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KB Gonna Cost Too Much

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 16, 2022

I supported the Kris Bryant trade and it was mildly successful I guess, but here’s why I hope they don’t resign him:

At least we aren’t A’s fans. Chapman to the BlueJays. If I were an A’s fan I’d never go to another game again (tho that’s pretty easy for me to say/do).

They’ll probably move to Vegas soon.

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  1. willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 6:07 am

    Fair enough, but sample size of Estrada as major league hitter is quite small compared to Bryant. As of next year Giants will need another starting 1b and 3b, and they don’t have ML ready options among prospects. Luciano might grow himself out of IF altogether and rest of good hitters are all OF now.

    Bryant’s biggest issue imo was he wasn’t next Marco Scutaro (who did have only one good half season in SF) and living up to expectations.

    Yes, sadly, A’s doing what A’s do again, letting go of good young players once they get pricey.

  2. Bozo said, on March 16, 2022 at 6:54 am

    After the lock out, we still have some teams already tanking the season. Yep, it seems the A’s business strategy is to be the best minor league team out there, but it also looks like the Reds are going to give them a run for their money, or should that be, lack of money. I read where Griff’s deferred dollars for 2009-2024, will make him the 5th or 6th highest paid player on the Reds this year, that is fucking obscene, and we’re only talking about $3.6 or something like that. Nothing like trying to win back fans for those cities after the owners were collective dickheads.

  3. xoot said, on March 16, 2022 at 6:57 am

    I’m pessimistic. Oklnd = Las Vegas.

  4. Giant Head said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:00 am

    Having trouble posting so hopefully not the third reply. Just noting we did not get Suzuki…

    • Giant Head said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:02 am

      Is Castellanos worth pursuing??? We need a bat. Suzuki went for more than expected so I can see why Farhan did not chase that rabbit down its hole…

      • willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:13 am

        I don’t, though no way to know what Giants offered and if they had room to negotiate. But dang, Suzuki 27 with years of experience behind him and he’s won gold glove as corner OF in NPB. Likely not going to hit for as much power, but projects as decent enough middle order bat. Remember, Giants are replacing one middle order bat lost in Posey, with Casali and Bart. Suzuki imo would have fit perfectly, for years to come.

        Castellanos (by any metrics crummy OF) turned down $$ from Reds by opting out, and ain’t gonna have any cheaper AAV.

  5. Giant Head said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:01 am

    And re tanking this what the players were arguing about teams not committing to spending on competitive salaries depressing the overall payroll levels.

  6. willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:04 am

    Castellanos last season had almost Coors like splits.
    At home in Cincy, 1.109 OPS 23 HRs ..702 slugging
    On road in almost same # ABs, .772 OPS, 11 HRs, .454 slugging
    hmmnn

  7. unca_chuck said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:37 am

    Funny to read that the richest contract in A’s history was the Eric Chavez $66 million deal.

    In 2004.

    • Flavor said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:56 am

      A’s fans are perpetually hoodwinked by their billionaire owner who claims he can’t compete with the big boys. What a fucking joke.

      • willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:01 am

        It’s too bad for fans. Used to go there (before Beane days) with buddy of mine, take Bart from Fremont, to see A’s and AL players/teams. Yanks and Boston transplant fans used to show up big time; Giants fans helped pack the place last year.

      • unca_chuck said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:35 pm

        As he pockets all the revenue sharing money.

      • unca_chuck said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:40 pm

        Been to 4 A’s games over the last 50 years. Once to see Ted Williams managing the Senators, once was with my brother in law, who brought a pony keg to the bleachers and my 12 year old self had my first few beers, once to see Jeffrey Leonard on the Mariners, and one was a free ticket with some friends from work. Height of the bash brother days. 35,000 people. Back and forth exciting game that the A’s won. , The loudest cheering by a land slide was for the dot racing.

        The fans didn’t seen to be aware of what was actually happening on the field. It was weird to say the least.

