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Win Train Keeps On Rolling

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on April 11, 2021

We’re so spoiled to start this season it’s gotten to the point when one of our SP’s goes 5 and gives up 3 runs we’re like, “What’s wrong with THAT guy?”

The hitting is another story. Team batting average is currently .197.

But whatever, if we can play .625 ball while failing to crest the Mendoza Line, so be it…..

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  1. willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 6:57 am

    well, despite stellar ST, Webb does seem like exactly same guy as last season–good stuff/no command. Nothing wrong with running him out there, but you gotta wonder if Kapler is shortening leash a couple notches.

  2. zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 6:57 am

    I wonder if that guy likes the Mendoza Line being named after him. Is it fame or infamy? Maybe he has a sense of humor about it.

  3. zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 6:59 am

    On a Giants radio broadcast it was mentioned that a few teams were currently below the Line.

    • Macdog said, on April 11, 2021 at 7:25 am

      Three other teams are below .200, worse even than the Giants: Brewers .196, A’s .189, Cubs .168.

  4. zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 7:05 am

    Solano got his Silver Slugger Award.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/SFGiants/status/1380974503790997504/photo/1

  5. zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 7:36 am

    So far the Giants are making good use of a somewhat friendly April schedule.

  6. zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 7:44 am

    The weather in the Calif. Central Valley is the best it gets all year at the moment. Beautiful slightly breezy Spring weather. Eventually the weather will get real hot. But for now, it’s glorious. And progress is being made against the pandemic. There’s such feeling of hope in the air.
    So different from a year ago, when society was in a dystopian nightmare of the virus exploding, things shutting down, and people hoarding toilet paper.
    Hopefully things continue to improve.

  7. zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 7:52 am

    Annoying uses of language:
    “making memories”
    “right?”
    “Look,”
    “over-shift” (instead of shift)
    “scoring the basketball” and “rebounding the basketball”

    • Macdog said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:01 am

      Ha, “over-shift” by Kuiper and sometimes Miller always bugs me.

  8. willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 7:53 am

    Game deciding hit 2 days in a row from Crawford.
    Noticed Korean SS for Pads homered yesterday. He was in LF for them I think before Tatis Jr. was hurt.
    Blogger in Athletic, commenting on Tatis Jr. injury, wondered if Pads would ask SF about Crawford should Jr. need shoulder surgery this season after all. Complicated obviously given $$ and his rights, but….

  9. willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:14 am

    giants would only need to play .429 ball rest of season to surpass 70 Ws.

  10. blade3colorado said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:14 am

    Crawford’s offensive play has been outstanding. He is a very streaky hitter, so this could last for awhile. I am hoping his defense is good going forward too. Of all the likely “bore core” candidates, I think him and Belt have the best chance of being traded at the deadline, although one or both of them have “no trade” clauses (Craw I think).

    • Winder said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:36 am

      As long as Craw’s winning games we got to put him out there. He’s obviously not in any long term plans and hopefully he can continue to help us win some games. It will be an interesting situation when the trade deadline comes along if the FO thinks we have a good shot at making the playoffs.

    • Flavor said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:38 am

      Brandon Crawford is batting .160

      • Winder said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:41 am

        True. but timely hitting has it’s +’s

      • blade3colorado said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:45 am

        Not looking at that. He has two straight days with a go-ahead hit for the GMen, and it was the first three-run bomb of the year for them too. Besides, that’s sort of like Willie’s comment above regarding .429 pace for 70 wins . . . Way too early to make any long term judgements. My entire focus is can he play 60-70 games at the pace he did last year during the truncated season, where we can trade him for something at the trade deadline?

      • Flavor said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:51 am

        I bet he doesn’t want to look at that either

  11. alleykat69 said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:50 am

    Without a decent SS ready in the system ready I don’t see Crawford going anywhere.Dubon scares me as the only reliable backup,but Kapler has no choice right now using him both in center and SS.And right now with the usual maladies of Belt he’s especially not traceable right now,he’s still all screwed up from covid,mono,heel, losing weight,his swing is awful and he’s striking out on swing thru’s he usually crushes..

