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Disgusting Loss

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 26, 2020

This is my second attempt at writing today’s thread. The first time I sat down opened my laptop, couldn’t type anything, closed my laptop and went to buy bagels. I have now returned to try again……

The one thing that is clear as day is that Kap doesn’t know how to manage his bullpen. He seems to have a pre-set idea of what he’s going to do in the later innings no matter what the moment is. I wonder how much influence Andrew Bailey has in these decisions. If the answer is “not much” maybe he needs more……

“out of adversity comes opportunity.”

It’s entirely possible that the post season will be that much sweeter if we make it because of last night. Let’s see what happens today.

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  1. pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 8:24 am

    Cornpone couldn’t find home plate with NASA’s next-generation GPS. Once Hapless Kapless saw that, he should’ve adjusted to what we in the Western world call “reality.” FFS.

    • Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 8:28 am

      Hapless kaplass is fuckin’ gold

  2. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 8:37 am

    Pawlie’s feeling his Giant passion again.
    We need him here!

    Auto correct tried to change Pawlie to Pastor.
    Pastor Kokonuts…

    • pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 8:56 am

      on your knees, son

  3. alleykat69 said, on September 26, 2020 at 8:49 am

    Kapler is beyond clueless with the use of the pen. Sam Selman took care of the ONLY batter he faced to close out the 6th on 5 pitches which 4 were strikes obviously no control issue( and has pitched in these spots before.Instead of him starting the 7th in complete control he goes with the WILDTHING who we all know has been a pile of smelly dog shit lately.The results were easy to call, another GottCooned ending was inevitable!!

    Kapler said even with Peralta warming up ( gee u think Peralta vs Grisham lefty on lefty would be the obvious choice?) he was sticking with Coondog all the way even if Grisham just tied it, because he is used to HIGH LEVERAGE SITUATIONS!! WTF does that even mean? Peralta is no Rookie experience wise, he was the choice and as usual with Kotter’s brain it short circuited, GOD this is where I really miss Bochy and his masterful job of handling a BP!!!!

  4. Winder said, on September 26, 2020 at 8:49 am

    The positive out of all of this is that the Pads really are not beating us we are doing the job for them. In my mind we just have to make better decisions regarding game management. And, we definitely need some better pitching out of the pen and starting. i don’t feel comfortable with Cueto at all.

    • Winder said, on September 26, 2020 at 8:54 am

      With the strong lineup that the Pads have our pitching for the most part has kept them in check. That is a nice surprise, I though they might just run over us. By all rights and a little luck we should have clinched a playoff spot already. Now we need some real luck and no mistake ball.

    • Lurker John said, on September 26, 2020 at 9:05 am

      At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter how they lost, they lost and they lost badly. That’s about 5 games this season that they’ve blown in spectacular fashion. Completely unacceptable in the Major Leagues, especially in a damn 60 game season.

  5. pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 9:00 am

    Sometimes, perhaps most times, a manager has to forget about all that righty-lefty shit and pitch-count nonsense AND USE COMMON FUCKIN SENSE, Billy Beane and Bill James and Sandy Alderson and Paul DePodesta nothwithstanding. Cue comment from James.

    • Lurker John said, on September 26, 2020 at 9:06 am

      He had Wandy up and ready. No way in hell Coonrod should’ve still been in there to serve up that cookie. I think Kapler has been wearing his mask too high. It’s obscuring his vision.

  6. gianthead said, on September 26, 2020 at 9:17 am

    One of those nights dead asleep awaken to learn not only ahead but three outs away…what the Coonrod? One of those moments when runner on first one out and mound visit thwy got to say hey fuckrod, go after the hitter because even if he hits it out still tied game. The one thing you cant fucking do Fuckrod is walk the fucker…

  7. James said, on September 26, 2020 at 9:23 am

    Just up after losing some sleep last night …again. Ridiculous. Lurker J is right, that would be 1 or two too many of these collapses for an entire 162 game season.

