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Dark Winter Ahead

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 4, 2020

Larry Kreuger was on twitter last week begging the Niners to trade Pettis for John Ross. I laughed out loud at that one. Who would TRADE anything for Dante Pettis? Sure, Ross is a bust but not at the same level as Pettis. Kreug’s is one of those classic Bay Area talking heads who overvalues Bay Area guys just because he knows their name and their draft slot.

Well, the Breeders Cup is nearly upon us. Now that the Niners season is over and our country has proven to be filled with a bunch of in-bred dumbfuck racist mean losers, the BC is my main focus for the next week.

I don’t want to hear about votes that still need to be counted or who is ultimately going to claim the presidency. This shouldn’t have been this close. Our country has shown it’s true colors and they are gross and disgusting. I hate most of America today.

Let’s take the ban off political talk today. I might regret that but it’s easy to fix if it gets out of hand. Nobody cares about your personal political take. NOBODY. I am interested in hearing about your take on how this race ended up being this close. I get why Hilary lost in 2016. Everyone hated her and Trump sold the country a bag of goods on what he could do for them. But after watching this shit show for 4 years how can anyone who isn’t racist or stupid vote for this lunatic? Seriously, I don’t get this at all………

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  1. willedav said, on November 4, 2020 at 7:18 am

    Reminds me too much of 60s scare tactics and Nixon/Reagan era. Affordable universal health care=radical socialism. BLM, wow these same issues such as voting rights were unsettled by likes of MLK and other leaders of black political thought. Read stories about black athletes playing minor league baseball in South and who couldn’t stay or eat at hotels in Florida with white teammates for spring training.
    . Anti science? Our (Pentagon) scientists said Agent Orange wasn’t harmful and allowed Dow Chemical to produce napalm we saturated a tiny third world country with. Don’t get me started on “they will take away all your guns”
    Love it or leave it goes way back and I remember times of not standing for anthems at Stick 40 years ago.

    Instead of solving issues like environment, education and health care we’ve only polarized them along political lines drawn in the sand. And compromise (rejecting party line) is equated with sleeping with enemy. More sad than anything else. When americans were dying of AIDS, one of the few medical products that helped them survive were cannibinoids and we still haven’t got around to seeing medical benefits therein, while truly dangerous drugs like opioids have terrorized all levels of society.

    • unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:19 am

      This partisanship really ramped up under Reagan. and has been the republican mantra since. They are the minority party and can only garner votes by instilling fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) into the populace. This seems to always strike a nerve with the low-education types time and again. THe new wrench in this is Trump joining the government and attacking its values from the inside.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on November 4, 2020 at 9:20 am

        Chuck. The major values of the permanent government (forget the presidency—a few grams of lead on 11-22-63 was the object lesson there) are aggression abroad on behalf of the WarDefense industry and repression at home, to keep the deplorables in line and to keep the law n’ order racket rolling in sleeze and grease.

      • James said, on November 4, 2020 at 10:00 am

        The deplorables are the problem. The polite, quiet, plain folks who don’t countenance disorder and who, in another context, would have been happy to vote for Adolf to set things right.

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 10:30 am

        My father (RIP) didn’t graduate HS and he despised Trump. What’s your idea of education?

      • unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 11:52 am

        Look at the numbers for white non-college graduates. It’s around 65% Trump. His biggest voting block.

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 12:03 pm

        so a “college” degree is educated? ok.

      • unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 7:17 pm

        I’m talking your basic rural farm boy who never leaves town and doesn’t know anything about anything.

  2. willedav said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:01 am

    Since SDawg brought it up yesterday, still think Gausman topic is fascinating. He and Smyly were coming off less than stellar seasons and thinking was if they panned out Z could flip them for prospects to help with rebuild. Instead, they both now seem like guys team wants to hold onto to shore up pitching.

    I can see how extended and more normal type of ST could help Cueto (and anyone else) return to being more reliable and better while working off regular routine than what he showed last season. But Giants surely aren’t keeping him around beyond 2021, so whoinell else starts?
    Smyly started i think 4 games this year—how many could he start 2021 and still be effective? For that matter you could say same thing about Gausman–he was OK for couple months (and did miss a turn or two), but how would he hold up over 6 months and 30 starts, as basically a 2 pitch guy?
    Webb obviously has lot to work on, Beede didn’t pitch at all, the top level prospects with minors experience Hjelle and Corry didn’t either.
    So are Giants stuck paying going rate to keep Gausman Smyly Tyler Anderson? For how many years? What’s the alternative–going after high priced FAs like Stroman Bauer etc.?

