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KB Arrives?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 1, 2021

I’m still super irritated with KB for lollygagging his ass to town. Turns out we didn’t need him but that is a BAD sign as far as I’m concerned. I’m sure my irritation will go away once that first bomb flies out of the park….

Two flap up salute to the passing of Dick Lamm. He was the dad of one of my best friends. We are at the age where our parents are starting to pass on–it’s a heavy, unknown burden to bear, one that I’m not sure how I’m going to handle when it happens to me. I’m thinking of Scott and his family today. I’m so thankful I got to see both my parents this Summer. You reading this dad? I love you!

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  1. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 10:33 am

    Players technically have up to 3 days to report to there new team, so no surprise Bryant’s first game would be today.( they will bat him cleanup from here on out)It’s a lot to deal with for a player, packing bags,wives,kids ( pulling them out of schools/daycare) relocation, finding a new condo,house, travel, cars, it’s just not easy mid season, compared to being traded in the winter for an easy transition to ST..

    Read where a new player going to a new team usually takes about 15-20 games to adjust and really feel comfortable hitting there stride again.Hopefully that won’t be the case for Bryant, they’ll need his RH power bat to help stave off the Dogpile right away..

    • zumiee said, on August 1, 2021 at 10:37 am

      Well said.

  2. Winder said, on August 1, 2021 at 10:54 am

    I just hope he learns to want to be here.

  3. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 11:28 am

    1. LaMonte Wade Jr (L) LF
    2. Kris Bryant (R) 3B
    3. Mike Yastrzemski (L) RF
    4. Buster Posey (R) C
    5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    6. Darin Ruf (R) 1B
    7. Steven Duggar (L) CF
    8. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
    9. Logan Webb (R) P

  4. chipower9 said, on August 1, 2021 at 11:52 am

    In the interview with Z right after the trade was made, he said that Bryant was ecstatic to be coming to the Giants. Giants have a couple months to work in a long-term deal. Three with an option would work, IMO.

    Go Giants – Best the cheaters…

  5. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 1:11 pm

    We play in a band box.
    FA hitters will be lining up to come to SF…

  6. snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 1:19 pm

    65 degrees at game time, but conditions seem ripe for another homer fest today…

  7. Macdog said, on August 1, 2021 at 1:25 pm

    That’s Kris with a K.

  8. Macdog said, on August 1, 2021 at 1:43 pm

    The teams with the two best records playing each other this weekend, and not one game shown on any of the national networks. Way to go MLB!

    • djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 1:47 pm

      It is the free game of the day on MLBTV, if that helps anyone…

  9. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 1:45 pm

    Geez a double for Ruf…Fuck Ruf..😒

  10. Macdog said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:05 pm

    Bryant bomb!

  11. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:06 pm

    What a laser beam!!!

  12. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:09 pm

    There you go a bomb by Bryant welcome sir!
    And Yaz follows it up with a ringing double to the 415 kiddie section..

  13. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:11 pm

    Was the Red Rhino DFA’ed?

    • alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:21 pm

      Lol he’s too big for his britches now to bother with a Giants game.

  14. snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:18 pm

    KB addition already shows how his bat really extends this LU…

  15. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:18 pm

    Freaking Ruf another huge hit knocking in 2 for the lead!

  16. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:20 pm

    GD WTF???

  17. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:24 pm

    GD struck out twice in that AB.Freaking swing the back when you have 2 ducks on the pond in scoring position ferchrissakes!! As Twin would say..

  18. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:26 pm

    Nice quick shutdown by Webb…

  19. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:37 pm

    We all know the Giants pitchers suck as hitters , so they to drop a bunt down to help themselves out.
    Webb is there best bunter easily.That was was beauty and 1st pitch too always important..

  20. gianthead said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:44 pm

    Chi, dont think 3 year deal with an option year is going to do it for KB. He finally hit his free agency year after much heartburn with the Cubs and this will be his only big free agent contract. Begin at five years because someone else will. 5 year $100 mill does he take???

    • djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:07 pm

      Not nearly enough, GH.
      He’ll need an AAV of $30 million…

  21. Flavor said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:45 pm

    OK Mr. Bryant, I forgive you for yesterday’s lollygaggin’

  22. Flavor said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:47 pm

    I’m not worried about signing KB. It’s probably much less than 50/50 ESPECIALLY if he performs like we hope he does. Driving back from Reno today, listening to Marty’s show, maybe it was Laskey, I forget, they made a big case for Greinke to get into the HOF *in 10-15 years* once you start comparing him to what today’s pitchers do—which is shit, they do shit. How are any of these young guys gonna get into the HOF pitching 5 innings a start?

  23. Flavor said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:48 pm

    Garcia is impossible to watch pitch

    • djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:55 pm

      You sure lit a fire under Ruf, Flavor!

      • Flavor said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:05 pm

        when someone needs a kick in the ass I am happy to step up and kick them

  24. Flavor said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    Ruf.

  25. Macdog said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    Hot Ruf!

  26. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:56 pm

    Fucking RUF stay HOT 🔥🔥🔥

  27. Flavor said, on August 1, 2021 at 2:59 pm

    Grave Duggar not looking ready to play today.

  28. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:02 pm

    Overmatched again.GD needs to get his act back together..

  29. xoot said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    It’s hard to criticize the one pitcher who can bunt, but Krukow’s right. If Webb had pulled back and butcher boyed that pitch Gurriel charged, even if he missed it or fouled it off, Gurriel probably wouldn’t’ve charged so hard again. And, of course, he might have made hard contact.

  30. snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:22 pm

    Shocking, a nice defensive play by a Giants pitcher — Leone…

  31. Macdog said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:25 pm

    Wow, I didn’t know all that about pinch-hitter Castro, going back to Cain’s perfecto.

  32. snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:26 pm

    Leone with a great effort.
    Rally slapped down, with a smooth defensive play on the bunt leading the way.
    Friggin’ pitchers for SF need to bump up their defensive play.
    Part of that is on the coaches, too. Have some infield for the pitchers. If they already do that once in a while, it doesn’t show…

    • Macdog said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:39 pm

      Another good play by a pitcher!

  33. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    The usual dinks and doinks off Rogers

    • snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:41 pm

      Rogers generates the grounders, and some will find their way into hits, it’s just the way it is with him.
      Infielder placement is key, because not many are going to K.
      A few more Ks would be nice from him…

    • unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:43 pm

      Still very aggravating

  34. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:39 pm

    Nice play tho

  35. snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:39 pm

    Hell yeah, that’s two good defensive plays in a row by Gyros hurlers !…

  36. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:42 pm

    I’m going to start calling Wade “Bobbles” he’s good at it in 1st are the outfield.
    Don’t want to say that if I ran into his mom at a game though, she’s got a menacing gamer face on and would kick my ass..

  37. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:43 pm

    Man, solano is making me old watching g him field geounders

    • snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:47 pm

      He’s making me think about bringing back my “Stonehands” moniker I used for Durham way back when…

  38. Flavor said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:45 pm

    shaky Rogers gets thru the 8th…..
    So, this has been bothering me for a bit. I don’t have a problem with teams advocating getting vaxxed. But I don’t like it on the field. It’s just a PR move. Almost everyone on this side of the Bay is vaxxed. And those who aren’t will not be swayed at this point my a PR move on the field. In fact, most of these anti-vaxxers are stupid and therefore stubborn and it will make them less likely to get the vax–although at this point I can’t imagine anything motivating them. Which brings me back to the Vax Up ad scrawled all over the field. Get rid of it.

  39. Flavor said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:52 pm

    like, maybe run a Vax up ad across the ad line behind home plate once in a while. On the field is overkill

    • snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:58 pm

      The only thing that will make these anti-vax people get the vax will be that their choice of “freedumb” actually has consquences for them. Such as, vaxx up, or lose your job, or no entry to the ball park, or no movie theater. Lets see how much their principles are worth to them when it actually costs something. Europe is starting to introduce consequences like that and withholding of other privileges, and lo and behold, they are having a sudden spike in vaccinations…

    • djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 3:59 pm

      Like anything that’s in front of you all the time, you don’t really notice it after awhile…

    • djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:01 pm

      Give the morons a beer and a hot dog voucher and vax ’em at the yard.
      In NY, they’re paying people to get it.
      I should’ve waited…

  40. Flavor said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:06 pm

    Woo Hoo! McGee! My favorite!!!!