    Pawlie, my Kapler defense is forthcoming after a few more cups of coffee. It doesn’t have anything to do with lefty/righty or pitch count, both of which Kapler sorta ignored, right?

  8. Bill Fleming said, on September 26, 2020 at 9:29 am

    *Sad that if the Giants don’t make the playoffs it came down to the meltdowns of three games in particular (Gott twice and Coonrod). I refer to Kapler as Muscle Head.

    *Last night was my favorite line-up. I haven’t looked at the contract situations for next year, but would most people on this board be comfortable going into next season with that exact offensive group? Some young talent on the way (Ramos, Bishop, Luciano) but they might not be ready by 2022, if at all. Would just have to add a staring pitcher or two and have a defined bullpen.

    *I read in the past it’s best to have a line-up with all hitters hitting around .270 rather than three or four guys hitting .320 and the other four players hitting below average. I think I agree with this. The Giants don’t have any easy outs in their line-up so they are always a threat to score at anytime in the game.

    *I am sold on the DH for the National League. You can get players like Flores in the game. Who honestly wants to see pitchers like Cueto spin around haplessly while batting. There still is enough strategy in the game with the DH.

    *Yaz’s completed follow through is a thing of beauty.

    *Watch when Bart is hitting. Bart doesn’t turn away on an inside pitch. He leans into the inside pitch with his hands exposed. That’s why he is prone to getting his hand hit on inside pitches. Giants and Bart have to fix this.

  9. alleykat69 said, on September 26, 2020 at 9:59 am

    Yes I agree with you Bill on Bart.He does lean in on inside pitches which pitchers have figured out and he ends up jamming himself.How many pulled down the LF line does he really hit not many.
    His power is when a pitcher makes a mistake on the outside of the plate and he extends his arms and drive the ball to Right Center, but he has to with the coaches help adjust to the inside pitch if he doesn’t pitchers will constantly pound him in.Maybe Bart should look at film of teammate Wilmet Flores on the proper technique of crushing inside pitches..

    Another thing and I know Bart’s overwhelmed being up here and understandable to a degree.But I wish he had more of a take charge attitude, I want alittle more fire in his belly then his nonchalant attitude! More time in the bigs should help him along with the master of a pitching staff Buster Posey coming back will make it better for him , especially handling a pitching staff that Buster is one of the best ever at doing..

    • Lurker John said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:09 am

      Yeah, the current catchers have really made me appreciate how good Buster has been behind the plate over the years. It was easy to take him for granted, but I won’t be doing that any more. He may not be around all that much longer anyway, but hopefully we’ll see him next year.

  10. snarkk said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:00 am

    Coonrod is performing like our former Musclehead.
    Kappler should make a visit to a sweat lodge and sweat out of himself further notions of Coonie in a “high leverage” situation. Same sweat lodge he finally visited to get rid of similar notions of Gott…

  11. Lurker John said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:01 am

    Bart hangs his head a lot and has crappy body language, much like Coonrod. Anyone paying attention could see “blown save” written all over his face last night. He wanted to be anywhere but on that mound at that time. Why the hell is was continually looking back at the inconsequential runner at second base is beyond me, but his entire demeanor on the mound screams “head case” to me. Not good for a potential closer. Take a guy like Rod Beck, who had nowhere near the arm talent Coonrod has but who was a highly effective closer. He had that warrior mentality and refused to give in to any batter. Yeah, he could drive you nuts at times, any closer will, but he nailed it down far more often than not.

    As for Bart, it’s disappointing because body language like that speaks to a certain lack of confidence and so much of the success any player has in MLB comes down to mindset and believing he can do it. He’s shown flashes, but I hope he can get that sorted out. I’m not super impressed with him so far and his defense is subpar at this point. Very raw player for a guy who’s supposed to be so highly-touted. I suspect the Giants have been overselling him a bit.

