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Re-Starting The World

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 1, 2020

Just to be crystal clear I understand how dangerous the threat of Covid 19 is to the entire world. I completely support and commend everyone in the country for sacrificing their various levels of freedom and livelihood to flatten the curve of this virus. So when I share pictures like this one, I’m not doing it to suggest some type of conspiracy theory. I just think there is an additional story to be told other than the one we hear from CNN and other news organization all day long.

Screenshot 2020-05-01 at 7.58.44 AM

This is a pic I took on my run through Stanford campus yesterday. It’s a make shift testing center that popped up about a month ago across the street from Stanford Stadium–there are 3 other tents to the left you can’t see. This is where the line of cars would be if there was anyone lined up for testing (the nurse greeting would-be testees is in the red shirt near the middle right of the photo). And this isn’t a one-off, the most I’ve ever seen at this location is 2 cars in line.

Yesterday I noted that there was 1 patient in the Stanford ICU suffering from caronavirus and today I posted this pic. Mostly, I’m just looking for some new relevant content in this new sports-free world we’re living in. But I am definitely now on the side of beginning to re-open parts of the country with safe practices still in place. That doesn’t make me a Trump supporter or like one of those lunatics who stormed the Michigan state house. I just don’t think it’s realistic for the entire country to hide in their houses for the next several months when we could be getting back out there cautiously and safely….

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  1. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:18 am

    We’ll find out soon enough. Texas, GA, and a bunch of other states are easing restrictions. By the 14th we’ll see what the spike is. Some counties (forex Contra Costa) are allowing golf and tennis and other outdoor activities.

    • Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:28 am

      what’s your policy on masks? I wear them inside of stores but not outside. I think everyone should be required by law to wear them inside public places. If they can’t be provided by the user then the stores should give them out. And we need more garbage/recycle cans for the used masks/gloves.

      • willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:33 am

        It will be interesting to see policy on that once things do start to reopen, even in smaller venues. Saw something on airports where they might have protection for everyone as you come in and also way less contact with id and other info by eye recognition.

      • xoot said, on May 1, 2020 at 9:53 am

        I wonder about unmasked joggers who closely blow by pedestrians. Few weeks ago, I heard rapid steps approaching from behind. A beautiful young woman hauled ass past me, providing at least 15 feet of room. The sunny air was warm. The bandana over her face was probably the largest piece of clothing she had on. Made my morning.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 10:51 am

        When I walk around with the dogs I don’t wear them. But I will say I steer clear of people ooutdoors. 10′ at the least.

  2. zumiee said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:32 am

    “hide in their houses”

    All them cowards hiding in their houses for five weeks. It’s time to look that virus square in the…..well, I guess it doesn’t have eyes; it just has all those suction-cup things all over it, but I digress.
    It’s time to bust through, take the hill, and send that virus running away in fear!

    • willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:35 am

      fear is key word here…living in constant fear of what might be out there isn’t healthy either for man or beast.

    • Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:42 am

      Zumiee that’s as bad of a take as the Trump supporter takes. Seriously, it’s not ALL OF NOTHING. Nobody is saying to “look the virus square in the eye…” etc. Open up with safe practices in place. It’s the prudent thing to do and the right thing to do.

  3. Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:35 am

    another thing I do: I bought like literally 60 lysol wipe canisters just as all this started going down and I wanted to be prepared–I actually have a shit load of everything, wipes, tons of toilet paper, paper towels, 6 huge bleach containers, etc…So anyway, I’ve always got a lysol canister in my car and I wipe down my hands with a few sheets of that after I visit any store–that could be 3-4 times over the course of an hour. Do you guys think that is a health hazard after a certain time? Lol, lysol wipes probably aren’t good for the skin….

