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No Bauer, No Flacco, No Political Talk

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 10, 2020

Ok, back to baseball. Sign Bauer? No chance. The only way I sign off on a big free agent signing, especially a pitcher, is if we are ALMOST right there. Like if he’s the last piece we need. Otherwise, signing big ticket free agents is a terrible idea and has more to do with hoping your fan base sticks around for some smoke and mirrors. Be in it for the long haul. The real fans are.

Can’t believe Flacco’s deep throw that was picked off to basically revive the Pats. Run some time off the clock? Nah, I’m gonna throw a deep prayer into double coverage for absolutely no reason and give the ball back to Cam. It’s like he had $$$ on the game.

We are back to the ban on political talk. Don’t waste your time it will be deleted immediately brandished with the familiar “this post is political in nature and has been removed by BIG FLAVOR”. And I put that shit in all caps so that you, your family and your closest friends don’t miss the fact that you have been publicly shamed at the most important place on the internet…….

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  1. Carstie Clausen said, on November 10, 2020 at 7:07 am

    MLBTR, with commentary by Mark Polishuk, features the Giants on today’s lineup. To keep up the suspense and not go into the long story—which we have discussed at length—Polishuk’s take is that SF will be neither the heap-big spenders or miserly tightwads in the offseason. Like many of us he stresses a steady hand for the bullpen, maybe a mid-range starter or two and a LH batter/utility infielder. He lays out the specifics on payroll and such.

  2. willedav said, on November 10, 2020 at 7:17 am

    Also on MLBTR is story on LaRussa and his DUI. A blogger named antsmith7 says, “Lo what an idiotic hire for such a good, young ballclub.”
    Exactly.

    • Macdog said, on November 10, 2020 at 8:10 am

      I don’t remember the reasons why, but I do seem to recall the Cards won the 2011 Series in spite of LaRussa and not because of his so-called genius. Now he’s 10 years older and taking over a promising young team, what a strange move by the ChiSox.

      • xoot said, on November 10, 2020 at 8:55 am

        LaRussa badly mishandled the pen, in more than one game, iirc.

  3. Winder said, on November 10, 2020 at 8:13 am

    I don’t like the idea of spending a huge amount on a long term pitching contract either. This year we should just plug the holes we can with young players and start to draft some pitching. Draft enough of em and surely some will pan out.

  4. sandog said, on November 10, 2020 at 8:35 am

    I don’t even like giving Gausman 19 mil for next year. Dumpster Dives/Reclamation projects only for 2021 as we get our financial house in order and hopefully advance some real prospects up the chain. Let’s look for next year’s version of Gausman.
    LaRussa signing IS bizarre. But it definitely gets my attention and will force me to follow the Chisox a little bit. They certainly have a lot of young talent.

    • Flavor said, on November 10, 2020 at 8:56 am

      Agreed fuck Gausman for 19 mil. He’s worth half that if that

  5. willedav said, on November 10, 2020 at 8:37 am

    Jenkins in Chron today had his takes on some of new rules that came up for 2020 season.
    On extra runner on 2b to start 10th, he liked it despite initial misgivings. Said it added different level of strategizing to plethora of 3 outcomes per AB games, and thought 17 inning games wasting of pens sucked for everyone.

    Liked extra playoff games but with caveats. 14 teams best teams in each league get opening round bye, first round 3 games (no more 1) and each other series 7.

    Big fan of no one allowed in video room during game. Quoted Krukow who said you learned more in dugout watching and noted how well Seager did for LA despite rep for spending lot of time previously watching vid.

    Likes 3 batter rule for relievers, who are now forced to learn how to get opp handed hitters out.

    Resigned to inevitability of DH to NL but quoted few NL mgrs that prefer game old style–Roberts, David Bell, Snitker and Brewers Counsell. Hopes for one more season 2021 back to way it’s been played.

    • xoot said, on November 10, 2020 at 9:04 am

      That’s a strange take from Jenkins on the extra-inning change. Compensate for the loss of strategy with the arrival of the DH in the NL by adding other gimmicks? What’s next? Outlaw the shift in extras? Or after the seventh inning?

