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Throw The Damn Ball

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 17, 2021

When are our pitchers going to, you know, pitch? I am not super deep into following ST this year (or any year) but it hasn’t felt like I’ve been seeing much of our starting pitching. Cueto, who pitched last night, has thrown 7.1 innings this spring and that’s tops on the team.

For the hell of it I looked up what’s going on with other teams. 79 pitchers have thrown more than 7.1 innings this spring already. SEVENTY NINE.

That doesn’t seem random.

There are few things I loath more than babying pitchers arms. I know Wood has a back issue and there are a couple lingering things out there but how is it that 79 ST pitchers have thrown more innings than Cueto who has thrown the most on our team?

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  1. Bozo said, on March 17, 2021 at 6:42 am

    I don’t get why teams are so worried about pitchers pitching a whole season after the short one last year. I gotta think these guys were throwing somewhere all last year. It seems the Giants have been extra cautious, our pitchers, both relief and starters, were only going one inning in all those first ST games.

  2. Bozo said, on March 17, 2021 at 7:04 am

    I guess having all those pitchers in camp may have made it difficult to stretch guys out as well.

  3. Macdog said, on March 17, 2021 at 7:44 am

    I was shocked checking out Monday’s box and saw that Royals starter Danny Duffy threw 4 shutout innings!

  4. unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:06 am

    Matt’s brother?

  5. djloo27 said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:12 am

    Where’s Stix?

    • unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:16 am

      That crossed my mind yesterday. Hasn’t posted since March 8th.

      • djloo27 said, on March 17, 2021 at 11:32 am

        I hope it’s nothing more serious than some temporary Grave Duggar backlash…

  6. unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:15 am

    Damn. Trent Williams gets 6 years, $138 mill. And we get C Alex Mack Jimmy better play well this season. His rope just got shorter.

    • Winder said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:26 am

      Great news. Big money but I think we can get out of it after a few years with out much consequence.

      • chipower9 said, on March 17, 2021 at 2:16 pm

        55 mil guaranteed.30 mil signing bonus that gets spread across the six years. My understanding is his total cap hit this year (including the 5 mil in signing bonus) is 10 mil. This tells me the contract is back-loaded, which makes sense, as the cap is anticipated to rise over the next couple of years.

  7. Flavor said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:49 am

    I no longer worry about the NFL salary cap. Fucking Paragh whatever his name is is a fucking salary cap genius. Whatver the problem, he’ll take care of it

    • Winder said, on March 17, 2021 at 9:10 am

      I agree. Looking forward to more moves. I just wish we could have kept Buckner.

  8. James said, on March 17, 2021 at 9:16 am

    The good news is that SF has thrown 1188 total pitches compared to LA’s paltry 931 (correction, 995).

    • unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 9:27 am

      Well, when you have 100 pitchers, that works out to 119 throws per pitcher. They’ll be ready by August.

      • James said, on March 17, 2021 at 9:33 am

        If they can pitch a little more poorly over the next coupla weeks, there will be enough work for everybody before April.

  9. James said, on March 17, 2021 at 9:51 am

    There are 998 pitchers in the 30 ML camps. SF has used 38 so far.

  10. alleykat69 said, on March 17, 2021 at 10:19 am

    Positive from last night Reyes Moronta coming in with the bases loaded no outs and striking out 3 in a row..💪

  11. zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 10:20 am

    Craw got an HR which was cool to see. As the oldtimers used to say, this is a salary-drive season for him.

  12. zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 10:40 am

    I read an interesting article in a paper issue of Time magazine I had bought several weeks ago. The article is about the Covid-19 vaccines. Anti-vaxxers that think the vaccine was “rushed” are not correct on that in the sense that the German company that developed the first Covid-19 vaccine had been building the groundwork for the vaccine for several years, in the course of doing cancer treatment research. Medical technology has “spin-off” technologies just like other areas of technology.
    The company in Germany was founded by a husband and wife team. The article was interesting and quite good. I hadn’t read much of Time magazine over the last several years. I ended up reading the whole issue, and was impressed. The magazine seemed to have gotten better, in my opinion. I ended up buying a few more recent issues and reading the entire issues. I see a definite decision by Time magazine to stop covering so much pop culture, and to have more depth and substance to what they’re doing. I don’t know if that is the best marketing decision, or maybe it is. A certain amount of people could be hungering for what a magazine can do: take the time to go deeper into the events in the news, and bring some analysis and depth. It’s what magazines have always been able to do, but a lot of magazines are just junk and don’t bother. And with the internet being such an assault on paper magazines sales, who knows what the future holds for paper magazines sales, and paper newspapers. I’ve posted before about what a big fan I still am of paper newspapers and magazines. But I’m probably a dinosaur on this, and in another generation, they will have disappeared completely. The phrase “newspaper rack” or “magazine rack” will be phrases that are just part of history.
    Vinyl LPs have made a little bit of a comeback, so I guess there’s always the chance of the public choosing to go retro on something in a quest to rebel a bit against digital.
    For the last week, I haven’t been able to find a paper SF Chronicle in my local grocery stores. When I ask the clerks, they seem perplexed by it, too. I guess I could ask a store manager at some point. The manager might be stunned that anyone even cared to ask.

    • zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 10:57 am

      I like old photos of newsstands from previous eras. Newsstands were cool.

      • zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 11:01 am

    • Bozo said, on March 17, 2021 at 11:10 am

      I wish I had gotten rid of all my LPs before I left SF, 45s and 78s too. I still have 1,000+ and I’ve been without a turntable since we were flooded from hurricane Irene (2011). These days they just take up closet space.

      • snarkk said, on March 17, 2021 at 11:32 am

        I’ve got about 450 LPs between myself and Mrs. snarrk.
        Plus about a dozen my snarkettes have bought in recent years as LPs have made a bit of a comeback.
        A recent double album Sinatra compilation sounds particularly good on vinyl.
        I’ve got a ’70s vintage Marantz direct drive turntable, I bought it at one of the Pacific Stereo chain stores way back when — works just fine…

      • James said, on March 17, 2021 at 12:09 pm

        I still have about 2K. I actually started buying back LPs I’d gotten rid of. It’s amusing what’s valued now. Discogs is addictive. Got my Dual turntable repaired a couple years ago.

      • James said, on March 17, 2021 at 12:13 pm

        Bozo, I’m guessing a lot of the stuff you held onto would make an easy sell on discogs. Of course, that process takes time you might not want to spend on it.

      • zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 12:16 pm

        I got rid of all of my LPs and 45s at the end of the 1980s. I had made several moves during the 1980s, and I got tired of moving the boxes of vinyl LPs, which are, as you all know, quite heavy. And CDs were starting to happen, so I thought, well, those things are kinda small. They won’t be so heavy to move. Ha! Boxes of CDs are pretty dang heavy in their own right. The sound of vinyl records on a good stereo system is the best, though.
        One of my roommates in the 1980s had an awesome stereo system. Those records sounded so great. He eventually got married, and I was off on another move.
        I donated a lot of vinyl LPs to a local library, back when that library used to have a record section. A few years later that library sold its entire collection of records to the public and closed down its record section. Those albums I donated are all over the place now. 🙂
        And some of the albums I sold at a yard sale for ridiculously low prices. They sold very quickly. A few of the records were fairly collectable things. A few times over the years I’ve kind of thought I should have hung onto them. But then that feeling fades pretty quickly as I remember moving those boxes.
        Of course, one of the things I miss is the big artwork and lay-out of some of the LPs. Albums that folded out, and some that had pages and photos and other things. I kept the 4 photos that came with the Beatles white album. But over the years I’ve lost those photos somewhere. And I also lost the lyric poster that came with that album.
        I kept the two cool booklets that came with Elton John’s Captain Fantastic album. I still have those two booklets. And I still have the cool lyric poster that came with the Clash’s Sandinista album. Sandinista is a triple album, and it sold for the price of a double album. The Clash were very into keeping their prices low. Ah, the memories kind of flood back….

      • James said, on March 17, 2021 at 12:25 pm

        I’ve been buying the occasional comp CD box when it has a good booklet. Here’s a recent acquisition that might interest you, Zumie:

        https://syncopatedtimes.com/protobilly-the-minstrel-and-tin-pan-alley-dna-of-country-music/

      • zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 12:33 pm

        Very interesting!

      • Bozo said, on March 17, 2021 at 1:03 pm

        I pared down my collection over the years going over to Amoeba or a friend’s old store, Flat Plastic Sound, just wish I had done more. Some of the rock stuff I’ve had since the late 60s or early 70s and show the wear, although I might be able to sell them for the covers alone. Stuff like the original Satanic Majesties Request with the 3D cover or the original Sticky Fingers cover with the zipper might sell I guess. Even some of the out of print jazz stuff that I have is no longer out of print and has been reissued in other formats (I think some of the Blue Note stuff was even rereleased on vinyl). All the Arhoolie stuff is probably reissued now that Smithsonian/Folkways bought the catalog. Maybe I should just get off my ass and buy another turntable and know I’ll be hiring movers again.

      • James said, on March 17, 2021 at 1:37 pm

        If those Blue Notes are original pressings, they’ll still fetch good prices. I have a friend who collected them obsessively in the 70s. I was never focused like that. But yeah, that copy of Billy and De De Pierce on Arhoolie isn’t going to pay for a good bottle of booze.

      • xoot said, on March 17, 2021 at 1:46 pm

        Ah, Arhoolie! For a while in the early 90s I lived right up the hill from Down Home Music. What a great place.

    • chipower9 said, on March 17, 2021 at 2:19 pm

      Vinyl LPs outsold CDs last year.

  13. zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 12:25 pm

    Remember these four photos from the White Album?

    • Bozo said, on March 17, 2021 at 1:05 pm

      I don’t have those, but I still have the postcards that came with Exile on Main Street.

