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Put A *Kap* On His Mound Visits

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 31, 2020

I don’t have a problem with a manager being forward thinking, I like the commitment to how pitchers are managed in today’s new game, but one thing I absolutely expect is that you have to know the rules. The manager has to know the rules.

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He owned it after the game but talking before and after games is his wheelhouse. It is WAY to early in his time here to be making embarrassing blunders as he did last night.

I’m certainly not holding this against him.

But it is an ominous red flag…..

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  1. Winder said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:57 am

    We just don’t have the horses to be serious contenders. There is a lot to like about this team, the don’t give up attitude is the one thing i like the best. Like most here are saying it’s probably not gonna happen until 2022. Until then we will see some gems and some definitely not gems. We just got to stay the course.

  2. sandog said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:07 am

    When it comes to Kap, I’m more worried about the playing time he is giving Pence and Pablo than the screw up last night.

  3. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:10 am

    Managing his pitching is going to be ongoing challenge for Kapler. Like Winder said, this is a large part of Giants not having the horses to contend. Consistency sorely lacking–guys like Coonrod and others are OK for an inning and then next time out they struggle. Garcia looked good, like to see more of him. Peralta too.

    • Winder said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:57 am

      Agree, to me pitching is our weakest link.

  4. snarkk said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:48 am

    Some Cardinals have now apparently tested positive. Their game today is postponed…

    • zumiee said, on July 31, 2020 at 9:03 am

      That’s much more of an ominous red flag.

    • chipower9 said, on July 31, 2020 at 10:19 am

      Yes. Saturday’s game is still slated, and the postponed game is to be made-up on Sunday as part of a double-header.

  5. Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 9:05 am

    So it’s Kap’s birthday today. I think we know what to get him (rule book).

    • alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 9:16 am

      Lol 😂
      For some reason I thought this might of been some other new rule they threw in for this novelty season. In the past I don’t recall this happening? You go get your pitcher after the second visit and that’s it rather it’s the manager are pitching coach who goes out..

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:26 pm

      lmao

  6. zumiee said, on July 31, 2020 at 9:18 am

    He should have known the rule, but it had zero impact on the game. It was not a costly mistake.

  7. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 9:51 am

    Didn’t matter last night in the massacre of the 10th inning for the Padres( since they put up a 6 spot) needing to do this which is to me I feel the away team should just put the 1st runner on first base since his run won’t matter and they have a DP situation in place, just seems more logical for the away team to do if it’s still tied going to the bottom of innings..

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:27 pm

      Simple, basic, elementary logic seems to escape the perspectives of bureaucratic MLB Poobahs.

  8. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 10:09 am

    Especially for visiting team though, adding the extra baserunner such as last night, can lead to big inning. With just a runner on 2b, visiting team has to figure they need to score more than 1 run to win ballgame so why help them? This is also why teams don’t bunt first off and give up an out—there is very little gain and a bunt and a sac fly only gets 1 run in but leaves bases empty.

    Grisham singled right after Machado got his rather lucky walk and Rogers fell apart.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:30 pm

      “Rather lucky?” You are being waaay too kind to that doofus ump. Even the Pads announcers admitted that pitch was well in the zone. You add that to the ridiculousness of a “designated” runner on 2B and its a total recipe for disaster. Giants ownership circle should be on that one with both barrels of .10 gauge loaded with 00 buck.

  9. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 10:11 am

    Very disappointing that at home Giants SPs for 3 games in a row put them behind and no one could get through 5. Cueto smrdz Gausman was supposed to be top of the rotation. 3 with Texas and then 10 road games, no rest days.

  10. gianthead said, on July 31, 2020 at 10:28 am

    Let’s call it as it is….putting a runner on 2b to start extra innings is bullshit and not baseball…3-1 pitch to Machado was so obviously a strike an ump missing that is beyond atrocious and further calls for the robo ump.

    Kapler just does not trike me as that smart of a guy same as Mattingly never seemed the brightest bulb. Of course Bochy when he was pounding his post-game wine and in-game buzz with his chew never striked me as the smartest dude in the library. But where are his bench coaches to say hey wtf you doing going out to the mound????

  11. Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 10:28 am

    just remember Flappers, good ol’ Coach Norman Dale started off a little rocky, too; and look how that ended up.

