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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 16, 2020

David Dahl is off the board, Texas signed him. There are still a handful of useful FA bats out there but Z might want to git goin’.

Rumor circulating, mostly because of Rosenthal, saying the Giants are a good fit for Bauer Outage. I’m not getting that one at all. Since when is it a good fit for a middling team to throw 200+ million at a starting pitcher? That one made no sense to me.

There’s an article at ESPN about what it would take to get Snell but it’s behind their paywall. The price for Snell will be HIGH

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  1. willedav said, on December 16, 2020 at 7:02 am

    Shea discussed pros/cons of this couple days ago. According to nbcbayarea site (Pavs) Bauer himself said Giants and fanbase would be good fit; his agent (Ms Luba) is a young lady from around here I think.
    He’s said all along he only wants 1 yr deal and of course wants to go to contender. Adding him to what Giants have sure changes equation for “contending”, but sounds like longshot.

    • Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 7:11 am

      i missed the part about him only wanting a 1 year deal. Why would he only want a 1 year deal?

    • chipower9 said, on December 16, 2020 at 7:35 am

      Not sure the logic of “why’ he wants a one-year deal, Flav, but I have read the same thing multiple times. Fuck it…not my money. One year deal and add a bat, and this team could hypothetically make a little noise in the division. Would certainly make things interesting.

  2. Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 7:18 am

    SO I just found those quotes, Bauer is indeed seeking a 1 year deal. Says that’s how he wants to roll his entire career, gives him the best options, most control etc. But he also said, multiple times in different interviews, that he only wants to play for a contender each year. That categorically dismisses the Giants chances of signing him.

    • chipower9 said, on December 16, 2020 at 7:36 am

      Not sure about the categorically dismisses the chances, as he himself said he sees him and the Giants as a good fit.Regardless, I’m not holding my breath on this one.

    • willedav said, on December 16, 2020 at 8:08 am

      Not saying you are wrong in that last sentence, but…Braves won 35 games 2020 and came as close as anyone to taking down eventual champ Dodgers. Cubs won division with 34.
      Giants won 29…Bauer made 11 starts and had 1.73 ERA. What could have happened if he’d been making those 11 starts as a Giant, as well as they hit?
      If he’s making 25 starts or so in a season as opposed to some dumpster dive guy Z/H bring in, what then? Not to mention legit ace for playoffs should you get there.

  3. Macdog said, on December 16, 2020 at 7:44 am

    Looks like Suarez is South Korea bound:

    • djloo27 said, on December 16, 2020 at 8:05 am

      I would take a Keurig and a Play Station for him, but that might be steep…

  4. sandog said, on December 16, 2020 at 8:35 am

    I think Bauer is a bit of a contrarian (I like that about him) and has said in the past he would only sign one year deals. I think it would be an awesomely ballsy move (and also foolish), but I would love to see him go down this road and pull it off. He could make an incredible amount of dough in 5 years if he stayed healthy and continued to pitch well. But, I have more recently hear him say he will consider all forms of deals, so I would be highly surprised if he follows through on this one year deal philosophy—but I will absolutely love him if he does.
    As for the Giants, this year is not the year to spend big $ or trade the few prospects we have, so neither Bauer or Snell make any sense to me.
    This year is about dumpster diving, saying goodbye to some long time key players, playing .450 ball, figuring out if any of our younger guys are any good, and then starting the renaissance of this team in 2022.

    • willedav said, on December 16, 2020 at 8:59 am

      yeah I’m sure that’s how they will roll, with idea 2022 and beyond team looks way different.
      and even though they did hit well in 2020, I don’t see that holding up so well long haul 2021

      • James said, on December 16, 2020 at 9:25 am

        I’m a little more optimistic about the offense, if the injuries don’t hit too hard. Of course, the track records and ages of the players don’t bode well.

    • chipower9 said, on December 16, 2020 at 2:06 pm

      If Bauer was willing to do a one-year deal, say for $25 or so, why not. Against the 40 man roster, Giants are at 99 mil. Bauer could easily fit for one year, and then after next year Belt, Craw, Cueto, and Posey coming off the books.

  5. Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 9:13 am

    The Giants COULD contend with Bauer. It sounds like he wants more of an assurance about contention than that. SF would certainly be a great place for him to pitch but if.ots only a year deal why not just go to LA? He went to UCLA he probably likes it down there

  6. James said, on December 16, 2020 at 9:40 am

    Not holding out much hope, but if there are assurances that Zaidi’s hands won’t be tied 2022- by any Bauer deal, why wouldn’t you try to sign him for 2021, or even a 2-year deal? To contend, the pitching has to get a lot better sooner or later, and over the next few years, seems like that’ll only happen through some financially risky signings.

    • Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 9:50 am

      yes. Because our farm system is unable to deliver top quality pitching anymore, risky signings will have to occur. And if Bauer is truly serious about this 1 year deal stuff then it’s a no brainer. I just don’t think he sees SF as the best landing spot. This guy will have his pick of literally any team. Why choose SF?

      • James said, on December 16, 2020 at 10:26 am

        He won’t unless his primary motivation is to try to be the hero that moves a team from the margins into real contention.

  7. willedav said, on December 16, 2020 at 10:05 am

    Charlie Scott turned 72 yesterday. Dean Smith gave him scholarship at UNC, first black athlete in school’s history. Helluva player, didn’t disappoint. Saw him as a Celt play vs. Warriors, after Suns (first NBA team after couple years in ABA) had traded him to Boston.

    • djloo27 said, on December 16, 2020 at 11:35 am

      He was massively talented but I remember him as a bit of a chucker.
      I could be wrong…

      • willedav said, on December 16, 2020 at 12:25 pm

        oh yeah volume shooter as they say, and not much of defender either. NYC HS player, right?

  8. dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 16, 2020 at 10:27 am

    Bauer slotted with Cueto, Gausman, Beede, Webb or whoever fills out the back end could be a really good rotation but that’s a lot of could. I’m interested to see how Webb, who regressed across the board, is handled this year. Do they take the training wheels off?

  9. Bozo said, on December 16, 2020 at 10:45 am

    I wonder if Bauer would sign a 3 year deal with a mutual option each year?

  10. xoot said, on December 16, 2020 at 10:53 am

    Yeah, I was thinking about mutual options for Bauer. It’s a strange buyer’s-market winter. Who knows how the 2021 season will go. Three years, the third a mutual option, with club buyout on the Giants’ side of that.

  11. djloo27 said, on December 16, 2020 at 11:33 am

    It seems pretty definite that the season ain’t gonna be 162 games, but still no decision on the DH for the NL?
    Don’t NL teams have a right to know, so they can plan accordingly?
    WTF is the hold up?

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on December 16, 2020 at 11:46 am

      Probably right re the number of games-what’s the floor though? 154 would be kind of cool but probably way less than what’s being kicked around.
      Per Zaidi the Giants have been told not to plan for the DH in ’21 and are operating under that assumption https://tinyurl.com/yaw794py

  12. willedav said, on December 16, 2020 at 12:30 pm

    Today mulit reed player Joe Farrell would have been 83. First heard of him with CTI stuff, hit Follow Your Heart with J McLaughlin and LP after that the superb Outback with C Corea Buster Williams and Elvin Jones plus Airto . He had earlier been part of Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Village Vanguard big band, famed in NYC.

    Also part of first Return to Forever with Corea Lenny white and Stanley Clarke.
    Did great CD with George Benson, titled simply Benson and Farrell with cover made to look like Benson/Hedges cig pack. On that one is tremendous version of Old Devil Moon, where Benson explodes on out chorus after Farrell solos on flute.

  13. Carstie Clausen said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    Been pretty busy since returning to the nest. Just minutes ago, Flav, I noticed you asked me for an update on checking out the old shack. Well, it’s toast. Since the last time my family members had been there during the Autumn, yet another ransacker had strewed things all around the floor…mostly books and other paper items. From the mess in the living-room I extracted an 1889 World Atlas. Last night I checked google listings and discovered that it should be worth at least a C-note. Ransackers are not much into paper collectibles, I guess.

    Livingroom window had been smashed. Table upended and a leg broken-off. Bedroom a shambles. Entryway yet another mess. Retrieved a few more books and a Texas-style 11-gallon hat. Got a bunch of carvings from the back of the old van. Two large trees down across the driveway. Gopher mounds all over the place. More trees down. My friend Markko was able to start up the car, but brakes are frozen as it had been parked in a low spot in the yard—not my doing.

    Kitchen a total wreck with door to the porch hanging on one hinge. Looks like it will be necessary to tear down the kitchen as well as the 1943 additions. Maybe or maybe not the 1915 original structure can be retrieved, but with black-mold everywhere, that’s a faint hope. Markko has offered to tow in his insulated ice-fishing shelter. Another friend recommended I buy a smaller cargo container for maybe $1,500 or so. I do have too much stuff, as having been an antiques dealer for a dozen years.

    As winters can be pretty long up there, my plan is to travel back that away sometime between mid-March and early-mid April—depending on the state of the winter. Lottsa cleanup work to do with chainsaws, spade and wheelbarrows.

    Bit of good news, hinging on his own bad fortune. We made a long side’ trip to a small town north of Fargo-Moorhead to the home of another friend, Michael. He’d had three strokes a couple years back and he was only 48 at the time. Messed up a bunch, but gets quite a bit of help. So he offered to sell me his ’94 Chevy Lumina for a reasonable cash price. I added a very recent sculptural carving to the blend. Have the title now, and we started it up.

