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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 29, 2020

Another day that doesn’t feel like a day to post about baseball or sports. Just a sad day in America, one of many we have suffered under the leadership of this sick, twisted and racist administration.

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  1. willedav said, on May 29, 2020 at 7:36 am

    Watching boxing last night I saw report MLB was prepared to go forward with the original prorated salary plan. Haven’t been able to find it anywhere online yet.
    Chi great news for your daughter’s hair salon.
    I’m interested too to see what happens locally once restaurants reopen. Neighbor works in a nice one; limiting capacity to 25% and with all new procedures (no contact ordering yada yada) she wonders how well they would do. Also her restaurant made good $$ off banquets and large gatherings which will likely still be prohibited here.

  2. Winder said, on May 29, 2020 at 7:53 am

    It’s amazing how Trumps schoolyard bully act energizes so many people. When in actuality no one truly pays attention to it except right wing nutjobs and the corporate guys rolling in the cash. Russia, China, and North Korea don’t seem to pay any attention to him. There is always some form of graft in every political administration but the GOP have taken it to a brand new level. I still thing America will prevail through all this but it’s gonna be a lot tougher than it should be.

    Finally became a subscriber to the Athletic yesterday and it seems to be a good move. With that and the Baseball digest I have some pretty good reading.

    • chipower9 said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:05 am

      I subscribed to the Athletic a couple of weeks ago, too. They had a special that was hard to pass-up. Great sports news.

      • Winder said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:00 am

        Yeah, i caught the last day half off special myself. It seemed like a good deal.

  3. chipower9 said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:04 am

    Thanks, WillieDav. My daughter is a hard-worker, and proud of the business she built (rightfully so – she has clients who LOVE her and adorn her with gifts for her BD and xmas). This reopening is a big deal for her.

    I don’t think I have ever shared this story here…will make it brief. When my kids were still in junior high (think my daughter was 13-14), we were having one of those “so, what do you want to be when you grow-up” conversations. My daughter always, without pause, said she wanted to be a hair stylist, and to one day own her own salon. Well,she did it, before she turned 30. I am really proud of her, and hope the reopening goes well.

    On baseball, I do not agree with Bor-ass getting involved in union business. What he does with his own clients is his business. But, when I read the article James shared (thanks, James), I could not agree more with much of what Boras said.

    I am the eternal optimist (although I ALWAYS temper my feelings with a good dose of reality), and hope the players and owners can work it out, and at least make a go at a season.

  4. xoot said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:06 am

    Chuck, glad to hear you and yours are reopening carefully, in time for summer. Good luck and stay safe. Here’s Ehrenberg’s original tweet, with its direct link, outside of Buster’s suggestive retweet.

  5. gianthead said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:09 am

    Hey when you say Administration you are counting me as a racist…sick and twisted ok but way below the belt to slander every single persom working within the Admin as a racist…MN in its entire state leadership are all Democrats so they all must be racists as well…

    • Winder said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:05 am

      gianthead- I don’t know if you were referring to me but No, I am not calling every republican a racist. I come from a long line of republicans and I know how many of them think. However people who vote for Trump should do some reflection just to see.

  6. xoot said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:18 am

    Last night trump threatened the rioters in Minn. (and elsewhere, implicitly) in a vicious, stupid tweet that concluded: “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.” (Twitter quickly slapped a violation of standards label on it — excellent.) That slogan comes from the old jim-crow handbook of racist invective and intimidation. It’s infamous. Know your place, boy. Click of the shotgun. That’s the issue I see.

    • gianthead said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:30 am

      So then why did the president Wed night express his sadness of the death of this victim and send in the DoJ and FBI??? Is looting and rioting somehow justified to the left to express themselves….anarchy is never justified.
      Throwing out taunts that people are racists is a reflection of simpleminded invective…nothing more. It is how children argue…

      • gianthead said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:31 am

        It is like Hurricane Katrina…Bush let the hurricane batter New Orleans because he hates black people. Thought this was a Giants fans site..