  12. xoot said, on July 31, 2020 at 10:30 am

    Kapler’s like a smart teenager who’s really good at mlb video games and who then can’t figure out why actual players don’t hit or make the plays he thinks they should. It’s what you call schism between theory and practice. Kapler’s head seems to be so full of theory (based on analytics) that he overlooks real, concrete detail. Or, to put it another way, he can’t keep two opposing thoughts in his head at the same time and still function well. That’s what happened last night. That’s what happened with his famous BP screw-up in Phil. about two years ago.

    In the middle of what appeared to be a lost game in LA in 2010, Bochy was still paying so much attention to detail he nabbed Donnie-two-trips. Mattingly probably learned his lesson then, while everyone else in the world who didn’t know the rule learned about it, too — including Kapler. Leaving Rogers in last night, in theory, may have made some sense; when it became clear in the real world that it was a mistake, Kapler, unable to process all of the other important real-world factors, reacted incompetently. Even if he had the horses, I don’t see how this guy could manage them.

    • gianthead said, on July 31, 2020 at 10:46 am

      It always struck me as bs all these baseball analytic guys are math or stock guys with not an ounce of playing knowledge and not really having a feel for athletics. Maybe I am wrong and analytics play a bigger more important role than the chemistry winning teams develop or the old school baseball knowledge of the people like Roger Craig and Al Rosen, but of course they never won the big prize but had a tight wad owner in Bob Lurie…I will give Bochy that credit of having that wily baseball old-timer smarts versus relying on chart after chart that it looks like Kapler and Farhan probably sleep with…

    • Winder said, on July 31, 2020 at 10:51 am

      Maybe Z has everyone on secret probation including Kap. If he can’t handle normal pressure then it will continue to show and he won’t be here long.

    • Bozo said, on July 31, 2020 at 11:18 am

      I don’t think Kapler was ever on a major league coaching staff until he got the manager job with the Phillies. Hiring Girardi and firing Kapler was apparently the owner’s call after he talked with the players and people around the league. This is a pretty good article about what happened to Kapler over there in the city of brotherly love last year,
      https://www.inquirer.com/phillies/gabe-kapler-fired-phillies-manager-search-20191010.html

      • Winder said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:14 pm

        Bozo, thanks for the link. His time at Philly is sort of mirroring what’s going on here. Inadequate pitching staff, and trying to instill a different attitude. We shall see.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:33 pm

      Spot on analysis of analytics (or is it anal-antics) ideology among the D-generation.

  13. gianthead said, on July 31, 2020 at 10:38 am

    In a $50k to the winner fan duel contest the guy leading it most of the night loses his lead and is pushed way down into just a $1000 winning entry while the Padres go nuts in the top of the 10th.

    But he is the only one in the big money starting Solano and his meaningless double in the bottom of the 10th which I did not see until this morning after I gave up on the game during the Padres onslaught around 1:30 am puts him back into first amd $50000!!!! I suck in this daily fantasy miasma…

    Another guy had three entries each winning $7500 as the game went into the 10th…by the time that inning ended he was down to 3 $300 winning entries. If I had lost $21,500 because of that bullshit they call extra inning baseball I would have smashed my tv…

  14. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 11:03 am

    Book I read by Keith Law “Smart Baseball” from 2017 he said teams now are hiring MA or PhD grads to help in analytics. He was from Harvard and said he couldn’t do his old job as intern with Jays 2002 now. There is so much data now available to clubs (and not to public) that challenge is finding a way to get it in proper format for teams to make sense of it and use it to analyze performance. Every pitch, where a ball is hit, swings, from low minors to college prospects and at all ML parks.

    Also he said players prefer video-they want to be able to look at something in live action, not just graphs. So how do you get this in a way so they can make use of it.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:35 pm

      Personally, I’ve always tended to want to puke when faced with graphs–something totally soulless and utterly abstract about that shit.

  15. Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 11:20 am

    honestly, Kap has a lot going on in that brain during the game and I don’t have a problem with that. What he could probably use is a bench coach with some experience who can gently remind him of some in-game rules he needs to adhere to. Everyone around him is like 30 years old…..