  41. unca_chuck said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:06 pm

    Mr Magoo!!!!!!!

  42. Winder said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:07 pm

    These guy are just fucking amazing.

  43. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:07 pm

  44. snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    Really good series win for the the GMen.
    They can more than hang with the big boys.
    Dusty’s charges are totally legit.
    This Kris Bryant thing looks like it will be a good add for sure…

    • Bozo said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:14 pm

      I agree 100%.

  45. Macdog said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:09 pm

    Good series win!

  46. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:15 pm

    They play like a team that expects to win…

    • zumiee said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:16 pm

  47. alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:16 pm

    Kris Bryant will be peppering those LF bleachers like Jeff Kent did, that I’m going to dig..

  48. snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:18 pm

    Giants went 7-3 in the recent 10 games with LA and Astros…

  49. zumiee said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:20 pm

    On a weekend that had Giants vs. Astros and Dodgers vs. D-Backs, the Dodgers gained no ground.

  50. snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 4:20 pm

    That Astros squad looks like it is the AL team to beat to get to the WSeries. They can friggin’ hit. Their pitching may not be the best, but they upgraded their Pen at the deadline. To me, the AL title is theirs to lose…

  51. James said, on August 1, 2021 at 6:40 pm

    The 2021 Giants are a perfectly constructed organism, ready to absorb all the positive or negative shit thrown its way. If there’s a God, no question who wins this year’s WS.

    • xoot said, on August 1, 2021 at 7:02 pm

      yeah, that’s a master amoeba we got there, ain’t no upstart bacterium or even some badass virus got a chance so long as we trust in god.

      But the Giants did take a series against the second-best team in baseball. And the new super-utility player contributed a lot. I was hoping for Watson in the 8th, but that’ll come.

      • James said, on August 1, 2021 at 7:35 pm

        Truly intelligent design would have included a Watson appearance.

    • snarkk said, on August 1, 2021 at 7:10 pm

      Giants as the Borg…

  52. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    Madison Bumgarner turns 32 today.
    I could somehow see him finishing his career as a Giant…

    • Macdog said, on August 1, 2021 at 7:02 pm

      Cueto vs. MadBum set for Tuesday.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 1, 2021 at 7:11 pm

      I could see that too Loo. And what’s even better the Giants could low ball him again on another contract..

  53. xoot said, on August 1, 2021 at 7:15 pm

    as to the vax up, I hope to see it during the world series. even the EU has passed the usa in vax % now (and that’s pretty piss poor, let me tell you).

    • James said, on August 1, 2021 at 8:10 pm

      The birthplace of fascism still has its share of “independent thinking” petit bourgeois nitwits. But the latter day sans culottes just needed a bit of compulsion to get in line. I suspect we have a cruder, more perverse sort to deal with.

      • xoot said, on August 1, 2021 at 10:27 pm

        the inability to use enormous resources to distribute effectively was the problem, from my son’s perspective (not that he, at the age of 23, perceived the problem the way I did), Here in the USA , where genocide and slavery took off fast in the olden days, the petty bougies got jabbed real quick.

  54. zumiee said, on August 1, 2021 at 7:26 pm

    Only 19 of the U.S. states have over 50% of their people fully vaccinated for Covid-19. None of those states are in the South or in the northern ‘mountain states.’

  55. djloo27 said, on August 1, 2021 at 8:32 pm

    VAX UP signs on a baseball field are about as effective as Gerald Ford’s WIN buttons…

    • xoot said, on August 1, 2021 at 10:22 pm

      la lucha sigue, compa

  56. xoot said, on August 1, 2021 at 10:21 pm

    call from Stix tonight. No news, really. Health issues, but not bad; work continues, but not swiftly. He’s always happy to hear about the 2021 Giants.

