’t been to the hospital lately and I haven’t heard of bed shortages or equipment shortages. What is becoming obvious is a lot of people have this and don’t know it.
I read today that they opened a test facility in Hayward, and 25% of the people tested came back positive. Hence the SIP needs to be in place for at least another month.
Hey unca, yes there are equipment shortages. Particularly N-95 masks, surgical masks, gloves, and disinfectant wipes. I’m particularly worried about the shortage of the cleaning wipes, I am an ultrasound tech and we need those to clean our equipment. In particular I’m a cardiac ultrasound tech and our faces are about 24 inches from the patient’s face. So yeah not having masks really sucks too. A feature of the covid-19 disease process is the force is the heart’s pumping action is significantly reduced. An ultrasound is one of the fastest and easiest ways to evaluate this, so we’re about to get very busy. It’s pretty scary. But there’s a national shortage of supplies, i don’t know how this gets rectified without lots of people getting sick. Our leadership suspects that we’re about a week or so behind New York in terms of patient surge.
Speaking of fishermen, Primus sucks!
Opened for Primus that first week when BG reopened the Fillmore.
Some newer Claypool stuff. That singer sure sounds familiar.
(yes, it’s Sean Lennon)
Very nice! Thanks!
Chuck, I’m treating this like an alien invasion. I’m heavily engaged with Fred Meyer remote pick-up or delivery. It’s overloaded and doesn’t work well. But…..
GOOD and BAD NEWS, Flappers:
The Good News:
In USA Today they had a story on the 1961 board game, the Strat-O-Matic. Updated rosters, simulated games, a web site (strat-o-matic.com). Everything a sports-starved fan like BF could want!!
The Bad News:
Opening day the Dodgers beat the Giants 10-3. Sigh.
Yep. Beats the alternative . . .
Gladden was hitting .377 at the break in 1984.
The problem was only 53 ABs (20 hits)…
So long, Santa Anita.
GG probably next.
Gulfstream will wait to get their big day in tomorrow…
hope so. Let’s go out with a bang.
I don’t know what I’d do without strippers with Venmo. NSFBB. Not safe for baseball blogs.
The doofus guy who is British Prime Minister has the virus.
I think even Prince Albert stuck in a can for years has Coronavirus now…
“ESPN NBA broadcaster Doris Burke, a Curt Gowdy Award recipient by the Basketball Hall of Fame for excellence in her field, has revealed that she tested positive for the coronavirus.”
I had a big problem with Gowdy because he blatantly rooted for the Raiders when they played the Chiefs in the old AFL. He also called the Christmas Day ’71 nightmare Chief-Dolphin double OT playoff game. He got some well deserved abuse for constantly referring to it as “sudden victory overtime” instead of “sudden death.”
Even as a kid I was wondering what the fuck was wrong with him. Did he not know the term?
He used to host a hunting show, too. He’d be tromping through the woods with Ted Williams or someone else. Seemed like a pretty lame show.
Seemed like there was no avoiding Gowdy and Keith Jackson in those days.
They were everywhere…
Yeah didn’t Gowdy even host Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf 🏌️♀️ Back in the 70’s?One on One matches with the likes of Player/Nicklaus/Palmer/Watson competing..