  4. willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:40 am

    Sifting through something else to read found this: “Traveling 3 Months on the NBA Road” by John Nordahl. What he did late 1994-1995 was to take road trip around America and see NBA game in every arena in the league at that time.

    got me to wondering, how many arenas have Flappers attended to see NBA game? For me it’s 4:
    SF Civic
    Cow Palace (interesting oxymoron there)
    Oakland Coliseum
    San Diego Sports Arena

    • Macdog said, on May 1, 2020 at 9:23 am

      Rutgers Athletic Center
      Brendan Byrne Arena/Continental Airlines Arena/Izod Center
      MSG
      Spectrum
      Wells Fargo Center
      Boston Garden
      Cap Centre
      Baltimore Civic Center
      Richfield Coliseum
      Market Square Arena
      McNichols
      Arco
      Oakland Coliseum
      Veterans Memorial Coliseum

      • willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 9:37 am

        Impressive Mac! Thought you might have more than anyone else. Btw, the book guy had Cap Centre as one of worst.

      • willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 9:42 am

        he did like the Spectrum but didn’t feel Philly fans were into 76ers as much as they were into hockey. Common theme he mentions is some arenas seating more hockey friendly (little further away) than for basketball.

    • Macdog said, on May 1, 2020 at 9:48 am

      A former co-worker who went to U. of Maryland used to call the Cap Centre the Pringle chip, haha. Yeah, Flyers games at Spectrum were always a bigger draw, never saw a hockey game there, a minor regret.

  5. Winder said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:49 am

    I can’t afford to take chances with this virus since there are only two people in our household and both with underlying medical conditions. i do believe that opening the country slowly is the best way to do it so just in case it doesn’t work the damage may be limited. To me the most dangerous aspect of the next 6 months is that Trump will get elected President again and that the Senate will remain in GOP control. If that is the case we will be in deep shit. That includes the rednecks that vote for him too. IMO.

    • Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:53 am

      totally fair take. I wouldn’t advocate, for instance, that my dad start cruising around town again. And I agree the Trump thing is a legit concern, I do think he’s going to get elected again whether he cheats or just refuses to leave because he claims the votes have been compromised.

  6. Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:57 am

    • James said, on May 1, 2020 at 9:34 am

      I’ve told this one before . . . in the early 90s we lived in N. Oakland in a Queen Anne Victorian that functioned as a duplex. My son was born there. One afternoon while we were out, someone knocks on the door and asks if he can look around the house for a few minutes, it was his old family home. Our housemates let him in, he asked if they were baseball fans (nope), but the other family in the duplex had a passing interest. I would have loved to have thanked him for that season. I remember it very well.

    • djloo27 said, on May 1, 2020 at 10:27 am

      Wish they’d bring back those uniforms, even if just as an alternate.
      San Dawg agrees…

  7. xoot said, on May 1, 2020 at 9:32 am

    UC makes a great point — in Calif. we’re going to have the benefit of watching other states eff up while we continue to control the spread here. That info should promote good decisions, help avoid disastrous ones.

    According to Stanford Health’s website, it’s not easy to get tested there. Depends on doctor’s orders and so forth. Let’s hope the testing capacity and the system for tracking contacts is huge and able to handle the rising tide as things are open up.

    And things are opening up. With luck, my older son may not get laid off. (His company closed some of their offices around the country, permanently, yesterday and laid off over 30 people.)

    Meanwhile, my neighbor the country club has worked like hell on its greens, fairways, etc. this week. I’ll bet some duffers show up tomorrow. I’ve enjoyed walking and jogging through the empty spaces lately.

    Question for golfers: this nearby club has a long list of rules (I’ve been a guest a few times) but they prominently advertise two, assuming that you’ll get the message: (1) no cellphones, anywhere — not in the club, not by the pools or courts, not on the course, not even in the parking lot — none; and (2) no denim, of any color. Are all country clubs that tight-ass? I’m sure that over the years clients have called me while they were playing a round of golf.