  6. willedav said, on November 10, 2020 at 8:44 am

    Oh also on double headers: Fine with 2 games of 7. ONE admission and start games at 12 noon. funny that’s how I remember them at Stick on Sundays. Me n HS buddies hit a few of these in late 60s, catching bus at S’vale station at Evelyn and with packed lunches. Usually missed first couple innings of game 1 iirc but bus got you in and out really easily, and avoided cardiac hill.

  7. xoot said, on November 10, 2020 at 8:57 am

    This will be a strange FA season. It may be possible to get a stud at a (relatively speaking) bargain long-term deal. They’re not scouting around for the cheapest deal in town, just (risk you have with you always) the best.

  8. gianthead said, on November 10, 2020 at 9:09 am

    Id rather put the $18.9 Gausman potential deal to $150 mill Bauer deal…cant allow the Flodgers to get him…

    • xoot said, on November 10, 2020 at 9:11 am

      Smarj’s $19+ million comes off the books now. Give it to Gausman. A one-year deal for him at the QO rate would address the risk.

      • djloo27 said, on November 10, 2020 at 9:46 am

        Either NY team is very capable of topping that.
        It’s pocket change to them and they could use him.
        How about exploring Professor Tanaka for a year or two?

  9. djloo27 said, on November 10, 2020 at 9:43 am

    The Giants will never sign a player to a 9 figure deal again.
    You are reading this on the most important place on the internet so it must be taken seriously…

  10. willedav said, on November 10, 2020 at 10:05 am

    so many different things going on with Gausman. Possibility he takes QO and they work out 3 yr deal, say 3/30 ish. These days it seems signing anyone with QO comes with big red flag for giving up top pick in draft.

    Didn’t LaRussa in 2011 WS screw up calling in the wrong guy from pen? He called from dugout to warm up someone then brought in someone else when he went to mound didn’t he?

  11. Flavor said, on November 10, 2020 at 10:33 am

    Mac the Oaf suing the Giants over his concussion

    • snarkk said, on November 10, 2020 at 10:34 am

      I assume this precludes a comeback at Oracle…

    • xoot said, on November 10, 2020 at 10:38 am

      well, obviously his brain is damaged

  12. snarkk said, on November 10, 2020 at 10:33 am

    LaRussa getting a DUI at age 76? Nice way to start out a new manager gig.
    I never liked that guy. Smug, full of himself, and totally unbelievable that he never knew McGwire was ‘roiding.
    I’m not defending age discrimination, but he’s had his day…

  13. willedav said, on November 10, 2020 at 10:37 am

    As the MLBTR column Stix referred to said, Giants have $75 mil coming off books after 2021. Money ain’t the issue. If you want to dumpster dive, be prepared to live with results of Cahills of the world. who was that guy they signed, Springs? Once he got activated first time out he walked bases loaded then got cut. There were few other pen guys like him that were flat awful.

  14. Macdog said, on November 10, 2020 at 10:39 am

    I have no problem giving Gausman $19M for 1 year. It’s one season, this isn’t like Longo’s lugubrious contract clogging up 3B for multiple years.

  15. Macdog said, on November 10, 2020 at 11:04 am

    Here’s the play that resulted in Mac’s concussion:

    https://www.mlb.com/video/williamson-takes-a-hard-fall-c1973815283

    • willedav said, on November 10, 2020 at 11:41 am

      Thx Mac, brutal to watch as his head hits the wall.
      wonder what burden of proof for negligence is for him; he claims to this day he still feels after effects, very sad.

      • xoot said, on November 10, 2020 at 11:47 am

        There are various defenses protecting the Giants. I mean when those fans bought licenses to sit in the seats along that low wall, they agreed that if they took 110 mph LDs to their heads the Giants would not be liable. I suspect mlb/mlpa’s basic agreement has some terms that might apply. And that’s only the simplest defense. I never litigated an accident case in my life, so maybe I’m missing something. But most skiiers who slam into trees don’t have viable cases against the resorts. I think they’ve “assumed the risk.”

      • snarkk said, on November 10, 2020 at 12:40 pm

        I’d assume that now they’ve moved the Pen mounds beyond the OF fences, that’s a relevant fact that shows they could have done so before. There were plenty of instances where players tripped over the mounds, etc. before Mac hit the wall, so there was clearly notice of the potential danger, with no action. They’ll settle it quietly. I hope his condition ultimately rights itself. A bad concussion is definitely a serious thing…

      • xoot said, on November 10, 2020 at 12:56 pm

        I do recall a rule related to the inadmissibility of evidence of subsequent remedial measures to prove wrongdoing. But again, seeing tv ads asking me to call 1-800-8million is the closest I get to PI cases. I’d need to see the complaint (and the lawyer on it) to get a better sense of what’s going on, much less what’s likely to happen.

