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Can’t Beat Them

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 25, 2021

Every year there is a team we can’t beat. This season it is the Pirates. Makes no sense. Just looking forward to good riddence and not having to play them again. I’m sure they’ll light up Wood. Let’s just get this over with already.

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  1. willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 7:04 am

    If someone who didn’t follow baseball closely had been watching last 2 games with you, and you told them one team was in first place and the other was in last, they’d probably say, “Yeah I can see that. One team hits pitches and fields well, and the other doesn’t.”

  2. Winder said, on July 25, 2021 at 7:42 am

    Hopefully getting spanked by the Pirates won’t derail the team attitude in any way. Every team goes through times like this.

  3. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:22 am

    Agree Winder and this team was never suppose to be in this spot in the first place.So what’s there longest losing streak of the season like just 4? Going into this season I had them at 74 wins and that was pushing the envelope I felt, and that would of seen a hell of lot of 8-9 games losing streaks easily.I’m not sweating this stupid Pirates series letdown, just waiting to rekick the Dogpile’s Asses coming up and to see what tinkering the mastermind wizard Z pulls off at the trade deadline..In Farhan we trust!!

    • Winder said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:46 am

      Pretty sure I had em at 74 wins also. Yeah, I have had more fun with this season than i ever expected. I still don’t have a clue what we are gonna do at the deadline.

  4. zumiee said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:50 am

    In Jerry Kramer’s great book, Instant Replay, about playing for the Green Bay Packers in the 1960s, there’s a moment in the book where he says that it’s impossible for NFL players to be emotionally up for every game. They’re only human, and they’re going to be emotionally flat sometimes. It’s frustrating to fans, but that’s just the way it is.
    It was probably predictable the Giants would be flat after that incredible series vs. the Dodgers, and with another Dodgers series coming up real soon.

  5. zumiee said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:57 am

    Before the first game of this series Greg Papa asked Kontos in the pregame show if there was a danger of the Giants being flat and Kontos said “No, they’re professionals, and they know how to get prepared for each game,” or something like that. The fans knew the danger was there, but Kontos didn’t? If he’s not going to be honest about stuff like that, there’s no point in having him on the pregame show.

  6. zumiee said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:11 am

    Speaking of flat…..
    Olympics spoiler alert!
    The….oh never mind. I won’t giveaway the results. It’s on TV replay later today.

    • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:29 am

      You have to be super careful and a little lucky to avoid results these days.
      So many different ways to accidently see or hear it.
      A text from a friend might be the most hazardous if it involves your favorite team.
      Your buddies don’t know you DVRed a game to watch later on…

  7. Irish Kevin said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:14 am

    Last night on post game Kruk was talking with someone else and they thought the let down would have been Friday’s game. I have yet to see this team let losses bother them, they seem to bounce back really well. I think they win today.

  8. willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:25 am

    Zum, unfortunate that politics of Kerr and Pop will come into this-I still see this noise in SF Chron over Kerr. Chron writer Ann Killion is in Japan and after first L by womens soccer team vs. Sweden majority of comments in Chron were “good” and serves them right for hating on America etc.
    So called patriots hoping their own county loses, yikes.

  9. willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:30 am

    Recent run of success at plate by GD might involve him as trade chip. BA is up to .285, OB at .350 OPS .840 one of better (top 6 I think) marks on team.
    I’ve seen ton of trade proposals by Giants fans, and almost all of them involve Dubon Dickerson yada yada. I mean if that is who you are giving up, then who do you realistically hope to get back?
    Z/H plan for this season has been exclusively acquiring under radar guys, and honestly I don’t expect that to change in the next week. It will be interesting to see who SF looks to extend, and who they non tender or low ball in arb like Solano.

    • Flavor said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:34 am

      this reminds me of Loo’s classic line in ST when he asked Daniel:
      djloo27 said, on March 16, 2021 at 12:56 pm (Edit)
      Is there any buzz about the Grave Duggar in St. Louis?
      He’s a Cardinal type of player…

      LOL. Anyway, nobody had heard of Grave Duggar then and I doubt anyone wants to trade for him now. He’s a valuable piece to our team, not sure he’d be wanted elsewhere.

      • willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:41 am

        He’s still only a platoon guy, and how Kap uses him, batting 8th Friday, says it all. Fits what Kap likes to do, but doesn’t seem like everyday guy; 2021 might be ceiling if used sparingly enough. Could see him as toss in to part of deal for someone else they are interested in.

      • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:44 am

        Daniel was nice enough to give a straight answer.
        I don’t think it’s out of the question that he goes at the TD.
        He’s got some genuine value now and makes peanuts…

      • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:53 am

        He really is a Cardinal type of player!

  10. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:33 am

    Kontos sure how a lame excuse for Leone the other night with his struggles.
    :Well this different factors going into StLouis&LA with humidity and gripping a baseball over Oracle Park,Wtf your a big league pitcher you should be able to grip a ball in any park…

  11. Flavor said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:35 am

    i gave up DVRing shit years ago. Unless I’m going to turn my ph off which I’m not going to do

    • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:50 am

      MLBTV archives the games about an hour after they’re over, so sometimes I go that route.
      Still tough to avoid a score if you turn anything on.
      When I DVR Ranger (hockey) games, I might get a spoiler text from an angry friend or two…

      • Macdog said, on July 25, 2021 at 12:13 pm

        Ah, good to know.

  12. willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:37 am

    dubon, as Xoot noted homered the other day and had 2 hits last night in laugher W, raising BA to .392.
    Ramos had 0 fer but got 3 walks stole a bag and scored 3 times. Only runs Sac gave up were 2 in an inning of work by—Trevor Gott.
    Will wilson homered for Richmond. Hitting only .215 but playing SS there after promotion from High A Eugene.
    Beede pitched the other night for Sac, went 3 2/3 gave up only 1 unearned run but threw 78 pitches. He took L as Sac didn’t score. One of guys who followed him was Doval who gave up 3 hits 3 runs in 1 inning of work.

  13. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 9:55 am

    Still not seeing a lineup for today, but I sure hope Yaz sits and the Sock Man performs some unexpected magic before he’s released…

  14. gianthead said, on July 25, 2021 at 10:00 am

    Team may have been emotionally exhausted after the Flodger series but they cant let up on them as they come into SF. Winning two not a must but if SmelLA takes two they will be mentally over last week’s Jansen meltdown.

    But these last two losses should be a sign that they need add pieces to remain seriousn contenders. One starter one bat…

    • alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 10:20 am

      Mitch Haniger 2 more HR’s and a double for 3 RBI’s last night.There’s the RH power bat outfielder that would be perfect for this LU. Not a rental either as ridiculously cheap contract of 3 million doesn’t expire till after 2022 season..

  15. gianthead said, on July 25, 2021 at 10:01 am

    Was a little shocked to see Flav’s note about Barry turning 57 and immediately thought has to be a mistake, he cant be that old then realized I will be 54 in sept…FUCK!

    • Irish Kevin said, on July 25, 2021 at 10:24 am

      Getting old sucks, aches and pains and my thought is how the hell did I get here.

  16. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 10:08 am

    Loo.. Maybe Tauchman can be a catcher now, they’re hasn’t been a LH catcher since Benny Distefano for the Pirates who caught 3 straight games back in 1989..

    • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 10:19 am

      He is strong,
      He is invincible,
      He is Sock Man…

      • alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 10:39 am

        I am Sockman hear me now
        Cause my bats not very loud
        And I have no options now
        So i continue to lock in a spot
        Cause they still think all get hot

  17. willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 10:51 am

    While schedule does include rematch with Dogs, plus Division leaders Houston and Milwaukee, there are some “trap” games in next 3 weeks too–6 games with AZ and 4 at home with Rockies who are 10-35 on road.

