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For His Next Trick….

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 16, 2021

Theoretically the bullpen should be the easiest thing to fix. Lots of guys can’t be starters but most of those guys can still throw gas for an inning. Zaidi has been an absolute magician composing this team. I can’t believe he would let something like this confound him. He’s an easy guy to have faith in, let’s let him work his magic.

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  1. Flavor said, on May 16, 2021 at 7:32 am

    he survives, to dig another grave.

  2. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 7:36 am

    Moronta’s still down/out?

  3. willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 7:53 am

    As to be expected Z strikes out on number of fringe acquisitions. Wade Jr is in that category (never understood why he was a Giant), along with Wisler (unused in while thankfully) Vosler (brief time up showed zip), Bolt yada yada. Despite multiple injuries to IF Estrada is still in Sac, and Casali is an awful hitter.

    Pen way more complicated and they’ve already shuffled guys in/out like Santos who had all too brief effective innings. Jarlin Garcia was one of best guys yesterday. Just way harder to evaluate and I’ll stick to my theory–most of them have ahard to recognize sell by date and only have so many effective innings in them.

    • James said, on May 16, 2021 at 8:20 am

      But then they get repackaged and wind up pitching effectively again elsewhere. Because of the small number of innings they throw, it’s usually hard to judge in advance how run of the mill BP arms will perform for your team.

  4. willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 7:59 am

    As Zum said last night, was a helluva interesting game vs. rebuild mode Pirates. Giants hit 3 bombs and had 3 OF assists–when has that happened before? Tauchman to Crawford to Casali play was excellent by all 3, beautiful to watch unfold. Couple other nice plays made on IF too by Longoria Crawford Dubon–even Wilmet and Cueto got in on the one he got nicked at 1b that had to be overturned into an out.

    I don’t ever watch any postgame stuff, but Kap speak makes about as much sense as Boch speak used to. It’s just how mgrs nowadays roll.

  5. willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 8:20 am

    Solano last night 3-3 with double in rehab start for Sac, batting 1.000 as they routed Dogs AAA club. Thairo 3 more hits double and HR (#3) batting .395. Beede 3 shutout innings 1 hit 4 Ks. Kazmir relieved him—this is who is at Sac. Webb/opener role for one for them?
    Ramos 0-5 as Richmond lost. T Beck Stanford guy (from Braves) started and took L, 4 innings 6 hits 4 runs and bomb.

  6. Winder said, on May 16, 2021 at 8:24 am

    It’s a long season and all teams go through what we did the last two nights. Just as winning is habit forming so is losing. We need to take this one today. There is no give up in this team just some mistakes.

  7. willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 8:35 am

    As James said it’s really hard to evaluate guys out of pen based on limited innings. McGee worked 20 pretty decent innings for Dogs last season after they picked him up when Rockies released him, but they let him walk. Dogs pen has major issues this season too.
    Dogs had Watson for part of a year before allowing him to walk too, when he signed with SF and lasted 3 seasons. Just such a crapshoot, and pitching coach/other players can make such a difference. Pitchers talk to each other, and sometimes one guy helps another find a grip on a pitch that works for him.

  8. James said, on May 16, 2021 at 8:46 am

    We got to see Ruf get .333 of his career OF assists in the span of .002 of his total OF innings.

  9. James said, on May 16, 2021 at 9:02 am

    I was cursing Doval yesterday, this morning I realized that first hit he gave up was a pop fly into RF that Yaz may or may not have made a play on. We are singing his praises without that bit of shitty luck. Stallings hit the ball on the ground reaching for a pitch, a result you’d take most of the time.There are also more than a few examples of successful one-pitch relievers. The Pirates’ closer is a right-handed version of McGee. Also there’s this

    https://tht.fangraphs.com/why-are-sliders-so-hard-to-hit/

    • willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 10:08 am

      Interesting, thanks. One of the commenters does make a good point re: same handedness. romo’s frisbee was death of RHs, but he had harder time locating it to LHs. As you said, Doval had bad luck to get burned by RH pop fly into no man’s land. also unfortunate he hit a guy when the back foot slider actually did just that.

  10. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 9:47 am

    Well, whatever our mojo is with SPs it certainly isn’t translating to our relievers.