    • snarkk said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:08 am

      One thing I’ve noticed about Bart is he does not give a good glove target. Usually, it’s fleeting, at best. Seems to me that is easy and helps the pitcher focus on pitch control and location. He’s been in the system 2 years, so this is not something that can possibly have been missed by coaching. I don’t get it…

      • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:19 am

        Tromp’s even worse at it.
        Kruk was very vocal about it early on, but not lately…

  12. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:25 am

    Next season, Bart & Posey will be like Helen Keller & Anne Sullivan…

  13. James said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:31 am

    Why Kapler is not an idiot, pt 6.

    1. I personally would have left Selman in per Stix’s lament. Or put in Peralta, saving Coonrod for Tatis, if it came to that. Either of those two scenarios is what I was really, really hoping for, just to avoid any chance for the trauma we endured. Tony Watson fucked up badly, but if he’d finished his lousy outing with an L, it would have been terrible, but, hey, that’s the way it goes sometimes. Selman and Peralta don’t have Watson’s cred, but they are both less publicly controversial than Bad Maskless Sam. And Good Sam Selman has been good most of the year.

    2. Kapler chose and stuck with Coonrod for a few reasons, I suspect:

    He had pitched well in general over the last couple of weeks, and had shut down the Rockies in the 9th with 3 Ks in our then “most important game of the year” on Tuesday after Monday’s dispiriting loss. Coonrod’s subsequent blown 7th inning save against Colorado wasn’t a result of him pitching poorly. Pillar had an IF hit and Story’s double looked like a pretty routine fly ball that fell in the LF corner because the defense was pulled way over. He was not exactly getting lit up.

    None of the 3 Padre hitters in the 9th are doing jackshit this year. Bad Sam should have eaten them up. Still, there’s always a good chance someone is going to get on in any given inning. Tatis was due up 4th. Peralta or Selman would have been questionable options against Tatis in that situation.

    And then there’s the way it played out. Pham hits a dribbler. Next guy Ks. A walk. Tatis is still slated to bat. We’ve all screamed get him out of there many times over the years, absolutely sure that the clown on the mound was going to blow it, based on our intuition and long experience watching games only to see him get out of it. Whew, dodged a bullet! Like mistake pitches that are taken or fouled off rather than “inevitably” hit out of the yard, that happens far more often than it seems.

    There are still two more games where the bullpen is likely to be taxed for several innings again.

  14. zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:39 am

    All the new catching mechanics is the way they’re being taught in the MLB organizations now. It’s happening on other teams, too. I don’t know how many, but it can be seen when watching some other teams.

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:42 am

      And I’m not saying I like the new catching mechanics. A lot of it is built around getting the glove low and bringing it up to “steal” low strikes. The teams claim they have analytics to back it up.

      • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:49 am

        Krukow backed off about it when he learned the Giants organization was requiring the new catchers to do things in that way.
        I doubt they will pressure Posey to do it that way, though.

      • willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:53 am

        another reason for roboumps. No more pitch framing nonsense.

      • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:11 am

        I’m all for the roboump balls and strikes. I’m real tired of every ump having their own strike zone.

  15. xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:43 am

    Gotta wonder if kaploss knows the meaning of the word leverage. He ain’t no Archimedes.

    Losing on a walk off in your own ballpark really hurts. Remind me of that Tom Waits song, or poem, Small Change Got Rained on With His Own .38.

    • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:52 am

      But it’s his lack of the “common sense” even the most nitwitted sports talk show caller possesses — those who actually may not know the meaning of leverage — that’s in question

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:56 am

        That’s right. His rhetorical dumb shit is really secondary. Though It’s consistent

      • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:10 am

        Maybe someone should tell him how easy it would be to be loved and admired.

  16. willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:48 am

    James I was watching pitch tracks on Coonrod vs. Rox. Pillar pulled a hard IF single off 96 fastball. Story pulled the double into the corner and almost out off 90 change. Off speed but still 90. These weren’t soft contact, Rox were on him. Then a line drive single to CF to blow the save opp. Not a good outing yet Kapler handles him ala Gott, and ultimately gets same results, walk off bomb. iirc Coonrod has a high BA against vs. LHP, over .300.