      • gianthead said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:35 am

        Trump got a higher percentage of the African-American vote than Romney, McCain or either Bush…those are the facts….there is a growing African-American conservative movement…oh that is right they must all be Uncle Toms…another leftist diatribe and canard…

      • Winder said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:19 am

        Pretty sure there would be a lot more talk about Giants baseball if there was any Giants baseball.. Right now there is a lot of serious stuff going on. What’s great about this country is that we still have free thinking. I still believe that most people believe what they want to believe no matter what. I believe this current administration is the most corrupt this country has ever seen and in the end it is gonna hurt the republican party.

        The President says a lot of things but are they true?

      • Bozo said, on May 29, 2020 at 10:58 am

        The major damage and loss of life in the city of New Orleans was mainly due to the failed Federal levees. And yes, the Bush administration was responsible for major funding cuts over the years to Corps projects like the Southeast Louisiana Flood Control Program and the Hurricane Protection Project. Those cuts hamstrung the Corps of Engineers from being able to strengthen/rebuild levees and upgrade the pump stations that also failed. I think the major funding cuts started back in 2001, four years before Katrina and the federal levee failures.
        Not to mention the very slow federal response to the disaster – “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.”, ring a bell?
        Was there racial bias in that administration’s handling of funds and relief? I don’t know, but I do know that administration fucked up big time to and for the people of New Orleans.

  7. xoot said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:08 am

    I think African American voters had extra incentive to turn out to vote for president in 2008 and 2012.

    trump is a racist. He openly appeals to racists and white supremacists. He has since he began to campaign as a birther.

  8. Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:15 am

    GH I’m not going to respond to your comments specifically, knocking down each one of them, I’d be here all day doing that. There are varying degrees of racism. Trump is at the top of it. I don’t expect you to agree with that or even understand it. Have a great day we don’t have to agree politically to be giants fans.

    • Winder said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:25 am

      Baseball is one thing that temporarily takes away all the bullshit and division we may have amongst ourselves. Baseball is like meditation with an attitude.

      • Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:26 am

        Sure. great description.

      • Winder said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:29 am

        And, that even applies to the stinking Dodgers and their fans.

    • chipower9 said, on May 29, 2020 at 10:01 am

      Agree, Flav. We all have a right to our opinions. If I do not agree with someone, hopefully we can respectfully agree to disagree. Violence and name-calling serves no positive purpose.

  9. Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:25 am

    And I probably shouldn’t have referred to the entire administration as racist. Although I don’t understand how anyone would willingly be part of it if they didn’t share similar beliefs as our president who is, without question or argument, a racist…..

    • willedav said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:42 am

      Not absolving the Incumbent, but xenophobia and warlike tendencies toward neighbors who are different seems to be an often fatal flaw in mankind in general going back thousands of years. certainly not limited to Western Europe either, even today.

  10. willedav said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:35 am

    Like others GH spent lot of time here on left coast before relocating. Attacking Tech giants is ongoing conservative talking point, and also a progressive thing too. I think it’s interesting how different parts of our large country can be. I wonder how those who live elsewhere feel about our great state and what they hear about California in general from those they live near now.

    I’ve been around many delightful people at work/b-ball with different accents (American and foreign born) and I find them quite enjoyable…while maintaining there is no such thing as a “California” accent. words phrases expressions–sure. accent-no.

  11. Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:39 am

    look, I don’t agree with looting but I understand it. MLK once said, basically, “the greatest stumbling block to true freedom isn’t the KKK but the white moderate who is more devoted to order than justice.” It’s the same reason re-construction didn’t work after the Civil War. The North finally just said “fuck it, we freed you, what else do you want?”
    I’m not trying to give a history lesson here but anyone who doesn’t understand the core essence of where looting comes from has his (or her) head in the sand on this shit.

  12. unca_chuck said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:53 am

    GH, why does Trump wear a mask at the Ford plant and then call mask-wearing a political statement?

