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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on February 4, 2021

The question I have, who will have greater historical significance in the pantheon of Giants lore, Zack Littell or Greg Litton? I’m going with the former.

Of course, Krueg’s disagrees. But this is his type of guy, someone nobody’s ever heard of who’s had the slightest bit of success at some point in his pro career.

Larry Krueger@sportslarryknbr·Breaking! #sfgiants are signing RHP Zack Littell @z_littell . Great get for Farhan Zaidi. Littell was a quality arm for #Twins on 2019.10961

Flavor@1flapdown77·If this gets you excited what would an actual exciting signing do to you?

Larry Krueger@sportslarryknbrReplying to @1flapdown77 and @z_littellLittell throws 96 mph w/a 90 hard cutter and had a 2,68 ERA in 29 games in 2019. Farhan makes a lot of moves on the margins. Look for this guy to emerge as a big factor this season

Apparently, Z’s got a fondness for guys like this, too.

I don’t have a problem with the Littell signing I’m just not gonna jizz in my pants like Krueg’s over it.

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  1. willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:50 am

    End cap on Brebbia aisle, next to impulse buy chocolate strategically placed near checkout.

    • Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:55 am

      you can walk down the Brebbia aisle but you can never leave.

  2. Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:04 am

    he and I stand together on this.

    • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:09 am

      Didn’t he own Run Happy?

  3. willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:44 am

    Saw something from SNY about Bauer. going back a week supposedly Mets did make him an offer, though not in range of biggest AAV ever, above the $35 mil per that Gerrit Cole got. which is what Bauer is supposed to be seeking. 2 weeks til ST–other than Dodgers (yuck) or Mets, doesn’t appear anyone else is even in market.
    So what is next move by Ms. Luba and Bauer? Would he wait it out til some team came calling with an offer he couldn’t refuse?

  4. willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:50 am

    Guy with bread he’s gonna lose in briefcase reminds me of Raider fan at work we used to make fun of in 90s. Every July he told rest of us, “I’m going to Reno, this is our year.” um, no man, it’s not. I offered to take his money and hide it for him til season is over instead of flushing down toilet.

    This was also during time Marty Schott absolutely owned Silver/Black. He beat them about dozen times in row with Chiefs. Heard he has stabilized somewhat in hospice care. Much respect for him as coach.

  5. mrsprtdude said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:59 am

    Hope Larry K is right. But I can’t get too excited abut a player not even listed in Shandler’s baseball forecast

  6. Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 8:07 am

    That guy is a baller to go with 3.5 mil, same # as the point spread. diggity you wanna be a baller like that guy and just bet $35?

    • Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:04 am

      actually to be exact we should bet $34.60

      • sandog said, on February 4, 2021 at 12:42 pm

        BRING IT ON

      • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:58 pm

        That’s what Melatonin paid when he upset Effinex in the 2016 Big ‘Cap.
        I knew it sounded familiar…

  7. willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:10 am

    looking at roto fantasy column of top 150 SPs on fangraphs, #28 is …Zach Wheeler, who signed $118 mil/5 yr deal with Phils a year ago. Drafted #6 overall by Giants, traded for Beltran and cash late July 2011.
    Thoughts?

    • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:18 am

      Neukom’s folly.

    • Bozo said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:19 am

      I still think the Beltran trade was worth the shot, just didn’t know we needed to bang on trash cans for him to help us.
      Since we traded Zach back in 2011, he has only pitched in 137 ML games and has a total of 48 wins. I’m good not having those 48 wins over 9 years.

      • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:24 am

        Wheeler could’ve bought more than a high priced short term rental, I bet.

      • Bozo said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:29 am

        Maybe, or left as a FA. Either way, I doubt Zaidi would have resigned him so he still wouldn’t be a Giant this year.

      • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:39 am

        He was a minor league phenom in 2011. Lots of possibilities. Adding Beltran helped get Nuke fired. But it had to be Sabeans idea. Remember when sir Sidney ponson was going to carry the Giants to back to back WSs? I guess these things happen.

      • willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:41 am

        mm yeah I think both of you are right. Beltran hit well eventually just not well enough to get Giants over hump, then left town. Wheeler has had injury filled up and down career; I just hadn’t thought of him much til I saw the f/g column. Lot to live up to in Philly with that deal.

