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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on April 16, 2021

It feels like the Marlins are always a pain to play. Anyone know what our career record vs them is? I tried finding that but whet down a rabbit hole at baseball-ref and barely got back out alive.

Game time is 4:10PM PST

Disappointed to hear about Cueto but my main man in Portland, Luke, says there’s nothing to worry about: We have the pitching to cover for him.

I’m going with Luke on this one till further evidence emerges…..

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  1. unca_chuck said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:35 pm

    McGee pipes 2 fastballs down the middle 0-2. And surprisingly gives p a hit. Stupid.

  2. Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:36 pm

    how bad are we gonna miss Grave Duggar’s D in extras if we get there?

    • alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:39 pm

      More then his offense I guess?

      • Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:43 pm

        needs more at bats to bury you. Continue to sleep with both eyes open.

      • alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:44 pm

        Lol 😂

  3. Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:40 pm

    That was painful to watch.

  4. Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:40 pm

    35 pitches to not be the losing pitcher. Whew!

  5. Bozo said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:41 pm

    Get em in extras, hey we have a lead off double.

  6. xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:41 pm

    Arena ball.

  7. unca_chuck said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:41 pm

    Do you miss the holograms? He’s king of the holograms!

  8. unca_chuck said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:42 pm

    At least we have a fast guy on 2nd.

  9. Macdog said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:42 pm

    McGee due up 2nd, has Kap used up the bench?

  10. alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:43 pm

    35 pitches and it felt like 70…
    Well somehow still tied after McGee blows the save.
    Looks like we’re going to Doval after all, there’s no one left in the BP right?

  11. xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:43 pm

    “Remember. Slater will be the runner in second!” Kuip

    • xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:44 pm

      He wouldn’t’ve been so cheery with Duggar out there. You know that’s true.

  12. Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:45 pm

    Betcha that’s the first time Disco has come in as a pinch hitter.

  13. alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:48 pm

    Just go on contact at this point .

  14. xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:48 pm

    What AI told them not to run some version of the safety squeeze there?

  15. alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    This beyond pathetic now..

  16. xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    Gumby!

    • xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:53 pm

      “That pitch was right there in his nitro zone.” Javy L. Thumbs up?

  17. Macdog said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    Saved by the Belt!

  18. Bozo said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    Atta way Mr. Belt.

  19. djloo27 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    Nice fat one to rake…

  20. Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    Belted enough to get the lead back.

  21. alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    Oh thank you lord! May I have another Belt!

  22. Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    How does Desclafani not score there? With two down?

    • alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:55 pm

      Cause he’s a pitcher with pitcher legs.

  23. Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    Challenge. Was it that close? Only got gameday here.

    • xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:53 pm

      It was astonishingly close.

    • Bozo said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:55 pm

      Close, but he was out. It was a heck of a play.

      • xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:59 pm

        1B Hands? I’d say so.

      • Bozo said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:06 pm

        Yep. I’d say fingers but he palmed that ball, just before Dubon got his foot down, what a play.

  24. alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:54 pm

    Shit Dubon u needed to hustle threw that play then easing up..

    • Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:55 pm

      It did look like he eased up.

  25. Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:54 pm

    BB9 starting to get hot. He did that last year and carried the team for awhile.

  26. gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:54 pm

    Was Dubon doing more watching of the play than running it out but at least Belt comes up clutch again tonight..

  27. Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:55 pm

    Kapler evidently leery about Doval thrown into that situation. So we get Jarvy.

  28. djloo27 said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:57 pm

    I realize now that they count team LOB differently than individual LOB, at least in these live box scores.
    Miami has 25 individually and 17 as a team (at the end of innings like always)…

  29. xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 6:58 pm

    Wow. Casali is telling Garcia who’s in charge. Tough vet.

  30. Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    That blue haired dude is really annoying me. Maybe another gold chain would help.

    • alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:08 pm

      Yeah just another typical collapse against this freaking team..

    • xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:10 pm

      Chisholm I think

  31. alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:04 pm

    Does anybody speak Garcia?

  32. Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:07 pm

    WTF

  33. Bozo said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:07 pm

    Ahh shit.

    • xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:08 pm

      Yeah

  34. unca_chuck said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:08 pm

    Fuck me sideways

  35. Macdog said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:08 pm

    Goddamn shitty relief pitchers.

