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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 13, 2021

Just a weekend thread to keep the line moving. Such a letdown from last Saturday.

Alabama 52 point favorite in their game today. FIFTY TWO. Can’t even look forward to the Niners playing since they don’t get executed till Monday. At least the Warriors are surprising but this feels more like a run against the schedule than it does an actual run. Whatever, chop it up.

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  1. willedav said, on November 13, 2021 at 7:53 am

    thinking about Niners and motivation…that has to come from within locker room. Guys are playing for each other and who is next to them and in the huddle. Props to Kittle for carrying a football around with him all day, good stuff.

    Disconnect with Shanahan at top of pyramid that is pro football these days is trying to do things you want to have happen vs. what your team can do in reality. So you have to adjust plans to get more out of who you have, and get more talented guys in there (apparently another area he has large input with Lynch) in first place. So far, fails on both parts for Niners.

  2. zumiee said, on November 13, 2021 at 7:57 am

    The Kings managed to blow an 18 point lead against OKC and lost by 2.
    And Bagley’s minutes in the game was again a big 0.
    There’s no way this situation isn’t sucking life out of the team.

  3. willedav said, on November 13, 2021 at 8:05 am

    another one of my fav guys in NBA is Lu Dort, from Canada and OKC. Saw him as one and done at ASU 2 years ago. Built like linebacker, and drove to hoop like freight train, with limited guard skills and shaky outside shot. Vs. GS he had to guard Curry and chased him all over court, fighting through screens from posts to get back to him. Thunder are really young and aren’t very good outside Shai Gilgeous Alexander from Kentucky, but some of them have a future
    and last night Dort did Kings in with steal from D’Aron Fox and game clinching layup.

  4. zumiee said, on November 13, 2021 at 8:10 am

    And the pandemic rolls on, because some people won’t get vaccinated.
    “In Fresno County, the region’s most populous, the vast majority of patients now hospitalized with COVID-19 are unvaccinated. They are mostly people in their 30s, 40s and 50s, and are often the primary financial providers for their families.
    There are many reasons the region is continuously besieged, but the primary culprit, public health officials and hospital administrators say, is a low rate of vaccination.”

  5. mrsprtdude said, on November 13, 2021 at 8:23 am

    Too early to tell how good they are, but exciting season shaping up for the Dubs. I don’t think it’s just an easy schedule. The new additions are all meshing, something that didn’t happen before. Already the best team, and contributions from KT, Wiseman, and 2 number 1 picks coming soon. Kumunga already getting good reviews from Green.

    It may blow up. Who knows, but at least it is something to look forward too. Niners so frustrating I cn hardly watch.
    Craig you should put up a poll. Who gets fired 1st Shanahan or Lynch. When? I think SF 1-10 in last 11 home games. Considering the talent level and expectation level, it’s surprising people are not calling for his firing more loudly already!

    • Winder said, on November 13, 2021 at 8:49 am

      I think they both have to go simultaneously.

      • Flavor said, on November 13, 2021 at 9:10 am

        Agree. No way.you keep 1.

    • Flavor said, on November 13, 2021 at 9:10 am

      They got rid of some dumb players (Oubre for example) and added smart ones. That goes a long way

  6. snarkk said, on November 13, 2021 at 11:52 am

    Dubs have to play 20 games to get a handle on who they might be. So far they’ve played nearly all games at home against stiffs. No doubt they’re vastly improved…

  7. alleykat69 said, on November 13, 2021 at 12:33 pm

    I can see where Shanahan ends up in Minnesota taking over for Zimmer and another struggling team. He’s ALWAYS had a BONER over Cousins so now he can sit on it ..

    Its amazing the 49ers have been such a shitshow since the 2nd half 2019 meltdown to the Chiefs and blow a double digit league in the 4th quarter,they have never recovered from that unlike the Chiefs who went right back to another SB…Niners now have not won a home game since October 18,2020 over a year!!!maybe they should go back to Arizona for their home games atleast they won there..

    • unca_chuck said, on November 13, 2021 at 1:55 pm

      Chiefs went right back but lost. And they are a mess as of now as teams have figured out how to take out Hill and their deep game, and they are a defensive shit show. They may not reach the playoffs this year.

      Lynch gets to stay at least one more season. Shanahan has not gotten this team prepared properly. They have yet to play a full game and we are in week 9. Ryans also is on the hook. Saleh did a lot more with this defense with a lot less healthy guys. Ryans is not inspiring anything other than being bland and vanilla with his defense. They think that they have the guys who can get pressure with the base D but it isn’t happening and we are not making any adjustments.

