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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 3, 2021

Ok I’ve been meaning to get this out of the way, here goes:

Buster Posey: man, was I wrong about him being done. I forget how many bombs I said he’d hit this year but it was definitely in the low single digits. He’s already got 7 and he looks like his old self. Easy Comeback Player of the Year winner for the NL–a nice nod for someone I said was “totally done.”

Kevin Gausman: ok, The Giants were his FORTH team. The Braves literally just cut his ass mid season in ’19. And that winter the Reds were like “nah we good.” So I don’t feel to guilty about not buying into this guy and/or mocking the 19 million 1 year deal he got. Boy, has he proved me wrong. He’s on Cy Young pace (if you consider the pace a level below what deGrom is doing.

The Grave Duggar: I was always in on him for the epic nickname and I had hoped his *new swing* would give him enough to get him late bloomer status at the MLB level. Sadly, the dream is just about over but I’m afraid to wake up! People that don’t believe in him end up 6 feet deep so now I gotta start worrying just like Kat, Blade, Chuck and WillieD…….

The starting pitchers: In Daniel’s Playing Pepper article I said this would be the most concerning thing for the team this year. LOL. It’s been, by far, the most reliable and most productive part of our team this year.

There were some things I hit on like The Sock Man and how terrible our offense would be. But that is dwarfed by the sea of wrongness washing over the sands of this thread……

Now, onward….

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  1. willedav said, on May 3, 2021 at 6:44 am

    It is unfortunate D first speed guys like Duggar are dying breed; these are kind of guys i always liked but who don’t have much chance nowadays given HR craze and how many pitchers teams carry. Might work out better with another team. Stros have similar player in Myles Straw, and on F/G they talked to him. He said Stros coaches have told him to be more aggressive earlier in count to avoid having to hit pitchers pitch behind in count.

    Gausman is still in small sample size area, as are the other SPs, and health a big factor there. Giving up bombs at higher rate, so one bad pitch can cost him a game.

    Tauchman looks like real deal in CF in first weekend, but…unlikely to hit at the O anywhere near power he did at Yankee stadium 2019. If he can hit LHP that would be big assist, as most of the LHs for SF are struggling big time. That bomb he hit yesterday might have been no more than double off high wall at home.
    Charlie Blackmon said the O is toughest park to hit in all of baseball, especially with wind at night.

    Posey is certainly pleasant surprise, but again we’re only a month in. As has been mentioned by others, old guys (and SF is oldest team in league) already seem injury prone. What will they look like by July/August?

    • unca_chuck said, on May 3, 2021 at 7:16 am

      If he could hit for average, GraveDuggar would stick around.

      I’m more concerned about the stupid injuries. This is baseball. We were all doing much crazier shit that baseball and not pulling muscles. Why the fuck can’t these guys stay on the field?

      • James said, on May 3, 2021 at 7:58 am

        Because Gabe Kapler always has to be doing *something* wrong?

      • unca_chuck said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:16 am

        Zip it, skippy. It’s the trainers and the players themselves who are supposed to be game-ready to play. It’s baffling to me that these guy who get paid millions regularly pull muscles all the time.

        It isn’t that hard to loosen up and stretch for baseball. Yes, hitting a baseball is very very hard. But getting ready for the main baseball activity of standing around for 3 hours isn’t that fucking hard. Basketball, soccer, football, hockey, motocross, skiing, any number of sports are much more strenuous than baseball, yet these guys pull hammies, groins, obliques, etc. At least we do.

      • James said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:43 am

        Not sure anyone is to blame. It’s certainly frustrating, but the injuries at least give Flavor one prediction victory. I’ll zip it now.

  2. gianthead said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:16 am

    Couple weeks ago I noted in response to a question about how we feel about this team and our staying power that my faith was and is based on whether I am willing to buy the baseball package. Couple weeks ago I did not even consider it and thought this team with struggling offense, Posey hitting far past expectations and out-performing vet starting pitchers (that may be the understatement of the decade) was a mirage.