    • Lurker John said, on April 11, 2021 at 10:05 am

      Not to mention that Dubon doesn’t seem to be able to hit his weight. I’m still not sold on Dubon, but I hope he proves me wrong. I know he ended up coming on a bit last year.

  12. Flavor said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:12 am

    come on you guys. I appreciate what Craw has done with his four hits this year but .160 cannot be spun in any way as having “outstanding offensive play.”

    • blade3colorado said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:30 am

      Hey . . . I threw him a bone. Look at my posts going back to the beginning of 2019 regarding his play. I really dislike how far he has fallen. So what? I just want his ass traded and hope he plays unconscious until the trade deadline.

      By the by, where’s Duggar? lqtm.

      • djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:49 am

        Planning his vengeance
        That he will soon unfurl…

    • willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:36 am

      Kim is now hitting even .200 with that one HR, his only XBH.
      Gleyber Torres is batting .219 without a HR and1 double. Also defensive liability as SS.
      As Blade said earlier, see if he can get anywhere near last year numbers by deadline, especially with archways as is..
      wonder who will be playing SS in Sac for River Cats?

  13. gianthead said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:17 am

    Have not been able to watch last two but Rockies must stink…when is the first brawl with the Flodgers???

    • James said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:53 am

      Two caught stealing, one with no outs and another with 1, didn’t help them. The 2 successful attempts led to nothing.

  14. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:38 am

    Enjoy it while you can. Checked out team stats on MLB official site and Giants pitching is top ten MLB in most categories and top five in some. Co-leader with the Pads in saves and high in ERA,WHIP and BA against. Big fall-down in special-K’s. though, so they’re doing a lot with soft contact. Walks and HRs allowed also not too bad.
    For you gamblers out there, how bout a pool on when the first big blowup happens where 10+ runs are given up—and which team does it. Were I a betting man, I’d say the chances are no worse than 50-50 it would be the Reds.

  15. djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:46 am

    The Giants pick up Triple-A SS depth, acquire recently DFAd infielder Thairo Estrada from the Yankees.
    Jaylin Davis to the 60-day IL (patella tendinitis).

    • djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:47 am

      FWIW, a big Yankee fan friend of mine loves this guy…

  16. Flavor said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:52 am

    Jaylin Davis fake injury news

  17. Flavor said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:56 am

    considering the problems Torres has had at SS for NY it is weird that they’d basically just give us this dude.

    • Lurker John said, on April 11, 2021 at 10:07 am

      Not weird so much as they must not think he’s all that good. How else do you explain it?

      • Flavor said, on April 11, 2021 at 10:18 am

        well what about Loo’s buddy who absolutely loves him?

    • djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 10:15 am

      The weirdest thing to me is the Yankees needing “cash considerations”…

      • willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 10:33 am

        more about trying to stay under lux tax, per young Steinbrenners?
        Btw, feel better, I hope?

  18. Lurker John said, on April 11, 2021 at 10:01 am

    Well, 5-3 I’ll take that. The hitting figures to improve because it really has nowhere to go but up. Two straight series wins, with a chance for the sweep today. As for Webb, I think he’ll continue to get his shots if he at least keeps the Giants in the games, with the hope being that he’ll settle into a groove. It just goes to show the difference, again, between ST and the regular season, but he was really good so let’s see how it shakes out. I think most of it is between his ears at this point. Once (if) he starts to believe, he should be okay.

    Go Giants! Sweep the Rox!

    • willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 10:41 am

      and Webb hasn’t gotten bombed out of a game and given up bunch of runs. He isn’t able to locate, missing outside to LH and RH while trying to paint corners or go low and away. Then he’s behind in count. Yesterday 10 baserunners in 5 innings…guess it’s more the aesthetics of watching him struggle like last season that bug me the most. He’s only young controllable SP Giants have, so hope he figures something out.