      Watching the Dolphins play the Ravens Thursday night was very cool to watch. The Dolphins have the 30th ranked defense going against the top running offense in the league, so Miami put 7-9 guys on the line EVERY play, and the Ravens could neither run or pass against it and lost. 80% of the time they would send 8 guys after Jackson or stuff the running plays.

      That was a major adjustment that won Miami the game. I don’t see us doing anything to disrupt our opponents but run our base 4-3 and rarely blitz or pressure the opposing QB.

      This team has a lot of issues, but the biggest issue is the coaching.

  8. mrsprtdude said, on November 13, 2021 at 1:18 pm

    True the Warriors haven’t played the top tier, but not all stiffs either. 7 of 11 games have been against teams over .500, or would be over if you took out warriors game. A good sign.

    • unca_chuck said, on November 13, 2021 at 1:57 pm

      Yeah, Chicago is 8-4. And the Lakers and Chargers are likely playoff teams, as is Memphis.

    • snarkk said, on November 13, 2021 at 2:22 pm

      As a whole, the NBA stinks…

  9. willedav said, on November 13, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    saw column by Bill Madden of NY Daily News on Golden Era guys with last shot at HOF. Read some others on fangraphs, and really hope couple of Cubans Minnie Minoso and Tony Oliva get in. Dick Allen too, fearsome hitter.

  10. unca_chuck said, on November 13, 2021 at 4:32 pm

    Josh Norman vs OBJ

    • Winder said, on November 13, 2021 at 5:03 pm

      That might be the best entertainment of the evening for Niner fans. We are gonna get multiple pi’s anyway so might as well have some fun with it.

    • Macdog said, on November 14, 2021 at 8:17 am

      An absolutely disgraceful game by both players, they should’ve been ejected before the first quarter was over. This game even left a dark stain on Coughlin, who should’ve benched Beckham but left him out there in a desperate attempt to get a win.

  11. Flavor said, on November 13, 2021 at 5:17 pm

  12. djloo27 said, on November 13, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    Sam Huff died which probably doesn’t resonate with more than 2-3 of the guys here.
    There must be something to this death craze.
    Everybody’s doing it!

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 13, 2021 at 9:25 pm

      I remember Sam, more from his Giants days than Redskins days. He also did some TV commercials, though I don’t remember for what or who. He was kinda larger than life in some ways, way back when… Yeah, huh, everybody’s doing it. Let’s see, who else: Graeme Edge, drummer for the Moody Blues just died…

      • djloo27 said, on November 13, 2021 at 10:07 pm

        I never understood the saying “death is a part of life”
        No it’s not! It’s the fuckin end of it!

    • willedav said, on November 13, 2021 at 11:37 pm

      Jim Brown is still alive though, isn’t he?

  13. zumiee said, on November 13, 2021 at 9:27 pm

    This is nice. The Mona Lisa Twins’ cover of the Beatles’ “I’ll Be Back.”
    I consider this one of John’s finest compositions. “Only” an album track, not a single. It weaves between a major and minor key in such a pleasing way.
    And that little repeating 4 note guitar riff. Did John come up with that, too? Or maybe George or Paul, or George Martin. I wonder about that kind of thing. 🙂

  14. djloo27 said, on November 13, 2021 at 9:58 pm

    A great, great song although I don’t dig the cover much.
    Zum, how do you feel about McCartney’s despicable reaction to John’s murder?
    I realize he may have been in an incomprehensible state of despair, but still…

    • djloo27 said, on November 13, 2021 at 10:14 pm

      To me, the original implies the possibility (or threat) of vengeance…

      • unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:39 am

        John’s misogyny and insecurity is pretty well documented.

    • zumiee said, on November 14, 2021 at 1:01 am

      I don’t have any problem with McCartney’s response. He knew the media wanted a big emotional “money shot” video clip of him looking devastated, and he refused to give that to them. I actually respect that. The media wanted to exploit McCartney in that moment and he didn’t give them what they wanted.
      And regarding a funeral, there never was one anyway, so that ended up being a moot point.