    • Flavor said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:09 am

      Yeah, when you pitching crop below sucks you got to pay up to stay competitive.

    • unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:26 am

      Right. They prolly won’t hold up spectacularly over the long haul, but we certainly can’t throw money at the big names. We roll with those mid-level guys and hope Anderson/Webb/??? can hold down the back end.

      The same predicament applies to the hitters. Will Belt, Crawfish, Dick Dick Dick Wilburrrrr, and Yaz hit like they did over 162 games? Doubtful. But we also aren’t going to be able to trade these guys. Unless Belt comes out of the gate on fire and we can trade him to Houston. Fish to the Yanks? Posey is a big question mark. Hopefully he has gotten his body mended and can at least provide a little power over his 100 games.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on November 4, 2020 at 9:26 am

      With so many teams experiencing financial difficulties due to the plandemic, while the Giants are in relatively good shape in that aspect, our D & H vultures are poised to pounce. Big name pitchers likely are not on their radar screens. What they will watch for are the overlooked types, a strategy which served them well with Gausman and Smyly. Biggest moves and bucks out may be for a couple of high-end R.P.’s. Make that bullpen into a solid dam and the team might get by okay with starters who give up three ernies in 5 I.P.

  3. Macdog said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:08 am

    Jersey voted to legalize weed, so it’s not all bad!

    • chipower9 said, on November 4, 2020 at 9:50 am

      LOL…Whoop! Smoke ’em if ya got ’em!

    • James said, on November 4, 2020 at 10:03 am

      The coastal elites are awaiting Biden’s repeal of the tariffs on European wines.

  4. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:28 am

    And we cut Pettis yesterday. Why Shanny thought it would be a good idea to try him as a KR for the first time in the middle of a division game halfway through the season is a bit odd, but hey, that’s how it goes. Fuck.

    • willedav said, on November 4, 2020 at 9:40 am

      Pettis is sad case. I used to watch him tear up Pac 12 at UW, for returns (set some kind of record for TDs) and receiving. Couldn’t handle next level, where DBs are all sprinters too and whatever athletic advantage he might have had earlier no longer is there to fall back on.

      Read interesting story on phone ESPN did on Bama wideout Devonta Smith. As HS junior he was 140 lbs., injured and couldn’t help his team who lost state title. He bulked up worked on routes and concentration to catch ball and now is one of best in country. And just like in HS has “unfinished business” to get Bama back on top.

  5. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:41 am

    Truth be told, this comes down to stupid white people. It ALWAYS comes down to stupid white people who believe what the Republicans say. The low-information low-education voter. The Republican party is a regional party with the South as its base, but they get 90% of the rural white vote across the US. Trump destroys the US soybean farming industry, yet they are still voting for him. Because he gets them a $12 billion bailout. They win by lying, cheating, gerrymandering, and suppressing the vote whenever possible.

    And fuck the evangelicals. Trump has exposed them as gargantuan hypocrites.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on November 4, 2020 at 9:39 am

      Chuck–you are over the top on your predilections. Suburban soccer moms were the single largest supporters of the Democrat ticket. Edjumacated women, many with an overdone agenda of trying to out-man the guys…most of them with fluff degrees and totally innocent of a lick of common sense. Consumers to the max—also very stressed out due to serious overloads of work on the job and at home. They tend to vote on the basis of emotional apprehensions. Trump is an asshole and is not afraid to act like he feels. So their votes were primarily determined by non-rational perspectives…or should I re-phrase that and say their emotions tend to over-ride their rationality.

      The other side is , as you put it, comprised of “low education” voters. As for low information, I would say low levels of propaganda memes constantly and consistently spouted over the corporate mainscream media. However dense rural folks might seem to you, they do know how to get the job done and do possess basic horse sense.

      I’m an artistic, intellectual countryman and though I might be on different wavelengths from most of those folks, I do know how they think and feel.

      Yes, those Southern frybrains are pretty crazed by being drenched in religion, yet they are generally productive members of society for the most part and (except for some of those preachers) can generally spot a phony from a mile off. Even so, the Harris-Biden ticket did carry Buncombe County, North Carolina.

