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Finish The First Half Strong

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 10, 2021

Lots of bombs, lots of $$$ lost to Chris Reich on the golf course, and another win. Sorry for the short thread but I gotta get out of the house, 36 holes today, not sure if my body is ready for that.

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  1. willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 8:49 am

    Before Giants game I turned on mlb.tv showing Astros-Yanks. Stros were in field and pitching, and I noticed orange top unis and wondered who it was. They looked more like Giants on Friday than real Giants did.

  2. djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 9:39 am

    Do you walk the course, Flavor?
    Do you guzzle cold ones while you’re playing?

  3. gianthead said, on July 10, 2021 at 9:58 am

    Flav goes big. Jumps right in for 36…

  4. gianthead said, on July 10, 2021 at 10:30 am

    My farm report…went to see the Richmond Squirrels at the Bowie Baysox in Maryland to see Heliot. My older kid got his autograph along with Will Wilson (I did not realize that Wilson just joined Richmond) and Hjelle.

    Heliot went deep in first at bat, a high shot over left center clearing 30 foot fence. He added two rbi singles and a stolen base. I was surprised they had him playing CF and he is definitely fleet footed enough to cover. He made a great play coming well past the gap in left center calling off the left fielder for a back-hander that was way over. Was impressed. Out of the 5-6 times we have seen AA ball with our farm teams in Richmond and the old CT team, Heliot is easily the best looking hitting prospect we have seen. He is stockier than what I was expecting and closest thing Incan compare him to was Christian Arroyo when we saw him but thicker than Arroyo at that time. Arroyo now seems to have put on a lot of weight. I will be shocked if he does not go to AAA soon and then up with the big club by Sept when rosters expand.

    But the person that blew me away was the starter who I had never heard of Caleb Killian who they moved up to Richmond as a 24 year old Texas Tech pitcher and drafted in 2019 who was at A+ Eugene earlier this year. This was his 8th start and second complete game (last night was first game of DH) going 7. Kid has command of the plate and now has 47k on just 6 walks while in Richmond. Super impressive. Met his parents after the game as well. He was born in Anaheim and then they moved in Texas.

    • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 11:06 am

      Great report, GH; thanks!

      • gianthead said, on July 10, 2021 at 12:12 pm

        Thanks and forgot to mention the young catcher who also seems to have just moved up, Brandon Martorano. A UNC product. He crushed one deep center 440-450 feet high off the CF net. Just his fifth game in Richmond and he gunned a base runner. Lot of catchers in the org. As a 23 year old he looks like he could play OF or 1b. Let’s see if his bat develops.

    • Winder said, on July 10, 2021 at 11:15 am

      Nice.

    • xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 12:17 pm

      GH do you have any idea why Flying Squirrel Heliot Ramos, someone we all admired during the televised ST games, tanked so badly in June? May was great; sounds like he’s back on the beam now. (Based on your fine report, btw. Thanks.)

      • gianthead said, on July 10, 2021 at 12:21 pm

        Thanks Xoot. Odd but maybe just him adjusting. We all know AA pitching is probably a set above everywhere else. He has the look of an everyday player down to ignoring autograph requests but a couple of locales who are the type who sit there with all their baseball cards in binders so I made my older kid then ask again and he got it.

    • gianthead said, on July 10, 2021 at 12:17 pm

      The starter Killian was hitting 96-97 and threw with ease. I yelled down to Steve Kline still the pitching coach after the game and said great job with the kid and he said he just sits back and watched and we both laughed. His parents were awesome and seems like great kid. Cool to see them travel from home in Texas to see their son.

      • gianthead said, on July 10, 2021 at 12:17 pm

        And both mom and dad properly attired in Giants gear as I noted to them and not any Angels gear.

      • alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:02 pm

        Yeah super Reporting GH!

    • chipower9 said, on July 10, 2021 at 12:22 pm

      Nice report Head. Thanks!

    • Macdog said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:04 pm

      Excellent report, GH. Damn, I missed the Squirrels when they were in Jersey last month.

  5. chipower9 said, on July 10, 2021 at 11:23 am

    Bart called up and in the line-up. Go Giants!