      • djloo27 said, on November 14, 2021 at 9:26 am

        Zum, I can’t imagine what was going through his mind – probably in fear for his own life, too. But the nonchalant gum chewing and the “drag inn’t it?” was not a good look no matter what he was dealing with or thinking…

  15. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:40 am

    And the Crimson Tide wins by 56…

  16. willedav said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:41 am

    Twitterverse “SEC” stuff over Kansas making 2 pt conversion to beat Texas and breaking road losing streak of 56 games in big 12 conference is pretty funny. FB who caught the pass at goal line gets knocked to ground 3 times–crunched (but holds onto ball) after catching the pass, then again as 5 teammates including 0-lineman who takes flying leap at him at goal line, then after he gets up and tries flying arm lock and QB knocks him down again.

  17. alleykat69 said, on November 14, 2021 at 8:33 am

    Krukow’s Alzheimer’s is kicking in again,he wants the Giants to sign Belt to a 3 maybe 4 year contract?
    As John McEnroe says “You can’t be Serious!”

    • willedav said, on November 14, 2021 at 8:58 am

      Ha. Who would have thought Belt could be last BC still in giants uniform? In reality, might be next out the door.
      Loo has mentioned this before, odd no deal was struck sooner….?

  18. Bozo said, on November 14, 2021 at 9:10 am

    Hmm, I don’t think I’ve purposely listened to a Beatles song since my late teens and don’t recall ever listening to anyone else play their stuff, so I won’t start now. Occasionally I’ll listen to a few of John and George’s solo stuff. The Traveling Wilburys and Ringo’s All Star bands (not for Ringo but because of the all stars) hit my rotation sometimes. The Stones I really only listen to tghe stuff recorded during the Mick Taylor years anymore, but I’ll wear that shit out. The Byrds, for me is just pretty much during the Gram Parson years but I still love the Clarence White, Gene Parsons years a lot. Will still listen to Cream and Blind Faith from time to time and also their solo stuff, although I haven’t really payed much attention to Clapton in years. The Who, absolutely still favs but not so much Zep. Some Doors stuff I’ll still listen to, but not the Ray Manzarek solo LPs (I will say, those first LPs he produced for X are all classics to me. Saw him sit in with X in Concord). Will listen to a few Dead classics nothing much from the Airplane, although Hot Tuna I still love and listen to (actually thought about going up north to NJ or NY to see a double bill of Hot Tuna and the David Bromberg Quintet).
    Never liked, and can’t stand the Beach Boys or the Monkees, both of those bands irritate the shit out of me.

    • djloo27 said, on November 14, 2021 at 9:23 am

      A 67 y.o. friend of mine recently had a swell time seeing what’s left of the Monkees at a pretty major venue out on Long Island. He said Mike Nesmith looked like death to him. He’s a doctor FWIW…

      • Bozo said, on November 14, 2021 at 9:45 am

        Glad your friend had a good time, I would have been miserable or passed out. Many folks liked them, I am probably in the minority of hating everything they did. Beach Boys too and they’re still playing to large crowds.
        Jimmy Buffett is really popular but I don’t own anything by him. Although his pals, David Bromberg and Jerry Jeff Walker, I listen to all the time.

      • Bozo said, on November 14, 2021 at 9:46 am

        And I’ll be 67 in January, so about the same age as your pal.

      • djloo27 said, on November 14, 2021 at 10:49 am

        I have no desire to see a bunch of propped up geezers remind me how old I am…

  19. zumiee said, on November 14, 2021 at 9:31 am

    “John’s misogyny and insecurity is pretty well documented.”

    Documented mostly by him. John was brutally honest in interviews about his past behavior. But he did grow as a person, and became a better man. And a lot of that was because of Yoko. She challenged him to be a better person in his personal relationships.
    John only lived to be 40; we got cheated out of seeing the person he would have been in the years after that.

  20. zumiee said, on November 14, 2021 at 9:36 am

    Speaking of the Beatles, Paul has the #1 bestselling non-fiction book this week.
    And a 6 hour Beatles “Let It Be” recording sessions documentary is coming soon to….the Disney streaming service or whatever. Some service I don’t have.

  21. zumiee said, on November 14, 2021 at 9:46 am

    I’ve been reading the book “Peril,” by Woodward and Costa.
    It’s bleak. It would be hard to blame anyone for thinking the U.S. is doomed. The Founding Fathers left too many loopholes and soft spots in the Constitution. They naively believed, I guess, the nation would rarely ever elect rotten people to office.
    I choose to try to stay optimistic as a conscious choice. But that’s getting pretty hard to maintain. But, hey, every day is a new day, with potential.