  8. James said, on March 16, 2022 at 9:25 am

    The absence of Posey seems less a problem than the 2021 numbers of Crawford, Belt, Ruf, and Longoria. Those don’t look reproducible to me. If that group really drops off significantly, whoever they add won’t make that much of a difference. I’m guessing that’s why Zaidi hesitates to pay the big bucks for another bat. A reminder that what any single player adds is the difference between his output and his lesser replacement.

  9. Winder said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:05 am

    Looks like we are going with our minor league bats which might not be a bad idea. Pitching and defense win championships.

  10. willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:11 am

    Aug 20-22, 3 game weekend series SF @ Oakland, A’s drew 106 thou, with high of 40 thou Friday night. A’s won that one 4-1, Giants won last 2 (6-5 and 2-1) on late PH bombs by Wade Jr. Saturday and Solano Sunday. McGee saved both games btw.

    • djloo27 said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:41 am

      It’s all about the awesome trophy for me…

  11. Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:17 am

    Too bad the Giants play the A’s only four times this season instead of six.

    • djloo27 said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:36 am

      Do you like Conforto for us Mac if the years and money aren’t too ridiculous?

      • Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:41 am

        Another lefty OF bat, not sure about him, unless as you said they can get him at something reasonable.

  12. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:20 am

    Guess Chuck was right even with Z’s past relationship with the A’s Beane will never deal with the Giants!
    Chapman are Olson would of been a cornerstone piece to get at 2 positions in desperate need of an upgrade.
    Then to back to the lip service again when it comes to Suzuki with money to easily handle his contract, I’m just disappointed that the cubbard is bare,and Z is banking on the likes of Slater,GD,Vosler’s,LaStella’s of the world to produce.Is it really that difficult when you have the spare coin to get involved with an immediate upgrade in need?
    Just go ahead and let the Bums add Freeman &Castellanos as well,what do we need them for?

  13. djloo27 said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:42 am

    Anybody like Soler?

    • alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:53 am

      Anybody but the Giants do…
      There done only scrubs left, maybe they go all in for Pujols lol 😂

  14. Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 10:44 am

    Alex Dickerson to Braves for 1Y $1M.

  15. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 11:01 am

    Anybody interested in Trevor Story to play 2B?

  16. zumiee said, on March 16, 2022 at 11:22 am

    “Whenever our President speaks I can only think of this…”

    It’s so great to have a sane person as president.

  17. snarkk said, on March 16, 2022 at 11:22 am

    At least he’s not recommending we ingest bleach to beat a Covid infection.
    And, in my book, he’s kicking Putin’s ass re: Ukraine, where the previous occupant of the Oval Office worked hard to dismantle NATO and was/is a Putin puppet…

    • djloo27 said, on March 16, 2022 at 12:02 pm

      Wasn’t meant to start political stuff.
      I’ll take it down…

  18. snarkk said, on March 16, 2022 at 11:28 am

    About time we see how these supposed OF prospects of the Giants do in the Big Leagues. I’ve seen pretty much enough of AAAA guys like Duggar and Slater, let’s try some new ones…

  19. snarkk said, on March 16, 2022 at 11:31 am

    As for the A’s, they’ll be getting rid of some more veterans, no doubt.
    How anyone can remain a fan of that franchise and continue give it money is beyond me.
    If there are still actually season ticket holders, they need a mass Intervention…

    • Winder said, on March 16, 2022 at 11:51 am

      I used to get so pissed at Stoneham for doing a lot of the same stuff.

  20. willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 11:53 am

    It will be interesting to see how Kap navigates DH in lineup every day. Since SF already has wilmet and ruf, couple defensive liabilities anywhere except 1b, I don’t think adding a Soler type to mix fits Z/Kap flexibility platooney mode. Bottom line, platooney ball did pretty well last year.

  21. willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 12:06 pm

    During that A’s series Dickerson was DH in 2 of the games and Posey once.
    Final game Kap started LHs and then replaced them (Yaz Wade Jr. La Stella) with Solano Slater Ruf.