      • willedav said, on November 4, 2020 at 9:50 am

        Stix I can’t agree with most of your first paragraph. The women I’m familiar with have useful degrees, work in tech or schools or medical/financial planning, or run a business and their children are motivated to be well rounded and educated as well. They have to run a household, and keep hubby if there is one and family together and organized, no small task.

        Emotions have to take a back seat to daily job of taking care of business at home work and play. They are highly rational and for most part see Trump as someone working against the best interests of themselves and their family.

      • chipower9 said, on November 4, 2020 at 9:52 am

        Agree with you on this point, Willedav…

      • unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 9:59 am

        Sure, I’m oversimplifying, but not by much. Productive or not, the main stance of folks in the south is to piss off liberals. That has been Trump’s only agenda item. Other than rolling back everything Obama did. And your views on women and their liberal arts degrees is a bit archaic.

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 10:20 am

        Yeah there’s nothing fluff about the many women lawyers and professors and doctors and so forth that I know. Some are hot, though.

  6. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:45 am

    Look at Kentucky. They rank dead last in just about every measurable metric where it comes to living there, and fucking turtle-head Mitch wins by a landslide. He’s the most evil person in this government.

    He’s the architect of the destruction of our democracy. There are around 600 bills on is desk he wouldn’t even bring to the floor of the Senate for a vote, dating back to 2010 when the Repubs took the Senate. Mr Purple hands needs to go but it looks like even if Biden wins, the Senate stays with the Grim Reaper.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on November 4, 2020 at 9:59 am

      Can’t disagree about McConnell. He has been blackmailed ever since he went into higher levels of politrix. At the same time he has become a multi-multi millionaire. He goes along to get along, and boy does he get along. Except for Lexington and Louisville, the major urban centers, rural Kentucky voted all red.

      Kentuckians are a folk culture. I got to know a bunch of them when I was down. My favorite was John Boone–a direct descendant of the frontiersman. He has been the focal figure of a couple of books about his bunch. They call themselves the Cornbread Mafia.

      Take a listen to Dylan’s magisterial “Copper Kettle” with the most plangent line of “we ain’t paid no whiskey tax since 1792.” Boone’s boys are ALL descended from moonshiners. In the 60’s and 70’s they started growing the “Wildwood Flower” in their corn patches and such. Most of them have done time. Boone ran from the feds some years back, took a cigarette boat across the St. Lawrence river and joined up with the Canuckistan branch of the Mohawk nation for several years. He was protected by the tribe, They respected him for his guts and his non-racist spirit of independence. There are a couple books out about the Cornbread Mafia, with Boone gracing the cover.

      Another Kentuckian I met up with, Doc, a former Marine, who grew up dirt-poor, got himself a nursing degree and a pilot’s license. He bought him some land, which he farmed very studiously. He also opened up a couple of clinics and along the line got to be worth several million. The feds took him down. His conviction was predicated on selling a drug that at the time was not illegal. He may have sold other pharmas through the doctors he hired. I didn’t ask and he didn’t tell. The feds took everything from him,,land, home, personal property—everything. The court procedures were deeply corrupted and recently the feds offered to return some $5M to him. When he gets out his plan is to raise honeybees and earthworms. He has a keen understanding of market trends and an incredible work-ethic. By the way—he utterly detests McConnell.

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 10:15 am

        I lived on Boone St in Berea KY when I went to sixth grade there.

    • unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 10:05 am

      McConnell has severely crippled this democracy with his 10 years of obstructing the will of the people, and his subsuming of the Republican party to the will of Trump.

  7. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:46 am

    -end of rant-

  8. xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 10:12 am

    This close election is as bad as if Biden lost outright. Forty per cent of the voters in this country support the Republican, right wing agenda without comprehending it at all. And the republicans have most of the money in the world on their side, too. We’re a nation of greed and aggression, transcendently smooth and rapacious at the top; terrifyingly mean and ignorant at the bottom. Watch your back. Nearly twenty million guns were sold in the run up to Tuesday. In the weeks ahead, hordes of people will suffer and many will die because they attended a mask-optional shoulder to shoulder trump rally near the end of the campaign. And they will infect many others.

    We the people are fucking assholes. We are not competent to decide our own fate.

    But I’m hungover. I stuck to tequila, which always helps, but it was a long night. Maybe I’ll be more sanguine if I can find a bowl of good pozole. Stay safe, Flappers.

    • unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 11:22 am

      Well, it isn’t as bad is if Trump won. We ain’t there yet, but I certainly feel little better this morning.

      The estimate is that Trump’s raliies as of now have infected 30,000 people and killed 700 according to a Stanford study.

    • willedav said, on November 4, 2020 at 11:49 am

      ah highly recommend pozole. Used to be local guy with family member chef that would periodically sell out of his car in downtown where I work. Man that was good and he had whole bag full of add ons–radishes limes and something akin to slaw. sabroso $6 for large milk shake size container.
      Haven’t been able to find anything comparable either, couple years now.

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 11:58 am

        oh, the add ins are the key. hot rojo paste, radish slices, grated cabbage, chopped onion, dry mexicano oregano and deep fried corn tortillas broken and mixed in like crackers. And always the lime. There’s a dive on the corner of El Camino and Fair Oaks, in the tiny strip mall across EC from In n Out, that serves pretty good pozole. (Well, this time last year they did.) The jukebox music is loud, though. I have my favorites spots here in the east bay. For an upscale joint, Cactus Taqueria in Berkeley is ok, but you have to be careful. Sometimes they skimp on the chunks of pork and you need to demand more. Their beer selection’s not bad.

  9. James said, on November 4, 2020 at 10:42 am

    The 40 percent are everywhere. Some other democracies at least seem to have structures in place to limit the damage they can do. I would never underestimate the racial component. Sure, Kentucky has terrible metrics and they pull in the federal $$$. But who’s suffering, and to whom is the “charity” flowing? Same thing with Covid. The benighted white working class is very aware of who’s more likely to be infected and die: the others, the whiners who storm the borders, the whole range of non-whites who get into trouble with the police because of their bad behavior, and then incite mayhem when a few suffer inordinate, but understandable consequences for their unjustified disruptions. Opioid misuse isn’t a sign of any shared class suffering; it’s merely an inconvenient tragedy.

    • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 11:23 am

      well, as a wise man once said, false consciousness is an equal opportunity benighter. I’m still trying to make sense of my local news, but it appears that two rival East Oakland gangs got into a shootout last night when they both tried to loot and pillage the same marijuana dispensaries. They figured the police would be busy elsewhere. The scheme worked earlier in the year, when the cops were busy with the big demos downtown. The small, friendly shop that I favor (Magnolia) probably got hit again.

      • James said, on November 4, 2020 at 12:01 pm

        Bourgeoisie of the World, Unite!

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:19 pm

        postmodern victims of climate change hunker down.

  10. willedav said, on November 4, 2020 at 11:43 am

    I think Loo brought this up last week, but just read a story on Yahoo Sports from SNY re: Yanks trading for Crawford, to improve defense at SS, bring a LH bat into predominantly RH order, and add vet presence of someone with WS ring.

    • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:02 pm

      Semien? Did I hear someone mention Semien?

  11. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 11:56 am

    Belt toi Houston and Fish to NYY has been the mantra for a while now. After they both id pretty well last short season, go for it. Their value will only go down.

  12. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 11:58 am

    Got to love Trump saying “keep counting in AZ and NEV, but top counting in Michigan, Pennsylvania, NC, and GA.”

    He’s already lining up the lawyers .

    • Carstie Clausen said, on November 4, 2020 at 7:48 pm

      Caught Zevon at Jessie Ventura’s Inaugural Ball at Target Center back in the day. The crowd went wild when Jesse upped to the mike wearing his feather boa and launched into “Werewolves of London”. Totally memorable. Much more so than Trump would ever dream of brassing off his major financial backers, Jesse was pretty close to being a true populist.

      I convinced 11 others to vote fore him against the two suits, including HH Humpfree’s worthless son, Skip and I forget the Repugnican. When offered plain talk from both the gut and the heart, a plurality of Minnesotan’s voted Jesse in. If Trump weren’t owned and playing his role, had he kicked Pence in the ass and chose Jesse as his insurance policy, Trump’s fatal big mouth would have been totally overshadowed by a guy who totally called it as he saw it.

      Ventura has two or three books out and is holing up in Mexico from what I last heard. Dude is definitely persona non grata with both the Deep $tate and Deep Media.