    1. Austin Slater (R) CF
    2. Wilmer Flores (R) 3B
    3. M. Yastrzemski (L) RF
    4. Darin Ruf (R) 1B
    5. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
    6. B. Crawford (L) SS
    7. Joey Bart (R) C
    8. Thairo Estrada (R) LF
    9. A. DeSclafani (R) P

    • xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 11:28 am

      For a day game! He won’t have to battle that treacherous summer twilight. Let’s see if he can hit.

      • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 12:45 pm

        Good zinger.

  6. gianthead said, on July 10, 2021 at 12:22 pm

    Watching Wisler on mlb channel coming in for the Rays for an inning of work.

  7. alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2021 at 12:26 pm

    Farhan sure knows how to find gems 💎
    In his first full draft he drafted 9 hitters and the lone pitcher he took was Caleb Kilian who looks like a complete steal.He’s 6-0 this year at 2 stops Winder’s area Keizer Salem ( Emeralds) now promoted to the Richmond Secret Squirrels where he 3-0.Kid has been lights out.
    Another pitcher he drafted is Sean Murphy who was a supplementary pick to save cash so they could sign another future stud Lefty Kyle Harrison from DeLasalle (sp)Murphy and Harrison both have been sharp!
    In Farhan we trust along with Holmes and there scouts! They now have the 11th rank farm system in baseball and climbing, what a quick turnaround from the abyss of Sabes/Evans towards their end though they still have some prospects from their tenure left..

    MLB Draft is Sunday the Giants have the 14th pick, they have interest in OF Benny Montgomery and Pitcher Jordan Wicks among others.Roll up the sleeves and do it again Farhan and the team of scouts!!

  8. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    Joey Joey Joey.

  9. zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    I guess it will always amaze me.
    68 degrees in SF at game-time. I live 90 miles away and it’s 102 outside right now, and is supposed to eventually get to 109.

    • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:17 pm

      The coastal mountain range isn’t all THAT high. The Altamont Pass is under a thousand feet elevation. But it’s enough to cause the difference, obviously.

      • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:21 pm

        Regarding the coastal range: “Elevations range from 500 to 2,500 ft (150 to 800 m); some peaks rise to 5,000 ft (1,500 m).”

    • willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:21 pm

      Hear you Zum. It’s high 80s where I am, 40 miles maybe from the O. Where Unc and Snarkk are should be 100 today.
      Yesterday had aircon going for about 10 hours, even after game-Miller and Kruk had jackets on at the yard.

      Parra continues to help Giants, wow.

      • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:24 pm

        It didn’t seem like the sun was in his eyes. He wasn’t reacting like that was an issue.

      • djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:27 pm

        Probably didn’t shag any flies pre-game.
        Bad preparation…

      • xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:29 pm

        73 in Oakland. Best weather in calif

        Good first inning!

  10. djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:25 pm

    Nitpicking, but Ruf shoulda tagged…

  11. mrsprtdude said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:29 pm

    Thanks for the heads up on our minor leaguers GH!!

  12. Macdog said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:29 pm

    Weird but productive inning.

  13. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:44 pm

    Wil goes with the Flo. Nice play, really.

    • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:47 pm

      I’ve criticized his defense, but 3b truly is a tough position. Some rockets get hit over there.

  14. djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:47 pm

    If the Grave Duggar is going down the drain and Slater continues to wallow in the low .200’s, the Giants can’t stand pat. So either bring up Heliot or trade for a a solid veteran like Michael A. Taylor…

    • willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:00 pm

      Funny thing is, Kap loves Slater at leadoff vs. LHP. I looked it up and coming into today he’s hitting .222, 22 for 90. OB is .333 from that spot in order.
      GD never hits leadoff, usually 6th or 7th despite much higher BA and OB. but yes struggling again right how, 1-20. BABIP gods taking back some turf too-think last 10 times he’s put ball in play, 1 hit (line drive offf waino).