  22. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 12:36 pm

    Toronto BlueJays starting LU is just downright scary!
    Starting infield of 3B Chapman, SS Bichette,2B Biggio,1B Guerrero C Jansen
    Outfielders Springer, Hernandez DH,Gurriel,Grichuk,etc.. just reeks of offense and power from this starting 9

  23. xoot said, on March 16, 2022 at 1:18 pm

    did I read that correctly: Donnie Barrels to Cincy?

    • Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 1:39 pm

  24. Flavor said, on March 16, 2022 at 3:26 pm

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    • Winder said, on March 16, 2022 at 3:42 pm

      Wow. Lots of money but he’s probably gonna do real well there.

    • Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 3:55 pm

      Good for Bryant, he’ll put up gaudy numbers but never get near the World Series again.

    • snarkk said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:38 pm

      His poor wife will need to contact Bekins again.
      I’m glad he’s not coming back. I was not impressed with his short stint with the Giants.
      He’s jack of multiple positions but master of none. Yeah, he’ll get inflated hitting numbers there, like he did at Wrigley…

    • djloo27 said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:07 pm

      He’ll probably torture us…

  25. Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:03 pm

    For Bryant, Barrels and Dick:

  26. Winder said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:28 pm

    We just landed Pederson.

    Jon Morosi of MLB.com reports that the Giants have reached an agreement with free agent outfielder Joc Pederson.
    Joctober heads to the Bay Area. It’s been a tumultuous offseason, filled with numerous high-profile departures, but Pederson represents a massive upgrade for the Giants’ corner outfield spots. The 29-year-old righty-masher should benefit from Oracle Park’s new lefty slugger-friendly dimensions and represents a decent late-round option for fantasy managers in deeper mixed

    • Flavor said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:31 pm

      excellent. Bombs away.

  27. Giant Head said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:38 pm

    Congrats to KB got his money and glad we are not spending that dough. I thought maybe 5 years $100 mill but Rockies have to do something crazy.

  28. Giant Head said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:40 pm

    Farhan dumpster diving for Joc…lefty DH when needed.

  29. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:49 pm

    Wow crazy money 7/182 good for KB, No way the Giants get in on that action.I was expecting him to go to the Phillies with his buddy Harper, but nobody was going to touch that insane contract the Rockies threw at him.Enjoy the cellar with the D-backs Kris.

    Joc Pederson..meh for me when u already have a shitload of LH bats.Guess u can slide him into some DH AB’s ? Just not a huge fan of this punk, maybe Kap will have to beat the shit out of him once to keep him in line..

    • willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 6:30 pm

      Gotta hope the Captain keeps him in line.
      And that cubic zirconia thing from 2020 will never be seen in public.

  30. unca_chuck said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:53 pm

    Not quite Brady coming home to the Niners, but why the fuck not? Never liked Pederson but he’ll run into one more than enough. I hope.

    Better than Limp Dick Dick Dick.

    KB? Laugh all the way to Rocky Mountain Savings and Loan, pal.

  31. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 4:57 pm

    Only a 1 year deal for 6 million for Joc, that works in the Z dumpster dive atleast.
    Still wish they would of got a RH power bat, but maybe Ramos will get his shot soon..

  32. xoot said, on March 16, 2022 at 5:09 pm

    I think Joc’s a good fit right now. The pearls are dumb, but so is the Capt’s hat. If they rake, how can you care? Keep the knothole cave in RF closed off from the evening winds.

  33. Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 5:33 pm

    As someone tweeted, Pederson has played on the last two World Series champs.

    • willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 6:39 pm

      Not exactly like he helped the Braves much. Went 1-15 in WS. 9-44 overall for ATL postseason.

      • Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:30 pm

        He’ll be our next Pat Burrell?

  34. Giant Head said, on March 16, 2022 at 5:49 pm

    Reading Meadows is available from the Rays, no idea what they want from him, but he would be far superior than Joc. If we don’t pursue Castellanos then Ramos has to be given a shot to be the everyday starter in left and see if he is big league material or not.