      • alleykat69 said, on April 11, 2021 at 10:59 am

        Agree Willied. It’s not like Webb doesn’t have good stuff, but it looks like he gets to dependent on his slider/ breaking ball over his fastball.Rockies were laying off his pitches because they just were not close to the strike zone.Then he got slider happy and McMahon rode it out.He just gets to predictable, but I still like his stuff and he’s 24 still plenty of time to get better with maturity, it’s just a process with all young pitchers.,

    • Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 11:17 am

      Webb simply needs a lot of affirmative–“you got good stuff, rely on that, the fielders have your back” –so use it–coaching, most specifically the smooth, slow and easy Georgia style which Buster will impart. I’d almost mortally afraid to see what would happen with Webb getting serviced by any of last year’s catchers.

      With steady support from Posey, Webb can get cozy. Kid should be really thankful for his battery-mate, what with those two cut-down perfectly-pegged, attempted base thieves nabbed right in the act. The look on “Dancing Queen’s” face was priceless. When Webb realizes he’s got a whole team behind him, he should get over the yips and settle into his groove.

  19. alleykat69 said, on April 11, 2021 at 10:49 am

    Yeah LJ ..A sweep 🧹 would be exactly what they need with a smokin hot Reds team coming in next averaging 9 runs a game.Huge test to see how the pitching staff holds up.
    They are firing on all cylinders right now.They have this kid coming out of the BP Lefty Chione Perez who’s only 5’11 and 162 lbs but throws 99 with a 91 slider even his catcher Barhart can’t believe he can generate that speed at his small frame.. ( maybe a smaller version of Billy Wagner?)
    Yeah Loo how you feeling now?

  20. djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 11:14 am

    Thanks, guys. Much better today.
    Pretty crappy yesterday, fever, chills, aching all over.
    Eased up a lot after 36 hours just like y’all said…

  21. alleykat69 said, on April 11, 2021 at 11:51 am

    Even though the Giants are not hitting a lick ( a lot of teams similar this early in the season,I’m not worried a week in is nothing)they are impressing me by getting a lot of pitches out of the opposing SP/Relievers really wearing them down.They have a lot of players on the roster who can work counts are just fouling off a tough pitch..

    • willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 12:07 pm

      7 BBs/4 Ks yesterday. 2 of those walked came around to score on Earl Weaver special by Crawford.

      • alleykat69 said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:04 pm

        Always like a Earl Weaver reference! The king of 3 run homers for a team that sure had the power to do it consistently!
        He was one fiery manager along with Martin&Pinella i throughly enjoyed watching..
        Weaver’s overall track record percentage for a manager pretty damm impressive..

  22. xoot said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:16 pm

    If I heard correctly, Disco’s warmup song was Gimme Shelter. Negative positive, if so

  23. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:21 pm

    Dick Tater!!!

  24. alleykat69 said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:26 pm

    Giants LU with a surprise starter..
    LaStella 2B
    Yaz RF
    Dickerson LF
    Belt 1B
    Longoria 3B
    Crawford SS
    Casáli C
    Wade CF
    Disco P

  25. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:26 pm

    In two wonderfully destructive at bats Dickerson and Belt accumulated a run and a walk over some 15 pitches, getting Marquez’ pitch count up to two dozen in the first inning. If Colorado’s “ace” doesn’t turn things around in upcoming innings, he could be an early casualty to the death of a thousand fouls.

    • alleykat69 said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:36 pm

      Yeah Stix my 1:04 post on how the Giants are making pitches labor says it all.( they have to lead the league in pitch taken)This pitcher just threw 33 pitches he’s on a pace for 3 innings 99 pitches and gone.. I’m sure it won’t be that high but still he’s out fast if he doesn’t get his shit together..

    • alleykat69 said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:38 pm

      Make that 36 pitches must of missed a couple while getting a beer 🍺..

  26. Bozo said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:28 pm

    Belt, the base stealing master.

  27. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:29 pm

    On pitch #30, Longobardo gets into it by singling and plating the gimpy-legged base-thief. I love it.

  28. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    On 36 pitches, another six to Crawdaddy to cap the contusions, Marquez finally escaped the first inning. If SF hitters keep up the barrage, he might last through the 3rd. No expectations here, but a delight to speculate.

  29. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:37 pm

    Keep those fingers crossed as SF has been fortunate so far. Latest casualties to the injured list are 5th starter Morejon for the Pads and star hitter Yelich for the Brewers.

