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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 8, 2020

With the Giants shut down for 2 days because they can’t get the results of their testing back, I was wondering if anyone knew why MLB only has ONE site designated to run all these tests. That’s either incompetence or lack of effort. Or maybe MLB doesn’t want this season to go off at all? Sabotage. Think about it.

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  1. gianthead said, on July 8, 2020 at 7:41 am

    I think like much of county election issues in urban areas it is about competence:)

  2. gianthead said, on July 8, 2020 at 7:48 am

    But in all seriousness it is probably a big mistake that they are playing at home ballparks instead of just going 4-5 sites. Someone reminded Toronto had the hotel attached to their stadium. If they went Toronto, both FL sites, two Texas sites and AZ that would be 6 indoor stadiums and could run two games a day for 12 games for 24 teams. So add one more site and that gets it down to 14 games a day for 28 teams and every day two teams have a day off….very closeness add in Milwaukee stadium and you could put most of the two midwest divisions there, most of the east coast teams playing in FL and AZ and TX for the Western teams.

    • gianthead said, on July 8, 2020 at 7:57 am

      Also could just do AZ and Houston and have 2 sites for each AL/NL division…did you all see that there is a bid being put together by LaRussa, Dombrowski, Dave Stewart for a Nashville franchise?

      Adding in two new teams by 2022 post new CBA if there is one would generate significant cash by those two owners or groups to pony up cash to get mlb teams to cover potential losses for this year and maybe next.

      I have always advocated for expansion to balance out the leagues to 16 teams each (6 team playoffs best two records get byes) and add in Mexico City with Nashville. The Nashville group wants it to be majority african-american owned and you could require Latino ownership of the Mex City team and MLB would demonstrate their wokeness..

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:07 am

        The powers in the Dept. of $tate,et al would surely not approve, but I would substitute Havana, in a baseball crazy country for the soccer-to-me’s in Mexico City. Santo Domingo or San Juan would also be preferable to the megalopolis south of the boarder. Fan interest in either venue would be through the roof, but ticket, food, beer and parking prices they could charge would not appeal to your typical MLB high-rollers.

      • gianthead said, on July 8, 2020 at 12:10 pm

        Why I think would have to be Mexico City but could see some San Juan games and maybe even Monterrey…

  3. Carstie Clausen said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:08 am

    Jeeze Flav, YOU a conspiracy theorist? I tell ya, it’s everywhere these days.

    • Flavor said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:16 am

      well, not every road has to trace back to the Deep State, Stix. But if MLB really didn’t want to play this season, and I don’t think they want to, wouldn’t the easiest, blame free way to get around playing just be to let the virus shut it down?

  4. chipower9 said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:23 am

    Not a clue, but it sure seems odd. It seems you would have a number of regional test sites, with all having the same testing bandwidth and capabilities.

    Just play some fucking baseball, already.

  5. willedav said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:24 am

    Anyone have any idea how other leagues up and running, KBO Taiwan or English Premier League (or Italy/Spain), handle testing?

    • willedav said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:26 am

      Golf tournaments? Does each individual course test and get results only at each venue where Tour guys are playing?

      • alleykat69 said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:50 am

        The players and their caddies I believe get tested before the tournament they’re playing in, however some have contacted Covaid19 just from the travel to they’re destination, are feel effects after playing a round, get retested, comes up normal but play a round by themselves (Jason Day) to help isolate the player from the rest..
        Rough on a caddie if his player last second withdrawals, he’s forced to also!
        As the chat for “White Caddie’s Matter” also runs high in this pandemic!”

      • Flavor said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:51 am

        yes. And they get the results back immediately.

  6. alleykat69 said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:31 am

    Still don’t see baseball happening,Arizona and Florida are the hot spots with Major Covaid19 upticks after the holiday with governors that have no balls and allow restaurants, beaches, bars,hair salons etc to reopen and then expect fans to go to these virus infected stadiums? And testing for the players right now is a joke,Kris Bryant mentioned he was tested one day and not tested again for a week? If MLB can’t get a grip on better testing due to a holiday weekend break, then this will fail going forward by not taking it seriously enough..