  22. zumiee said, on November 14, 2021 at 9:53 am

    The Monkees should mainly be judged, in my opinion, as a TV show. That’s what they really were. I enjoyed the show many years ago, but haven’t seen it in a long time, and don’t know how well it holds up. They helped invent the music video, an art-form with an uneven history. Once MTV stopped playing music videos, it became a relatively obscure art-form again. Many recording artists still make videos, but struggle to find ways to get them seen.

    • Bozo said, on November 14, 2021 at 10:23 am

      My dislike of the Monkees was based on their recordings, I’m not sure if I ever saw their TV show.

      My post was mostly about music that was popular when I was young and if I grew away from it or not. The Monkees and Beach Boys I never cared for, the Beatles were one band I grew away from. It isn’t meant to be a judgement of the bands, just stating my preferences as the years have gone by.

      • willedav said, on November 14, 2021 at 11:23 am

        Hendrix still amazes me Muscle Shoals guys too. Singers got most of the credit, but guys behind them awesome.

      • Bozo said, on November 14, 2021 at 11:35 am

        I forgot that I also grew away from CSNY, although I still listen to Neil Young a lot.
        Yeah Willie I did forget to mention Hendrix. When I hear him it’s full attention time, kinda like a Bonds AB was for me.

  23. zumiee said, on November 14, 2021 at 10:26 am

    My favorite music video of all time. It’s fun and creative, done on a low budget when the band wasn’t huge yet. Makes references to the band’s southern roots.
    R.E.M.’s “Can’t Get There From Here.”

  24. zumiee said, on November 14, 2021 at 10:39 am

    I find it annoying when NBA, NFL, and MLB broadcasts show players walking into the building from the parking lot. A kind of fashion show runway thing. However that started, it just needs to go away. So now some players feel compelled to make fashion statements as they walk in. Just what we needed.

    • djloo27 said, on November 14, 2021 at 10:46 am

      I’m pretty sure the NY Rangers are required to report to games in a suit and tie.
      How stupid is that?
      You have to put on a suit for 15 minutes before you change for the game?
      I don’t get it…

  25. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 10:50 am

    Beatles, Zep, and Clapton just got way too overplayed in my youth. Mainly because I’m the youngest of 5 kids. But I can listen to Hendrix all day and twice on Sundays. I’ll rarely listen to Hey Jude as I really like the 2nd side. But not much else. Zep is down to Presence and Physical Graffiti as those are pretty obscure except for Kashmir. The Dead? There’s so much live stuff out there that I can throw on a good show and let it roll for a couple three hours.

    Did see Clapton live 3-4 times and the shows were always good. Layla and Blind Faith I still listen to.

    Beach Boys? Brian Wilson’s genius is lost on me. Good Vibrations is a great song tho.

    And these guys of course.

    • unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 11:08 am

      Then again, Deep Purple, Dio, Sabbath, Metallica, Megadeth, and Mastadon get lots of airplay. As do Screaming Trees, Meat Puppets, X, and the Jesus and Mary Chain.

      • Bozo said, on November 14, 2021 at 11:19 am

        I’m a huge X fan, but that came later for me, probably early 80s. The first time that I saw them was at the Berkeley Square with a girl band called the Castration Squad opening. I was hooked after that show.

    • Bozo said, on November 14, 2021 at 11:12 am

      Dang, I forgot to mention both Hendrix and the Burritos, but I agree with ya on both.

  26. Winder said, on November 14, 2021 at 11:37 am

    I still like listening to the Beatles mostly their early stuff up to Magical Mystery Tour (my favorite) because the songs bring me to a time I really enjoyed. Anyway, When the Beatles stayed in the Crown plaza in Palo Alto it was my friend that they busted for climbing up the side of the building. He almost made it to the top.

  27. Macdog said, on November 14, 2021 at 11:49 am

    A friend of mine who’s a big Monkees fan (yes, they are out there) took me to see them in NYC a few years ago. I think it was three of them there. Nice, fun show. They do have some good tunes. Friend also got me a 2-CD greatest hits of the band that also had some “deeper” cuts. I guess they did try to be an actual band at some point. Same friend is also a big Beach Boys and Beatles/McCartney fan, among others too many to mention.

  28. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 12:30 pm

    The Monkees aren’t as bad as they are made out to be but they live in the realm of 60s pop (like some of the Beatles and Beach Boys) that I have no interest in. Gimme MC5 any day.