    Why do Trump and his staff vote by mail and then want to deny that right to everyone else?

    Why does Trump call white supremacists ‘good people’ when they riot but call blacks ‘thugs’ when they riot?

    Why does Trump attack Twitter and Facebook when they were explicitly used by Trump to get elected?

    I could go on for days inn this vein, but you get the point. Trump is a master of playing to his base and obfuscating the current reality to appoint ultra-conservative judges, clear the way for him and his cronies to tax the middle class, create division and anger among the rank and file to hide this fact, and give corporate America more and more power to oppress the very people who work for their companies.

    Trump professes to be for the working class, but has done NOTHING for them. Fucking ridiculous that this guy can garner support from anyone other than the ultra rich.

    Everyone and everything he touches turns to shit. How many of his lawyers have gone to jail?

  13. unca_chuck said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:59 am

    Martin Luther King was never for advocating violence, and his passive protests were usually met with his arrest, but he certainly understood what they meant in the grand scheme of things.

    “Let me say as I’ve always said, and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. … But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again.”

    – Martin Luther King – 1967

  14. Winder said, on May 29, 2020 at 10:14 am

    I haven’t been on this blog very long but one thing I like is that i haven’t heard any vicious words against anyone here. Long way from the Splash.

  15. xoot said, on May 29, 2020 at 10:31 am

    Sure would be interesting to hear from our North Country Minnesota flapper.

    • chipower9 said, on May 29, 2020 at 10:54 am

      I am going to call him either later today, or tomorrow, and check-in with him. One of the things I plan to ask him is if he has any apprehensiveness in coming onto the site, and if so, what fuels those thoughts. I want to ensure him that no one is going to be judgmental, and that everyone (well, the ones who matter anyway 😉 ) really would love to hear from him, here. Have a good day, brother.

  16. willedav said, on May 29, 2020 at 10:56 am

    May 29 2017 was the Strick Harper meltdown. What a waste of space that guy was.

    • djloo27 said, on May 29, 2020 at 1:12 pm

      On JFK’s 100th birthday…

  17. Stan Shell said, on May 29, 2020 at 11:36 am

    GH, we are all Giants fans here, however, “this administration” is not the typical Clinton/Obama admin, nor is it like Bush I/Bush II. It is uniquely destructive to established norms and civility. With his partner, Mitch, he is given an unprecedented free access to tear everything down with zero fear of any legal action. Trump’s bizarre response to the virus is just the cherry on the cake! Included in the cake contents were Iran deal (now zero agreement), Paris Climate accord (zero replacement), relationship with our major training partner and debt holder, China (relationship TBD), and on and on.
    The most serious charge that any of us could level at Trump would be that he will try to keep office even if the Electoral College votes him out. I am willing to say that I think he will to anyone who will listen. If he does that makes him a traitor. Let’s see.

    OSF

  18. unca_chuck said, on May 29, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Trump cuts ties with the WHO. Brilliant. Such a leader. And his sound and fury regarding China signifies nothing.

    • djloo27 said, on May 29, 2020 at 1:20 pm

      He better not do that to Led Zeppelin…

      • eddacker said, on May 29, 2020 at 1:31 pm

        absolutely right, I was listening to my Led Zep cassette in my ’94 pickup just yesterday. Trump can keep his hands off.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 29, 2020 at 2:45 pm

        Overrated . . .

  19. unca_chuck said, on May 29, 2020 at 2:45 pm

    i can’t believe that Twitter doesn’t just shut down Twitler’s account.

    He tweets to his base, and talks to the rest of the people. Hence the “Looters brings shooters” comment last night. He’ll talk platitudes to the rest of this, but the tweets are always directed to the base.

  20. unca_chuck said, on May 29, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    I kid, but I OD’ed on Zep in the 70s. Presence and Physical Graffiti are the only albums I like these days. Mainy cuz there aren’t any huge hits on either. Kashmir notwithstanding.

