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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 9, 2021

We lost five Rule 5 guys yesterday. Conner Menez was the only name of note. We also lost Jon Duplantier. We had just signed him a couple of days ago and the Dodgers swiped him from us. Irritating, that guy is a former first rounder with electric stuff. Not sure of the Rule 5 rules but it’s surprising that’s allowed to happen or that a player like that isn’t protected so close to the Rule 5 draft. Three other guys I’ve never heard of got taken: Matt Seelinger, John Nogowski and Jacob Gonzalez.

We added a dude from Tampa Bay, MIchael Gigilotti. For now we’ll just call him *Giggles*. Remember Tom Gugliotta? That was a tough time to be a Warrior fan….

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  1. chipower9 said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:10 am

    Yeah, I was surprised about the Duplantier thing. Didn’t know much about him, but liked what I read on him. Menez was not a surprise. When the Giants did not protect him, I knew he would get swooped-up.

    And Gugliotta…think he was only with the Warriors a year. Don’t recall much about him, but there is probably a reason for that. 😉

    Another W for the Warriors last night.

  2. Giant Head said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:18 am

    Flodgers have to add him to their roster by the end of the year or gets returned correct?

    • Flavor said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:27 am

      yes….
      Gugliotta is who we got for Chris Webber and Todd Fuller was somehow involved in that too I think

      • willedav said, on December 9, 2021 at 7:35 am

        Fuller was guy GS drafted, 11th in first round from NC State. Total bust. Even Nelson admits the whole Webber blowup was big mistake on his part. iirc Avery Johnson was Warrior at that time and had success running screen and roll with Webber.

    • chipower9 said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:46 am

      I am unsure, Head. When you say “added to the roster” do you mean the 40 man?

  3. Bozo said, on December 9, 2021 at 7:36 am

    Since MLB is locked out this is just the MiLB draft. I think the rules for the minor league Rule 5 draft are that the team selecting has to have less than 38 on their AAA roster and players selected can be put anywhere within the selecting team’s minor league system and don’t have to be on the 40 man (I think, but not positive).
    In the major league rule 5 draft, the players selected have to be put on the 26 man roster of the selecting team, and stay on it for the season, else the player goes back to their original team.

    • Macdog said, on December 9, 2021 at 7:49 am

      Yeah, that’s what I saw on MLB.com. Article also said Giants lost the most players in the Minor League phase of the Rule 5 Draft — 7.

  4. willedav said, on December 9, 2021 at 7:40 am

    Too bad Portland TBs are so messed up; always been competitive franchise and their unis (back when there weren’t 8 of them) were great. Warmups had one solid color, black or red with long stripe in the other color arcing from shoulder down to other side, great look.

  5. willedav said, on December 9, 2021 at 7:46 am

    Puig in Korea…”I could just see how talented he was” said his new mgr. Um, yes, key word being that last one.
    However, Ruf spent 3 years over there and came back raking, so youneverknow as Joaquin Andujar said.

    • alleykat69 said, on December 9, 2021 at 8:39 am

      There is no way imo Puig ever gets back to real baseball in the bigs, teams have blackballed him now like Kapernick ..Puig’s has played in about every circuit baseball league there is now except maybe playing for the Siberian Chillin Dogs of the cold front independence league..

  6. willedav said, on December 9, 2021 at 8:18 am

    Flavor is right, trade was Gugs and 3 first round picks, first of which was Todd Fuller, for Webber, after first season when he averaged 17 and 9 and shot 55% from floor. Don’t really remember Webb’s 3 years in Washington before he went to Sac.
    Warriors traded Gugs shortly thereafter for Donyell Marshall, cool player.

  7. willedav said, on December 9, 2021 at 8:33 am

    GS team 93-94 was fun with interesting mix of guys, and won 50 games before losing first round to Suns..
    Big Vic Alexander from Iowa State, as was Jeff Grayer
    Dell Demps from Pacific who later became a GM
    Mister Jennings, 5-7 guard
    Avery Johnson from Southern U
    Todd Lichti, local guy from Stanford
    Billy Owens, yikes. Acquired from Sac in Mitch Richmond trade when Nelson broke up Run TMC then traded to Heat for Rony Seikaly yikes again
    Warriors of 94-95 won 26 games without Webber and Nelson was gone.