    Last night, the unforgivable sin was the walk to #9 hitter. Me, I’m going Capt Hook vs. LH Grisham, who for some reason loves hitting SF pitching. Maybe it was baseball gods karmatic payback for that one he hit before off fence in deepest triples alley that didn’t quite get out.

    • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:03 am

      Agreed Willie, they weren’t soft contact, but no one would have noticed them as particularly unlucky outs if they’d been less well-placed.

      For better or worse, Kapler didn’t want the likely lefty against Tatis match up.

  17. willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 10:51 am

    The Giants runs scored in exactly same way Pads did–IF dribbler single followed by a walk from Poms, then Wilmet’s 3 run bomb. Hitting bombs is great, but Giants still struggle at preventing them.

    • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:00 am

      How do our SPs stand v pen guys on HRs allowed? My guess–even.

      • Macdog said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:27 am

        Starters 33, relievers 32. Giants’ 65 bombs allowed is tied with A’s for 4th fewest allowed in MLB. Only the Twins (62), Indians and Braves (63 each) have less.

  18. dirtnrocksnomo said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:01 am

    Yep, that was a rough one. What’s the deal with the bagels? Is there like a main street bagel shop that the local elite frequent? Noah’s? Or just go to the Safeway bakery which is often a good choice for baked goods/sandwiches, and whatnot. Plain or everything bagel? Something in between? Get the works with salmon and everything? The world needs to know!

    • Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:11 am

      i only buy New York style bagels. this is the only place I ever go.
      https://tinyurl.com/y5vykoup

    • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:15 am

      https://boichikbagels.com/index.html

      • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:16 am

        A name readymade for Loo.

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:32 am

        that place is great. Or was. Haven’t been by in six months. They used to shut down bagel sales mid day when they sold out.

      • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:47 am

        A friend in our neighborhood had been doing an early morning run over there every couple of weeks and was supplying us. A couple of months ago, it was still going strong. Have you been here http://www.patisserierotha.com/ ? Worth the wait, especially if you buy extras and freeze them.

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:58 am

        That’s a bit rarefied for me. I lived not far away back in the eighties when fanny’s and I guess acme changed everything. If I really wanted fine carbs these days I’d probably call Nick’s Pizza and Bakery on south Shattuck.

      • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 12:17 pm

        Ahh, the croissants are for le peuple! The common sense crowd does its part in making sure the wait is never less than 15 minutes. Said friend drives all the way over to Nick’s rather than patronizing Gioia, which is right around the corner from us.

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 2:00 pm

        Discerning person. Friend of mine lives near the corner of Alcatraz and Shattuck. He says that when Nick locks up on Xmas and nys eves he leaves big stacks of boxed pizzas outside the front door for the neighbors who often can’t afford his fare.

  19. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:05 am

    I know people who slice bagels into thirds…

  20. Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:07 am

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:11 am

      At least he got a final standing ovation from the cut out crowd while pitching as a visitor at home.

    • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:15 am

      The economics of this move must make sense. Maybe sHRk will clear waivers and enjoy the PS in Sac waiting for the call? Meanwhile, Big Mama Thornton would’ve dfad coondog long ago.

    • Lurker John said, on September 26, 2020 at 12:02 pm

      GOOD!

  21. mrsprtdude said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:13 am

    Conrood has good stuff. What he needed was a Posey or experienced catcher to go out and calm him down. Why so much focus on the baserunner. Meaningless. It’s lack of veteran experience. A cost of playing the younger guys that we are often clammering for. After the agony i woke up positive. This team has bounced back from tough losses all season. Every time i think we are dead they come back. Cueto pitches well today and we win. Clinch. Just like a 2nd year or 3rd year player kap still new to it. He sucks at bullpen, but these guys play hard, are exciting, and never give up in a game. Something we could not say the last few years under Boch. Go Giants.

    • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:15 am

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:17 am

      Yeah, that was a good post for heading into tonight’s game.

  22. mrsprtdude said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:14 am

    Re Shark..WTF?? Whats the point of doing that now when the season is over tmorow???

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:15 am

      A roster spot? Add a bullpen guy.

    • snarkk said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:19 am

      Yeah, they got the last ounce of effort out of the guy, needed a body to pitch a few yesterday. Now, unlike Mrs. Peel, he’s no longer “needed” heading into the offseason or a possible first round of post season. Sudden DFA is a little rough handling, it seems, in appearance. I can’t feel too sorry for the guy. 5 years and what, $90 million later, IMHO his tenure overall was just a long “meh”…

  23. xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:18 am

    I think coondog’s 98-99 fb moves a lot more than stricknine’s did, but he can’t seem to control it.

  24. Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:20 am

    • Carstie Clausen said, on September 26, 2020 at 3:56 pm

      Posted last night that he could become a good 3-inning opener/starter. Second time through the lineup is when he started getting lit up. Maybe someone emulating Tampa Bay will pick him up for that kinda role. Who knows? He could be cut out for exactly that.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:09 pm

      For the Toledo Mudhens.

  25. zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:22 am

    Coonrod and Smarj have some similarities. They both have some good stuff, but they also hang too many pitches. They both have some natural movement, but they can’t control it very well. Smarj never got to where he needed to get to. Several teams tried to “fix” him.

  26. snarkk said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:24 am

    Baggarly tweets that last night, Coonrod refused to talk with the media. Unless there is some legit excuse, that is bush league. Sack up and face the music. If no Covid19, he’d have to work a lot harder to evade media questions. Criminy, it’s not like this media corps are attack dogs. This tells me this guy is weak and unconfident. This dude just lost my interest altogether. He can take the DFA train with Samardzxxx …

    • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:29 am

      his pastor hadn’t told him what to think yet

    • snarkk said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:48 am

      John Shea
      @JohnSheaHey
      ·
      12h
      Reporters asked to speak with Coonrod after game. Coonrod declined. The problem with that is others in the room now have to answer for him. If a player addresses the media when things are going well, he ought to be available when they don’t. Veterans notice that stuff.

  27. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:24 am

    Younger, inexperienced guys get too much slack.
    A 23 year old has been playing the same game with the same rules for 15 years.
    The level of competition and the stakes change, but that still shouldn’t impact knowing what to do – such as worrying about a meaningless base runner…

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:27 am

      Watson strangely did that, too, yesterday. He took a look at the runner at third before throwing wildly to first base. What was that all about?

    • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:28 am

      cf. Bart

    • snarkk said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:29 am

      Baseball players are creatures of habit and routine…

  28. Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:38 am

  29. alleykat69 said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:45 am

    Coondog shouldn’t even be on the roster,here is his atrocious stats for the last 30 games..

    Last 7 games…ERA 12.00 Whip 1.83
    Last 15 games..ERA 10.50 Whip 1.58
    Last 30 games.. ERA 9.82 Whip 1.64

    32 innings pitched 40 hits allowed plus 14 Walks with 36K’s
    But hey in Kappy World he has the ultimate LEVERAGE situation this team needs LMAO 🤣

  30. snarkk said, on September 26, 2020 at 11:55 am

    Giants are in post season if they win these next two.
    If they win one only, it’s depends on what the other clubs do.
    If they are swept, that’s no bueno…

  31. Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 12:14 pm

    a GREAT and FOREVER Giant

    • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 2:05 pm

      No 2012 or 2014 rings without him and I agree he’s obviously a great guy.

  32. alleykat69 said, on September 26, 2020 at 12:25 pm

    I have no problem bringing Hunter back in some capacity for the organization except as a hitting coach.
    Good luck to u Hunter as u will always be a Forever Giant..

  33. mrsprtdude said, on September 26, 2020 at 12:35 pm

    A Great Giant!!!