  14. unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 1:28 pm

    I’m starting to think the 49ers will make a serious run at Deshaun Watson. They restructured Goodwin and Ford. We can package them with Armstead and a couple 1st round picks for him.

    Watson has said he wants to be either here or Denver. And really, that means here. Texas is losing leverage day by day. If Watson doesn’t get dealt, he may do what Trent Williams did and sit out the year.

    Still have the Pink Floyd posters in Dark Side. . .

  15. unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    I have about 80 albums. Used to have about 300. Lost 2 boxes in a flooded basement. I hadn’t opened the box in about 15 years and found, right on top, a clear blue vinyl Jimi Hendrix greatest hits album from Japan that I got from Rod’s Used Records in San Carlos for $25.00 in 1980. No memory of buying that.

  16. djloo27 said, on March 17, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    Two of the greatest joys in life are giving things away or throwing them out…

    • unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 4:34 pm

      My mom was the queen of ‘if it ain’t nailed down, it’s going in the trash’ philosophy. 3 shoeboxes of baseball cards from about ’68 to ’76. . . . Love ya, ma, but that really was a wicked pisser.

  17. djloo27 said, on March 17, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    The Grave Duggar is 1-4 with a sharp single today.
    Jaylin Davis just singled him home…

  18. djloo27 said, on March 17, 2021 at 4:01 pm

    The Grave Duggar once again demonstrating a keen eye as he works out yet another BB…

    • Flavor said, on March 17, 2021 at 4:17 pm

      shit he’s got midnight vision. He don’t dig during the day. Seeing the spin and trajectory of a ball is child’s play for him

      • djloo27 said, on March 17, 2021 at 4:27 pm

        Balls 3 and 4 were just slightly off the corners on Gameday…

      • unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 4:41 pm

        I got nine lives, cat’s eyes
        Abusing every pitcher and running wild

      • djloo27 said, on March 17, 2021 at 4:45 pm

        I’m a Grave Duggar,
        I’m a Grave Duggar,
        Watchin’ balls go by,
        My, my, my…

  19. unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 4:36 pm

    Duggar’s walk-up song.

    • unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 4:40 pm

      The guitar player sounds like Randy Rhoads, and the singer looks like spoiled meat loaf.

    • Flavor said, on March 17, 2021 at 5:14 pm

      love to see em swing dem bats. And Gausman, look at him. 2.1 innings of ironman work.

    • xoot said, on March 17, 2021 at 5:37 pm

      They keep making errors. Man.

      • James said, on March 17, 2021 at 6:14 pm

        No reason why that should be any better or worse than last year. Wish we could get more Flores/Solano PAs via DH …

      • xoot said, on March 17, 2021 at 6:33 pm

        ‘the Giants’ 19 errors lead the majors this spring after two more Wednesday — two more than any other club. “It’s just not good enough, frankly,” said manager Gabe Kapler, ‘

        Thanks, Gabe. And there was a Tromp passed ball today, too.

      • djloo27 said, on March 17, 2021 at 6:35 pm

        They’re not used to fielding the new dead ball…

  20. xoot said, on March 17, 2021 at 7:14 pm

    Or throwing it.

    • James said, on March 17, 2021 at 7:46 pm

      They simply *can’t* throw the damn ball.

  21. zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 7:18 pm

    There’s a lot going on in the artwork on the front and back covers of the Captain Fantastic album.

    • djloo27 said, on March 17, 2021 at 7:36 pm

      Looks a little like one of these:

      • zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:10 pm

      • xoot said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:13 pm

        Bidding starts at 69 million

  22. Flavor said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:03 pm

    you want better defense, fucking Grave Duggar man. Six tools. SIX MOTHERFUCKING TOOLS!

    • Flavor said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:05 pm

      batting average. power. speed. glove. arm. shovel.

      • zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    • xoot said, on March 17, 2021 at 8:46 pm

      “… I can dig it, he can dig it
      She can dig it, we can dig it
      They can dig it, you can dig it
      Oh, let’s dig it…”

      The Friends of Distinction

  23. Macdog said, on March 17, 2021 at 9:10 pm

    Giants fans in S.F. are going crazy
    They’re laughing just like hungry dogs in the street
    Opponents are crying like hysterical little girls
    Their eyes have the look of impending defeat

    Yes, yes, yes, yes
    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
    Steve Duggar has risen from the grave
    Steve Duggar has risen from the grave

    • zumiee said, on March 17, 2021 at 10:19 pm

      When I was a kid I saw the movie “Dracula Has Risen From The Grave” and was relatively traumatized by it.

  24. unca_chuck said, on March 17, 2021 at 10:29 pm

    Night of the Living Dead for me. My older bro made me stay up and watch it with him when they showed it uncut on Creature Features. The scene where the little girl kills her mom with a trowel in the basement while the light swings around stays with me to this day. Kinda freaked me out, but I’m such a horror buff because of that movie.

  25. Winder said, on March 18, 2021 at 8:13 am

    I think it was around the late 50’s but after watching the untouchables I started to make sure our front door was locked. Wasn’t sure that someone with a machine gun wouldn’t come down our street.


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