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:49 am

      Glad to see you back and posting, Kat. You are quite right to keep on questioning this ongoing maladministration of reality.

  7. Flavor said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:53 am

    Antifa in Portland. Every fucking night. Still.

  8. djloo27 said, on July 8, 2020 at 8:53 am

    This might be very surprising to people – especially younger ones:


    • xoot said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:09 am

      • chipower9 said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:26 am

        Love James McMurtry. Great song. Hell, we may be related. You listen to the words of this song, and it brings back memories of my growing-up in Oklahoma, with relatives in Arkansas and Texas, etc.

      • Winder said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:29 am

        Good stuff. His dad is one of my favorite authors.

      • Bozo said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:32 am

        Great pick, Xoot.

      • xoot said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:39 am

        Roscoe tried to miss em, but he didn’t quite.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:50 am

        chipower: Book you gotta read: ‘Desperados’ by Ron Hansen–Knopf: 1979. It’s all about the Dalton gang and mostly takes place during the 1890’s in Oklahoma Territory and across the line in Coffeyville,Kansas where the gang took on a couple of banks instead of their customary railroad hits.

        They were very popular with many of the homesteaders and small town folk in the territory as the railroads were constantly gauging them. Well written, mostly based on diaries of Emmett Dalton,the only survivor of the fracas. He did years in the Kansas pen, but ultimately married his longtime sweetheart and as ‘Westerns” became the focus of much interest from Hollywood, he got swept up into that scene and made his fortune, got into real-estate and became quite famous in his day.

        Generally, I’m not big on Western novels, but the verisimilitude in this one really gets into the people’s history of that day and age and in your old stomping grounds.

      • chipower9 said, on July 8, 2020 at 2:02 pm

        Thanks for the book recommendation, Stix. I will definitely check it out.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 8, 2020 at 10:25 am

      dj: Thanks for sharing. Native place-names have long been a fascination. Back in ’96-97 I invested hour after hour transliterating the Latin spelling/orthography we use in American-English into the symbol-based New World Cosmographic Alphabet I’ve been channeling over the past 44 years or so.

      Did some tee-shirts in Cosmo back in the day, but did not use any of the native-connective stuff. This spring I lucked into Joe Jackson’s wonderful biography of the Lakota seer/sage Black Elk. The Lakota tongue expresses majestically in Cosmographics. One example for now: With four lines, a teepee is described as a reformulated Latin “A”. A few more wavy lines emanating from the top signals smoke. So, a teepee with smoke wafting out becomes the first letter in that alphabet, giving pride of place to the aboriginal inhabitants of this land which they long ago called “Turtle Island”.

      Plan is to produce a pair of adult coloring-books in the Cosmo: First one will be “The Cosmographic States of America.” Second will feature native names and place-names. Those acrylics should come in handy in some of the derivitive productions. Ultimately, this planet will adopt a symbol-based alphabet which will not be psychologically or spiritually limited to a singular culture. As of yet the New World has not yet presented its alphabetical vision for a more universal alphabetization of imagery, imagination and impact. Hopefully, the NWCA will serve as a conceptualizing template for such an endeavor.

      • xoot said, on July 8, 2020 at 10:32 am

        Turtle Island, yes — and the book of the same name is a classic. Gary Snyder at his best. And then there’s this:

      • djloo27 said, on July 8, 2020 at 10:47 am

        Sounds awesome, Stix.
        I’m definitely in for some coloring books…

      • Winder said, on July 8, 2020 at 12:31 pm

        stix- that is very interesting. Tradition aside the world could use an international language in audio and visual.

      • chipower9 said, on July 8, 2020 at 2:33 pm

        Stix – you know I definitely want a copy of the coloring books when you get them produced.

    • chipower9 said, on July 8, 2020 at 2:00 pm


  9. Flavor said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:09 am

    • willedav said, on July 8, 2020 at 10:08 am

      mm thx. some good news. think it’s better this way where each team controls their own in their own yard. Florida/AZ cluster never made sense. Now both states have blown up…
      NYT had story that if ranked as countries there are states in America including AZ Florida South Carolina that are hottest spots for positive tests in entire world.