    Only hitch is my home area DMV office has been shut down since March and thus I was unable to take the written drivers exam (after my license had lapsed more than a year ago) and will need to get on a list at a DMV down here. Likely my “appointment” will be no earlier than February. Ecch. BUT, Michael happens to be a mechanic who did all his own work. If one is gonna buy a used car, the best possible source would be from a mechanic who happens to also be a friend. He’d bought it from a widow-lady who’d put less than 100K miles on it. So for an older machine it should be reliable. Tires look good, with two being quite new.

    Better make that call now to the nearest DMV office to find out when I become mobile again. Oh well, under heavy state lockdown till who knows when, any explorations around the Twin Cities would be pretty meaningless anyway. A relatively warm 29 degrees here and this part of Manysnowta is not looking for a white Christmas.

    Thanks for caring, Craig.

    • sandog said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:26 pm

      Thanks for that update Stix. Sorry to hear about the looting and disrepair. Glad you were able to get a couple of things and you have some friends up there helping you out. Car sounds solid.

    • chipower9 said, on December 16, 2020 at 2:14 pm

      Thanks for the update, Stix. As SanD said, sorry to hear about the ransacking. Fucking people…

      Also glad you were able to recover a few things, and found what sounds like a decent set of wheels.

      As always, good luck my friend.

  14. Macdog said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    • sandog said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:26 pm

      Totally down with this move.

  15. alleykat69 said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    The only thing the Giants might have a sliver of hope with signing Bauer is his agent Rachael Luba grew up in Northern California and was a Giants fan. and that Bauer is intrigued with the Giants fan base, calling them one of the top 5 in baseball.
    I still think it’s all normal as usual with the Giants , the supposed interest, to juice up the fans blah blah blah,and end the end it’s lip service as always as the player/players ends up somewhere else, leaving the flap to naw on another dried out bone 🦴
    The real frontrunners will be the Angels,Padres,Mets and god forbid the Dodgers like they need more starting pitchers..

  16. Macdog said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:31 pm

    And now Rosenthal confirms it. Jersey guy from my area coming to S.F.!

    • Macdog said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:31 pm

      Free-agent right-hander Anthony DeSclafani in agreement with Giants on one-year contract in $6M range, source tells The Athletic.

    • willedav said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:48 pm

      saw Monmouth played first game of season last night, L to Hofstra who had already played 4. Scored 88 first time out too not bad. Next game Friday with St. Peters, league game?

      • Macdog said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:56 pm

        Yeah, caught most of the 2nd half. Monmouth guard Papas hit 9 3’s, combined with other guard for 56 points, but two Pride guard had 57 points. Big diff was free throws: Hofstra 29-32, Hawks 9-13.

  17. Macdog said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    So the Giants sign a Reds pitcher after all.

  18. djloo27 said, on December 16, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    Definite upgrade…

  19. alleykat69 said, on December 16, 2020 at 2:05 pm

    Bar must be set pretty low Loo, I don’t see much in his stats to be nothing but a journey man inning filler who gets hit hard overall..

    • djloo27 said, on December 16, 2020 at 2:22 pm

      Yeah, it’s low, but if you toss 2020, he had 4 pretty solid years for the rotten Reds in their joke of a ballpark…

    • sandog said, on December 16, 2020 at 2:23 pm

      With our staff………the bar IS pretty damn low. AD could be our #3 starter.

  20. alleykat69 said, on December 16, 2020 at 2:26 pm

    Wonder if a midget could clear the bar that the Giants have it set at?

  21. Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 2:37 pm

    Stix, thanks for the update. I can only imagine all the different emotions echoing through you as you went from room to room. It’s just a travesty that this happened to you.
    I am fine with the DeScladifari whatever his name is pick up. He’s showed some promise and i think he’s still young. Getting out of Cinn has to help him. I’m gonna go look at his stats now

  22. James said, on December 16, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    The pre 2020 K/BB ratio got him the contract. The HR per 9 also not too bad for Cincy.

  23. djloo27 said, on December 16, 2020 at 2:57 pm

    I think Bauer’s FOS with the one year thing…

  24. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on December 16, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    Stix, a bit sad to hear your tale of your homestead. Can’t imagine “going home” to find things like that. Geez, I was almost waiting to hear you say they’d spray painted “Heisenberg” on the living room walls….

  25. djloo27 said, on December 16, 2020 at 4:37 pm

    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but does the government or law enforcement agency have any obligation to safeguard the property of someone taken into custody (and not even convicted or let out on bail)?
    I guess the answer’s obvious…

    • Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 5:18 pm

      this post was political in nature and removed by BIG FLAVOR

  26. Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 4:42 pm

    this is absolutely fucking hilarious, at least to a Ca boy like myself who doesn’t know anything about snow.