  8. unca_chuck said, on December 9, 2021 at 9:45 am

    They did get Antawn Jamison in 1998. Had some good seasons on a terrible team. Man, those were ugly days.

  9. alleykat69 said, on December 9, 2021 at 10:17 am

    Liked that 2001 draft when they drafted 2 guards 1st rd Jason Richardson and 2nd rd steal Gilbert Arenas.Thought they would be set for years, unfortunately Arenas fled after only 2 years, I’m not sure if it was a money 💰 scenario after being drafted in the 2nd but truly was 1st rd value and found an opt out?Anyway it was a huge loss at the time imo..

    • willedav said, on December 9, 2021 at 10:30 am

      Arenas made half a mil in second year with GS, then signed with Washington as FA for $8.5 mil Hella player, loved him at Arizona. Averaged 20 a game over his career and was just getting going with Warriors.

      Antawn J was in 3 ball shooting contest when All Star game was held in Oaktown. His partner was Jen Azzi; coaching friend of mine knew her really well (and was big Tar Heels fan) and btw us we arranged for Ms. Azzi to shoot around at Paly one night where I was an assistant. My friend got to go to AS festivities too.

  10. willedav said, on December 9, 2021 at 10:40 am

    Big day for Jersey college b-ball teams. Seton Hall hosts #7 Texas on FS1 followed by 7-1 Monmouth Hawks at St. Johns on same network. In btw Rutgers hosts #1 Purdue in Big 10 matchup.

    • Macdog said, on December 9, 2021 at 11:11 am

      Yeah, gonna be a lotta channel-flipping. RU’s not a good team right now, I can’t see them beating Purdue. MU knocked off Cincy last week, hope they can do the same at Louie C Arena.

      • djloo27 said, on December 9, 2021 at 2:39 pm

        Ever see Phil Sellers play?

      • Macdog said, on December 9, 2021 at 2:52 pm

        Loo, I didn’t. Never saw Rutgers play at their old barn of a gym, before they moved to the RAC.

  11. djloo27 said, on December 9, 2021 at 10:44 am

    Think this guy was on a pitch count in 1879?

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/whitewi01.shtml

  12. Bozo said, on December 9, 2021 at 11:30 am

    That is just crazy. Besides the 680 IP, he also started 75 games and had 75 complete games.
    Now that dude was a horse.

  13. Winder said, on December 9, 2021 at 11:38 am

    One of the best folk singers of all time IMO.

    • chipower9 said, on December 9, 2021 at 1:06 pm

      I had never heard of her, either. Very nice.

    • Bozo said, on December 9, 2021 at 1:20 pm

      Nice.

    • chipower9 said, on December 9, 2021 at 1:25 pm

      This young lady, IMO, is also one of the best (not sure you can classify her as pure “folk” because she plays across many genres).

      • Winder said, on December 9, 2021 at 2:05 pm

        Tru dat- She had a big blues sound throughout her career. I think of her as mostly folk because she did a lot of her early stuff with just a guitar.

      • Winder said, on December 9, 2021 at 2:12 pm

        That is nice I don’t know how to really classify it either but whatever it is I could listen to that for awhile. Has a lot of folk, country, and new wave sounds.

        My first comment was for Judy Roderick.

    • snarkk said, on December 9, 2021 at 4:03 pm

      What about Alison Kraus? She’s got a great voice.
      Dunno if you consider her country only or also some folk crossover?
      I’ve heard some cuts from her new album with Robert Plant — sounds like a crazy combo, but it seems to work…

      • Winder said, on December 9, 2021 at 5:25 pm

        I have always thought of her as mostly blue grass but I have heard some of the things she did with Plant. She is a pro at what she does.

  14. unca_chuck said, on December 9, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    Very cool. Never heard of her.

  15. unca_chuck said, on December 9, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    Giants traded $$$ for Tanner Andrews of the Braves. He just had TJ surgery so he’ll miss all of 2022.