  15. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 1:47 pm

    I like the early scoring.
    Always a plus.
    Thanks to Parra for the gift error drop in LF.
    If I were fast and could handle the bat, I’d drop a damn bunt down every time, preferably to Leister’s left side (from the mound). Doesn’t need to be perfect. He won’t throw to first, he’s got the Sax disease. Automatic hits. Then, I’d take huge lead from first, and steal on him. He won’t throw over to first, either. Duggar should be doing that, since Kruk says he knows how to bunt for hits…

  16. djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:07 pm

    50 pitches/6 outs for Lester…

  17. zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:07 pm

    Ruf has a real no-frills swing. Once swift move. And the ball just takes off.

    • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:08 pm

      “one,” I meant.

    • snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:08 pm

      Yeah, for a big dude, he’s got a really nice, short compact swing…

  18. Winder said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:08 pm

    Craw has been amazing.

    • snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:10 pm

      He almost cranked a grand salami in the first.
      He’s just really on it this season when he makes contact.
      Stat line before the game today: .354/ .533/ .887 …

  19. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:09 pm

    Come on Bart. Let’s see a dinger this game…

    • snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:11 pm

      Hey, I’ll take the RBI flare, that’s cool…

  20. Winder said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:10 pm

    Small ball.

  21. Winder said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:11 pm

    I like this kind of ball.

  22. zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:12 pm

    Put the ball in play. 🙂

  23. alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:12 pm

    “ The Machine” Crawford does it all!
    Joey with a blooper for a Rib!
    Estrada with the nubber for an RBI as well lol 😂

    • xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:14 pm

      Joey and Thairo with RBI blasts! lol

  24. Winder said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:13 pm

    I had thought Lester retired. Glad he didn’t.

  25. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:14 pm

    Strange. Lester threw TBone a perfect pitch to bunt.

  26. alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:14 pm

    Now that’s how you square up right and get the bunt down!
    Perfect execution by T-Bone!

  27. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:17 pm

    Baseball is a funny game.
    One game you hit frozen ropes everywhere and they get caught.
    Today, some shots yes, but mixed in with a bunch of dinks and dunks…

  28. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:18 pm

    Slater steals on Lester, EZ PZ.
    Nats management hanging him out to dry, driving up the career ERA.
    This is getting embarrassing — a kind of a game where it’s a career ender or a DFA trigger, or an IL trigger at least…

    • Winder said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:35 pm

      You are right about that. They should have pulled him after about 30 pitches.

  29. alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:18 pm

    Slater jam shot..Oh yeah pour it on!
    Another line drive in the box score!

    • snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:21 pm

      Gyros making up for that oh for the series back in DC…

  30. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:23 pm

    These new, Phuckin’ unis are awesome ! …

    • alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:30 pm

      There starting to grow on me Snarkk.
      They have some super powers that’s working, maybe the double Golden Gate Bridge patches have something to do with it..

    • Winder said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:31 pm

      Lol.

  31. alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:26 pm

    That’s about as far as a Sac Fly you will see.2-3 ft more we’re talking a Grandslam for Yaz..

  32. Macdog said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:42 pm

    Nats look more like the Washington Generals today.

    • willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:09 pm

      lulz. Now you see how Dogs kicked their ass so often.

  33. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:42 pm

    Crawford with another double.
    Dude is just on it.
    He should probably take a day off tomorrow, or even late game today; relax for the AS game…

    • djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:56 pm

      Is Crawford’s great year because of all the new hitting instructors?
      If it is, he must be wondering about the advice he’d been getting all these years…

      • snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 2:59 pm

        I’ve heard local media say he is giving them credit.
        He’s made swing and stance adjustments per their advice; I don’t know what they are.
        He just seems to barrel up a lot more balls than before, and when he does, he clobbers them.
        Apparently they offer more than “see ball, hit ball”…

      • djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:03 pm

        And not having those prolonged slumps – less streaky…

      • xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:03 pm

        His defense has revived too. He was one of the worst defensive mlb SS in 2019. He’s again one of the best. Lot goin on behind the scenes and it doesn’t look like roids to me.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:04 pm

      Yeah Crawford should take tomorrow off.He’s got a of packing with his wife and 3 kids? are is it 4? along with who else is going in his expanding family.