  13. Winder said, on November 4, 2020 at 12:45 pm

    It’s all about the billions the 1%ers will make on the tax cuts. Fuck everyone else. Money doesn’t talk it swears.(BD). What’s rather funny about all this is the morons who voted for Trump pretty much just gave away their kids and grandkids safety nets and probably futures for many.

    • djloo27 said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:15 pm

  14. djloo27 said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:17 pm

    Kamala is fuckin’ hot!

    • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:18 pm

      Livelier than Melania, too

      • djloo27 said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:20 pm

        I’m happy for Melania.
        She didn’t sign up for this…

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:40 pm

        I still say Frank’s brother stole his thunder. I saw that scene two or three times yesterday. The suicide stuff and the Marat bathtub bit didn’t move the needle, either. “I’m going to find out what the hell happened here!” Great line.

      • djloo27 said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:48 pm

      • unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:50 pm

        I give Melania 2 weeks before she takes Barron to Slovenia, never to be heard from again.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on November 4, 2020 at 7:49 pm

        Willie Brown would say “Amen” to that.

  15. willedav said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:39 pm

    Xoot thx for tip on s’vale place. I remember going in taqueria there (10-12 yrs ago), big enough for sit down tables. Used to have an apt btw Old SF Rd. and Olive, in behind 7-11, near Ellis school. Good Pozole more than worth my time to investigate.
    I did find CD version at local lib of Mr. Bland’s 2 steps from Blues, nice compilation of early Duke stuff…title cut don’t cry no more, pity the fool, close to you, st. james. good stuff

    • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 1:47 pm

      It’s a dive, muy tipico, but I like it. If you go, take a peek at the liquor store next door. (If it’s still there.) That has to be a money laundering front.

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:04 pm

        Bobby Blue. Talk about distinctive. btw I happened to see that the singer Jewel belongs to that AK Fox River bush clan on the tv. They are strong, likable people. Wonder how they voted.

      • willedav said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:15 pm

        did you see the NYT story on money laundering Turks that were to be prosecuted by present cabinet? Supposedly investigation went all the way up to Erdogan’s family and at least they had enough to get them to admit wrongdoing and pay fines up to $2 billion. All quashed by Incumbent (who does do biz over there with resort hotel etc.) at behest of Erdogan himself, with Mnuchin firing those who did the investigations.
        If Nate 538 and others are right and we have new Admin, love to see further investigations like this into wrongdoing/influence buying corruption beyond his taxes.

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:30 pm

        The prison barber won’t flatter the crook. Can’t wait to see those photos. Mussolini chin thrust will not help.

  16. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:12 pm

    It still baffles me to no end that so many people vote against their better interests time and time and time again.

    The Republicans over the past 40 years have systematically taken away all the safety nets that used to be in place for those struggling in America. Was there corruption? Sure, were people gaming the system? Sure. Say, maybe 20% of the money for social services was misappropriated or mismanaged. The republicans have busted unions, shipped millions of jobs overseas (talking to you, Dubya), cut worker benefits, all at the hand of serving corporate profits.

    But the graft going on at the highest levels of government (remember the $20 BILLION in cash that took 10 Starlifters to carry to Iraq that vanished? $1,200 toilet seats? $500 aspirins? Acres of $100 million Abrahams tanks rusting away in the AZ desert not ordered or needed, etc.) is the issue. But do the people care? No. Trump has actively fucked the poor over and now wants to take away their health care. But they’ll keep voting for him. Because a draft-dodging guy born with 10 gold spoons in his mouth is the man of the people and he understands your pain.

    He wouldn’t piss on these folks that voted for him if they were on fire. But, again, they still vote for him.

    • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:35 pm

      My favorite band back then.

      • Winder said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:43 pm

        That was fantastic. I forgot all about them.

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:53 pm

        I’m tempted to post “I Don’t Want To,” for political reasons. But instead I offer this. Notice the great Lee Allen on tenor sax. “He taught the Blasters how to play when we were little bitty babies,” said Phil, at one show I attended.

      • James said, on November 4, 2020 at 3:19 pm

        The show at the Berkeley Square with the piano player is in my top 10. Caught them at the Mabuhay right when the first record on Rolling Rock came out. They were never less than great. I miss that band. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pM6W8Uf20mg

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 3:44 pm

        I saw them at the Berkeley Square. About a hundred yards from my apt circa 81. And the B Keystone and sf keystone and old Waldorf etc etc. we probably bumped into each other!