    • snarkk said, on December 9, 2021 at 3:06 pm

      Did Farhan take Trent Baalke into the Front Office? …

  16. snarkk said, on December 9, 2021 at 4:01 pm

    I wonder what the Rule 5 “stick” rate is?
    That is, how many of them actually stick with the teams that pluck them, and are not returned before the season ends to their original team?…

  17. unca_chuck said, on December 9, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    Real sad to hear Robbie Shakespeare passed away yesterday. He was an amazing bass player with his partner drummer Sly Dunbar to form the rhythm section for a ton of reggae bands from the 70s through the present, including Black Uhuru, one of my favorite reggae bands back in the day.

    Natty Dreadlock

    • willedav said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:47 pm

      Loved them Michael Rose Puma. First cut I ever heard (KRE from Berkeley) was Party in Session going on next door

  18. Macdog said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:26 pm

    Wille, Rutgers wins at buzzer! Ron Harper Jr. hit a heave from just inside halfcourt to win. Three lead changes in final :20+, Purdue took 1-point lead with 3.4 left before Harper’s shot. Great game.

    • willedav said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:46 pm

      yeah got em! Hall held off Texas too down stretch

    • willedav said, on December 10, 2021 at 6:51 am

      Monmouth gave Johnnies all they could handle. Game came down to FTs in last seconds, good for them. Props to their coach King Rice for continuing to put winning team on floor. Sure they have big market to recruit from, but with all the big time schools nearby he isn’t getting top guys to come play in MAAC. so he has to make who he has work within his system, and adjust his system to fit talent of who he can get, plus any transfers he can attract.

  19. Flavor said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:34 pm

    Ho–Lee—Shit

    • Winder said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:58 pm

      Wow, how fun.

    • snarkk said, on December 10, 2021 at 12:47 am

      Cool, for a superspreader…

  20. Flavor said, on December 9, 2021 at 6:37 pm

    this is why we love sports.

  21. Flavor said, on December 9, 2021 at 7:14 pm

    cool pic

    • Bozo said, on December 10, 2021 at 8:06 am

      Great shot.
      The last place I lived at in SF was at 17th and Texas. So, sometimes I’d hit the Safeway that’s there now and occasionally have an adult beverage or two at The Double Play bar.

      • unca_chuck said, on December 10, 2021 at 2:22 pm

        They should have just added an upper deck to that place. But the grift was too omnipresent in SF.

        Kezar Pub is still around as well. Went there with my dad and his drunk-ass friends after a Niner game in 1968 as a 7 year old, and then last year with Garrett. Time-warp city.

  22. Macdog said, on December 9, 2021 at 7:14 pm

    • djloo27 said, on December 9, 2021 at 7:58 pm

      The Sake-Man…

      • Bozo said, on December 10, 2021 at 8:08 am

        Ha, great call.

  23. alleykat69 said, on December 9, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    Former Bronco’s WR Demaryius Thomas dead at 33..
    Caught the game winning TD in OT against the Steelers in a playoff game from a pass from Tim Tebow of all people.. RIP Demaryius way to young!

  24. Flavor said, on December 10, 2021 at 8:15 am

    This would be a great framed pic (or better yet a painting) to hang in my house

    • willedav said, on December 10, 2021 at 8:41 am

      Indeed, great pic. Glad the Cuban Comet got in; unfortunate it didn’t come while he was still alive. Old Sox uni and hat were classics.

    • snarkk said, on December 10, 2021 at 10:36 am

      I got a groin pull just looking at this…

  25. willedav said, on December 10, 2021 at 8:45 am

    FCS playoff football game on today. Always admired their system, going back to when it was called 1-AA. they take 16 teams and whittle down to final 2 by playing each weekend in Dec. Meanwhile, FBS teams with conference titles already decided last week won’t play again until CFP/Bowl games.

  26. willedav said, on December 10, 2021 at 4:53 pm

    Slush says Giants signed Alex Blandino to minor league deal. Let go by Reds for whom he’s played parts of 3 seasons, slash line in 234 ABs: .226/.339/.291 for .630 OPS, with 2 HRs/11 XBHs total. 4 years of AAA ball OPS of .740.
    :Local guy, RH from St. Francis HS of Mt. View and Stanford.