    • chipower9 said, on July 31, 2020 at 11:28 am

      Wotus? I know he coaches 3rd and is not always available, but he has that old school knowledge.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 11:35 am

      Well one guy who’s old would be Wotus, but no freakin way would be make a good bench coach. I’m still wondering why they kept him other then to show the diaper staff the proper technique on using a razor with their peach fuzz..

      • chipower9 said, on July 31, 2020 at 11:49 am

        Not saying he is the guy who Flav suggests, but Wotus was the bench coach for many years prior to this year.

    • xoot said, on July 31, 2020 at 11:59 am

      In extras, when managing the pen is usually one of your most important tasks, is it really too difficult to keep in mind along with everything else that some sort of punitive rule applies if the coaching/managing staff makes two trips to the same pitcher during an inning? It is if you’re playing the game mainly in your head instead of both in your head and on the field. The guy’s theory is in the right place. Personally, I like him. He’d probably be great off the field, in some capacity.

  16. snarkk said, on July 31, 2020 at 11:55 am

    Leaving Rogers in so long to get slammed was Kapler’s mistake. The rules thing was nearly irrelevant to the outcome. Because it is indicative of performance and situational judgment, I’m more concerned about the former than the latter…

    • xoot said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:02 pm

      so am I really. And after the game Kapler showed just how dumb was his decision to leave in
      Rogers when he argued that theoretically they have “leverage” with Rogers because he “can” go more than one inning. He’s already shown this year that sometimes he can’t even go one. His stuff is so slow that if it’s off just a bit, he’s toast.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:40 pm

        Dude is probably more than passably on toppa his game for a single inning and without too many impacting variables.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:38 pm

      Gott mit Uns in the 10th would have been the better call. He’s a vet and has the kinda sangfroid to deal with unfortunate circumstances, unfair rules and stopped umps. All that was one big heap of donkey dung on Rogers’ plate.

  17. xoot said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:04 pm

    KALX Berkeley’s playing Peter Green now. Started with Supernatural (J Mayall band) and moved to Black Magic Woman. I have no idea if it’s just a set or a long segment. Good so far, though.

  18. Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    the giants bench coach is some 31 year old dude, he has zero experience at the mlb level, I can’t even remember his name. I think it’s Correa.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:41 pm

      Maybe that league in Korea could use Correa for something or another.

    • snarkk said, on July 31, 2020 at 12:54 pm

      Chick?…

      • chipower9 said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:16 pm

        And Return to Forever…

    • willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:38 pm

      yeah Kai Correa. i looked him up last week. He played and coached at Puget Sound, then Northern Colorado. then he helped Indians AZ league. That’s it. Hey Z let Kapler hire his own people, so he owns it.

  19. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Honestly, I haven’t even really been watching the games – pretty sure Wotus was bench coach in SF from 1999–2017.

    • chipower9 said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:17 pm

      Something like that. He was bench coach for many years.

  20. mrsprtdude said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    Haven’t read all the posts, as I am lounging in Palm Springs..but is just me or after the lame walk gifted by the ump did Kap play the infield IN with runners at 1st and 2nd? No dvr ro rewind. I say WTF, but hen the hit happened and I couldn’t check. Just laughing right now. I’m thinking I likely don’t want to know. Not to pile on but has Rogers been in every game??

    • willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:41 pm

      I think it was with first and third. So potential DP ball gets through IF for single. would have cost a run sure, but I remember thinking that was questionable move.

  21. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    So what’s the deal with these stupid 7 inning doubleheader’s are they going to put a runner on 2nd base in those games in the 7th? Are just play 7 innings and it could end up in a stupid tie in the standings?

  22. snarkk said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    Re Kapler, 7 games in as manager:

    Look, Bochy made more than a few bad moves in the Pen over his long tenure. Especially before 2010. And, who can forget the 2016 Cubs playoff game when he pulled a dealing Matt Moore in the 9th inning for a pen that had been gas can central? Everybody here immediately predicted the debacle that followed. Before 2010 I called Bochy the Bonehead, a lot — and for good reason. He got a lot smarter with Cain, Bum, Timmy and the Core Four in their prime doing their thing…

    • willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:48 pm

      No question it takes talent to win. But how to explain the difference btw Bochy and Dave Roberts? Or anyone billy Beane has hired that can’t win a playoff game? all luck and getting hot at the right time? The fact that Bochy was able to win with 3 very different groups over the course of 5 seasons= surefire HOF.