  34. snarkk said, on September 26, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    That’s one Pence I can respect.
    Congrats on the retirement and your contributions to two titles ! …

  35. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 12:54 pm

    I have no doubt he really is a good guy…

  36. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 1:52 pm

    1. Mike Yastrzemski (L) RF
    2. Alex Dickerson (L) LF
    3. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
    4. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    5. Wilmer Flores (R) DH
    6. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
    7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    8. Mauricio Dubon (R) CF
    9. Tyler Heineman (S) C

    • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 2:03 pm

      That LU looks surprisingly good. Who would’ve predicted it? Pitching. Pitching got us two steps from the blues.

  37. mrsprtdude said, on September 26, 2020 at 2:21 pm

    Wo would have thought Zack Davies vs j Cueto is advantage to them?? lets get some runs!!

    • Carstie Clausen said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:00 pm

      Just read it on the MLB official site today. Cueto is still dealing with hip problems. Could explain a lot. Might even be messing with his shimmy.

  38. James said, on September 26, 2020 at 2:48 pm

    The gap between LAs pitching and the rest of the NL is remarkable. They don’t have quite the same advantage at the plate. While NL offense is up overall with the DH, to this point LA’s 2020 staff is even better than 2019’s.

    • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 3:21 pm

      Looks like they’re currently +350 to win it all.
      I’d jump on that…

  39. Macdog said, on September 26, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    Mets finally eliminated — they still had a chance as long as the Giants kept losing — so that’s one less team to worry about.

  40. willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    K J Costello just threw 75 yd TD pass vs LSU for Miss. St.

    • willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 3:36 pm

      454 yds in 3 quarters playing for Mike Leach for Stanford grad transfer.

    • willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 3:44 pm

      4TDs. Bulldogs up 10 on defending national champs starting 4th.

  41. James said, on September 26, 2020 at 3:39 pm

    In order to avoid further damage to his already in shambles reputation, should Kapler simply not use any of the right handers in the bullpen? Cahill and Anderson actually have good ERA’s, but are prone to walks and the latter has been tagged for 3 HRs in 14 innings. Rogers is just a target for abuse any time he has an ugly inning. I say Gabe should stick to the lefties for his own protection.

    • willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 3:48 pm

      Rogers is not as easy to hit as he looks. Cahill I d avoid. Anderson maybe least command. Garcia looks good n might be late game option.

      • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:03 pm

        I like Rogers, few walks and HRs. It was a half-serious suggestion, looking at the manager’s options solely as a matter of limiting reputational damage to himself in case things blow up. It’s half serious because all 5 of the LHers are actually doing a good job.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:03 pm

        At this point, looking like the Z&H boys committed a remarkable pickup with Garcia. Sterling, to date. Was wondering about that myself last night. Slicker than snakeshit. He should be getting groomed for a setup role.

  42. xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:14 pm

    I know nothing about either team this year, but I’m diggin the Texas Texas Tech game.

  43. xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    Jarlin has been great.

  44. xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    And very patient with joey.

    • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:26 pm

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:29 pm

        who the fuck is that?

      • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:31 pm

        Joey!

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:45 pm

        oh, yeah, the guy who lives across the hall from the two prick teasers

      • Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:09 pm

        i mean, didn’t they end up fucking everyone except the sister fucking the brother?

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:25 pm

        I only saw the show once or twice. I have no idea if it improved into porn.

  45. xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:28 pm

    • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:31 pm

    • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:31 pm

      “Kapler said Coonrod came in after [the game] and complained that his shoulder was bothering him, adding that there was no indication before or during the outing that it was an issue.”

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:34 pm

        wait a minute — kaploss added that? He knew of “no indication . . . during the outing that [there] was an issue”? Well, fuck, I did.

      • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:39 pm

        His expectations were set by Lamet’s clear communication style.

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:44 pm

        yeah, he had no reason to believe that coondog wouldn’t do what was best for both himself and the team

  46. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:29 pm

    Did I just hear Malcolm X plays for Texas Tech?