    Kick out the jams, motherfuckers!!!!

  29. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 12:33 pm

    Punk in 1968

  30. willedav said, on November 14, 2021 at 12:49 pm

    “Look man you can listen to Jimi but you can’t hear him. There’s a difference, man. Just because you’re listening to him doesn’t mean you’re hearing him.”
    Wesley Snipes to Woody H in White Men Can’t Jump

    • unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 2:52 pm

      Still think the Star Spangled Banner at Woodstock is the most amazing thing done by a man with a guitar.

  31. Bozo said, on November 14, 2021 at 12:50 pm

    Shit, I also forgot to mention Dylan and the Band, did not grow away from them.

  32. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 1:03 pm

    Too many bands to list. Trower, Pat Travers, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads, King Crimson, Traffic, UFO, Montrose . . .

  33. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 14, 2021 at 6:24 pm

    Going down a different side path off Memory Lane…. Loo and John, you might remember this: Had a dream last night about the Horn & Hardart Automats. (Come to think of it, might be a good name for a band.) No idea where that dream came from, but loads of memories as a youngster going into the big city, and those trips always included a trip to the automat. I remember once I didn’t want to do whatever was the plan for the day, just wanted to sit there in the Horn & Hardart’s, so my grandmother volunteered to stay there with me. Just kept feeding me dimes and quarters to eat those scrumptious sandwiches and pies. Loved those places. A true piece of Americana.

    Not that any of you will watch a 6 minute vid, but what the hell. Turns out there are tons of videos and old film clips. Long live the Automat…

    • willedav said, on November 14, 2021 at 6:39 pm

      wow thanks. Never seen anything like that on left coast. Seem like cool places to hang out, especially since prices seem very reasonable, for family on road trip.

    • djloo27 said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:00 pm

      Remember em well.
      Biggest problem was parking the stagecoach…

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:21 pm

        Lulz…. Not quite a stagecoach, but we had an old Rambler station wagon that served the purpose…

      • unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:45 pm

        Hah! My mom would NEVER allow herself to drive a station wagon, so we always had Galaxies and the odd LTD. They were always convertibles. The one I miss was the 1968 Galaxie 500 with the 390. Wasn’t fast off the line, but 20 to 100 was like 3 seconds when it kicked down into passing gear. Never got to drive that one though.

  34. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    Read that whole post and I’m thinking WTF? Paulie wants to hang out in a laundromat?

    Cakes and pies. Ahhhhhhhhh…….

    Don’t even know if they ever made it out here. SF maybe? There were still a couple malt shops (Blums) in San Mateo when I was a kid, but no Automats that I remember. Blum’s had a long curving counter that must have been 75′ long.

    • willedav said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:31 pm

      At Stanford shopping center too. Grandparents who lived in Menlo Park would take us kids there. funny my younger sister remembers that place lot better than I do. But nothing like the place Paul showed.

  35. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 14, 2021 at 6:58 pm

    Love the clip of Doris Day talking through the little door to her friend preparing the food behind the wall. I don’t know, in these days of pandemics and social distancing, would be cool to see automats make a comeback.

    • willedav said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:36 pm

      Teams of families at b-ball tournaments (where I coached for ages) would have loved them. 1-2 kids/1-2 parents times 8 or 10, plus coach (me) and maybe an assistant? Trying to find a place everyone can enjoy, with parking btw games on Saturday on road, that isn’t in a Mall or expensive or buffet (yuck) style.

  36. unca_chuck said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:22 pm

    There was something called Eatsa a while back in the city. Waiterless, cashierless. Don’t know if they are still around but I think they went belly-up. They were a couple years ahead of the right time to do something like this.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 14, 2021 at 7:25 pm

      Seriously, that place coulda done well during lockdowns…

  37. djloo27 said, on November 14, 2021 at 8:17 pm

    Anyone left in Brooklyn around my age might remember “The Hand” from the early ’70’s.
    If you were desperate for a nickel bag there was a little building just off a very sketchy part of Flatbush Avenue. One side of it was a brick wall with no windows – just a one foot square hole cut out of it. You never heard a voice or saw a face. The entire transaction was done with The Hand…

    • djloo27 said, on November 14, 2021 at 8:21 pm

      The hand dispensed low quality shit.
      God knows what was in those envelopes…

    • unca_chuck said, on November 15, 2021 at 8:27 am

      Smack? Pot?

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