  27. djloo27 said, on December 10, 2021 at 9:04 pm

    I have no holiday spirit whatsoever.
    I don’t feel it anywhere here…

    • djloo27 said, on December 10, 2021 at 9:20 pm

      It isn’t just me.
      It no longer exists…

    • Macdog said, on December 11, 2021 at 9:19 am

      • djloo27 said, on December 11, 2021 at 9:57 am

        Thanks, Mac…

  28. willedav said, on December 11, 2021 at 7:37 am

    Great read if you follow replies in twitter thread on that pic Flav posted of Seals Stadium. Couple guys mention Double Play, Safeway, DiMaggio playing there (only Joe?) and how much the O resembles it. Also someone shared great pic of Hamms Brewery. remember their commercials airing during Niner games on TV, Falstaff too.

    • Winder said, on December 11, 2021 at 8:48 am

      San Francisco is such a great city and has a rich history. I will always remember that Hamms beer sign on top that you could see from most places in the city. The Russian population was a real tight nit group and some of the food in the local deli’s was fantastic when I was a kid.

    • Bozo said, on December 11, 2021 at 9:11 am

      I’m pretty sure all the DiMaggio brothers played on the Seals, so they must have played there. The Double Play is a great old school SF sports bar. I’ve never eaten there but I have friends that would meet there for drunken lunches. IMO it’s worth a stop if you find yourself in the neighborhood.

      • Bozo said, on December 11, 2021 at 9:12 am

        Ya can’t go wrong with a shot and a beer.

  29. willedav said, on December 11, 2021 at 9:33 am

    Dom DiMaggio (youngest of 3 ball playing bros) played 11 seasons for Red Sox, with .298 career BA and .800 OPS. Missed 3 years during WWII and reputedly fine OF too.

    Nice story on Beede in Athletic (as part of long Gammons column) making progress and training in Florida place where he has gone in past. Has a fine looking black glove (orange laces) in pic. Black shoes always a good look.

  30. alleykat69 said, on December 11, 2021 at 10:17 am

    Beede’s career has always been a work in progress.Unfortunately the work is always going in the wrong direction! Then again there was a time I was feeling the same way about Logan Webb who shocked the baseball world and became one of the best pitchers in baseball from May thru the playoffs..
    Still just for Sandog ever optimistic approach on him, here’s hoping 🤞 Beede’s final stand turns out better then Custer’s at Little Bighorn.
    Giants still looking to fill pitching depth in SP that will eat more innings up,whether it’s Beede,Long, maybe Manute Bol Hejelie breaks thru are someone else Z/H are working on after the lockout ends..

  31. zumiee said, on December 11, 2021 at 10:37 am

    This is such a great book. One of the best baseball book’s I’ve read. It has so much great stuff about the brothers’ time playing ball for the Seals.
    The older brother Frank was the trailblazer for the boys, going against their father’s strong resistance to pro baseball. The father changed his tune eventually when it became clear how talented the three brothers were.
    Frank was never a major league star, like Joe and Dom, but he had an OK, though mostly now forgotten, MLB career.

    • zumiee said, on December 11, 2021 at 10:42 am

      Vince DiMaggio, I meant. Not Frank.

    • willedav said, on December 11, 2021 at 11:00 am

      yes, very good read. Glad you posted this didn’t remember title/author.
      Zum, just started John Feinstein’s “Raise a Fist/Take a Knee”, off to good start as he regales stories from first black QBs of NFL and what they went through.

      • zumiee said, on December 11, 2021 at 11:09 am

        I’ll look for that. I like that author.

  32. zumiee said, on December 11, 2021 at 10:48 am

    From Wikipedia:
    “Giuseppe hoped that his five sons would become fishermen. DiMaggio recalled that he would do anything to get out of cleaning his father’s boat, as the smell of dead fish nauseated him. Giuseppe called him “lazy” and “good-for-nothing.” DiMaggio did not finish his education at Galileo High School and instead worked odd jobs including hawking newspapers, stacking boxes at a warehouse and working at an orange juice plant.
    DiMaggio was playing semi-pro ball when older brother Vince, playing for the San Francisco Seals of the Pacific Coast League (PCL), talked his manager into letting DiMaggio fill in at shortstop.”

    • zumiee said, on December 11, 2021 at 10:50 am

      That’s from an article about Joe.

      • Winder said, on December 11, 2021 at 11:24 am

        Joe had a son who lived in a tiny trailer out by the Martinez dump. I read somewhere that he and his dad never got along.