      So far in his brief career Kapler has been unable to get a team to finish above .500 Remains to be seen whether he is part of solution or part of the problem. .

      • chipower9 said, on July 31, 2020 at 2:36 pm

        That is why I wonder if he isn’t just a placeholder. Someone mentioned Melvin the other day. He is signed with the A’s only through 2021.

  23. Macdog said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:42 pm

    From Pav: The Giants called up Sam Selman. Sam Coonrod goes on 10-day IL with a lat strain.

  24. Macdog said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    Here ya go, CC:

    • chipower9 said, on July 31, 2020 at 2:37 pm

      OUCH. Bring on the Robos!

  25. Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:51 pm

    wut.

  26. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 1:59 pm

    So why are they keeping Tony Watson on the roster right now? He’s obviously not right and has only pitched in one game 2/3 of an inning?This is what use to piss me off in the past not putting someone on the DL and playing shorthanded! But maybe it’s not as big a deal this with the expanded rosters..

    • xoot said, on July 31, 2020 at 2:29 pm

      he obviously wasn’t right when he pitched in the Oakland exhibition game. the gun was low, but not that low. aren’t radar readings analytic stats? I hope Z is pushing the tech people hard to update the AI making decisions.

  27. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 3:40 pm

    I’m with Diggity. The overt leaning on the vets at the cost of playing time for Davis, Dubon, Bart, etc. is the biggest issue I have as well. The stupid Donnie 2x mistake? Well, the game was already lost by then so it doesn’t worry me much. Unless he does it again and it directly affects a game. He famously last year called for a pitcher out of the pen when no one was even warming up.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 4:39 pm

      Maybe the pitcher was ghosting Kapler..
      Either way it’s embarrassing…

  28. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 4:52 pm

    Unfucking real I see it and I still can’t believe it!!
    LU tonight has Hunter Pence playing LF and batting Cleanup!!
    As Nancy Kerrigan says WHY!WHY!WHY! WHY ME!
    And better off Why MR..056 batting 4th!!!

    • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:01 pm

      well maybe they just got tired after 8 fucking weeks in a row of tearing up downtown at night. The feds were there for two weeks. What’s the excuse for the first 6?

    • unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:12 pm

      See umbrella man. Same shit. Either that or white punks on dope.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:18 pm

      Did you know that all the bullshit is confined to 2 city blocks? The rest of Portland is back to normal.

      “Day to day life for most people has not changed, with the unrest confined to a few square blocks in the city centre.”

      https://news.sky.com/story/portland-a-city-under-siege-overrun-with-anarchists-the-picture-is-far-more-complex-12036295

      • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:20 pm

        i know exactly where it is happening. It’s a little more than 2 blocks. But who the fuck cares? Are you cool with 200 hoodlum anarchists coming into Walnut Creek downtown EVERY FUCKING NIGHT FOR 8 WEEKS and fucking shit up? I highly doubt it.

      • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:22 pm

        CHUCK save your fucking questions about whether I know what’s going on. Yes is the answer. I just spent a week with several people who live in the suburbs in Portland. I know EXACTLY what the fuck is going on but keep reading your articles and forwarding them if that makes you feel like you’re on top of all this.

      • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:23 pm

        again, answer the question, would you be cool with 200 anarchists fucking up your downtown every night for 8 weeks? Two blocks? Fucking five blocks? You’d be down all that??????

      • unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:26 pm

        The few people I know that live in Portland have said it isn’t affecting them. But they don’t live near the shitstorm, I guess.

        What’s the answer? Bitch about it? You think the federal troops are helping?

      • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:32 pm

        my friends in Portland are also saying it isn’t directly affecting them, they don’t live downtown. And almost all of this goes down at night. That’s not the point. Most people aren’t cool with 200 anarchists a night fucking up the downtown. I said from the beginning the Feds coming in was a mistake. But the problem was mismanaged by the mayor and I found out a LOT about the details of that this week but don’t feel like having it work me up again by explaining it to you.
        Look, I already know the answer. You would not be ok with this if it was your town. And why don’t we just drop it you’ll notice I haven’t brought it up once since the night I went a little sideways with it.
        It’s a fucked up situation that pisses me off. And if I decide to *bitch about* it again you can be the first to re-post articles you find on the internet about it. “Don’t believe everything you read” is an important thing to remember…….

      • unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:41 pm

        Did I get pissed off when the Concord punks stormed the Walnut Creek Nordstrom’s and Sunglass Hut? No. Not really. Or when Target was targeted? No.

        Did I march? Yeah I did a couple times. Did I fire rocks at cops? No. Whatever. Portland is Portland. There are a lot of off-center people there. Is this a bunch of frat boys blowing off steam? That’s what it sure looks like to me, but what do I know. All the reports I read and hear about from folks are that the protests are peaceful till late at night and then the angry young white guys show up with bats and shields and fireworks.

        Again, what is the solution? More cops? More barriers? More teargas? The point to this lately is Trump is inciting the riots by bringing in the fed troops. He is doing this in Detroit, Chicago and other towns. He WANTS this. How these cities stop this is by not overreacting and not going full force after these guys. They might as well make a bigger perimeter and try to split up the crowds.

        Fuck if I know.

      • unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:43 pm

        Sorry, just thought it was an interesting article.

      • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:58 pm

        you are mentioning moments during protests. None of that shit happened every night for 8 straight weeks. If you want to delve into this subject my advice is to post a thread at your blog. I will be happy to go back and forth there about it. Until then, let’s just try to focus on baseball till it gets canceled.

  29. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 4:53 pm

    And Umbrella man was found to be a right-wing nutjob who was inciting riots in Minneapolis.

  30. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:02 pm

    See my 3:40 post, AK. This shit has to stop. Why are we ‘evaluating’ guys like Pence, Pablo, Belt, Longo, and Crawfish? It is fucking pointless. And fucking Davis goes down to Sac. Fuck me sideways. Bart? Nope. Not gonna call him up.

    My only thought on that is that these guys fear the season may end and it would burn the year for Bart if it ends early.

  31. zumiee said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:08 pm

    Tonight’s Giants game is also on ESPN 2. And it’s a little earlier start, 6:00 Pacific Time.

  32. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:11 pm

    Only half of the flab four. I guess it’s gonna be five what with Pablo off to a slow start.

    Crawfish off the menu. Sansabelt.

    1. Austin Slater (R) RF
    2. Wilmer Flores (R) 1B
    3. Mike Yastrzemski (L) CF
    4. Hunter Pence (R) LF
    5. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
    6. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
    7. Darin Ruf (R) DH
    8. Chadwick Tromp (R) C
    9. Mauricio Dubon (R) SS

    P Logan Webb

    • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:12 pm

      ruf. I forgot about him.

    • willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:37 pm

      that’s not bad at all. Other than the LF, Giants group vs. LHP is fine.

    • willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:39 pm

      maybe the message is being delivered. One day after Belt is activated he’s on bench tonite.

  33. Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:11 pm

    I could give two shits who Kap trots out there at this point. Good chance baseball is over after this weekend anyway. We got a week of it, maybe a little more, I’m not going to feel bad about enjoying that.

    • snarkk said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:57 pm

      Yep, looking dicey for this thing to go on much longer.
      How the NFL figures to get a full season in is just pie in the sky.
      Each team has 2X more dudes on the roster than an MLB team. That’s 2X more dudes not in a bubble, and ready to leave the facility every night to hit the strip joints.and clubs.
      They sweat, breathe and bleed all over each other, after crashing into and tackling each other.
      I give the NFL two games into the season before it craters, if they can even start it…

  34. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 5:47 pm

    See if Mr. Gallo gets (or needs) any help from closed archways tonite/tomorrow.

    • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 6:01 pm

      James is probably covering the living room furn with plastic wrap so as to not displease Mrs. James during celebratory appreciation of his immense power. He’ll hit one tonight I bet.

  35. snarkk said, on July 31, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    I heard on radio that Solano, altogether since he joined Giants last year, is hitting .345.
    Yowsa. That dude better be somewhere in the lineup every game…

    • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 6:23 pm

      put me on the list of guys who didn’t believe in him. But you’re right, he barrels up the ball nearly every time he makes contact.