  36. gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:08 pm

    Why did they not bring in a righty for Garcia there??? kapler failure

  37. djloo27 said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:08 pm

  38. Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:09 pm

    Does Miami have a resident spell-caster who shows up whenever the Giants are in town? Kapler got bit in the ass by using up his bench again. He’s a bit much into that L-R thang.

    • Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:11 pm

      He ain’t no Boch. Whatever he’s gnawing on behind that mask ain’t getting the job done.

  39. djloo27 said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:09 pm

    Slater ain’t innocent either…

    • Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:13 pm

      If you’re talking about not scoring on that obvious base hit, I agree. What the hell did he see on that one.

      • sandog said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:24 pm

        Graveduggar scores on that play 8 days a week.

      • djloo27 said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:27 pm

        You ain’t gettin’ a Beatles video from me…

  40. Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:10 pm

    That’s as bad a loss as you can have.

  41. willedav said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:11 pm

    was out to dinner, turned on Flem on radio and he said run not scoring top 10 might cost them the game. Sure enough…

  42. alleykat69 said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:12 pm

    Because he has no balls too see what Doval could do.Why the hell did you call him up for then!
    I hate when your manager shows no confidence in situations if he could do the job are not u have to find out..

  43. sandog said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:17 pm

    Flem couldn’t stop saying how surprised he was that Dubon didn’t beat out that play. Makes we wonder if he was dogging it down the line. Was he?

    • Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:23 pm

      It looked like he eased up before reaching the bag.

  44. willedav said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:20 pm

    If you asked Casali I think the guy optioned out would be Garcia, til the signs get translated for him or something. flem said he was really hot and yelling at dugout after second or third cross up.

    • sandog said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:22 pm

      I love that Flem criticizes these guys a little bit. He just came out and said Garcia doesn’t know the signs.

      • Macdog said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:25 pm

        That’s unreal.

  45. Lurker John said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:23 pm

    How does any pitcher reach the major leagues and not know the signs? That’s unbelievable.

    • djloo27 said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:25 pm

      It’s unbelievable in high school.
      Only on the Giants…

      • sandog said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:27 pm

        Signs, signs, everywhere there’s signs, fucking up the scenery, breaking my mind. Do this, don’t do that—–don’t you know the signs????

  46. Macdog said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:27 pm

    Sandawg, here’s the play:

    • sandog said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:29 pm

      Thanks for this. I agree with LJ.

  47. gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:28 pm

    McGee has been money so I aint giving him grief but no excuse not to bring in the new righty in that situation…but no excuse for Dubon to not bust ass down the line. Flat out no excuse. I would consider sending him a message and send him down now that we have the Grave Man here…

    • djloo27 said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:31 pm

      Completely agree…

      • gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:18 pm

        Great minds…

    • sandog said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:31 pm

      I don’t blame Kapler on this one. Pitchers didn’t get it done.

      Were TV guys talking about Sanchez’ fastball topping out at 87?? Miller and Flem were concerned.

      • gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:18 pm

        Sanchez is going to be get what you see and dont expect much…Wood will probably be the better starter..

  48. Irish Kevin said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:38 pm

    Well that sucked, not much else to say

  49. blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 7:58 pm

    McGee wears this . . . No one else (especially Kapler, whom played it by the book). I still recall his terrible 2018 and 2019 Sherpa seasons after he signed a 3 year, $27 million contract in 2017. Hoping that this isn’t his MO again, but be prepared for north of 1.40 WHIPs going forward. Seriously.

    • Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:07 pm

      One thing to consider than I just read on twitter: McGee was managed carefully by LA. The Giants run him out there over and over and over. The dude has one pitch. This is not how to use him, the Giants need to find someone else STAT to close games

      • blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:12 pm

        Agree Flavor. Read this article . . . https://www.denverpost.com/2020/07/17/jake-mcgee-bryan-shaw-released-rockies/

        Rockies waived both him and Bryan Shaw because “Their stuff was similar to what we’ve seen the past couple years,” per Black, the manager; with the GM, Bridich adding, “The primary piece of the decision was past performance and expected future performance,”

        One trick pony. lol

      • Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:14 pm

        i like the guy I just don’t understand why Kap decided this is his horse. This guy is not a horse.

    • Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:11 pm

      why would you bring up what he did in Col? That’s silly. Everyone pitches poorly up there, you know that

      • blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:15 pm

        Not entirely true. He was excellent in Colorado in 2017.

      • Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:18 pm

        so he had an excellent year in Colorado and you’re *recalling* his two bad years? If you think the guy sucks why would you reference an *excellent* year he had in a place that’s impossible to pitch in? You seem to be arguing multiple positions or maybe I’m not sure what your take is. What, exactly, is your take?

      • blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:33 pm

        My “take” is that he’s not the pitcher he was in 2017. Why? Well, take a look at his birth certificate for a start. Oh, almost 35 years old. Okay, maybe old age.

  50. Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:11 pm

    and Kapler needs to fuck his *book*. McGee is not a machine you just keep running out there over an over.

    • gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:15 pm

      Or Gott last year…

    • blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:17 pm

      Again, disagree. He is playing with the cards he was dealt. If you have a shitty pitching staff and especially, a fucked up bullpen – you don’t have too many options.

      • Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:19 pm

        so if you were managing the Giants you’d send out a guy you knew was gassed and couldn’t do the job? Then you’d both be shitty managers.

      • blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:23 pm

        Dude, that was his “CLOSER” and he didn’t get the job done. Pfffttt!

      • blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:25 pm

        Now, the next time a save situation comes up? No, I wouldn’t go with McGee. Next man standing as the saying goes. But good luck with that . . . I don’t see anyone in this pen capable of closing quite frankly.

  51. gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:15 pm

    Hell of a Warriors Celtics game!!! NBA at its best…

  52. Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:16 pm

    now, if you want to argue Kap has no one else to close then I’ll go with that, but this *by the book* shit is nonsense. He has to have an idea of whether this guy can keep getting run out there, right? This is his job

    • gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:23 pm

      And looked like the Marlins were swinging away at what he was throwing knowing what was coming instead of taking a lot of pitches.

  53. xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:16 pm

    I think maybe I’ll relax and watch The Long Goodbye “with Jim Bouton as Terry Lennox.” If you like the big Lebowski you’ve gotta see the original. Get back at it manana.

  54. blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:20 pm

    You’ll never get me to believe the manager is a big reason why teams lose. Yes, they get fired all the time. So what? Easier to fire a minimum pay manager versus 9 mediocre multi-million dollar baseball players.

    • gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:26 pm

      Kapler was absolutely awful with the Phillies and was ripped by their fan base for strategic ineptitude, especially with his bullpen. We saw a bit of that last year but he got a plus grade with me but he does not strike me as the brightest bulb on strategy. I still think the big lanky kid Hjelle is an eventual closer. Let’s see if he is up later in the year…

      • blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:28 pm

        I could give 2 shits about Kapler, but there are 9 (or more) reasons why this team loses besides what the coaches and manager does. lol.

    • gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:28 pm

      And Blade who is the decision maker when the game is in the balance and you have a lefty in a game and a righty pinch hitter comes in but the manager sticks with the lefty??? Just common sense managing to bring in a righty…blame for this blown lead in the 10th is clearly on Kapler.

      • blade3colorado said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:29 pm

        Okay. lqtm

  55. Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:37 pm

    The manager isn’t an idiot. At least, he shouldn’t be. He has the pulse of his team, he’s fucking there all the time. If a guy is gassed you don’t just keep running him out there. Period. Would he get questioned if he brought someone else in to close? Well, if the guy fucked up he would. But that’s why you get paid to make these decisions. I would at least respect him a little more if he managed with SOME gut decisions. Fuck the book the book is a joke, anyone can read a book. But if you have a closer who was managed carefully last year and this year he has been successful but you are overusing him don’t you think, as the fucking manager, you’d consider not ridiing him so hard? I mean what are we talking about here, this is basic stuff.

  56. Flavor said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:41 pm

    Also, I hated Bass Baldy. There, it’s all out of my system now. LOL

    • xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 8:54 pm

      McGee had two days rest didn’t he? And Bass Baldy is a great guy, much maligned over one challenge. He was wrong, in that moment, that’s true. But have you never erred? Have you never dug a hole you couldn’t get out of without help?

      Back to the movie.

      • djloo27 said, on April 17, 2021 at 9:26 pm

    • gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 9:06 pm

      Exact same thing the Rays manager did with Snell in the Series last year. The analytics said pull Snell but all of us who watched 40 plus years of playoff baseballs and world series the gut said to keep Snell in there….but noooooo…

  57. gianthead said, on April 17, 2021 at 9:21 pm

    McGee threw 34 fastballs and just 2 sliders that inning…so that has got to change if he is going to be consistently reliable as a closer..