    But we seem to have nothing but fastball/slider relievers. And they are hanging sliders too much. They are easy to hit when they are up in the zone despite the article. The guys pounding our relievers apparently haven’t read that.

    So James, your advice is to keep running them out there to figure their shit out? You want to see McGaaaaaah out there again in the 9th?

  11. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 10:04 am

    Speaking of stats, 4 HRs in 17.1 innings for McGaaaaaaah.

    10 saves, 3 blown saves in 19 appearances.

    Doval is an even bigger mess.

    4 HRs in 9 innings.

  12. willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 10:48 am

    Less the pitches than command of them by individual. Wood doesn’t throw harder than 92, but where he puts sinker slider and change is fantastic and he rarely gets any pitch hit very hard. others struggle with it game to game. Just baseball and what makes it fascinating.

  13. Winder said, on May 16, 2021 at 11:43 am

    Looks like Pittsburg is doing to us like we have been doing to everyone else.

    • James said, on May 16, 2021 at 11:48 am

      Yeah, but it is not their MO. This is a terrible team having a Billy Hamilton weekend. It is agonizing to watch.

      • Winder said, on May 16, 2021 at 12:16 pm

        It is hard to watch.

  14. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 11:52 am

    Fuck. He’s safe

  15. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 11:53 am

    Lucky

  16. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 11:54 am

    Nice comeback there.

  17. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 11:54 am

    Picked a good time to stop whacking.

  18. James said, on May 16, 2021 at 11:59 am

    Chuck, I’ve said before I’d have more confidence in McGee, if his fastball was consistently at 95+. He has to be able to go back to back games with his best velocity. I think he has a role . . . .

    Dunno, swap ’em out, or let the current crew get the bad innings out of their systems. Probably a coin toss, but some new faces would be welcome.

    • alleykat69 said, on May 16, 2021 at 12:47 pm

      James.. McGee is just not showing 95 consistently anymore and when a one trick pony and hitters laying off his high fastball now and he has to lower it to throw a strike the hitters are teeing off on him. They really need to just had the closing gig to Rodgers who’s far more effective.They should also switch roles with Barager and McGee with Barager pitching the 8th and McGee are Garcia the 7th. Hell even Littell has looked good enough to move into a better slot..

  19. alleykat69 said, on May 16, 2021 at 12:25 pm

    Dubon has really flashed the leather( that running catch last night in the outfield sprinting all out from 2nd was one of the best I’ve ever seen) and today the running grab against before hitting the netting , super as well along with that fake throw in the rundown and nailing the runner at 3rd.
    I didn’t think he looked right swinging the bat on his last time up, thinking he jammed that left wrist on the catch, probably doesn’t want to say anything since were out of 2nd basemen’s in this revolving door of banged up players..

  20. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 12:46 pm

    And here we go

  21. alleykat69 said, on May 16, 2021 at 12:54 pm

    Geez speaking of one pitch pony here comes Mr.SLIDER in next..
    Wishler hasn’t pitched in awhile, I get u have to use your pen but…

  22. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 12:58 pm

    Oh boy. The groove machine. Wisling past the graveduggar.

  23. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 12:58 pm

    The tryouts continue.

  24. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:00 pm

    DOWN!

  25. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:00 pm

    Fuck. Down already

  26. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    Jesus. Posey is insane. He should tell him to throw them in the diet

  27. alleykat69 said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    If they don’t hand the ball to Rodgers in the 9th I’m going to be rally pissed 😡

  28. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    Dirt

  29. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:02 pm

    That was a good pitch. 9 pitches in.

  30. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:04 pm

    Hey. I’ll take it. Way too many pitches up rho

  31. Macdog said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:06 pm

    Big Yaz bomb!

  32. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:06 pm

    Just what we needed

  33. James said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:06 pm

    Finally!!

  34. alleykat69 said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:07 pm

    Just what the doctor ordered!
    Yaz going yard!!!

  35. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:15 pm

    Fuuuuuuck

  36. Macdog said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:17 pm

    My god, I almost had a heart attack when Rogers threw to 2nd.

  37. Macdog said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:19 pm

    Down goes Frazier (finally), Giants win!