  8. Bozo said, on May 1, 2020 at 10:23 am

    It seems to me that re-opening the country has so many different meanings, both political and by defenition. Do you open the schools back up? Some say yeah and others say no, how about restaurants, bars, amateur sports? Because of politics and/or different SIP orders, what works for North Carolina might not work for say California and it’s not just State to State, the one size fits all approach may not even work between counties or even by towns/cities.
    I live in a county that has a full time residency of 50,000 or there abouts, that amount can jump up to around 500,000 in the summer as families rent homes to be at the beach. In an effort to close the beaches they closed our county. Am I looking forward to the doors just being flung open for us? No, probably not. But the majority of our jobs are tourist related so I guess that would be on the table. Except some of those jobs, restaurant, day care etc still may not be there or might be completely different. I mean if I was a waiter do I now want to be a food delivery guy? if I had kids, without schools or daycare can I go back to work? If my job was cleaning the rental homes or motels…yeesh.
    I guess for me, I just want to see specific plans/proposals with pros and cons and more testing available before opening my little neck of the world up.

    • zumiee said, on May 1, 2020 at 10:45 am

      Interesting thoughts, Bozo.
      Chris Cuomo on CNN makes the point that we can see how a politician REALLY feels about how serious the virus is by what they say about schools. No politician wants to be responsible for students getting sick with the virus.

    • willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 10:48 am

      definitely true about different areas that are more tourist inundated. Santa Cruz had big influx of beachgoers due to 80 degree weather last weekend, most unwelcome by law enforcement. Some parks opened up lately but still I think you can only drive 10 miles max. How would I feel in a town visited by outsiders from Silicon Valley?

      Listening to the late Roy Hargrove big band set very nice. So much great music at Jazz Festing in Place thx again for tip.

      • Bozo said, on May 1, 2020 at 11:31 am

        No prob, Willied. Glad you’re enjoying it. We are too but also missing it big time. It has been cool to hear some stuff that I was at. A lot of good stuff today, listening to Aaron Neville while looking forward to Paul Sanchez , the Blind Boys and ending it up with Fess from 1974. Time for a rum punch? Hmm.

  9. zumiee said, on May 1, 2020 at 10:50 am

    BF, my point is that reopening things has to take into account the yahoos that are not going to do things the right way. It’s not about living in fear, it’s about sharing the nation with the Fox News-bubble crowd who can be counted on to do things that are wrong regarding the science of the virus.

    • Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 12:01 pm

      well, we were always sharing the nation with those people. Part of it depends on where you choose to live. I am very confident that I live in a community of intelligent people who will respect the social distancing rules. And if the Yahoos fuck up and start fucking up large sections of the country then we’ll be locked down again. Let’s see how stupid they are. My gut feeling is they just want shit to open back up so they can start working again and they will respect the new guidelines. But, we shall see, we shall see….

  10. zumiee said, on May 1, 2020 at 10:54 am

    Dr. Fauci is no help. He’s sent so many mixed signals in the last week that the water is hopelessly muddied. And that’s how Trump the gaslighter likes it.

  11. zumiee said, on May 1, 2020 at 10:58 am

    Add Fauci’s and Birx’s integrity to the list.

  12. zumiee said, on May 1, 2020 at 11:07 am

    “How would I feel in a town visited by outsiders from Silicon Valley?”

    And here come the Central Valley folk for a day in the Bay Area. Yee haw! 🙂

    • willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 11:36 am

      what I meant Zum was, concern for the Santa Cruz people inundated by those from inland hotspots such as San Jose and suburbs trying to get out and about for a day, and not wearing masks. Even if recreational activities get relaxed, gotta feel for those in outlying areas suddenly surrounded by tourists.

  13. alleykat69 said, on May 1, 2020 at 11:10 am

    Xoot,
    I belong to a golf club in the Bay Area though I’m not playing now due to my wait for my hip replacement.There not playing Golf right now because most of the clubs on the schedule are still closed.I do however believe the cellphone band on the courses should not be banned.A few years ago one of my buddies in are foursome had a medical emergency on the course and it was at the farthest point from The clubhouse, and luckily because we had are phones we called the clubhouse and received immediate help.Turned out he had a reaction to his meds he was taking and he was ok after assistance.So yes even kept in your golf bag a phone is needed imo..