    • gianthead said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:44 pm

      Let some of those injury darts hit the Flodgers…

      • Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:47 pm

        Couldn’t happen to a better bunch of millionaires, owned by a family of multi-billionaires.

  30. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    It cost him 19 pitches, half of them to their catcher, Dom Nunez (3 HRs on the season) but Disco dancer made it through the second at 34 total throws for 2 IP. Experimenting perhaps? DeSclafani tried a couple of those knuckle-curves, but command wasn’t there as both hit the dirt.

    Looking like this one will see a couple of early activated bullpens.

  31. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:50 pm

    Nice start for Wade as he singles in his first SF at-bat. Any word on who went down so he could come up? MLBTR had no info when I checked.

  32. willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:50 pm

    LaMonte? And he’s now batting 1.000 points higher than someone he beat out?

    • willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:59 pm

      Lady on Slusser’s twitter thread said she saw Wade play in Sac yesterday. hmmnn

  33. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 1:54 pm

    Marquez slithered successfully through the second, despite Wade’s “hello” ,on only 8 pitches. Evidently, he made Casali and LaStella pitches they simply couldn’t refuse. If he keeps on with that strategy it could backfire in the third. He’s now at 44 over two. At that rate he might could go five.

  34. willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:01 pm

    So Moronta is on IL and Wade takes his place—Kapler going with “only” 12 pitchers? After today 3 games with Reds before road trip that begins with Marlins and includes games 13 days in a row.

  35. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:03 pm

    Disco escaped by the proverbial skin of his teeth with two on and the dangerous Charlie Blackmon providentially flying out to Wade in CF. 50 pitches through three IP/almost 17 per. We need some insurance.

  36. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:08 pm

    Marquez has hit his stride, striking out the side. Now at 56 per 3 IP. He made it through the top of the order, guys who killed him in the 1st. He could easily go five at this pace. Not even a whiff of insurance in the third, but plenty of whiffs of a different nature.

  37. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:21 pm

    4th K in a row for Marquez. Leads Longo with a FB and then 3 consecutive knuckle-curves. Only one of the latter missed the plate, low and out.

  38. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:24 pm

    Identical pattern on Casali gets Marquez outta the inning–now at 68/4IP. Boy, did he turn his game around. Maybe Disco and Spider need to do a bunch of experimenting on the sideline to see whether they can develop successful “killers”.

  39. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:29 pm

    Quickie for Disco. He needed that. Zero runs through 5. He deserves some insurance, though.

    • djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:31 pm

  40. djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:30 pm

    I don’t like the sound of Moronta’s injury…
    “Right Flexor Strain”

    • Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:35 pm

      Ouch! Will Dubon go down with a phantom injury so the staff can be back to 13, particularly with the Reds looming? At least they will not face us at their Great American Bandstand.

  41. willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:31 pm

    And still batting 1.000, Wade doubles into RF corner.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:33 pm

      we’ve been Wading for someone with such a high BA and OBP. Disco moved him to 3rd on a well-executed sac-bunt. So can the top of the lineup get him in?

      • willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:36 pm

        that wasn’t good. Have a feeling Giants gonna need more than 2 runs to win today. Marquez has been really good since he settled in after early difficulties.

  42. zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:49 pm

    Two big Ks.

  43. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:53 pm

    Whew! And double Whew! No disco-balls resulting in runs today. With 94 pitches going seven, Anthony currently cannot lose, but that depends on Kap pulling him. Helluva artful dodger act. Glad we have him and not the LaBumbos. Now those hitters need to find the chinks in Marquez’ new armor—those knuckle-curves.

  44. Bozo said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    Belt.

  45. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    Belted!!! Yee hah.

  46. Macdog said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    Belted!

  47. djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 2:55 pm

    Belt looked an old Mickey Mantle hobbling around the bases.
    As the deranged Tiger fan would say:
    HE’S INJURED!!!!!!!

  48. Macdog said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:12 pm

    Yeesh, not a smart play by Alvarez, bailed out by Craw.