    • chipower9 said, on July 8, 2020 at 2:32 pm

      Good news…keep it rolling and let’s see some baseball!

  10. Bozo said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:12 am

    You might be right, Flav. I really don’t think all the owners were ever in agreement about playing this year. My guess is that they found themselves between a rock and a hard place because of that little agreement that they signed off on earlier. So I think Manfred decided to push the MLBPA as far as he could to test the waters for the upcoming collective bargaining deal and if possible lay blame on the players if the season was canceled. When that didn’t work MLB switched to plan B.

  11. unca_chuck said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:12 am

    You OK, AK? How did the surgery go?

    • alleykat69 said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:52 am

      So far so good Chuck!
      Have the natural pains from surgery in the hip, but plenty of drugs and ice and PT should cure all in times!
      Just move around slow with the walker to keep Tin Man leg loosened up and oiled up lol..
      What’s great I’ve noticed so far is the lower back pain and right groin pain have disappeared for now!
      The doctor said it was even alittle worse then he expected, saying my pelvic bone was Just basically bone on bone with no cartilage around it.He scraped out a bunch of bone spurs and arthritis before starting the Steve Austin 6 million bionic hip replacement with titanium cup/ceramic ball that fits in the cup, hardened plastic screws lock everything together…

      • xoot said, on July 8, 2020 at 10:00 am

        “Tin Man”! You must be doing well. Maybe too early to say congrats, but it sounds like that won’t be long. Glad to hear it.

      • Winder said, on July 8, 2020 at 10:12 am

        kat-Good luck with the therapy and recovery.

      • chipower9 said, on July 8, 2020 at 2:35 pm

        Again Kat…wishing you a full and speedy recovery. And digging the new nickname…Tin Man.

  12. unca_chuck said, on July 8, 2020 at 10:04 am

    Good to hear, AK! AKA, Tin man!!

  13. Bozo said, on July 8, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    MLB sent me this –

    “Dear Former 2020 MLB.TV® Yearly subscriber,

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    We are aware you canceled your MLB.TV Yearly subscription during the delayed start to the 2020 regular season. As a former 2020 season subscriber, we would like to offer you a special discount for MLB.TV this season: pay only $45.18, almost $15 off the current full regular season 2020 price of $59.99. Click the link below to redeem this offer.”

    Nothing about refunds if the 60 games don’t happen and come on $45.18, not just $45 the cheap bastards. These guys just don’t get it, don’t they know for just $35 I can get Fuck You into the Trump VIP club.

    • chipower9 said, on July 8, 2020 at 2:37 pm

      I got a similar email. But I just do the radio…used it when working to have the game on in the background. Now that I am telecommuting full-time, I will continue to use it…IF they get the season going/completed.

      Love your last line, Clown:

      “These guys just don’t get it, don’t they know for just $35 I can get Fuck You into the Trump VIP club.” LMAO…

  14. willedav said, on July 8, 2020 at 3:09 pm

    Giants sched sure isn’t easy. Only 2 days off first 4 weeks. 7 at Dodgers 3 at Stros 3 home with A’s. Then home/home vs. AZ with Dodgers here in btw.
    Pitching gonna be interesting in that stretch of first half.

    • willedav said, on July 8, 2020 at 3:38 pm

      As Z said yesterday though, Giants went 19-6 in July last year, few days after Flap was there Friday night june 28.

  15. chipower9 said, on July 8, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    Agree on the schedule, WilleD. Was reading an article yesterday (attached) where it made the point that the Giants play seven in LA and three at home. Author was wondering how hard it would have been to make it a 5-5 split (two three-game series…one in each yard, and then two two-game series, again, one in each yard).


    • willedav said, on July 8, 2020 at 3:50 pm

      mm thx. Daniel said same thing–why not just go 5 game series with each division rival rather than make extra trips and give one team home advantage?