  57. willedav said, on August 2, 2021 at 7:31 am

    Stix should be really happy—as Kap said, they played well vs. 2 very good squads. Interesting to see how Bryant/Boras and Giants/Kapler plays out. right away he sends platoon guys to the bench, especially in OF.
    What is best spot in lineup for him and how does that affect others? $$$ shouldn’t be an issue—if he likes it here and plays well, Z/H should be able to make him an offer he can’t refuse.
    added bonus–his family can drive down from Vegas every time team is in AZ–like for next 4.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 2, 2021 at 8:13 am

      I would say 2-3 hole for Bryant, I want him up as much as possible.I believe Ross was trying him some at leadoff knowing he would get the most AB’s then anyone there, but not for the Giants I don’t think that’s a good spot for him.You can use Yaz,Slater,Wade , and maybe Estrada even.
      There’s other options behind with Yaz&Posey 3are4 depending on pitcher L-R even a healthy Belt would be good protection, possibly Longo as well lots of veterans with experience..

      My guess on contract 4/140 with a 5th year option is what will be needed.This is his 1st chance at F/A to test the market after the Cubs screwed him over at the start of his career..
      He’s a definite player they need to hang onto with his multiple positions he can play..

  58. Winder said, on August 2, 2021 at 7:48 am

    Interested to see how we come out in AZ. After winning a couple of dogfights against LA, and the Stros, I just hope we don’t have a letdown like we did in the Pirates series.

  59. chipower9 said, on August 2, 2021 at 7:59 am

    Agree, Winder. Trap series?

    Tuesday – high drama…Cueto vs. Mason Saunders.

    • Winder said, on August 2, 2021 at 8:55 am

      Looks like it could be a trap series. I don’t think it will be though.

    • Macdog said, on August 2, 2021 at 9:05 am

      Mason Saunders, haha.

    • djloo27 said, on August 2, 2021 at 11:52 am

      Good memory, Chi.
      I hadda google…

  60. alleykat69 said, on August 2, 2021 at 8:56 am

    Giants the only team in baseball with less then 40 losses at 39! Incredible what they have done ✅

  61. willedav said, on August 2, 2021 at 8:58 am

    Saw Camilo doval pitch for Sac vs. Reno Aces yesterday. In 8th, with 1 run lead, he left after walking bases loaded. Threw more sliders than fastballs, dunno why. first guy up, RH, he threw 3 sliders at 87 bending one in for a strike. Then here comes high hard one at 98, inches in front of bill of batting helmet.
    yikes epitome of uncomfortable AB. None of fastballs he threw were less than 97. command, um still lacking.

  62. zumiee said, on August 2, 2021 at 10:59 am

    Somehow, so far, the Padres and the Dodgers have played a few more games than the Giants.
    Padres- 108
    Dodgers- 107
    Giants- 105
    The Giants lead the Dodgers by 4 in the loss column, and lead the Padres in the loss column by an astounding 8 games.
    Padres and Dodgers are off tonight.

  63. alleykat69 said, on August 2, 2021 at 11:05 am

    I noticed the Indians and Bluejays have only played 102 games the least, I’m assuming more rainouts?

  64. snarkk said, on August 2, 2021 at 11:06 am

    Dbacks have been playing a bit better lately, overall. Gyros should take the series 3 of 4, you can’t assume a sweep, obviously, but take it if it comes. Getting the first one tonight would be big. The schedule is kind to Giants the next two weeks, with 10 of next 13 with Dbacks and Rockies. If they can take 7 of those 10, that would be great. Brewers are 3 of the 13 , in Brewtown, so that looks tough. After those two weeks, the schedule is brutal the rest of the season…

    • djloo27 said, on August 2, 2021 at 11:50 am

      Gotta get Gauze Pad straightened out.
      If there was ever a season that a 6 man rotation made sense this was it.
      But I don’t think anybody tried it…

  65. unca_chuck said, on August 2, 2021 at 12:41 pm

    Got to wonder if the umps cracking down on spider tack has something to do with Gasman’s ineffectiveness. He didn’t drop off right away, but he seems to have lost velocity.

    • snarkk said, on August 2, 2021 at 12:59 pm

      He’s not controlling that split or forkball like he did before. They’re spitting on it, not swinging on it.
      I think that kind of trick pitch doesn’t depend on high spin rate, but a lower spin rate, so I’m not convinced the sticky stuff ban is really impacting him.
      His post AS game and baby emergency control seems to me more of the problem.
      I’d like to see League offense stats on before vs. after the ban on the sticky stuff.
      I’ve seen a few articles that say the early returns show increased offense…

      • willedav said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:37 pm

        Chron had some of that today for Giants and A’s. Everyone on SF has less spin rate Cueto is affected the least, DeSclafani a bit more than him. As for ERA change, most dramatic by far is Gausman at over 2 runs; Cueto and Wood up 0.75. Webb and DeSclafani ERAs have dropped a full run.
        As you said, other things factoring into Gausman slide. James mentioned loss of velo on fastball too.