  35. James said, on March 16, 2022 at 6:38 pm

    Just looked up the origin of the term “platoon.” Apparently it was adopted from football, which employed it to describe the separate teams for offense and defense.

    Zaidi has passed Belt as my favorite Giant.

    • paul sorensen said, on March 16, 2022 at 6:52 pm

      And also coming from the French ‘peloton’ and ‘pelota’, meaning “small ball”. So when Jon Miller does his HR call, is he really saying bye bye platoon? Hmmm…

      • James said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:13 pm

        Our platoon is here to stay . . . .

      • paul sorensen said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:29 pm

        I know. But a guy can dream….

  36. paul sorensen said, on March 16, 2022 at 6:54 pm

    I am obviously not well clued in to MLB salaries and/or players’ individual worth. Bryant gets $26m a year, Joc gets $6m a year? That just seems like a crazy discrepancy, even more so because I’d rather have Joc than KB anyway.

  37. djloo27 said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:04 pm

    Number of times Joc has hit .250 in his career: ZERO

    Numbers at SF are better (scroll down a little):

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/tools/split_stats.cgi?full=1&params=site%7CSFO03%7Cpederjo01%7Cbat%7CAB%7C

    Graduated Palo Alto High!

    • Flavor said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:12 pm

      yes. We played on the same field although juuuuuust a few years apart.

    • James said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:12 pm

      But he’s hit over 250 against RHers multiple seasons!

  38. willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:10 pm

    Rutgers on pace to score about 90, Harper Jr. lighting up Irish. Tremendous block by #5 at rim.

    • Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:29 pm

      McConnell (22) is having a great game.

    • willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:15 pm

      ouch second half in 14 minutes they have 6 hoops and 5 turnovers.

      • Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:34 pm

        Onto OT.

  39. Flavor said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:30 pm

    Joc is perfect for our team. We’re the Platoon Kings.

  40. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 7:58 pm

    I don’t see any scenario where Grave Digger gets many AB’s..

    • willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:17 pm

      probably still best defensive CF. If this is all they do, I’d imagine he gets starts there vs. RHP (with Yaz and Wade Jr.) and Joc is DH.

  41. djloo27 said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:34 pm

    Wade and Bart are the key guys, I’d say…

    • willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:39 pm

      I think what James said at 9:25 is pretty important. Regression from older guys Belt Crawford Longoria and Ruf would hurt. Would take a lot from others to make up for it.

    • alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:47 pm

      For sure the pressure will be on Bart, you can’t replace Posey’s experience and bat,Bart is going to need a lot of time adjusting to the pitching staff.His 1st career Giants homer may help him relax though?

  42. willedav said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    OT Rutgers-Irish play in game.

  43. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:37 pm

    Great play in game going into OT.
    I have Rutgers winning it , just thought they’re more athletic, but Norte Dame’s bigs are keeping them in it.Typical March Madness,.

  44. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    Mmm

  45. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:51 pm

    Damm Double OT wow!!

  46. Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 8:51 pm

    Onto 2OT.

  47. Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 9:03 pm

    Damn.

  48. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    Wow tough loss for Rutgers as Atkinson for Norte Dame was a savage inside and muscles up the winner 89-87 with 2.7 seconds left

  49. djloo27 said, on March 16, 2022 at 9:17 pm

    Freeman’s a fuckin’ Dodger…

    • Winder said, on March 16, 2022 at 9:29 pm

      You just knew it was gonna happen.

      • Macdog said, on March 16, 2022 at 9:35 pm

        Yep, it was inevitable.

  50. alleykat69 said, on March 16, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    Yeah it’s ridiculous they’re is no salary cap.The rich get richer.
    Both the NY teams sit at the top with over 230 million spent , the Dodgers third at 220 million
    The Giants sit at #13 128 million so basically 6 million over the average of 122 million and standing pat..


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