  8. willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:15 am

    I do remember Twin not being Beltran fan. He got off to slow start after Giants got him, before heating up eventually. Lot of back and forth over whether giants wanted him back or not and he um ultimately made some history for himself elsewhere.

    • willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:24 am

      2011 was messed up year on lot of fronts. Even years worked out better than 2011, and then 2013 when they only won 76 before 3 straight of 88 85 84.

      • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:31 am

        Losing Buster in May was key. Considering how he came back in 2012, it’s tempting to imagine how great he could’ve been if that asswipe had simply slid around him when he struggled to handle the throw from Nate that skipped oddly on the damp grass.

  9. xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:16 am

    When I checked fangraphs last night, I saw littell’s fb listed at 94 (or below in some years). Maybe he hits 96 on a good day on occasion?

    • Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:59 am

      Krueger is FOS most of the time.

  10. alleykat69 said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:04 am

    Maybe the Giants are hoping Zack Littell has a similar career as Royals/Cardinal
    Mark Littell had who was a pretty good reliever for both teams in the 70’s-80’s saving 56 games till his elbow blew out at age 29.I do remember one of his lowlights though, while pitching for the Royals giving up the walkoff HR to Chris Chambliss in 1979 sending the Yankees to the W/S!
    Any of you guys remember him besides me? Loo,Willied others?

    • Winder said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:44 am

      I can’t even remember half of the 79 Giants.

    • willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:44 am

      barely Kat. He preceded Quiz in KC then at end of career Sutter took over in STL. Odd that he played for Herzog in both places. did get WS ring with Cards in 82. Just never cared for either of the two teams he was on at the time.

      • willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 11:57 am

        other than ET McGee who wound up here after awhile in 90s.

      • Bozo said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:26 pm

        ET goes home.

    • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 12:39 pm

      It was 1976. I wrote the other day that the just deceased Grant Jackson had given up the game tying homer to Brett before Chambliss won it…

      • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:43 pm

        Do you ignore my stellar insights?

  11. alleykat69 said, on February 4, 2021 at 12:04 pm

    ET McGee that’s Gold!
    A perfect 👌 facial recognition Willied!

  12. sandog said, on February 4, 2021 at 12:44 pm

    I remember Mark Littell and thought of him when I heard of this awesome move by Z-Man

    • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:42 pm

      He’s the Ralph Branca of Kansas City…

  13. sandog said, on February 4, 2021 at 12:47 pm

    Marty Schottenheimer in hospice bums me out. Helluva coach, who was great for the Chiefs using an array of castoff Niner QB’s.
    Talked to him once at the McDonald’s at the airport down here while coaching the Chargers. He was reading Golf Digest eating a McDonald’s breakie plate, which I thought was all kinds of awesome.

    • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:27 pm

      Went 13-3 with Sonny Bono at QB…

      • Macdog said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:58 pm

        Was that the season they lost to the Colts on a bitter-cold day in KC?

      • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 2:02 pm

        I don’t know about KC, but there was about 3 feet of snow on the ground in Brooklyn that day.
        Lin Fuckin’ Elliot could probably answer your question, Mac…

      • Macdog said, on February 4, 2021 at 2:16 pm

        That was early ’96 when we got hit with the big snowstorm, so yes, that was the Colts game.

  14. blade3colorado said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:30 pm

    We signed Tommy La Stella. Question – Why doesn’t this guy have many at bats (each season)? I don’t know too much about him, other then OBP is good. Is he injury prone? Even in All Star year (2019) – only 80 games???

    • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:48 pm

      • unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:59 pm

        Dave Grohl on the drums. Really like some of their stuff. Really dislike some of their stuff.

      • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 2:04 pm

        The deer is an excellent driver…

      • unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 2:05 pm

        I mean, shit, John Paul Jones on bass? Crazy. His piano outro is fantastic.

    • Macdog said, on February 4, 2021 at 2:13 pm

      Broken tibia in early July 2019.

  15. Bozo said, on February 4, 2021 at 1:47 pm

    Bah bye Basabe,

  16. unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 2:01 pm

    Beltran got hurt right after we signed him, and didn’t hit for a month after that. By the time he caught fire, we were toast.