  21. djloo27 said, on May 29, 2020 at 3:03 pm

    • Bozo said, on May 29, 2020 at 4:09 pm

      Little Roger and the Goosebumps doing Stairway to Gilligan’s Island
      https://tinyurl.com/yaxqu3o3

    • alleykat69 said, on May 29, 2020 at 4:43 pm

      That was rockin awesome for all ages!
      The Wilson sisters truly are remarkable!
      Nancy Wilson’s voice still is legendary,and Ann to an amazing guitarist!
      Led Zeppelin guys were in tears practically admiring how well Heart and the whole orchestra pulled Stair Way to Heaven off.Added bônus Jason Bonham on drums is icing on the cake!!

      • djloo27 said, on May 29, 2020 at 5:16 pm

        Glad you liked it, Kat.
        It really gets me when they show the guys reacting to it.
        And the Obamas to boot!

  22. Winder said, on May 29, 2020 at 3:14 pm

  23. alleykat69 said, on May 29, 2020 at 4:20 pm

    What a mess on highway 101 southbound just before the junction splits in San Jose as protesters block the freeway in protest of George Floyd!
    Oh now they’re moving off the freeway but nobody will be driving on it for awhile. .
    Hey I don’t mind protesting but do it in downtowns not blocking traffic, when they’re could be an emergency situation for some people..

    • Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 5:58 pm

      i hear you but it’s more effective when you block a highway. During times like these it’s best to either stay at home or get out there and join them. I’m staying at home.

  24. zumiee said, on May 29, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    “Nancy Wilson’s voice still is legendary,and Ann to an amazing guitarist!”

    At the risk of sounding like a picky twit, it’s Ann’s voice, and Nancy on guitar. 🙂
    But I totally agree, the Wilson sisters are awesome. I’ve been a big fan since day 1 of their music getting played on radio. They’ve done some other amazing cover versions, too. They are just so immensely talented.
    A few years ago, they had a falling out and weren’t talking to each other for a good while, but they’ve mended things and are working together again.

    • Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 6:05 pm

      Heart is one of my favorite bands. Back in high school I wrote for the paper, The Campanile. I wrote hundreds of articles, I actually was the editor in chief senior year (Esther Wojcicki was my journalism teacher, you might know her name). Of everything I wrote the biggest reaction I got was to the headline of the concert review I wrote for Heart at the Oakland Coliseum. Stevie Nicks showed up in the middle of the show (surprise!). The show was good but got better with her there. The headline I wrote: “Nicks Performs Heart Surgery”.
      It fucking killed, man, it killed. I was king of the campus that day, everyone was talking about that article.

      • Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 6:10 pm

        hey, it was 1985, the bar for attention was low.

      • zumiee said, on May 29, 2020 at 6:55 pm

        It is a great headline. 🙂

  25. Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 6:42 pm

    i would have smoked the shit out of this pitch either left or right handed, I bat both. But this is a great quality video.

    • snarkk said, on May 29, 2020 at 6:55 pm

      I wonder if his cousin ran Panzer divisions in North Africa about 10 years later?…

    • djloo27 said, on May 29, 2020 at 7:14 pm

      Off the top of my head, I can’t think of an SF Giant who regularly threw the knuckler.
      Hoyt Wilhelm goes back to the NY days…

  26. snarkk said, on May 29, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    Cops across this nation have gunned down nearly 1000 unarmed Americans every year for the past 5 years or so. This is from running totals recorded by the Wash Post annually. That’s unarmed Americans. They’re shot running from cops, standing in front of them, laying down, being in a car, waving a knife 20 feet away, yelling at them with no weapon, or just being black. Almost none of these cops are brought to justice for anything. Many of the victims have been mentally ill; if the cops had not been lazy and just shot the victim, they could have waited out the situation, or used other means to subdue. But, no. Shoot the victim multiple times to make sure they’re dead. Cops continue to murder citizens because they get away with it; the DA’s offices and the courts are complicit, the cop unions are strong and spread re-election campaign cash around a lot; even when video shows the cops perjured themselves in police reports. Youtube is full of video of cops going off on all manner of regular people for virtually no reason; they know they can brutalize people with impunity. Many cops are now ex military, and are used to shooting first, and not worry about anything later. The cop in Minneapolis arrested today for murdering George Floyd is ex military, and a personnel file with 17 prior citizen complaints against him…

    • zumiee said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:28 pm

      Well said.