  34. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:11 pm

    Zumie: On the coastal mountains, drive south on one and you’ll see the weather change at Pigeon Point just because the range gets closer to the coast there. Sometimes the line of demarcation is visible above as a sky of overcast clouds ending at that exact latitudinal line. Ran into something even more dramatic while sailing up the Mendocino coast one spring.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:24 pm

      Xoot were you playing some Jimmy Buffet “Changes in Latitude,Changes in attitude “ at the time, that could explain a lot🍹

      • xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:29 pm

        Well. Yeah. So how do you find Hawaii? Sail south til the butter melts and then turn right.

  35. Macdog said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:15 pm

    Mets announcer just said Acuna crashed into outfield fence on inside-the-park HR and had to be carted off the field in Braves-Marlins game.

    • djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:38 pm

      Could be season ending knee injury by some accounts…

    • xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:45 pm

      Shit. I love to watch that guy play.

  36. Macdog said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:25 pm

    #18 for Craw!

  37. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:42 pm

    Well, so far, so wild for Beede…

  38. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:45 pm

    Tyler’s restrung elbow has some strength. 97 mph fastball. Not much command though. So far.

  39. zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:48 pm

    That 2014 MLB draft was pretty weak overall. The Giants drafted Beede instead of Matt Chapman or Alex Verdugo, though, which looks bad in retrospect.

    • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:58 pm

      Schwarber and Trea Turner were drafted ahead of Beede, and that’s about all.

      • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:02 pm

        Brady Aiken was the first pick in that draft.

  40. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:53 pm

    Bart’s D is better, but from that knee flat down stance he can’t move latitudinally to block a ball in the dirt. ;).

  41. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:56 pm

    Maybe the pitching coaches saw enough to give him something to work on.
    But, given a perfect scenario with no pressure for his first time back, Beede just punched his ticket back to Sac.
    Maybe he was pumped, but looks like still pitching with a $100 arm and a 10 cent brain…

  42. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 3:59 pm

    If I had to guess on the Acuna injury, looks scarily like the type of landing for an ACL…

  43. willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:15 pm

    giants beating the Nats like they are DBax….who at least beat LA (more than Nats could do 0-7) last night, on road no less.

    • willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:17 pm

      14 hits now, 6 BBs couple errors. Realize $$, but why would Scherzer want to stick around with this group if he could go to contender?

  44. djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:19 pm

    The Grave Duggar is completely lost…

    • snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:24 pm

      That’s the issue for guys like him and Slater, isn’t it?
      They have too many streaks of good to very good hitting, then just totally lost.
      They’re OK defensively, Duggar is very good, but the hitting inconsistencies are tough to swallow.
      That the Gmen can be doing so well with that going on in the OF is amazing to me…

  45. mrsprtdude said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:25 pm

    Listening to Fleming on radio..(via computer). Nats sent pitcher up down 6. In todays baseball not a huge lead. “No greater example of throwing up the white flag then sending the pitcher up here”..

  46. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:28 pm

    Miller and Kruk got something going there. I would tune in to see a Flo and Ruf talking baseball segment. Sixty seconds of hilarity.

  47. zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:33 pm

    A weakness in Krukow’s broadcasting is he doesn’t know a huge amount about hitting. If a player is slumping at the plate, Krukow rarely can get into specifics about what’s happening with the batter.

    • snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:40 pm

      It’s easier to make S up about the home plate umps…

      • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:43 pm

        J.T. Snow, in his brief stint on the TV broadcasts, did a lot of analysis of hitters.

      • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:44 pm

        I don’t prefer Snow over Krukow, overall; but it was a nice change for a few games.

  48. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:33 pm

    Thairo Estrada 4-5 today.
    He’s making me ask: Mauricio who ?…

    • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:34 pm

      Yeah, talk about getting Wally Pipped.

  49. Macdog said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:34 pm

    Brebbia needs to be shelved.

    • djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:37 pm

      You’re the best at that!

  50. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:34 pm

    Oy, Brebbia — meh.
    Farhan needs to keep working on that Pen…

  51. Winder said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:35 pm

    Ballgame.