    • Carstie Clausen said, on September 26, 2020 at 4:45 pm

      Malcom in the middle? Seemed not to be built like your typical center.

  47. Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:08 pm

    So Coondog keeps his shoulder injury quiet and blows the season for us. Nice. Fucking idiot.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:23 pm

      I don’t believe him. He’s not hurt. It’s his way of burying his head in the sand; same person who ducked the press.

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:28 pm

        You think they’d put a guy on IL who was faking it? Maybe if he flipped out and THEY needed cover.

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:28 pm

        Otherwise, it’s just coondog being coondog.

      • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:25 pm

        There;’s one game left in the season, and If they somehow stagger into the payoffs, I don’t think even Mr. Kotter pin is crazy enough to use him then.

  48. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:17 pm

    Rays tie Phils.
    That’s good, right?

  49. pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:22 pm

    Coonrod. Obviously one of those phantom injuries to allow a roster move. Does MLB have to vet injuries? Or can a team make anything up? James, I saw your “defense” of Hapless. Not sure I understood it all, but fuckit. We all know what happened. On to the next game. How can one not like ForeverGiant Hunter Pence?

  50. willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    Costello wound up with 623 yds 5 TDs as Miss St ended LSU winning streak 44-34. First L in opener by defending champ since michigan in 98. Coach Leach is trip, who occasionally gets himself in trouble; his teams are fun to watch though. He had Minshew 2 years ago at Wazzu and had local kid QB from Pacifica who put up awesome numbers there last year.
    Glad college ball is back, Pac 12 too even if they are late to party. Yeah Xoot Texas game was wild.

  51. pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    Tyler Rogers reminds me of Chad Bradford of the A’s in Moneyball. Does he scrape his knuckles on the dirt as he throws?

    • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:34 pm

      I love the 2002 draft passage in Moneyball, when the a’s pick Blanton and then the Giants pick (Cain, unnamed). It’s a pretty entertaining novel. Ingenious how Lewis almost entirely elided the five great players who actually got the a’s to the PS that year — the three main SPs and Chavez and Tejada.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:53 pm

        As someone who writes non-fiction, I admire how entertaining and accessible Michael Lewis makes everything, with the energy and pace of a novel. (I’ve read Liar’s Poker but no others, yet.) The PB edition I have has a new postscript. Doesn’t make Joe Morgan look too brilliant. He thought Billy Beane wrote it. When informed otherwise, in writing, he still thought Beane wrote it. Just today I read the bit about the postseason. At the time of writing, one expert postulated that the worst team in baseball has a 15% chance of beating the best team in a five-game series. The postseason is termed a “crapshoot” because of its small sample size. However, I feel that thinking has changed. Managers have finally learned to manage differently in the postseason.

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:17 pm

        I’m sorry to hear that Lewis piled on Joe Morgan. He took enough heat at the time. Led to his dismissal from Sunday night baseball. Jon Miller soon quit that gig. The inside story has never been told far as I know. But no one listened to Joe for stats. He was also very charming but serious every year when he showed up at my kid’s elementary school during Black history month.

  52. zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    Kelli Johnson nears the end of her time with the Giants TV network.. She’s being let go. She did a good job, IMO. I don’t know what the network’s issue with her was.

    • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:06 pm

      My guess: She made Shawn and Rich and by extension some viewers feel uncomfortable with her fervent advocacy amidst one of our recent cultural moments.

      • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:11 pm

        I hadn’t thought of that.

  53. Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    this one was never in doubt.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:55 pm

      As someone tweeted, so that’s a no on Coonrod.

  54. Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:51 pm

    Coon dog gonna coon, amirite?

  55. Macdog said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    Congrats to Yaz. I wonder if the Red Sox have a Carl Yaz award?