  27. Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 4:49 pm

    is this Bauer’s agent? Is he…..fucking her?

  28. Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    • xoot said, on December 16, 2020 at 6:02 pm

      I’d hope so, given DeS’s injury history.

  29. Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 6:04 pm

    uh…..no X 10. Fuck this Z, this is a total fucking cop out. He better just be blowing smoke to the media with this bullshit quote

    • Carstie Clausen said, on December 16, 2020 at 6:46 pm

      Yeah. We can only hope this was a smokescreen and not settling for a so-so rotation at best. No doubt, though, that Buster will set the tone as a logical candidate for a future managerial career. He not only handles pitchers very well, but also serves as the de-facto team captain. Had he not sat it out we probably would have accumulated 3-4 more victories, just via his pitch-calling and smoothing the hurlers. Giants will need that influence with our, to date, scrambled-eggs staff.

      Also some possibility that the year off will help Buster heal his body from the typical wear and tear on the guy who wears the tools of ignorance…so they say. Posey is plenty bright and enjoys a surfeit of baseball savvy. Who knows? That long break(and with the new twins in the household) perhaps he will not only arrest his general offensive decline, but may achieve somewhat of a comeback. The power element may be gone with the wind, though, for that Georgia boy.

    • willedav said, on December 17, 2020 at 6:40 am

      you are forgetting how bad the offense was from Tromp Heinemann and Bart. Posey should be able to be significant upgrade while Bart can hopefully rebuild confidence at Sac, and get closer to point where he can handle MLB pitching…unlike last season when it overwhelmed him.
      Most sites still very high on Mr. Bart thought that BB/K rate (and inability to turn the power into an actual HR) certainly put some questions to Szymborski and was mentioned by others.

  30. Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 6:16 pm

    this is so rad. Big BIG BY fan here

  31. Carstie Clausen said, on December 16, 2020 at 6:35 pm

    Thanks for the kind words of support, guys. The government simply does not care about their prisoners, or former prisoners for that matter. They still want nearly 20K outta my hide for damage to the chopper. Had that thing been clearly identifiable as law enforcement none of this business would have happened. You cannot possibly do a stealth mission with a helicopter, no matter. So basically, somebody fucked up big-time—a bunch more than me. What if they had swooped in on some real gun-nut and paranoid besides and the guy letting loose with a multi-round capacity semi-automatic?

    That all said, I just looked up DeScalfini’s stats and from all indications he should make a passable #4,with Cueto a questionable #3 and Gausman a not bad #2, with Webb an improving #5, but where’s the ACE? Will the Z&H combo get the owners to part with enough shekels so that SF is not embarrassed facing tough opponents in the #1 slot?

    Career stats on De-S are a 4.29 ERA, with a 1.294 WHIP. Hits/9 IP at 9.1, walks 2.5 and HRs 1.3. The k/9 is a middling-fair 8.0. Whatever they mean—never did the research—–FIP is 4.25 and ERA+ at 99.

    Zaidi probably expects that having been liberated from facing the fences in the Great American Bandbox, that the 1.1 HR/9 at Miami might be a more valid indicator for Oracle. It would also tend to lower the BB/9 somewhat as the fear-factor should not be heavily in play in NLW parks. At 6M/ year he will come cheaper than the monster salary Smyly would have received had he not been de-listed. At that rate, some $12-13M might be available for a potential ace as 2 SPs for the price of one. Hope that works out.

    • Flavor said, on December 16, 2020 at 6:58 pm

      i’m 100% behind you on the govt fucking up that day. Do I think you could have handled the whole thing differently? Probably but I wasn’t there so I don’t know what you were thinking right in that moment. You tell them to take that fucking 20 grand and shove it right up their ass.
      Can you sell the land? Or are you going to try to move back there at some point after cleaning up and rebuilding as best you can?

  32. Carstie Clausen said, on December 16, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    First spring on the place (’74) I planted 500 Norway pine trees (4 year old saplings). So they hit 50 this year and most of them survived. That was the first crop of anything on the homestead. So if I do a lot of work and go to a local sawmill, most of the lumber needs should be taken care of. Also over the years gathered a huge number of flat rocks from farmers’ rock piles. Some not so flat, but with enough surfaces to go construction grade. Also accumulated a mass of beer bottles over nearly 50 years. Plan on a dual glazed stickball of those bottles. Have a bunch of old windows, but would need new framing.

    So the most probable course would be a new structure, partially earth-sheltered and built into a southeast-facing hillside. But as for the immediate future, there’s a ton of work just cleaning up.

    • Flavor said, on December 17, 2020 at 7:04 am

      how much of that can you do yourself? Do you have help?

  33. Flavor said, on December 17, 2020 at 7:56 am

    can’t seem to post a new thread or access the backend of the blog. Chuck are you having this prob with wordpress? I’ve emailed them but they are terrible at getting back


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