    Now I am wondering maybe the second half package….

    • gianthead said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:19 am

      Also screws up my wish to trade everything and the kitchen sink by trade deadline….

    • Bozo said, on May 3, 2021 at 12:56 pm

      I reupped this year. Although there have been a few games where I just went to bed at 1AM. Talk about taking the seventh inning stretch to a whole new level.

  3. willedav said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:20 am

    Pads had 15 thou there for each game of the series. They are up here for 3 on the weekend, and I hope fans start to show up. giants are playing well and there are only 8 home games entire month btw road trips. Dogs are in for 3 on weekend of May 21-23 too. Be nice to have yard more full than 5-7 thou they’ve been getting.

    • gianthead said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:53 am

      What are the current crowd limits. My oldest and three of his buddies are doing a CA baseball tour in June and they cant get tickets yet. Starting in SD, Anaheim, Flodger Stadium, the Oracle on a Monday night, staying the night right by stadium I think in a Marriott at a surprisingly reasonable price (any Flappers do the same? Seems like a great way to catch a couple of games) and then Oakland the next night before a red eye flight out of SFO.

      • alleykat69 said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:09 am

        GH… I’ve heard the park is allowed 22% of crowd capacity at this time which comes out to 8,900 fans, hope this helps your son and his road warrior buddies trip.

      • James said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:54 am

        Dodgers Tix aren’t available yet for the May 27th series in LA, either. I wonder if they are hoping for a ramp up in capacity.

    • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 11:32 am

      My son snagged tickets in the fully vaxed club level section for one game vs the bums. Attendance will rise with the tide.

  4. gianthead said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:49 am

    I have been trying to listen to more of Giants radio coverage on Sirius/XM and as someone who as a kid would have listened to 130-140 games a year on KNBR, baseball at this stage in life especially on the east coast for late night games eally hard to listen at length. Picking up a book is hard to focus on with a game on in the background…what I do is check in on games and go back and listen to Jon Miller or Fleming make the calls on scoring plays or final outs.

    • djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 10:04 am

      Imagine the intense pressure of having to post a dancing gay man or a door slamming puppet at 2:00 AM?
      Quit complaining!

      • willedav said, on May 3, 2021 at 10:19 am

        Think you’re right about Dubon at SS too. that play he made to his left that Flores couldn’t get to was fantastic.

      • djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 10:34 am

        Think he’s the “hair” apparent to Craw?

      • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 11:05 am

        Speed grace good glove good arm and starting to hit. Yet..,.

      • djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 11:33 am

        He’s also got a little temper.
        I hear him cursing all the time when he’s upset at he plate.
        Not a bad thing…

  5. willedav said, on May 3, 2021 at 10:08 am

    I do think injuries are up across board, for every team. For pitchers it’s unreal how many guys are hurt. Dogs have 4-5 guys on IL and are using openers. Crawford took a Darvish fastball in leg…at least he wasn’t hurt playing a video game.

  6. alleykat69 said, on May 3, 2021 at 10:33 am

    You think GM’s would of ever thought of adding video game 🎮 playing as part of signing big league players contracts as an endangered in are off-season sport?And also no contact allowed at anytime with ex big league er Jeremy Affeldt for the health of both..

    • unca_chuck said, on May 3, 2021 at 10:37 am

      Forget who the pitcher was but he strained his middle finger on his pitching hand repeatedly opening a bag of sunflower seeds. Baseball is such a dangerous sport.

  7. zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    K&K made a comment about there being more masks in the dugouts than in the stands at San Diego. The San Diego fans have a different mind-set than the Bay Area fans about the situation. The Bay Area is leading the entire nation in Covid-19 vaccine percentage rate. That doesn’t mean fans will start pouring into the Giants’ ballpark soon. It just means the Bay Area takes the virus more intensely seriously than a lot of other parts of the nation.

    • Bozo said, on May 3, 2021 at 1:03 pm

      It didn’t look like there were very many masks on in the dugout yesterday. At one point, even Kapler was without one.

      • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 1:47 pm

        Giants are close to the 85% vax threshold that cancels many restrictions. Beat tweets say it’s within ten days or something. I guess that’s double shot vax. So apparently everyone who’s gonna get jabbed has been hit at least once. And they are outdoors.

  8. alleykat69 said, on May 3, 2021 at 12:12 pm

    Here’s some classic bonehead freak accidents:
    1) John Smoltz- Once burned his chest while ironing shirt while wearing it..
    2)Steve Sparks- Dislocated Shoulder attempting to rip up phonebooks.
    3) Clint Barnes- Broken Collarbone carrying deer meat upstairs.
    4)Mark Smith-Broken hand sticking it into air conditioner to see why it didn’t work.
    5)Matt Wise-Cut his middle finger on a pair of salad tongs..
    6) Glenallen Hill- Tumbled out of bed and crashed into a glass table while having a nightmare about being covered in spiders.He suffered cuts and blood loss from the broken glass table..

    • Winder said, on May 3, 2021 at 1:56 pm

      Thanks for the kat. Makes me feel not quite so stupid with some of the stuff I did as a kid.

  9. chipower9 said, on May 3, 2021 at 1:57 pm

    Agree on Posey, Flav. I doubt I had him hitting more than five jacks. Definitely a candidate for comeback player if he keeps playing at this clip.

    Was great to get the getaway day win yesterday. If you’re going to win only one in a three game series, make it the getaway game. Nice win.

  10. snarkk said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:00 pm

    Like BF, I’ve been on Posey’s case for years of his decline.
    So, his Lazarus rise with the bat this first month of the season is welcome and surprising, indeed.
    But, I condition my modified mea culpa by noting my repeated suspicion over the years that he and the Giants were hiding serious physical problems — either knock on effects of the broken leg/ankle or something else they would not reveal. Sure enough, a couple of years ago they suddenly revealed his hip problem — and acted as if everyone knew all along, which was utter bulldust. Post surgery and a year of not playing and doing rehab appear to have done the trick to release his lower body so he has found something of his previous power stroke. If he keeps this up, he’ll clearly be Comeback Player. They still treat him as though he’s made of Murano glass, so count me somewhat skeptical of whether he can keep this up season long…

  11. chipower9 said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:24 pm

    Well Fuck! Looks like tonight’s game is postponed due to inclement weather.

    • unca_chuck said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:30 pm


    • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:38 pm

      Sky bolts?

      • chipower9 said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:46 pm


    • snarkk said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:52 pm

      On a nice day, has anyone ever said “Oh boy, this is really “clement” weather”?…

  12. unca_chuck said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:26 pm

    Affeldt: a) Cut hand trying to pry frozen hamburger patties apart
    b) Tore knee up wrestling with his 4 year old kid

    Chris Brown slept on his eye wrong.

  13. unca_chuck said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:29 pm

    Oh man, the litany of injuries as a kid is nuts.

    • djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:43 pm

      Got hip checked through a plate glass store window in April 1970 during lunch hour…

    • unca_chuck said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:52 pm

      12 stitches on my tongue after nearly biting it off playing frisbee (yes, they were invented way back when), tripping over a curb and landing on my chin.

      8 stitches in my left eyelid playing backyard football, being tackled ,and landing face-first on a small boulder.

  14. Flavor said, on May 3, 2021 at 2:45 pm

    big blow to them

  15. willedav said, on May 3, 2021 at 3:02 pm

    Double header tomorrow, 2 x 7, Sanchez and Wood for SF. Shea tweets Kapler expects LaStella to the IL.

  16. zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 4:32 pm

    Matt Cain- cut his pitching hand while making a sandwich.

    Me- needed 7 stitches in my arm as a kid because I cut my arm working on basketball moves INSIDE the house.

    • zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 4:36 pm

      Me- 6 stitches in the mouth after getting hit in the mouth by a baseball while pitching too close to the batters in a pick-up game when I was a kid.
      Kids playing pick-up baseball games doesn’t even exist anymore.