  52. djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:35 pm

    • snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:43 pm

      Shortest skirts in history, outside of Houston “Gentlemen’s” clubs.
      So I hear…

  53. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:36 pm

    Brebbia is supposed to be the two inning guy. Beede, aspirationally. I don’t think so. TBone is good though.

    • djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:38 pm

      TBone could still be an all-star.
      The defections are mounting…

    • zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:38 pm

  54. snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:38 pm

    Nice bounce back to take this series, at minimum, after dropping 2 of 3 to the Cards.
    Gausman tomorrow, so that’s looking good for the sweep…

  55. zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:40 pm

    Dodgers are one of the MLB Network games tonight.

  56. willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 4:43 pm

    Brebbia with 7 run lead making things interesting, yikes. Yaz saved his ass.

  57. djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    The strangest thing to me about this article is a 29 ounce bat.
    Can that be right?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/ex-yankee-joe-pepitone-suing-cooperstown-baseball-museum-for-storied-mickey-mantle-bat/ar-AAM0mpE?ocid=msedgntp

    • James said, on July 10, 2021 at 6:45 pm

      Mickey was using a disguised aluminum bat! I knew it wasn’t possible he was actually better than Mays.

      • djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 6:51 pm

        Unappreciated Mantle stat is how few GIDPs he had.
        Way, way less than Mays, Aaron, Clemente, etc…

    • unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2021 at 7:01 pm

      He was ahead of his time.Bonds used a 32 oz. What I used in little league.

      • djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 7:08 pm

        I’m sure it’s a mistake,
        Everything I looked up says 32-33 ounce.
        Nobody used a bat that light…

  58. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 5:54 pm

    Now here’s a good East Bay family.

    • willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 7:59 pm

      Great story. good of slusser to put that out there.

  59. djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 6:48 pm

    I read that the Giants have clinched the best record in baseball at the break…

    • snarkk said, on July 10, 2021 at 6:55 pm

      You talkin’ to us ?!…

  60. willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 8:00 pm

    Dogs with 5 in first. Dbax gonna have to scramble to get road winning streak to 2.

    • djloo27 said, on July 10, 2021 at 8:05 pm

      They just forfeited…

  61. willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 8:06 pm

    With sacks loaded one out, Turner hits foul pop that 1b goes over for right by the net, and drops.
    Next pitch Turner hits a grand slam, and it’s 9-0 top 2nd. Unreal

  62. zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 8:17 pm

    Yeah, no help from the D-Backs tonight.

  63. Flavor said, on July 10, 2021 at 8:38 pm

    pfftttt that was a long fucking day, Yes Loo we drink beers on the course, cart no walking. Time for bed.

  64. zumiee said, on July 10, 2021 at 8:39 pm

    The USA men’s basketball team lost to Nigeria in a pre-Olympic warm-up game.
    OK….

    • unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2021 at 9:23 pm

      Coached by the Dubs Mike Brown.

    • willedav said, on July 10, 2021 at 9:28 pm

      Kings big man from USC Chimezi Metu on that team. Also former Stanford forward KZ Okpala.

  65. xoot said, on July 10, 2021 at 8:45 pm

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 10, 2021 at 9:19 pm

      I feel his pain. Had ACL replacement/rebuild on left knee in SF back in ’97. On the shelf for nearly a year. Eek.

    • Winder said, on July 10, 2021 at 10:20 pm

      That is too bad Acuna is one of the real stars in the game.

  66. mrsprtdude said, on July 10, 2021 at 11:11 pm

    Tough break for Acuna. One of the most exciting players. Tatis and Soto maybe the only better/ more exciting young players to watch.

  67. willedav said, on July 11, 2021 at 7:36 am

    Rox Gonzalo Marquez threw 7 shutout innings at Pads last night and they won 3-0. Pads now 5 back, and closer to being out of the playoffs (4.5 ahead of Reds for WC) than they are to Giants.

  68. alleykat69 said, on July 11, 2021 at 8:16 am

    Giants will have the best record in baseball going into the A/S break, I’m still in awe of what they have accomplished.I hope and really demand the media in baseball gives this team their just do and talk about a team that was never supposed to be contending let alone in 1st place! Giants Baseball ⚾️ nothing better!


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