  18. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 10:57 am

    No Sock Man, no cry…

    1. LaMonte Wade Jr (L) RF
    2. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
    3. Alex Dickerson (L) LF
    4. Darin Ruf (R) 1B
    5. Wilmer Flores (R) 3B
    6. Steven Duggar (L) CF
    7. Thairo Estrada (R) SS
    8. Curt Casali (R) C
    9. Alex Wood (R) P

    • snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 11:07 am

      There is nobody in that LU that is scary. Maybe that is the key to Gyros success. Also the key to when they lose…

      • Flavor said, on July 25, 2021 at 11:32 am

        exactly. That LU LOOKS terrible. 100% castoffs/guys no team wanted

      • willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 11:42 am

        who cares what it looks like? only care what it does. Same goes for pitching.
        Giants held Max Muncy, scary as he is, to 2-10 over last couple Dogs games. and what happened? Taylor was guy that hurt SF.
        Giants entire team except for BC, is built around cast off under radar guys. And their offense is one of top run scoring teams in the NL.

  19. willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 11:09 am

    Kat, Haniger has 25 bombs (next closest on team have 18 and 12) and best OPS on team. why would M’s, having surprising season 7 games above .500, dump this guy? Story on MLBTR said they are looking for SP and 2b help…how would Giants and M’s fit?

    • alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 12:00 pm

      Well they also need a catcher cause the one’s they have are no good..
      Let’s face are OF needs a boost desperately especially a RH slugger..
      Ok here’s a proposal, Bart, Dubon& Hejelle,throw in Tauchman for a bag of balls as well,for Haniger and reliever Schienrider?

  20. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 11:29 am

    Bonds at 57 off the street and bike trail would be more dangerous at bat than Tauchman; even his strike outs would be far more interesting…

  21. Macdog said, on July 25, 2021 at 12:17 pm

  22. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 1:10 pm

    Well that didn’t take long to fall behind..

  23. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 1:16 pm

    And that didn’t take long for Wade to tie it up with HR number 11..

  24. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 1:49 pm

    SabEvans traded Reynolds in 2018 to get Cutch.
    He’s now got a .921 OPS for the year, and clearly the best player the Pirates have. Cutch essentially made no difference to the Giants over the few months he was here, before they traded him near the deadline that season to the Yanks for Avelino (where is he?). So, 1/2 a near useless season of Cutch in exchange for an OFer good for a decade that makes the current OF crop in SF look like pikers. Nice parting shot move the Giants are still suffering from, SabEvans…

    • alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 1:59 pm

      Yeah not Sabes finest moment dealing Reynolds.
      Guess he owed them one for fleecing Schmidt and Voglesong back in the days..

    • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:41 pm

      I’d give ’em a pass on Reynolds.
      When you think of all the deals that worked out and contributed to the 3 titles, it’s really not fair…

      • xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:03 pm

        late-stage Sabe/Evans was not a good way to go

  25. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 1:53 pm

    Alex Wood not exactly the poster boy against the DH.
    Oh for 28 this season.
    Flemm calling out the Giants pitchers for horrific batting this season…

  26. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    Wade goes for second HR !
    Belt who ? …

  27. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    Wade is making a big statement today…

    • willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:25 pm

      His first bomb of season May 31.
      Now on 11, in two months. Gotta find somewhere for him to play once Belt returns, at least vs. RHP.

      • willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:37 pm

        11 more.

  28. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    Damm Wade 2nd HR number 12 he is raking Bombs!!

  29. xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    duggar spun like an auger

  30. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    Doing the cha cha dance 🕺 but GD makes a nice grab..

  31. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:03 pm

    Is the Red Rhino old enough to drink?

    • xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:08 pm

      Naw. Nothing but pot and pills for that puerile porker.

  32. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:17 pm

    I’m guessing his go to drink is a Red Bull.

  33. James said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:26 pm

    Estrada’s ABs this series are showing Dubon how he lost his job.

    • willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:29 pm

      and just like Dubon is doing now, Thairo lit up AAA at Sac. Step up ain’t easy.