  16. xoot said, on July 8, 2020 at 4:01 pm

    Some EU countries are offering a cellphone CV19 tracing app. I think the app logs every bluetooth device that your phone gets close to, and if someone with one of those devices tests positive, you get a generic time/date notice. Well, not literally *you.*

  17. alleykat69 said, on July 8, 2020 at 4:01 pm

    If it’s still up to Larry Baer( he still gets under my skin) the Giants would play all they’re games against the Dogpile in LA.
    So long as they end they’re regular season at home for what 20 years straight now???
    Thanks again for all the well wishes,Winder,Stix,Willied,Chi,Unca,P/A,Xoot and all others,Tin Man appreciates it…

    • Macdog said, on July 8, 2020 at 4:11 pm

      Yep, such BS, last 7 games are at home, including final three vs. Pads.

      Kat, glad to hear your hip surgery went well!

    • djloo27 said, on July 8, 2020 at 4:19 pm

      • alleykat69 said, on July 8, 2020 at 4:41 pm

        Nice job Loo!!
        Always liked the Tin Man, he always had a axe 🪓 to grind..

  18. willedav said, on July 8, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    HUH? ESPN bottom line just said Raheem Mostert requests trade. whoa

    • Winder said, on July 8, 2020 at 4:30 pm

      yeah, he wants more money. He should get it too. They are low balling him this year.

  19. willedav said, on July 8, 2020 at 4:29 pm

    Agent said talks with Niners broke down. He signed 3 yr deal prior to last year; making $2.75 mil wants $$ due top running back, which is Coleman at $4.5 mil.

  20. xoot said, on July 8, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    three more added to Giants 60 man — pitchers Barager and Wolff and OF Canario. Canario’s a kid I’d enjoy seeing. If the season does go, I hope the writers and the Giants tv people pay attention to the guys on the 60-man.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 8, 2020 at 7:38 pm

      Canario tore em up in the Az. Rookie League last fall. Highlights were slugging percentage and that over half of his hits went for extra bases. Though only l65 pounds on a 6-1 frame, he’s only 20 and likely to fill out over the next 3-5 years. His SB’s v. CS’s was positive, but not that positive when still in his teens, so last go-round his SB attempts dropped considerably. Likely, he got some good coaching. Plus speed and exceptional arm, so he slots for either CF or RF.

      First full (they call it that in the NW league) season last year at Salem-Keizer, he held his own or better v. opponents generally two or three years his senior. Rated at SF’s 5th best prospect by at least one of the analysts. This year he would have had started at Augusta and may well have finished at S.J. With this CV madness, it’s a bit tricky to project his ascent to the Show. My guess is “cup of coffee” in 22 and on the 25-man or tearing up AAA in 23.

      • xoot said, on July 8, 2020 at 7:51 pm

        Canario’s OPS in low A was more than ok for his age. When the Giants nabbed him at 17 out of the Caribe he was a very skinny kid with a rep. He’s come a long way in a short time. If this season goes, he’ll be training on the 60 with guys much more experienced. I’d really enjoy seeing how that develops. This year. I’m confident that he’s grown.

  21. Macdog said, on July 8, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    • xoot said, on July 8, 2020 at 6:44 pm

      now we don’t need no trumpian bonespurs jokes

    • Winder said, on July 8, 2020 at 6:46 pm

      If it’s planer fasciitis, or bone spurs it’s not going away in a week. Unless he gets cortisone shots, that is what i had to do.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 8, 2020 at 7:44 pm

      Game seems to be going younger and younger. Seems like they start to skid in early/mid 30’s. Much of this could be due to “jockulitis”, where they work-out in gyms a whole bunch. It’s nothing like those raw-boned country boys who used to dominate the sport before everyone and his second-cousin ended up in suburbs. Hard to do real man’s work, toning up your body in the process where there’s so little of that to be done amidst contemporary reality.

  22. xoot said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    Posey not in camp the last few days

    • djloo27 said, on July 8, 2020 at 9:27 pm

      Sounds serious…

  23. willedav said, on July 9, 2020 at 6:26 am

    Caught tail end of Giants Chalk Talk with Dickerson and Watson last night. Dick seemed to think hitters would be ready to go in couple weeks and can pick up where they left off after ST got shut down. Pitchers maybe not so much.
    I think these get reshown Friday, with all 4 announcers. Krukow has full on white beard now; Jon Miller looks much thinner than I remember him.

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