    • xoot said, on November 10, 2020 at 11:56 am

      So Bryce Harper watched that train wreck up close and then nearly did the same thing on the RF side a couple years later?

      • unca_chuck said, on November 10, 2020 at 12:30 pm

        Just because you ‘assume the risk’ doesn’t mean you can’t get a settlement. The girl’s family who got hit by a stray puck about 40 rows behind the net at a hockey game won a bunch of money. I don’t remember if the family sued and won or if the team simply paid them off.

      • xoot said, on November 10, 2020 at 1:04 pm

        I didn’t say the defenses always work. I hear they don’t sometimes. But a 13 year old hockey fan in the stands getting killed by a puck is not similarly situated to a professional baseball player whose job includes avoiding the bullpen mounds he navigates every day he’s in the park. Hell, for all I know, the Oaf’s claims are barred by the workers’ compensation laws, which kick in when someone’s hurt on the job. We need more info about the current lawsuit to evaluate it.

  16. unca_chuck said, on November 10, 2020 at 11:40 am

    Did Noah Lowry ever sue the team for his fucked up diagnosis and botched surgery?

    My thought is offer Gausman $20 mill and see if he stays. Otherwise, bye bye. It ain’t breaking the bank, and sweating through a season of Tyler Anderson and Logan Webb walking a guy every other batter will get old really fucking fast.

    “100 pitches, and Webb is coming out for the 4th inning.” Blehh.

    • Bozo said, on November 10, 2020 at 2:11 pm

      Lowery’s agent made some noise about a misdiagnosis early on, but I don’t recall Lowery saying much. The Giants probably paid him off would be my guess. Does he still have that sporting good store up in Santa Rosa? Someone should track him down and get the scoop.

  17. zumiee said, on November 10, 2020 at 1:11 pm

    That was a good call by Loo. Loo insisted that Mac would eventually sue.

  18. alleykat69 said, on November 10, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    Yeah good call by Loo. The oaf should end up with a nice payday when all the BP dust settles..
    So now is there only 2 teams left that have their BP in play? Oakland Coliseum and Tropicana Field?
    2 Bottomfeeder payrolls that certainly don’t need a lawsuit I would assume if a player takes a header and is hurt to where he can’t continue his career..

    • unca_chuck said, on November 10, 2020 at 4:07 pm

      In the A’s case, the bullpen mounds are 150′ away from fair territory. Like the Stick they rarely if ever come into play.

      • alleykat69 said, on November 10, 2020 at 4:44 pm

        Just being on the field at all still can come into play.Baseball needs to get rid of the last remaining 2 for safety..

  19. Flavor said, on November 10, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    Loo also predicted that Oaf was about to get injured. I think the day it happened or maybe the day before he said Oaf was about to go down.

  20. alleykat69 said, on November 10, 2020 at 4:53 pm

    Boston Celtics legend and HOF Tommy Heinsohn has died at the age of 86..

  21. Carstie Clausen said, on November 10, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    The Z & H prowlers got their LHB third baseman, Jason Vosler, a career minor leaguer who started out in the Cubs system and then went to the SD system in a trade. In his last 3 Mi. L. seasons he has averaged over 20 HR’s per season. Check it out on MLBTR’s for the full take.

  22. willedav said, on November 10, 2020 at 6:06 pm

    Check out the story on LaRussa conversation with arresting officer
    At one point he says,”what makes you think I don’t have control of my facilities?” Also flashed WS ring playing do you know who I am card.

  23. mrsprtdude said, on November 10, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    Larussa is such a popous windbag!

    • willedav said, on November 10, 2020 at 6:29 pm

      Didn’t want to take breathalyzer test because, “I don’t trust it.”

      • alleykat69 said, on November 10, 2020 at 7:23 pm

        Yeah what a joke!
        The jokes still on Tony as they drew 2 vials of blood maybe while he was passed out drunk..

  24. unca_chuck said, on November 10, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    Hah! The ‘on this date’ is the best thing about this card.


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