  14. Stan Shell said, on May 1, 2020 at 11:32 am

    BF, I share your concern, however, I can afford to be more cautious- -money-wise and age. The thing that is in everyone’s face is that Faucci’s rules for re-opening are being ignored>>>hyper testing and contact tracing. Trump is too stupid to understand these concepts, but why everyone else is ignoring them is puzzling.
    There is absolutely no one who disputes that physical distancing works. So we relax things. A few more people mingle and the infection will go up a bit. The more they mingle the more it will go up- -about two weeks later. A percentage of the population will interpret relaxation of rules as full stadiums, balls-to-the-wall, etc. = disaster. WE don’t have testing in place. If we did and discovered a percentage of the population is non-symptomatically infected, where do we put them? Not impossible problem but each state is going to set this up?

    My fear is that the infection goes from 1- 2- 3 deaths a day (Oregon) to something like 5 a day. The pressure builds to accept those numbers as acceptable and we open up the rest the economy. Then New Yorks start to pop up and we are back to mid-March all over again.

    I feel comfortable discussing how this virus will react in different social settings, however, I have no idea how long we can have blanket SIP without society collapsing and the deaths that would cause.

    Contrary to the Maga-hat wearers, caution does not equal chicken-shit.

  15. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 11:54 am

    My sister lives in Aptos and she said last week that 7 guys from San Jose each got a $1,000 ticket for congregating in front of a Quick Stop.

  16. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 11:57 am

    This is a guaranteed clusterfuck for the foreseeable future given that Trump has completely waffled on every decision that he could have made with this virus. This is not going to magically disappear this summer. It WILL survive if people are free to pass it around. Then it will come back with a vengeance in the fall along with the regular flu.

  17. Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 12:03 pm

    schools aren’t going to re-open till the fall. Teachers are still providing instruction (online) and delivering services. The teachers unions are strong, they aren’t going to cave to more work and same pay. All this talk about school re-opening now is nonsense (at least here in Ca)

  18. alleykat69 said, on May 1, 2020 at 12:07 pm

    There saying now this virus can hang around up to 2 years and more people need to be infected and treated to help find a cure..

    • Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 12:21 pm

      Not sure what you mean by a *cure*. We need better treatment at a minimum and even better would be a vaccine. treatment and a vaccine are both ahead of schedule right now. That doesn’t mean there won’t be set backs but there is positive news coming out of Oxford U about a vaccine.

  19. Stan Shell said, on May 1, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    Kat, should we set up a volunteer list for those willing to be infected so they can rec over and help us find a cure? Who is first to step up? Here’s your chance!
    BTW, I think it will linger essentially forever. Just like the flu. Pray for a vaccine.

    • alleykat69 said, on May 1, 2020 at 12:56 pm

      No I used the wrong word with Cure, I should of said Vaccine.
      And no I’ll pass being a guinea pig for testing.
      I have my own concerns just when if ever I will get my damm hip replaced.Before it was just a risk of infection like staph infection are other post op complications.Now with the virus I sure would like some kind of guarantee ( obviously not likely) I would not contact Covaid19 while getting my surgery!

  20. sandog said, on May 1, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    That Von Joshua card is bad ass. Saw that on Twitter and almost texted Flav to post that on here for James. Beat me to it.

    All 3 Sactown arenas–Arco 1, Arco 2, Golden One
    LA Forum
    LA Sports Arena
    LA Staples
    Oakland Coliseum
    Old Phoenix (aka Madhouse on McDowell)
    New Phoenix
    Clippers moved out of the San Diego Sports Arena just before I came down here in ’84. They played several NBA exhibitions at the SD Sports Arena since, but I don’t think I have ever gone.

    Golf courses opened up again down here today with lots of restrictions. Looking forward to my first round since August when I had to shut it down for my first of 2 hand surgeries.

    • Macdog said, on May 1, 2020 at 1:56 pm

      Forgot there was an Arco I, so just Arco II for me.

  21. xoot said, on May 1, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    Never underestimate the power of a free press. Or the oddity of the Florida Panhandle.

