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And So They Must Play

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 30, 2020

Sixty five percent of Flap Nation says…..PLAY BALL!

That’s not bad, slightly higher than I suspected.

I like Loo’s take: we’re tied for first with 60 games to go.

Optimism. Why not? Don’t cost nuthin’.

 

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  1. chipower9 said, on June 30, 2020 at 7:06 am

    Here, finally, is the Giants 60 man list (well, 51). Any surprises?

    https://goldengatesports.com/2020/06/29/sf-giants-51-man-player-pool-2020/

    • snarkk said, on June 30, 2020 at 11:15 am

      Chris Shaw off list.
      I don’t think he’s injured….

  2. willedav said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:01 am

    Idea Giants will have unconventional non 5 man SP rotation is interesting. Seems part of plan involves either opener and or 2 guys designed to pitch 3-4 innings each at most. Could work for guys like Cahill Suarez DRod or even Gott. Plus Webb is someone they could use as much as possible without having to worry about innings limit. Gausman had most of his success out of pen last year.

    • Flavor said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:07 am

      I’m all in on these shorty pitchers. This is the direction baseball has gone and there seems to be an analytics reason for it though I don’t really know what that is. I trust Kap and Z though. Let’s see how they massage this staff. I bet it works.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:26 am

      Of all the changes in MLB over the past few, I found the “designated starter” concept one of the most interesting and positive. Initially, it was a bit of a hump on the ski-hill to come to grips with Sergio Romo starting games for the Rays. But it worked. One thing I like about Z. is his unconventional willingness to chuck the rules and established norms of the game and try new concepts. Willedav was spot-on about letting Webb stretch his legs a bit. I see him as having the potential of a #1 or at least a two. Way the rotation looks is that Smardj, Cueto and Webb should be good for 5-6 I.P. most of the time. The other two spaces should be the “X” for experimental zone.

      The character of this season appears to be that of a shakedown/shakeout cruise. Vets who up their game a bit should be considered as prime trade-bait to dangle in front of prime contenders who are short a piece or two on the chessboard. Provided the Pandemic is not extended indefinitely as per the insider agenda, 2021 should be the year that SF gets the primary parts assembled for ’22. This could be the scenario Zaidi envisions and evidently he sees Kapler as one who will cooperate with projectable strategies. The objective could well be another Even Year to add to the Giants string of magical mystery successes during the Teen years.

    • willedav said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:42 am

      well shorty pitchers and openers will work given the talent, which to me SF seems woefully short of in pitching dept. Platoony ball works same way–if you’re LA and can bring Pederson Kike Hernandez and Muncy off bench to swap in/out it will work great.

    • djloo27 said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:59 am

      And he was only 337 years old…

  3. Bill Fleming said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:31 am

    I heard an interesting stat yesterday. The Dodgers have won the division for the past seven years. But if the season ended after the first 60 games of the past seven years the Dodgers would have won the division ONLY TWICE.

    The best team will win the division over the course of 162 season. But with a shortened season every team has a chance to win the division or make the wild card.

    If the Giants don’t want to develop their young talent this season, then they can pull out all the stops during these 60 games to do everything in their power to get in the playoffs.

    People like Keith Olberman and Buster Olney say there is zero percent chance that there will be a World Series this year. My main question is let’s say there is a World Series and key players test positive for the virus. There are so many variables that can get this season played and/or cancelled.

    • Macdog said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:25 am

      Interesting. Breakdown of NL West leaders thru first 60 games since ’13:

      ’13 D-Backs; ’14 Giants; ’15 Bums (Giants 1 game back); ’16 Giants; ’17 Rox; ’18 D-Backs; ’19 Bums — by a lot.

  4. zumiee said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:41 am

    “Zum, are the opting out guys getting paid?”

    No.
    And it doesn’t count as service time toward free agency and their pension.

  5. Flavor said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:50 am

    that 16 year old would be 56 today. RIP Benny Mardones, watching it now this is one of the funniest music videos ever made.

    • Macdog said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:33 am

      Why don’t you come with me little girl?
      On a magic carpet ride.