  49. Macdog said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:13 pm

    Uh-oh, Matsuyama finds the creek at 15.

  50. zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:22 pm

    A couple of Houdini innings in a row.

  51. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:22 pm

    Whew! Yet one more time. Mr. Rogers walks one and then gets the ever dangerous Charlie Blackmon to fly out with yessir, yessir, three bags full. From what looked to be a romp in the first, this one too has taken on nail-biter status.

  52. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:27 pm

    Yaz. At laz. A ringing double. Does this one signal a turnaround? Check in tomorrow night for the details.

  53. Flavor said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:29 pm

    This run of starting pitching we are getting is just astounding

  54. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:37 pm

    With his 7th rbi, Longo drives in Yaz (finally showing a tad of MaTaz) and ups his BA to .333.

  55. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:40 pm

    Nice quickie by Mr Rogers. Is he turning reliable on us, or just teasing?

    • djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:41 pm

      Probably both, Stix…

  56. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:54 pm

    Nice to see Cincy’s hot hitting come to a screeching halt in of all places, the Snakespit, where Weaver pitched like a dream, giving up no hits through six. Total hits for the Reds in their shutout loss was two. Will that drop-off continue by the Bay?

    • zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:55 pm

      The ballpark will help.

      • zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 3:56 pm

        I hope.

  57. Macdog said, on April 11, 2021 at 4:04 pm

    Wildy.

  58. Bozo said, on April 11, 2021 at 4:07 pm

    Thats another W.

    • zumiee said, on April 11, 2021 at 4:08 pm

  59. Macdog said, on April 11, 2021 at 4:07 pm

    SWEEEEEP!

  60. djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 4:08 pm

  61. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 4:09 pm

    The coda to the story was that Wandy’s magic was looking frayed at the seams, till he got Trevor to fly out and preserved the shutout win. Six and Three, gang. Let’s get some runs in the Cincy series and make a bit of hay in the month of April.

  62. djloo27 said, on April 11, 2021 at 4:46 pm

    OK, now back to the Waterloo video…

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on April 11, 2021 at 7:59 pm

      lulz

  63. willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 4:48 pm

    iirc Loo said before season started 15-11 for month wasn’t out of question. Appears well within reach.

    Meanwhile, sounds like Wiseman has meniscus tear and could be out 4-6 weeks, with 5 weeks to go in regular season. blogs everywhere talk about him all the time–I wish fans would chill and give the guy a couple more years of experience to go on. He’s not the key to anything. And oh btw get stronger inside players than Looney to back him up.

  64. willedav said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:10 pm

    Wild game btw Braves and Phils, lot of ex Giants involved as Phils rallied for 7-6 W
    2 SPs were Matt Moore and Smyly, who both gave up 5 runs in 5 innings.
    Coonrod for Phils gave up tying HR in 7th to Acuna.
    Wil Smith lost it in top 9 as Phils scored on close play at plate, now 0-2 already.

    • Flavor said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:11 pm

      they’re saying even review missed the fact that the dude never actually touched the plate. How could review miss that?

  65. Carstie Clausen said, on April 11, 2021 at 8:45 pm

    Well traveled with less than 9 MLB innings pitched RHer Ashton Goudeau was claimed off waivers from SF by none other than LosBumbos. Goudeau was DFAed when the Giants claimed Skye Bolt from Colorado. LA will be his seventh organization. Those 8+ innings were with the Rox last season.

  66. mrsprtdude said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:09 pm

    From the Athletic…”In fact, the Giants are three games over .500 for the first time since July 2018 — and the first time in the Farhan Zaidi era”.

  67. mrsprtdude said, on April 11, 2021 at 9:09 pm

    YAY!!!

  68. willedav said, on April 12, 2021 at 7:02 am

    Reds record and gaudy stat line includes whomping the woeful Pirates 3 times in middle of it. They just dropped 2 of 3 to DBax.

  69. willedav said, on April 12, 2021 at 7:06 am

    According to Slusser, Kapler said Moronta’s flexor strain is “minor.”

    • xoot said, on April 12, 2021 at 7:26 am

      it’ll give him a chance to gain back a few of those pounds he lost in ST


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