  34. willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:27 pm

    man, great shot loved Pops #8. That Pirates team from 79 one of my fav all time.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:40 pm

      Yeah that Lumber company Pirates team was sure full of stars! A favorite team of mine as well..
      They got great production also out of Mike “Hitman” Easler & John “Hammer” Milner as well in there OF..

      • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:43 pm

        Loved watching Easler hit.
        Swung the bat like an axe…

      • xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:48 pm

        that’s the way Jack Clark taught batters to swing when he was hitting coach for the dodgers. guy embroiled in a sports lawsuit told me about it. Chopping wood.

  35. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:44 pm

    Another time where they can’t get a guy in from 3rd with one out.
    They’ve got to fix that or they aren’t winning the division…

    • zumiee said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:53 pm

      They are what they are now. An HR/K team, like the Dodgers. A team can win a championship that way, but it has its frustrations watching it for entertainment value.

      • snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:03 pm

        I don’t think a team like that can win the WSeries. The Doghairs of last year were much more talented that this Giants team. Pitching in the playoffs is tougher that the regular season, expecting as many homers in the post season is fool’s gold, IMO…

  36. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:46 pm

    Sit down Nogonuts that was a perfect pitch chump, stop bitchin clown 🤡

  37. xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:46 pm

    CLANK! CLANK!

  38. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:47 pm

    Not exactly the Brandons defensively…

  39. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:47 pm

    2nd string defense is showing its ugly head this weekend…

  40. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:48 pm

    Tough stretch they need Estrada to be better, are Dubon gets the call backup..

  41. zumiee said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:49 pm

    Estrada is flubbing lately.

    • xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:50 pm

      trade him for Kimbrel, now!

  42. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 2:58 pm

    • zumiee said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:01 pm

      Looked for a moment like it might hit that raised sign.

  43. xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:00 pm

    Duggar doubler

  44. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:04 pm

    Good job sending Estrada.
    Giants should do more running, if they ever get on before HRs…

  45. xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:06 pm

    Kuip’s meds sure agree with him

  46. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:07 pm

    More like it.
    Actually stringing some hits together for runs, forcing the defense to make (boot) a play, etc….

  47. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:09 pm

    Tauchman, rally killer or extender?…

    • snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:14 pm

      Shocking, another K.
      He’s now at 51 Ks / 150 ABs = 34% K rate. Tolerable, maybe, if you slug.
      OBP .283, SLG .281. Yikes and a half. How is that even possible for major league position player?
      [ Yaz is at 26% K rate, with a .517 SLG ]
      I keep waiting for a DFA, it doesn’t happen.
      IDK what that says, maybe nothing, about OFers at Sac…

      • willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:27 pm

        I think you’re right, that’s exactly what it is. I’m not defending Tauchman, but Z/H haven’t moved him yet. Kap has him at far end of bench and hardly ever plays him, last of 13. But whomever replaces him likely isn’t any great shakes either. Braden Bishop and McCarthy have both been fails at ML level.

      • snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:48 pm

        Well, I can’t explain it.
        He’s effectively near hopeless as a hitter, for an extended period of time.
        I find it hard to believe that Farhan would not cut him just because he gave up Peralta for him, in a don’t want to recognize a mistake — pride kind of thing…

  48. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:09 pm

    About time the Pirates start to unravel..
    Mr.Ed wasn’t horsing around with that long Bomb!!
    3 more for the bombardiers today!!

  49. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:11 pm

    Always count on Tauchman to non produce, geez another K so not surprising!

  50. xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    Flo and Bobbles are the dependable IFs? Wow. I’ll take it.

  51. willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:23 pm

    9 ground balls from Wood, including all important GIDP . Think how much better that will be for him once Longoria Crawford and Belt are on IF behind him.

  52. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:33 pm

    You can’t blame Tauchman for striking out,cause his new excuse is I’m a pitcher we’re not suppose to hit..

    • snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:50 pm

      He’s a better pitcher, if you consider the amount of practice time spent on hitting vs. pitching…

  53. unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:46 pm

    The pisser about Cutch is Cutch has 17 HRs and 57 RBIs.