  17. Macdog said, on February 4, 2021 at 2:40 pm

  18. James said, on February 4, 2021 at 3:22 pm

    The fastball numbers on FG are averages. So, Syndergaard who often gets to 98-100 mph is listed at 97, Clevenger at 95 etc. Krueger was apparently citing a scout, who said Littell throws “up to 96.” So, based on the last 2 years, he should throw a fair % of his fastballs at 95-96. Presumably the cutter is what might set him apart. At least he’s not in his 30s.

    • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 4:24 pm

      Looks like fifty percent of his mlb pitches have been four seamers at an average of 94. Maybe I’m not digging deeply enough. But four seamers at 94 dont encourage me. I don’t like beede, either, even with a functioning elbow.

      • James said, on February 4, 2021 at 4:57 pm

        97 is definitely a more invigorating number.

      • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:14 pm

      • alleykat69 said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:21 pm

        They leave the yard fast!
        5 HR’s in 31 AB’s hope he has a secondary pitch like a decent slider..

  19. Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 4:39 pm

    Bauer to the Mets. That’s a good spot for him.

    • alleykat69 said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:37 pm

      Fake news on Bauer by Nightengale, no signing yet!
      Still go to the Mets please over the Dodgers!

      • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:41 pm

        Ms Luba Lhao on tweeter.

  20. mrsprtdude said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:28 pm

    Apparently ut of the loop. How i don’t know. What is the matter with belt that he might not be ready for opening day?

    • Macdog said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:47 pm

      Heel surgery this offseason.

    • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:48 pm

      Heel? Achilles? Foot owie? I forget.

  21. Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:32 pm

    oh baby HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!

    wait…..who?

    • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:54 pm

      2% of his abs (or pas for that matter) = HRs. .2 career WAR. That’s the lh of bat they’ve been looking for.

      • Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 5:59 pm

        Grave Duggar is gonna eat this guy’s lunch and then puke it down his throat.

      • willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:10 pm

        Nah they’ll be Sacto buddies.

      • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:24 pm

        Apparently wade in the shallows has one option year remaining. Lease a good car kid. You’ll be driving a lot this year.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:31 pm

      If your ticket is pure irony you will certainly love that blockbuster trade with a 5.17 ERA starter-longan with a hyper-exciting 17.8 K vs 10.1BB record for a 26 Y.O. who hit for decent average in the LOWER minors while causing onlookers to faint from eyes googling-out every time he manages every month or two to hit a H.R.

  22. alleykat69 said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    Nothing like a career.211 hitter to get the juices flowing..

    • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:19 pm

      I know a HOFer who hit .211 in 1973…

      • unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:29 pm

        Mays?

      • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:36 pm

      • unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:57 pm

        Saw him at Shea in 1973. My one and only venture to that park.

      • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:13 pm

        What were you doing here?
        Maybe we bumped into each other!

  23. willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:17 pm

    Oubre rolling tonight. Dallas looks like they studied at Nets school of defense.

    • Macdog said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:39 pm

      Ha, no D in Big D.

  24. djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:18 pm

    With a little luck he might make me forget Steve Hosey…

    • James said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:39 pm

      Steve Hosey! Kudos . . .

  25. unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:29 pm

    Oubre didn’t lose the game on Tuesday. We had no centers when Looney went down, and gave up 12 O-rebs in the 2nd half.

    That being said, this may be Oubre’s only 30point game oif the year, but he’s an aboive average defender and can score in the paint. I wish he and Wiggins would attack the rim more often. Same with Draymond. He so rarely takes the layup .

    • unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:38 pm

      Course, Oubre makes a stooooooopid play with 0.6 seconds left.

  26. unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:33 pm

    Looks like I picked the right time to turn on the game.

  27. djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:39 pm

    Good for Bummie! Fuck AZ!

    Madison Bumgarner LHP
    5 years/$85M (2020-24)

    Signed by Arizona as a free agent 12/17/19
    20:$6M, 21:$19M, 22:$23M, 23:$23M, 24:$14M
    in 2021-23, $5M annually is deferred without interest, to be paid in $5M installments each Nov. 1, 2025-27

  28. Bozo said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:40 pm

    I don’t know why, but I have this feeling that Wade’s biggest contribution will be to make room on the 40 man for someone else.

    • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:54 pm

      Wade will probably drown…

      • Bozo said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:21 pm

        That cracked me up.

      • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:23 pm

        That’s as highbrow as I ever get, Bozo…

  29. willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:56 pm

    127-103 with over 6 minutes left.

  30. djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:56 pm

    The #SFGIANTS suck…

    • Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:06 pm

      we do. We aren’t doing shit with this Brebbia aisle bullshit. It’s hilarious. Whatever, this was a burn year anyway. If they try to pull this shit NEXT off season tho, I will be pissed. And it’s time for one or more of these prospects to actually fucking do something……

  31. unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 6:56 pm

    Hoping they can rest Dray and Steph and close this out.

  32. Flavor said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:08 pm

    Chuck what are you talking about? Oubre singlehandedly fueled the Celtics run. 1/2 free throws, blew the dunk, missed layup and multiple missed open 3s. How can you ignore all that and defend him in that game??????????

    • unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:11 pm

      He had a bad game. They gave up 25 second chance points in the 2nd half.

  33. unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:09 pm

    Luciano, Helios, and Bishop ain’t gonna be here till September. Shit they don’t even want Bart up here.

    This is the last hurrah of the bore core. This is what we thought it is.

    • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:12 pm

      Heliot is invited to ST, for a change

      • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:17 pm

        It’s 2021.
        Sensitivity Training?

      • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:34 pm

        For the sun god? No. There’s more day to dawn.

  34. djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:22 pm

    Is it common knowledge here that Yasiel is also one of Rachel baby’s clients?

    • willedav said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:33 pm

      So package him to Nueva York with Bauer for league min. Coupled entry #1 and #1a hole.

    • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:35 pm

      Yes. I’ve never seen her tweet about him.

    • Macdog said, on February 4, 2021 at 8:09 pm

      Macdog said, on December 30, 2020 at 10:56 am
      She’s also the agent for Yasiel Puig.

  35. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:52 pm

    Should I be ashamed to say that I have no idea what Brebbia is…?….

  36. unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 7:54 pm

    He’s our #3 starter.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on February 4, 2021 at 8:33 pm

      Haha, wouldn’t be surprised…

  37. djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 8:06 pm

    If they ever decide to strip Marjorie Taylor Greene, I’d watch…

    • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 8:39 pm

      She apologized today for being allowed to believe things that aren’t true. There’s some serious S/M potential there.

  38. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on February 4, 2021 at 8:15 pm

    Of course, I also didn’t know what (or who) Tsoomgis was/is ….

    • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 8:36 pm

      8, 16, 42, owner and HC are pretty easy. Even for someone who doesn’t give a shit about numbers, etc.

      • djloo27 said, on February 4, 2021 at 8:39 pm

        and a so-so WR.
        Most of you guys should get 10 right anyway…

      • unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 9:17 pm

        12 out of 14. Missed Leo the Lion and
        Bob St Clair.

      • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:03 pm

        Oh yeah. 80

  39. alleykat69 said, on February 4, 2021 at 9:14 pm

    #8 Young ,#12 Brodie #16 Montana,#34 Perry #37 Johnson #39 McElheny
    #42 Lott,#70 Krueger#73 Nomellini ?#80 Rice #87 Clark owner Eddie D,Coach Bill Walsh
    Missing a few I think 🤔

  40. unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 9:20 pm

    #79 Bob St Clair. I woulda guessed on Nomellini’ s, Perry’s, and St Clair’s numbers.

    • unca_chuck said, on February 4, 2021 at 9:25 pm

      And I met the guy at Harry’s Hof Brau.

      • xoot said, on February 4, 2021 at 9:28 pm

        Twin’s old business partner.

  41. alleykat69 said, on February 4, 2021 at 10:27 pm

    I still can’t understand why the 49ers have never retired #64 Linebacker Dave Wilcox?
    The dude is in the football HOF ferchrissakes!!

  42. unca_chuck said, on February 5, 2021 at 11:48 am

    Huh. No shit. loved him as a kid. Hum, Charlie Krueger, Skip Vanderbundt, Jimmy Johnson, they had a bad ass defense.


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