  33. zumiee said, on December 11, 2021 at 10:53 am

    Joe had an insanely successful MLB career. 10 championships in 13 seasons, or something like that. Only outdone by Bill Russell’s 11 NBA championships in 13 seasons, or something like that.

  34. zumiee said, on December 11, 2021 at 10:57 am

    The Warriors are on a national ABC broadcast tonight.

  35. willedav said, on December 11, 2021 at 11:05 am

    Dec 11 b-day of McCoy Tyner born 1938 passed March 2020. Walked into book store this AM to hear powerful chords behind Coltrane on Out of This World, first song on wonderful Impulse LP. Tyner was sideman and led his recordings for many years on Blue Note and other labels. Fortunate enough to have seen him play couple times, including trio set at the old Yoshi’s on Claremont.

  36. Macdog said, on December 11, 2021 at 11:57 am

    Heading into NYC with a buddy to see a Jesse Malin concert, should be fun. I was just channel-surfing and MLB Network is showing Timmy’s 2nd no-hitter from ’14 season, if anyone’s interested.

    • djloo27 said, on December 11, 2021 at 1:04 pm

      You packin some heat?
      Or at least pepper spray and a glove mallet?

    • willedav said, on December 11, 2021 at 3:31 pm

      Bruce Jenkins said he put him on his HOF ballot.

  37. mrsprtdude said, on December 11, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    Recorded the no no. Nostalgic.
    Crazy to think Timmy was drafted the same year as Kershaw.
    06 1st round
    Luke Hochevar
    Gregory Reynolds
    Longoria
    Brad Lincoln
    Brandon Morrow
    Andrew Miller
    Kershaw
    Robert Stubbs
    William Rowel
    Timmy Lincecum
    Scherzer

    Of 1st 11 2 1st ballot HOF’s, 2 multiple All stars in Longo and Lincecum, and Miller was a stud for a 3-4 year stretch too.
    Baltimore drafted Rowel. Sure the GM’s who drafted 1,2,4,8,9 sees lists like this and cries!

    • unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2021 at 4:47 pm

      Longo, Scherzer, Kershaw and Timmy in the first 11? Not bad.

  38. zumiee said, on December 11, 2021 at 6:14 pm

    “Joe had a son who lived in a tiny trailer out by the Martinez dump. I read somewhere that he and his dad never got along.”

    Joe, Jr. had substance abuse problems, and he and Joe, Sr. became estranged.
    Among Joe, Sr.’s friends it was understood to never mention Joe, Jr. around Joe, Sr.
    I think Joe, Sr. regretted naming his son Joe DiMaggio, Jr. The name was too big a burden for someone to carry around. Mickey Mantle later regretted naming his son Mickey, Jr.
    When Joe, Sr. died, Joe, Jr. took his share of the inheritance money, bought a bunch of heroin or something as deadly, and overdosed and died.

  39. alleykat69 said, on December 11, 2021 at 6:55 pm

    Sad to hear of the passing of Monkees Singer/Songwriter Michael Nesmith Friday at the age of 78 due to heart failure..
    He recently got together with Mickey Dolenz( now the last remaining Monkee)to perform at the Greek Theater in LA and though he was frail he still was a trooper and went out with utmost class! Last 3 songs they performed were Stepping Stone, Day Dream Believer ( which Mickey yelled out hey Davy you listening?) and I’m a Believer with Mickey &Michael sang together..

    Trivia..One song he wrote was Different Drum that turned out to be a huge hit for Linda Ronstadt..RIP Michael

  40. unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2021 at 9:30 pm

    If you haven’t seen the Monkees movie Head, it is fucking crazy. Weird-ass movie. Even for 1968. I liked the show, and their music was on par with the early Beatles in my mind, so it was OK. But the cameos are great. Jack Nicholson wrote it, and Frank Zappa is in it, so there’s got to be something to that. Carol Doda as well. Sonny Liston, bunch of other people. Story was, this was on way to kill their TV show as they were tired of the hoopla and this effective;y killed their show and their popularity.

  41. unca_chuck said, on December 11, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    And, floating out there on the interwebs are pics of Jimi Hendrix and the Monkees on a sailboat before Hendrix’s ill-fated 1st US tour.


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