  27. Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 7:50 pm

  28. Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 7:52 pm

    I’ve had two different interactions with cops, one with a nice one and one with a complete dickhead. The nice one ended up arresting me. The dick just wanted to fuck with me. He easily could have arrested me but he chose to just fuck with me. It was a game to him. I knew when to stand down to stop the escalation but the reality is, this guy could have done what he wanted. He chose to just fuck with me.

  29. dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    Not sure I’ve shared this before but my father was a patrolman in Belmont and my grandfather SFPD. It was my under grad field of study and I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about policing in America. One thing I’d recommend is steroid testing of officers.

    Anyway, those that are interested might find this informative. .
    https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

    • Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:18 pm

      too many people in our country are just fucking dumb. Everything is black or white. Our Idiot in Chief is the dumbest of all when it comes to this. The pendulum has swung to *they’re all bad*. That’s a fucked up way to look at this.

    • Flavor said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:20 pm

      and Dirt I’m not saying the link you posted is evidence of what I’m saying. I’m just commenting on all of this right now.

      • dirtnrocksnomo said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:23 pm

        No worries-I didn’t take it that way. Since we’re throwing quotes around today and whatnot.

        “Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of ’em are stupider than that.” ~G. Carlin.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:43 pm

        Love that quote, Dirt. Too true unfortunately. My mom’s favorite quote, and I don;t know who said it (MarkTwain? Will Rogers?), never underestimate the stupidity of the American people,

        Trump isn’t dumb when it comes to his survival. He fucks with women at every turn, stiffs his investors and employees, hundreds get burned when his businesses fail, his lawyers go to jail while he stays free, and anyone who gets close to him gets burned or subsumes their goals and ideals, and throws in completely with him.

        The trail of broken and fucked over lackeys is long and varied.

  30. xoot said, on May 29, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    Being a cop is tough work. Big cities can’t recruit enough good ones. I had a lot of experience with them over the years. Got arrested twice. And my first summer in law school, I worked for a law firm that represented cop and prison guard unions and the union members who got into legal trouble on the job. Eye opening.

    I did learn one generally useful thing: If you’re called for jury duty on a criminal case, tell the judge you believe that any cop on the witness stand will lie to try to ensure a conviction. You’ll be on your way to the elevator within minutes.

  31. unca_chuck said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    No need to get into the run-ins but I did get whacked in the head by a cop on a horse for no particular reason during the 49ers Super Bowl celebration back in 1982. And yeah I usually use any version of ‘fuck the police’ to get out of jury duty.

    No disrespect to the police because for the most part it is a thankless job, but Jesus, what is the thought process going on with Chauvin when you choke a man out for absolutely no reason? You have white guys walking into government buildings with high powered rifles in Michigan and not a glance by the cops. But George Floyd is dragged out of his car, cuffed, and killed for the unsubstantiated passing of a counterfeit $20.00 bill.

    • xoot said, on May 29, 2020 at 9:51 pm

      just about any judge will acknowledge the disrespect and distrust many people have for cops, even if they know you’re lying.

  32. snarkk said, on May 29, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    H.L. Mencken, presciently writing about US presidents and the campaign, Baltimore Sun, July 17, 1920:

    The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first rate man occasionally fights his way through carrying even the mob with him by the force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the man most devious and mediocre; the man who can most aptly disperse the notion that he is a virtual vacuum.

    The Presidency tends year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents and more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move towards a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts’ desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron…

  33. unca_chuck said, on May 30, 2020 at 8:44 am

    Wow. Great quote.


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