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Fake Ratings?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 29, 2020

This surprises me:

I don’t know a lot about ratings. Do they still have the Nielson ratings? I wonder if that’s an outdated way of gathering data. With the explosion of different ways people now watch sporting events I would question the accuracy of ratings we see now. Honestly, I can’t remember the last time I watched a sporting event on my tv. It’s been months. Everything is watched on a device now.

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  1. unca_chuck said, on October 29, 2020 at 7:59 am

    65″ TV or 15″ monitor, or 8″ phone? Hmmmmmm. I rarely don’t watch sports on TV. Esp the last 6 months.

  2. willedav said, on October 29, 2020 at 8:05 am

    Ah noted lack of big market East Coast teams there on that list, except for phils, Cubs too. Numbers likely very different had not Brosseau knocked Yanks out of it. I enjoyed whole post season myself–Yanks-Rays, Stros run, Dodgers-Pads yada yada. lot of good baseball, exciting players and some wild endings.

    MLBTR noted upcoming deadline dates. Nov 1 QO must be offered to pending free agents. Nov 2 marks start of free agency and Nov 20 all teams must finalize 40 man. Speculation is there will lot of non tenders as teams try to limit expenses and they’ve already noted this has happened to some players, so could potentially be lot more to choose from in market.

  3. djloo27 said, on October 29, 2020 at 8:08 am

    What happened to everyone who was supposedly so sports-starved and quarantined?
    NBA ratings were for shit, too…

  4. djloo27 said, on October 29, 2020 at 8:12 am

    I have no idea what Matt Duffy’s current situation is, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s in our dugout next season waiting for the inevitable injury to Longoria…

  5. Pasalon said, on October 29, 2020 at 8:12 am

    I know a thing or two about Nielsen ratings.

    Flavor, you know me pretty well, but I’ve always had to keep a secret from you. I, your good friend Pasalon, was a Nielsen household until earlier this year. Yes, it’s true! But I couldn’t tell you, I couldn’t tell my closest friends or family, I couldn’t brag about it on social. They make you sign a confidentiality agreement. Only now that I’m out of the program, can I share this story with you and Flapnation.

    In 2019 there was a friendly knock on the door. A man with Nielsen introduced himself and asked if I was Dave Anderson. My interest piqued, I excitedly confirmed my identity and urged him to come inside. Over the next 30 minutes he described the method that Nielsen proposed to gather my family’s viewing habits, and there was a financial incentive. It was my lucky day.

    We went through the house and installed a small monitoring device next to each of the TVs in the house. They took detailed information about the make and model of the TV, which room it was in, and made sure that the device was working properly. It was explained to me that it listened to the content coming from the TV to determine what was being watched. He had a nifty little computer device to ensure that everything was in order. Indeed, everything was in order.

    The next 18 months were some of the most carefree of my life (global pandemic notwithstanding).

    I would field a monthly call from Ken, a friendly field data analist calling from Nielsen in Orlando, FL, asking to confirm if all the demographic information in my household was up to date. Most of the time nothing would change. But during one call I disclosed that my daughter moved back home from college earlier this year. He was keenly interested in this breaking news, as she has a TV in her room. I could hear the keyboard clacking away in the background as he duly noted this important change.

    I was riding this sweet wave. I was a media insider. A hollywood elite. I felt like my 15 year old self again. There was a new pep in my stride, confidence beaming at every turn. I have a semi-famous friend I met when I worked in a music store in Palo Alto during my youth. Hershel plays lead guitar for Chris Isaak, and he told me that musicians get ‘mailbox money’ – royalty checks that just show up in the mail. Nielsen was sending me $18 every 90 days, and now I was part of this upper class of society. We’re talking Mailbox Money, baby! Found money. Walking around money.

    Maybe I got a little too big for my britches. Those calls from Ken had his caller ID which would ultimately be his and my undoing. As time went by, I didn’t have any new TVs to report, no more changes in my household, and I started sending Ken to voicemail. His messages were getting more desperate – please call him back. I could hear an emotion in his voice that I had not heard in our periodic conversations. Sorry Ken. You’re one of those guys I used to know before I got famous.

    Earlier this year I received a certified letter that I would no longer be a Nielsen household. Fedex delivered pre-paid return boxes for the monitoring devices. My world came crashing down. I went through the various stages of denial, anger, and finally acceptance. I sent them back. The quarterly payments have all but dried up. I am empty and I wander aimlessly through the days. Colors seem less saturated and nothing tastes as good as it used to and my loved ones are asking me if I’m ok more often than they used to.

    I am only able to share this story with you all since I am no longer in the program nor bound by their burdensome NDA. Fuck Nielsen and their invasive listening technology. Yes, Flavor, Nielsen is still a thing, but like that song from Gotye, they’re just somebody I used to know.

    • Flavor said, on October 29, 2020 at 8:28 am

      holy shit.

      • xoot said, on October 29, 2020 at 9:17 am

        Flap HOF?