  38. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:20 pm

    Well a split isn’t terrible. But. . .

  39. alleykat69 said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:21 pm

    Big Win going into Cincinnati with some momentum!
    Man they should of won them all, but that’s baseball unfortunately..

  40. willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:21 pm

    Kinda funny to hear Estes say, “Not sure Dickerson would have caught that” on Tauchman grab. Rogers finishes them off.

    • zumiee said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:22 pm

  41. James said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:23 pm

    First place 40 games in.

  42. Macdog said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:25 pm

    Tough day for Pittsburgh fans.

  43. willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:26 pm

    Chuck said “Dirt” earlier after mistype…drove by Campbell Little League park yesterday AM and it was rolling with live action. Dirt’s son used to play there, so hope he still is if family is still in area.
    Plus I’m reading funny history of 1912 World Series by Mike Vaccaro btw Red Sox and J McGraw’s NY Giants, and Dirt used to post those old guy pics from Dead Ball era.

    • zumiee said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:35 pm

      I read that one! Great book!

  44. zumiee said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:27 pm

    Congrats to Curry for winning the NBA scoring title. Another great accomplishment in his Hall of Fame career.

    • Macdog said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:28 pm

      Only other player to win scoring title age 33+ is Jordan.

  45. alleykat69 said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:37 pm

    Yeah that was a funny comment by Estes Willied.
    No way in hell does Dickerson make that catch..
    Hell of a game by Dubon and that fake play to nail the runner at 3rd was incredible.
    Of course if he doesn’t pull it off are throws it away he would of been roasted, Flemm was waiting for it during the review to be overturned so he could lay into him it seemed..

    • zumiee said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:44 pm

      Estes grew on me as the series went on. I like how he uses some well-placed stats during the broadcast.

      • alleykat69 said, on May 16, 2021 at 2:00 pm

        Yeah I like Estes, he’s very articulate and knowledgeable compared to a dry/boring and uninspiring Lopez..

  46. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:41 pm

    Pretty funny. Getting the Aussie feed for the Warriors game

  47. Winder said, on May 16, 2021 at 1:56 pm

    Glad we got outa there with a split. Looks like the Pirates are one of those teams that play us good.

  48. alleykat69 said, on May 16, 2021 at 2:19 pm

    The latest diamond in the rough signing by Zman is signing Alex Wood to a 1year deal back in January. He’s now 5-0 with an ERA of 1.75 and should be an Allstar if he keeps this amazing pace going, what a steal..

    • zumiee said, on May 16, 2021 at 2:55 pm

      He works quickly, throws a lot of strikes, has good stuff. He was a perfect pitcher for “getaway day.”

  49. mrsprtdude said, on May 16, 2021 at 3:26 pm

    Big win. Being swept by Pitt would be bad.

    Curry joined an elite group…. Jordan Chamberlain Abdul-Jabbar and now Curry as only 4 to have multiple scoring titles, MVP’s, and championships. Nice group to be part of

    • willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 4:23 pm

      mm elite indeed. Tamika Catchings went into HOF. Her Dad Harvey played for Neliie in 80s for Milwaukee on 50 win teams that Celts (Bird etc.) and Jabbar’s Lakers used to dominate. Right place, wrong time.

    • unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 7:28 pm

      We won 2.

  50. willedav said, on May 16, 2021 at 4:19 pm

    Arenado strikes again. 3rd bomb of weekend in Petco, 9th of year 2-0 Cards in first inning. Just glad he’s doing it to somebody else.

    • Macdog said, on May 16, 2021 at 4:38 pm

      It’d be nice if Arenado hits HR and Cards actually win a game there. Also good to see Fish get one in L.A,

  51. zumiee said, on May 16, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    ESPN, of course, interrupting the flow of the game for stupid pointless in-game interviews. Why in the world do they think viewers want these?

    • zumiee said, on May 16, 2021 at 5:22 pm

      The number of interesting things said in in-game interviews:

  52. Flavor said, on May 16, 2021 at 7:01 pm

    i didn’t see this, what a sick play

  53. unca_chuck said, on May 16, 2021 at 7:29 pm

    Yep. that was the play of the game. Came inside just in time to see that,


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