      • Winder said, on May 3, 2021 at 4:44 pm

        I used to take my bat ball and glove to the school yard baseball diamond and wait for things to happen. Mostly softball games but as a kid i was ok with that too.

      • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 5:02 pm

        Before the last home game of 2001, about five sons of giants players and coaches played a pick up game in CF. Bonds’s son was the oldest. Baker’s son the smallest. They had on unis tailored to fit. Someone eventually called them back to the dugout as the Giants and bums began to emerge for warmup.

  17. xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 4:49 pm

    Knocked unconscious by LD, age 8, while playing hardball with airmen on an AFB in Albuquerque. They were really relieved when I came to.

  18. alleykat69 said, on May 3, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    Face planted on the back seat missing the 1st step up in his impala getting in drunk at the beach on Mickey’s Big Mouths.Such a gnarly cheap beer but lethal, like Schlitz Malt Liquor and several others,8 stitches on the lip for my stupidity.

    • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 7:01 pm

      Twin’s a.m. maintenance drink, during his drinking days, was Mickey’s. Iirc. I liked the big top. You weren’t likely to cut a finger closing that bottle.

  19. Macdog said, on May 3, 2021 at 6:11 pm

    Watching Mets-Cards, it’s weird seeing the two long-time nemeses Goldy and Arenado playing on the same team.

  20. Winder said, on May 3, 2021 at 6:59 pm

    Flaming arrows, caught the school on fire.

    • Winder said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:10 pm

      But we put it out in about 2 minutes.

  21. Irish Kevin said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:03 pm

    What the….when did they decide double headers were only 7 innings? Damn. Those two other inning might just be a come back, I don’t care who gets the come back. Go 9 innings. How fucked up has baseball become

    • Winder said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:09 pm

      I agree that is crazy. That is not real baseball.

    • djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:16 pm

      It’s completely idiotic and there’s no legitimate explanation for it.
      The statement it makes is that the game sucks, so we we’ll shorten it for you to lessen your suffering.
      Do they realize that fans can go home or turn off the game whenever they want?
      Why not put in a mercy rule while their at it?
      Maybe fans can get lucky and the game will be over in 2 innings…

      • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:29 pm

        The players approved this … change.

      • djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:36 pm

        Well I’m sure 9-5ers would approve a 32 hour work week if they were getting the same pay…

      • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:46 pm

        Fuckin lazy commie players.

    • blade3colorado said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:33 pm

      I’m this close “” to saying fuck you MLB and your goofy rules. Last week, forgot which game it was, but they did this little league 7 inning bullshit with a game and it was part of a 6 or 7 game Saturday slate for a “classic” style DraftKings tournament (Flav and Joe know what I am talking about). In any event, I had a couple of players selected from teams that were going to play 7 innings . . . and I had that “Eureka” moment were I realized if I select any of these dumb shits for my tournament team I would be short changing myself at least 2 at bats for each player I selected. Fuck that shit.

      Same deal with the Giants playing their little league, bullshit, 7 inning baseball games tomorrow. What the hell is going on with this Commissioner? Does he want to destroy baseball? Is there some analytic asshole he’s hired that tells him he will make (fill in the amount) money with these piss ant rules? Ted Williams must be turning over in his grave . . . oh wait, is he still in a freezer?

      • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:49 pm

        Ted’s head just turned and said who gives a shit about gamblers. Swear to gawd. Don’t attack the messenger.

  22. willedav said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:34 pm

    Shea said the Giants and Kapler still figure LaStella will have to go on IL. However, they have 5 man taxi squad in Denver that includes Vosler, Thairo Estrada and Bart (plus 2 pitchers). Plus for one of the games in the DH they are allowed to have 27 players.

  23. Macdog said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    I was about 10, needed stitches around the eyelash after I was the caboose in a sled train that derailed and one of sled blades caught me above the eye.

  24. djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:46 pm

    Mets just fired hitting coach, Chili Davis…

  25. zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:49 pm

    “Ted Williams must be turning over in his grave . . . oh wait, is he still in a freezer?”