      • Flavor said, on October 29, 2020 at 9:28 am

        already there. #73

      • djloo27 said, on October 29, 2020 at 10:33 am

        Where you been hiding this nut?

      • Flavor said, on October 29, 2020 at 11:38 am

        I stash him away in Reno

    • Winder said, on October 29, 2020 at 8:44 am

      That was informative. I wouldn’t want anyone who I don’t know accrue so much knowledge of myself and families habits. I guess I just like my ;privacy.

    • zumiee said, on October 29, 2020 at 9:54 am

      Awesome post, Pasalon

    • gianthead said, on October 29, 2020 at 10:23 am

      That is GOLD!!

  6. Flavor said, on October 29, 2020 at 8:38 am

    considering this is just some dumbass thurs night football game this is an incredible commercial

    • unca_chuck said, on October 29, 2020 at 9:59 am

      Quite the hype for what is usually the shittiest game of the week.

      That being said, we play Green Bay a week from today.

      I will say, the new Hummer EV ad is quite impressive.

      • unca_chuck said, on October 29, 2020 at 10:06 am

        The beginning is cool but this one is way too long, but if you are interested in a truck that costs $115,000 this is your deal. 1,000 HP electric truck? Nutty. For the 4 wheeling geeks out there, their suspension is off the charts cool.

        My 22 year old land cruiser can do 98% of this stuff, but whatever. Still a cool ad and a pretty bad ass truck. .

  7. gianthead said, on October 29, 2020 at 10:17 am

    Oddly sports viewership for playoffs have been at historical lows during Covid and even think NFL ratings are down. I would have bet all my money with everyone cooped up for months that ratings would have been through the roof. Nielsen still exists and believe they account for viewing on mobile platforms etc. In a digital world much easier to track viewer habits.

    Interesting to note that a certain Fox News segment (I am being a-political here), hit the highest average rating for any cable show in history as I understand at an average of 5 million viewers. That seems insane to me….

    • Flavor said, on October 29, 2020 at 10:24 am

      that was my point of this thread. i don’t think it’s down I think the rating system is antiquated and they actually have no idea how many people are watching these events on their devices (either through pirated sites or otherwise)

  8. Macdog said, on October 29, 2020 at 10:32 am

  9. alleykat69 said, on October 29, 2020 at 11:10 am

    And I thought the Nielsen ratings were only created for the late great Leslie Nielsen!
    His roles in Comedy Airplane,Naked Gun,Police Squad (tv series which was funny as hell that u had to watch closely are u would miss some highlight reels)actually decades of great acting in multiple roles…

    • unca_chuck said, on October 29, 2020 at 12:21 pm

      Funny, the stuff I first remember him for were the serious roles he did in Poseidon Adventure and cop/spy shows.

  10. willedav said, on October 29, 2020 at 11:59 am

    Dang White Sox hire LaRussa. They were a cool looking team with some exciting young players…but why go old fart? Couple bloggers on MLBTR wondered if Bochy had been contacted. That would have been fun.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 29, 2020 at 12:22 pm

      I guess Tony figured since they are going with juiced balls, it’s time to get back into it.

  11. alleykat69 said, on October 29, 2020 at 12:51 pm

    Not a shocking move considering Chairman Jerry Reinsdorff has had a man crush with LaRussa going sill the way back when he managed the Whitesox’s from 79-86.He always regretted later that GM Hawk Harrelson fired him. So this call of LaRussa clearly has Jerry making it hands down.
    Still with geezers like Baker&Maddon around there should be room for Bochy wth he’s only 65..

  12. djloo27 said, on October 29, 2020 at 1:06 pm

    You would think a geezer might be more Covid conscious…

    • alleykat69 said, on October 29, 2020 at 1:59 pm

      Yeah Right!
      Speaking of Geezers is Phil Regan 83 still the pitching coach of the Mets?
      I heard on a talk show he got his nickname “The Vulture” because like the Mets he’s a dead carcass on the side of the road..

      • Winder said, on October 29, 2020 at 2:30 pm


  13. mrsprtdude said, on October 29, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    Not sure what pasalon does for work but i hope it’s in comedy of some sort! HOF for sure!

    • Winder said, on October 29, 2020 at 7:16 pm

      Looks like everyone is dumping older players. I wish we could get rid of a few more. I think we should re-sign Gausman though. i think he still has some life left in him.

      • alleykat69 said, on October 29, 2020 at 7:28 pm

        Yeah I would love for the Giants to dump some geezers as well, lord knows they are easily one of the oldest teams in baseball.Problem is the billionaires are tighter then a virgin when its time to give it up..

      • unca_chuck said, on October 29, 2020 at 7:35 pm

        I’ve wanted Belt and Crawfish gone going on 2.5 seasons now, but it ain’t gonna happen. Although Belt did raise his trade possibility this year. Houston still looks like a good spot.

  14. unca_chuck said, on October 29, 2020 at 7:14 pm

    Never seen this pic before. Aftermath of the shot heard ’round the world.

    • djloo27 said, on October 29, 2020 at 7:48 pm

      Think they banged a couple of Instagram models later that night?

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