  6. unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:04 am

    He would have been 34 at the time. Creepy AF. Never seen that before. Rick Astley has some competition

    • Flavor said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:24 am

      oh the creep factor is strong. That makes it even more hilarious. Unrolling the carpet in her bedroom is what puts it over the top for me.

  7. unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:32 am

    It ain’t no capital crime. It ain’t no hanging matter.

  8. Winder said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:49 am

    This was really the first Stones album that gave them the identity that the next few albums would cement. True bad boys of rock & roll.

  9. Flavor said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:57 am

    The 70’s didn’t seem too concerned with statutory rape…..

  10. snarkk said, on June 30, 2020 at 11:21 am

    This one was blatant and pretty notorious. 1968.
    Gary Puckett and the Union Gap — “Young Girl”…

    Young girl
    Get out of my mind
    My love for you is way out of line
    Better run, girl
    You’re much too young, girl

    Get out of here
    Before I have the time
    To change my mind
    Cause I’m afraid we’ll go too far

    • Flavor said, on June 30, 2020 at 11:39 am

      well, I mean, he was at least warning her to bail

  11. unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2020 at 11:31 am

    The ramifications in the US were bit harsher.

  12. willedav said, on June 30, 2020 at 11:48 am

    Only guy that surprised me as part of initial 51 was Joey Rickard. He hit career .280 in limited 50 ABs last year, but only 1 HR 2 doubles . Most HRs he ever hit was 8 in 200 ABs for Orioles couple years ago. Strikes out a lot, played LF and RF, bats R throws L. Giants seem pretty well stocked for corner OFs, both now and in future prospects. Would be a reach for him to make ML club and Ramos in other group. Why bother?

    • Bozo said, on June 30, 2020 at 12:20 pm

      Good question, he has played a little CF but still it is a hard one to figure out. Who knows, maybe he developed a wicked knuckleball.

  13. zumiee said, on June 30, 2020 at 2:44 pm

    Already a foregone conclusion, the minor league seasons were officially cancelled today.

  14. zumiee said, on June 30, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    It’s up to players to reveal to the public if they have the virus.

    “New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman, as well as Chicago Cubs GM Jed Hoyer, both stated that under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), teams are not required — or allowed — to divulge the names of any player that tests positive for COVID-19.
    “The information I’ve been given is (the media) will be left to try to figure that out,” Cashman said during a conference call on Tuesday afternoon. “Somebody might be down and out, but we might not be able to speak to why, and it would be a speculating circumstance (where) you would have to use your journalistic superpowers to determine if there’s anything there or not; what the circumstance might be.””

    The whole team should quarantine in those situations.
    MLB is going to go all “Wild West” on this, though, it sounds like.

    • zumiee said, on June 30, 2020 at 2:52 pm

      Yikes.

  15. zumiee said, on June 30, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    MLB offices are breathing a sigh of relief that no new players today, so far, have opted out of the ‘20 season.

    • willedav said, on June 30, 2020 at 3:28 pm

      Zum we’ll have to see once everyone gets in camp if players are uncomfortable and opt out. But with 900 jobs open not surprising few vets decided not to play; teams are adding in guys every day. Zimmerman was borderline to retire anyway.

  16. djloo27 said, on June 30, 2020 at 3:17 pm

    Just heard 3 pelicans tested positive.
    It took a minute to sink in…

    • willedav said, on June 30, 2020 at 3:36 pm

      Ha. fun retro game on nbatv–Warriors of Run TMC vs. Spurs of 91 Rod Strickland Sean Elliott Admiral.
      Nellie in grey suit white shirt and one of his wild bright ties.
      Sarunas M in there for GS Paul Pressey (who played for Nellie with Bucks) Terry Cummings for SA. Always liked the Spurs unis.

      • willedav said, on June 30, 2020 at 3:38 pm

        And Tolbert!

  17. willedav said, on June 30, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    Mario Elie #20 out of Power Memorial HS.
    Strickland held NBA single game assist record at one time. Not sure if he still does.

    • willedav said, on June 30, 2020 at 4:10 pm

      nah wrong there he never did that. Thought he set some record while playing for Washington.