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 3:48 pm

        Ive heard that early mahbuhay recording. Hilarious. You’re not our usual audience. You look like you’re interested in the music.

      • James said, on November 5, 2020 at 8:22 am

        Yep, I didn’t miss many of their shows around here. Too bad we can’t meet on purpose at one of them now.

    • Winder said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:37 pm

      I think the most common graft is through the lobbyists and the senate.

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:43 pm

        well, lobbyists are just doing their job.

      • Winder said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:44 pm

        zoot- i don’t know what that means

      • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:45 pm

        I rephrased it.

    • willedav said, on November 4, 2020 at 3:17 pm

      fear and loathing is what they believe though Unc.
      What are dems for?
      higher taxes and they will use them to help homeless bums and make others poorer
      they are for illegal aliens and immigrants who will steal jobs and bring crime into where you live
      they will take away your guns and make it more difficult to buy more of them
      they are soft on crime and OK with rioters and robbers but not law and order protection for peaceful citizens
      they are in favor of environment over development which costs more jobs

      It’s scare tactics that appeal to American xenophobia who believe all above nonsense

  17. Macdog said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:18 pm

    NY Giants claimed Pettis, lulz.

    • Winder said, on November 4, 2020 at 2:38 pm

      Good place for him.

  18. djloo27 said, on November 4, 2020 at 3:06 pm

    Pettis Norman’s dropped pass is one of my earliest football memories…

  19. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 4:13 pm

    Xoot, may have been at that Blasters Berkeley square show. Lived in north Oakland for a while and saw a bunch of shows there. Like Tommy Castro they were a mainstay of bay area music for years.

    • xoot said, on November 4, 2020 at 4:28 pm

      Tommy C is still going strong, I think. I lived on Berkeley Way, one block north of Univ. I was out of town half the time on long haul freight trains, but we never got burglarized–imo, because the local fence lived right across the street. I really enjoyed watching transactions go down over there, except when junkies showed up to plead for deals at 2 in the morning. The tiny gospel church next to the Berk Sq was a helluva treat too, of a Sunday. Ah, youth! as J Conrad once said.

    • Winder said, on November 4, 2020 at 6:54 pm

      Leila and the snakes were a fun band in the mid 70’s. They played all over SF.

      • Winder said, on November 4, 2020 at 6:57 pm

        one more

  20. zumiee said, on November 4, 2020 at 5:16 pm

    49er wide receivers out with Covid. Kittle out. Thursday night looms.

    • alleykat69 said, on November 4, 2020 at 5:39 pm

      Zumie..Cue up “Wipeout” by The Ventures

    • Flavor said, on November 4, 2020 at 5:55 pm

      i don’t get why they don’t just move that game to Monday they would have a clearer picture of who has it and who doesn’t

  21. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    Aiyuk and Trent W#illiams are out as well. The 49ers might as well just forfeit the rest of the season and try to get Trey Lance.

    The 70s punk scene in SF was pretty fucking rad.

  22. snarkk said, on November 4, 2020 at 7:13 pm

    Biden is winning California by 4 million votes, with about 25% of the ballots still uncounted.
    I think it’s time Drumpf files suit to stop the counting, because of illegal piling on…

  23. unca_chuck said, on November 4, 2020 at 7:21 pm

  24. Carstie Clausen said, on November 4, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    Will Miracles never cease? There were miracles, I tell you. Between 2 and 3:30 a.m., EST, Wisconsin election officials revealed that there was a sudden eruption of wise Wisconsinners—125,000 of them who cast their ballots UNANIMOUSLY for the Harris-Biden ticket. ABC News and Nate Silver’s 5:38 initially posted the information.

    The same amazing acts of grace occurred a few hours later in Michigan, just after 6 a.m., when an even more majestic miracle occurred. More than 138,000 marvelous Michiganders and Michigeese majestically voted for the Democrat ticket, while Trump was skunked.

    The source I accessed also posted links to Twitter. However, in their corporate wisdom the Twitterators did not post that link, stating “This Tweet was from a suspended account”. So the suspense regarding the final tabulations surrounding Lake Michigan has dissolved into thin air. A little birdie told me that miracles can and do happen. Never any suspense in California as Snarkk expostulated, as “Dump Trump” was the mood of the day from L.A.to the Bay.

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