      • willedav said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:41 pm

        spin rate and ERA stats since June 3…these were only ones listed so some other statcast stuff might say more, like hard contact or BA or bombs.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 2, 2021 at 1:04 pm

      I don’t think that was it Chuck, I’m more inclined to believe his wife’s birth was more complicated then we’re led to believe and that messed him up,along with his mechanics are out of whack and he mentioned that one after his last start.Just need to find my release point.Teams in their prep work are laying off his splits,sliders, breaking ball more when it’s “ out of the zone”.It’s all about continually making adjustments on both sides.

      For all of are cringing when :Oh great it’s McGee coming for the 9th to close,
      well guess what he was just named closer of the month in the NL with 7 saves in July!

      • Winder said, on August 2, 2021 at 1:50 pm

        Amazing.

      • unca_chuck said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:02 pm

        Smoke and mirrors, baby. Mr Magoo still makes me nervous, as do all the seemingly seeing-eye hits that Mr. Rogers gives up, but they are getting it done, so why worry?

        Mad30

      • chipower9 said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:04 pm

        And 23 saves out of 25 save opportunities. Giants first in the ML with 38.

        If the shoe fits…

      • unca_chuck said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:07 pm

        Yeah, most of the blown saves go to the likes of Whisler’s grandma Brebbia, ZZ Flop, and the rest of the AAAA relievers we blew through. Diigging getting Watson back.

      • snarkk said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:38 pm

        Count me as still not convinced by McGoo.
        Bottom of 9th in game 7 of NLCS, up by one run in oppo’s house.
        You’re not nervous about McGoo giving it up?
        I am, and would/will be…

      • unca_chuck said, on August 2, 2021 at 4:02 pm

        That’s why God invented whiskey.

      • djloo27 said, on August 2, 2021 at 4:07 pm

        In that situation, I’d be nervous about ANYONE, Snarkk.
        Even the greatest have failed…

        https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI200111040.shtml

  66. chipower9 said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:10 pm

    1. Mike Yastrzemski (L) RF
    2. Kris Bryant (R) 3B
    3. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    4. Buster Posey (R) C
    5. Alex Dickerson (L) LF
    6. Darin Ruf (R) 1B
    7. Steven Duggar (L) CF
    8. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
    9. Anthony DeSclafani (R) P

    • zumiee said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:45 pm

      I know Kap likes to make sure everyone is getting playing time, but unless he’s injured (and he might be) I think Wade should keep getting those leftfield starts against the righties, now that Ruf has earned more playing time at first base. Dick hasn’t really earned starts. But Wade might be dinged up.

      • zumiee said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:47 pm

        When people start coming off the IL, and Wade is probably sent back to Sac, that is going to hurt to see happen, and Dick gets to keep a major league roster spot. The guy hasn’t been real good in a long time.

      • zumiee said, on August 2, 2021 at 3:49 pm

        All that to say, I guess, I don’t like seeing Dick getting starts at Wade’s expense. But, obviously, Wade might be dinged up.

      • unca_chuck said, on August 2, 2021 at 4:04 pm

        They’d better not send Wade down at the cost of Limp Dick. Certainly they see how well Wade is doing. Plus, his mom may very well kick Grandpa’s ass. AND Kapler’s.

      • snarkk said, on August 2, 2021 at 4:58 pm

        Dick has an MLB deal, but it’s in late season stages now.
        If he got DFA’d, not a lot of money wasted.
        Wade instead of Dick, for sure, if that’s the choice.
        Dick has been limp or hurt all year, so it’s time to stop Waiting for GoDick…

  67. alleykat69 said, on August 2, 2021 at 9:44 pm

    Action Jackson is an easy called to be shipped out as well.3 bad outings and Options , the double killer ..Can’t believe this crap 💩 up 7-1 now tied at 8-8!!


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