  36. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 6:24 pm

    Slater is on again. OB machine so far.

    • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 6:43 pm

      he came with the brains, now it’s just sit back and watch them work…..

  37. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 6:49 pm

    Until he cools off Donovan Solano should be batting 3rd in the LU.Donnie Barrel doesn’t need to be batting 6-7 that’s BS! Hell Solano 3rd Yaz batting 4th is what it should be.
    You can have your pick of Slater,Flores,Dubon to leadoff are bat 2nd, get the best hitters with decent speed together.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 6:57 pm

      Agtreed in general. Kapler gets at best a D without a plus (+) for his lineup arrangements. WHY he keeps trotting out Pence AND batting him cleanup to boot is beyond all of my bits of baseball logic. I’d go for Yaz at third (best overall hitter) and Solano cleaning up (steadily dangerous to date) followed by Longoria or Dickerson in the enforcer role. Slater at leadoff and switching at DH between Flores and Ruf.

  38. snarkk said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    Pence better pick it up in a huge way, stat.
    Otherwise, I can’t understand why he is here…

    • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:06 pm

      it was just an outrageous hire. Pure pub grab to satisfy the FB housewives.

  39. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:10 pm

    Minor had a ridiculously low pitch count going into the inning. Slater’s a.b. was NOT bad. He lasted into seven pitches and then lined out. Those long at-bats wear down hurlers. Watching Twins vs Cleveland’s very good Clevenger. Their guys were a study in wearing down the guy on the mound. Slater may just possibly be arriving…if so, we have us an outfield.

    • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:16 pm

      Slater gets a bad rap here because everyone hates Stanford but the hard truth is he’s neither strong nor fast. You need to be one of those things in today’s game or you are #duffy or #panik and there is no place for you. I’m just speaking the truth.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:21 pm

        Sometimes a player shows up who’s neither strong nor fast. Consider Pete Rose—all guts and determination.

      • Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:44 pm

        game has changed, Stix.

  40. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:19 pm

    Liking the way that Webb recovered himself after that 4 pitch walk to Chirinos. GDP erases the mistake, but at 71 pitches he’s getting pretty deep into pitch-count. At this point he remains our best starter. Big question mark is whether he can go 85 or so without further damage in this close contest with Minor whose stats indicate a pretty not too bad #3 starter.

  41. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:25 pm

    Webb just plain ran outta gas at 75 pitches or so. He recovered nicely in the previous inning, but as I feared, he was already flagging a bit. He’s nowhere close to midseason form yet as per stamina.

  42. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:25 pm

    The ability to get on base is an important skill. whether Slater hits for power or not he can still be a productive corner OF.
    Webb looked like crap tonite very little command pitches all over the place. Not a good outing. And he leaves sacks loaded for Menez.

  43. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:29 pm

    Law gave this example—2 players have .800 OPS
    One has OB of .300 slugging of .500
    One has OB of .400 slugging of .400
    who do you want on your team?
    His answer: player #2, who over 500 ABs will make 50 less outs

  44. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    Yaz just keep crushing the balls especially off of lefties!!

  45. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    Yessir, yessir, three bags full. Menez’ slider gets tough-stink on first pitch. Liking Conner more and more in the possible role of my beloved FIREMAN retro. Cool head under intense pressure. Sure, there were two outs already, but many a reliever would simply have thrown gas on the fire.

  46. Macdog said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    Yaz sure is fun to watch hit. Pence not so much.

  47. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:32 pm

    ah that’s BS. so much for vet leadership, Longo with dribbler with Yaz on 3b and Giants down a run.

  48. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    Penceless now at .O50!!!
    Amy G could do that!!

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:36 pm

      Fanbase is getting tense over Pence–with good reason. Whether Kapler is taking orders or simply letting out the string, this shit’s gotta stop. And him batting cleanup? Don’t even START to get me started.

  49. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    Minor is a crafty one. Cruises through 4 with fewer than 50 pitches. He’s a soft-thrower, usually employing changeups and knuckle-curves. Seems like Yaz is the only one barreling up on him.

  50. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    Actually I’m wrong Penceless doesn’t have a hit so his Avis still . OOO
    The .O50 is his OBP with that keen play when he got HBP but failed to break his hand..