  56. pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    I forgot to mention another observation from Chris Haft at the Zoom event the other night. He did not refer to Bobby Evans in glowing terms. I forget the words, but something about Evans’s people skills. And clearly Haft was straining to be diplomatic and polite.

    Which leads me to ask: where’s Sabean these days?

  57. pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    Rays up 4-2 on Phils in 6th; Brewers 3-0 vs. Cards in 7th.

    • willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:05 pm

      Thanks. Giants need to win to stay ahead of Brewers for 8 spot.

  58. zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    “Which leads me to ask: where’s Sabean these days?”

    He’s got an advisory position in the Giants organization. Maybe Evans, too.

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:17 pm

      • Flavor said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:18 pm

        he’s Kramer with a briefcase of crackers. Neither of those two worked much, aye?

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:59 pm

        Kramer had a gig as a dept store SClaus one year just before Xmas. He said something about there being no real Santa Claus My four year old was stunned. (We watched Seinfeld together every week) I covered, best I could. It was what 8.15 in the evening? Larry David knew damn good n well what he was doing. A cultural moment, as they say.

  59. James said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    That strike call to Flores … these guys are not up to the job in this day and age.

  60. James said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    Davies looks like the Tim Lincecum who learned how to pitch without a fastball.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:48 pm

      Greg Maddux Redux.

  61. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:52 pm

    3 innings, and don’t let the door hit you in the ass for Smargle?

    Suits me just fine. The Brett Tomko of the here and now.

    As for fucking CornDog, he should be on the Dixie Queen toi Sacto. He claims he’s hurt now?

    Fuck him. I just don’t fucking get the insistence of Kapler on a) putting him in there, and b) leaving him in there after he was struggling to even find the zone.

    Twin was alway wont to say that managers only really affect the outcome of 3-4 games a season. I count 6 Kapler has hosed in this shorty of a season.

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:59 pm

      You think this team should be 7 games over .500 right now?

      • James said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:00 pm

        Thank you, Zumie.

      • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:10 pm

        At least 4.

    • willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:06 pm

      Giants gave Smrdz a shot to start a game, very fair move. It was same old same old couple decent innings and then loud contact, 3 runs. Off what they saw, not ready for any post season work.

  62. pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    How much to put up a cutout? Let’s chip in together to celebrate the Sun-Drenched Goddess.

  63. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    Davies checking out the double rainbow out there.

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:02 pm

      I’ve heard it can be hard to see pop-ups in the twilight. That’s just something I’ve heard.

      • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:09 pm

        I’ve heard that when the lights start casting strong shadows around the players feet and so forth twilight is over.

      • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:10 pm

        When the moon is in the 7th house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars . . .

  64. Macdog said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    Phillies lose.

  65. willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:02 pm

    dang when Tatis jr. gets one there is no doubt.

  66. zumiee said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    Padres first base coach has his nose sticking out of his mask. He’s kind of missing the concept.
    When I go to a grocery store, I feel like I’m in a futuristic game show as I try to avoid people that have their noses sticking out of their masks.

  67. pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    pull Cueto NOW

  68. willedav said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    Nola was good pick up for them; guy can hit. Godson says he’s OK defensively too.

  69. xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    Is 5 innings 3 runs still a 2020 quality start?

  70. Macdog said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    Keeping in mind the pitching stinks, but the Pads have really battered the Giants this season, 48 runs in 8 games entering tonight and well on their way to another big game.

    • xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:26 pm

      So the Giants need 7 to win? Well at least they play nine tonight.

  71. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    Doesn’t look like they’ve shaken off last night, does it?

  72. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    Just not feeling it tonight.

    I think we go quietly into that good night.

  73. Charles Talbert Blanchard said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    Game Over

    • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:24 pm

  74. xoot said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    Baggs isn’t pulling punches these days

    • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:28 pm

      He’s actually protesting Dick Williams pitching Jim Lonborg on 2 days rest in Game 7 for Grampa’s ’67 Red Sox…

  75. James said, on September 26, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    If only Dick Williams were alive to console Kap.


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