    • Macdog said, on June 30, 2020 at 4:51 pm

      Does Scott Skiles still hold that single-game assist record?

      • willedav said, on June 30, 2020 at 4:54 pm

        yeah 30.

  18. Macdog said, on June 30, 2020 at 4:52 pm

    • djloo27 said, on June 30, 2020 at 5:55 pm

      These will be helpful when Mac Williamson gets around to filing his lawsuit…

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 30, 2020 at 7:43 pm

        They named the cove after McCovey and the plaza after Mays; they should christen those ‘pens as the Mac Williamson Memorial Bullpen. Or, just Oaf Land for short…

  19. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 30, 2020 at 7:41 pm

    Bill, per your morning post “If the Giants don’t want to develop their young talent this season, then they can pull out all the stops during these 60 games to do everything in their power to get in the playoffs.” I commented a couple of times about that the other day, as it’s my biggest concern about the team’s approach to this *season*. Obviously they’ll be evaluating the younger talent but comments from Z and especially Kapler indicate the *gap-filling vets* are going to get a lot of playing time. IMO, even thinking about playoffs this year is just stoopid. There’s absolutely no point in doing anything except focusing on the future. Otherwise, just another lost year. Which it probably will be anyway.

    And yeah, no one knows how this whole thing will go, but like pretty much everything else about Corona as a new virus, it’s a learning experience for everyone. What’s learned this year about how to handle things like sporting events in an epidemic or pandemic might come in handy for future bouts with these things, which I think will be happening more and more.

    • djloo27 said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:17 pm

      What 1969 hit song begins with “Bill”?

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 30, 2020 at 8:23 pm

        Wedding Bell Blues, 5th Dimension?

      • djloo27 said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:09 pm

        Well done!

  20. Flavor said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:20 pm

      That was pretty cool. And Bum….. still so bummed he’s gone.

  21. Flavor said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    just finished the first season of True Detective. Very good. Question for any who have seen the series? Are future seasons worth watching?

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:16 pm

      Just my opinion, but 1st season was so great with McConnaughy and Woody I wished they could’ve done 2nd season. 2nd season has Rachel McAdams, and I do love me some Rachel McAdams, but also has Colin Farrell and Vince Vaughan, 2 of my least favorite actors in the world, so…. Still worth watching, IMO, but it wasn’t riveting.

      • Flavor said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:26 pm

        I’m a big Vince Vaughn fan so I might have to give this one a go. What don’t you like about VV?

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:40 pm

        Vince Vaughn just annoys me with his acting “style”, which, to me, is consistent for any role he does. I never see a character, I only see him the actor, with his often wise-ass snarky way. That said, his character was a bit more developed for True Detectives, so I think you’ll like him in that.

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:43 pm

        Haha, I was going to ask if you 2 were related, but I think your family names are spelled differently…

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:18 pm

      Haven’t seen season 3, but have heard it “returned to the level of greatness of season 1” (yeah, the more I think of season 2, ugh), so I think I’ll have to cue up season 3…

  22. Flavor said, on June 30, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    Yeah, he spells it Vaughn. Anyway, I thought Swingers was a fantastic movie. And he was a gas on Curb your Enthusiasm. And if you don’t like that type of character how about his role in Return to Paradise? Wedding crashers has some of the best one liners in movie history. But I can dig your assessment of his acting.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 1, 2020 at 7:09 am

      Just saw this . . . Big, big Vince Vaughn fan too and since you rarely watch movies, you probably aren’t aware of the 3 films which revived Vaughn’s career – First one and most brutal is Brawl In Cell Block 99. Outstanding movie. Second film is excellent as well and continued the revival of not only his career, but a comeback of sorts for Mel Gibson as well – see Dragged Across Concrete (by the same director of Brawl In Cell Block 99). Last film I didn’t enjoy as much as the first 2, but nonetheless, Vaughn does a good job and is called Hacksaw Ridge.

      By the by, these are all drama/action films.

  23. unca_chuck said, on July 1, 2020 at 8:34 am

    Season 3 is real good, Paul.


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