  51. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    Pence in the 4 hole is so much like Bochy putting Posey in the 4 hole for 5 months.

    Mr Kotter doesn’t have that much eeway

    • alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:54 pm

      Are the year when Randy Winn sucked ALL-YEAR playing RF he hit 2HR’s for the freakin season, but he refused to play Nate Scheirholtz the youngster over the washed up Vet!!
      Hmmm 🤔 sound familiar with Pence?

    • unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:57 pm

      Don’t get me started on Ray Ray. Twin’s ghost will haunt me tonight. Fyiung Squirrel Frandsen batted .377 the tail end of whatever year that was.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:58 pm

      …or freeway.

  52. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:43 pm

    When did we get unfrozen caveman reliever?

  53. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    Yeah Tromp is by far a lousy catcher compared to Heineken.He doesn’t set the glove up well at all for the pitcher,all over the place and ground,he’s off balance in his stance, he has a long progression behind the dish compared to Heineken’s!
    But Hell he just got his 1st big league knock! So it’s the bat that will keep him around..

  54. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    Damn!! Hell of an AB by Flores.

  55. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    Flores!!! Keep playing that Friends music!!
    3run Bomb!!

  56. Macdog said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    Wilmet!

    • willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:03 pm

      Hope Loo saw that one. just like he called it, pulling the ball at the O will work.

  57. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:57 pm

    Well met, Wilmet. Yes! Bottom of the lineup started getting to Minor’s fluffies. Slater lines out and Flores fluoresces.

  58. Winder said, on July 31, 2020 at 7:57 pm

    That was beautiful.

  59. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    Pence’s walkup music should be If You See Kay by April Wine.

  60. willedav said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    shaun of the dread? Gotta go a couple here and hold lead.

  61. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    Old English adage went “In for a Pence, in for a Pound.” Hell, with his .000 BA Hunter ain’t even in for an ounce. Okay, Kapler, let’s do it this way: Bat Pence 9th every 3-4 days and when he finally manages a blooper single to the opposite field give him his gold watch and “Sayonara”–you saved that dimming bit of pride. The longer this bullshit goes on, the worse its going to be for his legacy.

  62. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    Yeah 2 bad Yaz would of had to steal 2nd 3rd and home if they were to score with Pence batting!!!
    K&K with a laughable comment:That was a veteran move allowing Yaz a chance to steal second!
    Your killin me Smalls!!

  63. Flavor said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:08 pm

    Pence and Enormous Panda were hired to appease the facebook housewives. They were hired for no other reason. It was an embarrassing and pathetic ploy

    • unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:23 pm

      Panda was fine. He was reasonably successful last year in his limited action. Both of them? No.

  64. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:12 pm

    None too bad a job for “Big Shaun”. Of course a lot depends on who you happen to be facing. Let’s face the facts–Giants have been up against some fair to not too middling pitching from the LaBumbos and the Tucks–Friars, that is.

  65. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    Hate to think that was true but the howling over Panik, Pillar, Pence, and anybody with a tiny bit of success the last 10 years who should be signed.

  66. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    Giants thinking one bleeder hit for Pence and he will breakout and they will give him a week worth of worthless AB’S..

  67. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    Trump!

  68. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    There you go! Mr. Kotter needs to learn his lesson here. The young guys are bringing it.

  69. Macdog said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    Tromp rampin’ it up.

  70. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    Dude can hit. Chadwick Trompled all over that one. Then Mauricio comes through to drive him in. Seems like the Rangers mgr. shouldda pulled Minor after the first man on base. Maybe he doesn’t trust his bullies. Bottom of the lineup guys seem to be tough on soft-throwers. They have accumulated a lot of damage. Bully for them. If Kapler can get his lineup yips together this bunch could be a .500 team, a feat they haven’t managed since ’16.

  71. unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    Slick play by Dubon there.

  72. alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    Bullpen doing the job tonight!
    Menez,Anderson and now Peralta 10 up 10 down!!

  73. Carstie Clausen said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    Whole different look to the bullpen so far tonight. Peralta throwing mostly sliders mowed em down, with a little help from his friends. Five reliable relievers is what it takes these days. Selection process is in play. So far its looking good.

  74. Macdog said, on July 31, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    Pence 0-21 start matches ’88 Orioles.


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