    Cutch or Reynolds would work in our OF.

    • snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:57 pm

      Too bad we don’t have a guy like Reynolds in the farm system…

  54. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:49 pm

    Ponch Power!! Number 4 for the day!
    As the bombardiers keep dropping Bombs 💣

  55. xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:49 pm

    With two strikes, Thairo took a great curve down, just off the outside corner. Then he fouled two pitches, one a high FB, and got the same curve again, but not so low and not so far away, and he blasted it over the CF fence. mlb level AB.

    • snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:53 pm

      Definitely a more mature player than Dubon.
      Not necessarily better or more useful defensively (yet)…

    • James said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:58 pm

      Hope that’s more indicative of where he’s at. That’s some impressive Altuve like pop he has.

  56. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Pads putting in the chips.
    Adam Frazier just moved from Bucs to Pads.
    And, we’re phuckin’ around with a guy like Tauchman?…

  57. willedav said, on July 25, 2021 at 3:58 pm

    Dodgers crowd overreaction from Kuiper there. Didn’t even get to warning track.

  58. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:00 pm

    Goodbye, Newman…

  59. Macdog said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:01 pm

    Victory!

  60. djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:01 pm

  61. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:03 pm

    Where will Jake from State Farm play now?

    • sandog said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:06 pm

      Outfield maybe? No way is he coming out of the line up. I think Profar is the guy they have been looking to replace.

      • alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:14 pm

        I think Frazier can play outfield actually San Dog,
        Though benching Hosmer( guess won’t happen) could free up Frazier at 2nd and Jake at 1st..

  62. snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:04 pm

    Gyros with the needed win.
    Could not allow a sweep from the Bucs…

  63. Flavor said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:06 pm

    Another guy I was wrong about: Lamonte Wade. Although I wasn’t totally wrong, he’s never had a hit off a left hander in his life. Same as me. I have the same BA that Wade has vs lefties at the MLB level

    • snarkk said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:18 pm

      Yep, definition of a platoon player…

    • alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:18 pm

      Yeah but I bet you could hit a left hand softball pitcher though..

      • Flavor said, on July 26, 2021 at 5:13 am

        There are some balls I hit that NASA is still tracking.

  64. Winder said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:10 pm

    This one is just what the doctor ordered. Bring on the dogs.

    • zumiee said, on July 25, 2021 at 5:40 pm

  65. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:11 pm

    Geez the Millennials interviewing Wade with the dork Red Rhino oh the background.Just so wrong!
    That bunch adds nothing, they just need to go away..

    • xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 4:39 pm

      uh, I don’t think that’s happening, kat. I think geezers like me need to ride it out.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2021 at 7:00 pm

      Is Red Rhino a dude or a chick? He/she looks like Pat.

      • xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 7:36 pm

        they are a proud young porker. don’t be so transphobic

      • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:00 pm

        I think this will explain RR pretty well…

      • unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:22 pm

        I ain’t transphobic, I just don’t know the gender of the Red Rhino. I’m more mullet-phobic.

      • unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:30 pm

        OK,watched the vid.

      • xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:34 pm

        bullshit. Pat didn’t have a mullet. This RR response is hilarious.

  66. xoot said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:06 pm

    I think the new 415 (SF area code) bleacher seat promotion the Giants hoped to hype got bombed by the RR.

  67. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:24 pm

    Loo.. I’m busting a gut…great fine..
    The opening line was a classic by Dave..
    “Look at this fucking guy, I feel like Major League when Wild Thing walked in the clubhouse, look at this fucking guy…

    • djloo27 said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:36 pm

      He’s just a goofball kid and a Giant fan.
      I gotta like him…

  68. alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2021 at 8:48 pm

    Yeah he’s all that.Kid is going viral 11K followers now with deals ,sweatshirts,hair products of course for the mullet.Damm maybe I should of kept my short lived mullet from the 80’s lol 😂..
    Goofball kids unite led by this Giants finatic..


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