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

    • zumiee said, on May 1, 2020 at 3:10 pm

      Well, it is an effective way to make his point, you gotta give him that.

  22. zumiee said, on May 1, 2020 at 3:16 pm

    I don’t have a link but I saw video on the news today of people protesting the re-closure of Huntington Beach. A mass of people clumped together in a big crowd. A total non-social-distancing crap-show.

  23. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 3:29 pm

    Have y’all played the Florida Man game? Type ‘Florida Man’ and your birthday, and see what comes up.

  24. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    Let’s see.

    Oakland Coliseum
    Cow Palace
    SF Civic
    Arco
    ——————————————–
    Maples
    Haas
    McKeon Pavilion
    Whatever SJ State is called
    Whatever Santa Clara is called

  25. willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 4:14 pm

    Ha listening to “Fortune Teller” from 1974 Jazz Fest Alan Toussaint on piano what a great cut
    Stones did decent version of this too long time ago

    Those are impressive lists SD and Unc. Back in day Warriors used to play preseason game in San Jose just never went to one.

    • Bozo said, on May 1, 2020 at 4:49 pm

      Toussaint wrote Fortune Teller. Did you know he also wrote Java and Whipped Cream? TJB gets the award for one of the best album covers ever made for Whipped Cream imo.

      • willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 4:57 pm

        oh yeah one of my HS buddies had that lp. on wiki I saw nice pic of Bennie Spellman 45 version. I was looking up Stones r/b recordings, Good Times, Time is on My Side, I’ve been loving you too long, etc. I used to have lp with Otis doing Satisfaction too.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 5:27 pm

        Every parent I knew growing up had that album.

  26. alleykat69 said, on May 1, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    My Basketball establishments
    SF Civic
    Cow Palace
    Oakland Coliseum
    Arco
    Key Arena
    Kingdome
    Moeda ? Oregon
    Staples
    —————————
    USF Dons War Memorial
    Cal Bears Hass
    Santa Clara
    SJS
    UOP Stockton

  27. Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 4:48 pm

    people are so dumb. Look at this.

  28. snarkk said, on May 1, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    Yes the news on vaccine from Oxford is good.
    The Oxford Vaccine Group has studied corona viruses for years and made vaccines before, including MERS. They are a leg up on a lot of others. Hopefully theirs will work and be ready for manufacture this year. They did limited monkey studies on their Covid vaccine over the last 6-8 weeks. All the monkeys with no vaccine that were exposed to the virus got sick. All the ones with the vaccine got similarly exposed — and were fine after 28 days after first exposure. The biggest vaccine maker in India is already in process of making up to 40 million doses of it, just to be ahead of the game in case it proves to work in human trials — which have just started in the UK…

  29. Flavor said, on May 1, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    lol

  30. Macdog said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:03 pm

  31. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    “People are so dumb”. Yes, they certainly can be. Saw a short YouTube clip called “UDUMASS with George Clooney”, pretty funny if you haven’t seen it. I’m not gonna post the link here because I don’t know how to do the tiny url thing.

  32. willedav said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    Giants retro game from Sept 4 2013 @SD Padres. Lincecum (4.50 ERA) vs. Eric Stults
    box said 15 thou there for day game, doesn’t look like half that.

  33. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:26 pm

    Timmy’s throwing like 80n pitches in the 1at inning. What happens in this one?

    • zumiee said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:44 pm

      Sandoval hit 3 HRs.

  34. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:33 pm

    That’s pretty good, Paul! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5QI91aZFv0

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:47 pm

      Yeah that’s the one. Only $200 to educate 10 dumbasses that yes dinosaurs existed, but not at the same time as people. lulz

  35. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    Wasn’t someone here just talking about Trey Gunn? Weird. He just showed up in my facebook feed.

  36. unca_chuck said, on May 1, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    Ahhh comcast is showing one of those sim games. Giants vs Indians. Smargle vs Civale. They’ve already dragged in Amy G.


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