    • Carstie Clausen said, on April 17, 2021 at 9:53 pm

      In that fatal inning McGee grooved a couple of 4-seamers right down the pike. I think he was still a bit worn out from consistent and constant use. Those two pitches put the ducks on the pond. Also I noticed that the variations in degrees of fall-off had themselves fallen off considerably from recent outings. It may have been okay to run Jake out there to start the inning, but with prior notice that he would have a short leash because he had appeared so frequently of late and that he would need to prevent that leadoff man from reaching base.

      Inducing an infield pop-up may have been the correct tactic on the leadoff guy…might have required him to mix up his pitches more than 90+ percent 4-seamers to engender a pop-up. With that guy on second and one out, then he could have gone back to some maximum-break F.B.’s. If the second batter managed to get on then major sinking action would have had a reasonable chance of a GDP to end the game.

  58. willedav said, on April 17, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    Dogs beat Pads again, 2-0 shutout as Kershaw outduels Darvish. Tatis Jr. 0-4 3 Ks. 1-10 in series with 5 Ks and costly error. 1 hit was a HR, but Pads getting shoved around like kid brother. Yard looked pretty full last night, though not a lot of masks.

    • willedav said, on April 17, 2021 at 9:42 pm

      attendance for both games listed as 15 thou, which I guess is max allowed.

      • willedav said, on April 17, 2021 at 9:43 pm

        night games in middle of week at Stick, could have counted everyone 2 or 3 times and not gotten that many.

  59. James said, on April 17, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    Wow, it was a good evening to host our first post-COVID dinner party. The food and booze were splendid.

  60. djloo27 said, on April 17, 2021 at 9:56 pm

    Rispoli got bounced off Derby contender RYW by Rosario.
    Now that’s a rough game…

    • James said, on April 17, 2021 at 10:05 pm

      You really haven’t seen “California Split”? I refuse to believe it.

  61. James said, on April 17, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    There’s an excellent chance that Bass Baldy is far better at playing bass than any of us were or are at our respective professions. His baseball musings, however, were a little like watching Robert DeNiro throwing in “Bang the Drum Slowly.”

    • xoot said, on April 17, 2021 at 10:43 pm

      That’s true, but it still doesn’t address my main point. He’s a good guy who made some minor mistakes.

      • James said, on April 17, 2021 at 10:52 pm

        I wasn’t actually directly responding to what you posted Xoot. I just quickly skimmed the many comments.

  62. James said, on April 17, 2021 at 10:37 pm

    Before tonight’s game, McGee had pitched 7.1 allowing one hit. Now if Kap were half as smart as I am, he would have known that shit was not going to last another night, especially in Miami. He would have brought in Doval to close. If Doval saves the game, Kap is a total fucking savant. If he blows it, he defiantly explains to the assembled bas peuplé that the exact same thing would have happened if he’d gone with McGee. Simple.

  63. unca_chuck said, on April 17, 2021 at 10:52 pm

    Just watched Rollerball. Fucking awesome movie. What a shitty sports day. My niece’s son who plays catcher for UC Davis, was beating Fullerton 1-0 with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th. The senior pitcher was pulled by the coach after he gave up a base hit. The next guy gave up a walk and a double. Game over. Same coach who, yesterday had his best hitter bunt with a runner on 1st and one out. They were down 7-0 in the 5th inning. 2 innings later, the same guy hit a 3 run homer. THe program isn’t doing that well, so it’s not like they were fighting to move on in the playoffs, but apparently this coach has been making bad decisions all down the line.

    Then the Giants double-crashed. Then the Warriors blew the Celtics game.

    Nice day at the beach tho. Got some deep fried artichoke hearts in Castroville.

    • James said, on April 17, 2021 at 10:57 pm

      Had asparagus from a friend’s El Cerrito backyard tonight. Wanted it to be better than the farmers market stuff, but it didn’t quite get there. Still, impressive they can grow it at all.

  64. unca_chuck said, on April 17, 2021 at 11:00 pm

    I’m with James on this one. McGee hadn’t pitched since Wednesday. He left shit over the plate.

    Looking at the saves leaderboard, everyone is around 6 to 9 innings. It’s not like we are overusing him.

    He grooved shit with an 0-2 count. He was trying to throw high and left shit over the middle.

    If he’s tired now, what will he be in July?


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