    His headless body would have to rotate in its vat of frozen nitrogen. No word on what his head, in its separate vat, would do.
    Yes, he was decapitated by the cryogenic facility. It’s common practice, I guess, for some reason.

    • zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:52 pm

      Ted could be a cranky difficult person, but he deserved better than that.

      • djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:55 pm

        Being roasted like a marshmallow is better?
        At least he’s got a shot at a comeback…

      • zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:55 pm

        He gave up 5 baseball seasons of his prime to serve in the military.
        His son got the elderly and confused Ted to sign the cryogenic papers. His son has since passed away, and is frozen, too.

      • zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:00 pm

        No frozen person will ever be revived. The damage from the freezing is massive.

      • zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:01 pm

        A dead cryogenically frozen person, I mean.

      • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:05 pm

        That’s why it’s so funny. Man it must be exhausting to lug your posts down to the curb.

    • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:59 pm

      That’s not true. At one point the head was on display on a stand. There’s a famous account of the custodians smashing the base with a hammer to knock it off the frozen noggin.

  26. zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:51 pm

    The shortened double-headers and shortened extra-innings were rationalized as being more “Covid safe.”
    That’s the reason they gave.

  27. xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 8:56 pm

    Most of these injury tales really sound like horrific disasters dodged by sheer luck with minimal damage. Now there’s a thread.

  28. zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:05 pm

    Isn’t Walt Disney frozen, too? Do family members go to the facility on Memorial Day?

    • djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:13 pm

      Yes. It’s hard on them…

  29. zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:10 pm

    Ted’s other children were mortified about his being frozen, and took the situation to court. They lost because the son had that signature, although Ted probably had no idea what he was signing.

    • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:36 pm

      Mortified. Are you fucking kidding?

      • zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:37 pm

        Sorry to have triggered you yet again.

      • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:43 pm

        Born to lose.

      • zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:45 pm

        Yeah, I don’t know what that means, or care to know.

      • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:49 pm

      • djloo27 said, on May 3, 2021 at 10:08 pm

        Easy to be a condescending jerk now that you don’t have to hide from Twin anymore, isn’t it?

  30. zumiee said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:24 pm

    Well, what do you know.
    “Despite the persisting rumors, Walt Disney was not frozen. After his death in 1966, Walt was interred at Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, California.”

    • xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 9:38 pm

      Dumbo vive, though.

  31. unca_chuck said, on May 3, 2021 at 10:16 pm

    Luckiest one was falling backwards into the basement of a burnt-down house in the woodside hills. Turns out the top step of the stairway I failed to notice the floor behind it was gone. Luckily i was a few beers in, so as I was falling backwards I though, “pick your head up”. I landed flat on my back about 12′ down into a pile of broken bottles, and miscellaneous garbage. As my friends were running down the stairs to check on me, I realized I wasn’t hurt. As I got up I noticed 7 or 8 pieces of rebar sticking up about 2′ out of the ground all around me.

  32. xoot said, on May 3, 2021 at 10:38 pm

    When twin and i really got into it he modified my posts. Cowardly crap. It’s easy to win when you’re the boss. It’s vilifying to fight the boss , though. And his minions. For some reason twin gave up on his despot pose and quit this blog. He spent a good four years at the end elsewhere. Change of meds maybe.

    Thanks for the clip.

    • willedav said, on May 4, 2021 at 7:09 am

      He was at Merc, when Baggs ran blog over there iirc, then other bloggers (ala BF) set up their own version after that was shut down. It was good read too and had some other old guys from Splash days. The San Jose Merc used to have great HS sports coverage too–football and b-ball scores from outside area too like East Bay. Now they have zip.
      Things that happened to some of y’all in younger days, yikes.

  33. willedav said, on May 4, 2021 at 7:11 am

    Btw, Kapler for publication anyway, is not unhappy to play 14 innings instead of 18 in same day at Coors, where pitching staffs go to ruin rather easily.

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