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Farhan Can Be So Lame

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 19, 2022

Genuinely discouraged and disappointed in Farhan. Jesus Christ you don’t keep up with the elite teams in the league by signing fucking Joc Pederson and Matt Boyd. Sure, Rondon was nice but they have so much money to spend and they blew it. They sat around and dime stored their way to doing almost nothing.


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  1. mrsprtdude said, on March 19, 2022 at 9:11 am

    100% Mad they didn’t sign Suzuki or another right handed bat. Frustrating

    • Flavor said, on March 19, 2022 at 9:18 am

      Even a guy like Castellanos. Sure, I wasn’t super high on him but fuck it, he would have improved the offense and we had $$$$ to burn. With the DH this year we could have easily fit Casty into the mix. Shit, Philly signed BOTH Casty and Schwarbs. Farhan is dicking around for no reason.

  2. Winder said, on March 19, 2022 at 9:16 am

    A year ago at this time I was begging them to just cut loose the bore core. Now I am counting on them to produce somewhat similar to last year. We are a very old young team. Who knows. It’s still mostly about pitching to me.

  3. willedav said, on March 19, 2022 at 9:58 am

    Really surprised Carolina carving up defending Champ Baylor’s d, finding holes inside/knockin down 3s outside. Bears look disoriented on offense, poor shot selection and rash of turnovers. Down 13 at half 42-29.

  4. willedav said, on March 19, 2022 at 10:06 am

    Lot of talk Z being hamstrung on payroll by ownership, which seems odd. Think James may be right, he just doesn’t see good fit for big upgrade offensively, yet, and is ready to reward last year group (the one with all those bombs/runs) with another look at what they can do (minus Posey). I would have preferred adding solid RH every day bat in lineup. of course if there is serious regression by offense pitching will have to be stellar.

  5. alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 10:11 am

    Yeah North Carolina is just swarming all over the court, winning loose balls,getting great Defense in your face matchups.
    Winning the rebound total, forcing 8 turnovers, and this kid Davis knocking down 3’s and averages 13 a game but has 17 already at the half.

  6. willedav said, on March 19, 2022 at 10:16 am

    Meanwhile, Z talks glowingly about Pederson, guy he’s always liked since they both joined LA. Also says they are about set for position players according to Baggs in Athletic today. Z said doesn’t see who they would drop off roster if they were to add someone. Sounds like he’s happy to go to war with who he’s got.

    • alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 10:37 am

      Yeah Willied, KNBR podcast the other day Z, basically said it’s addition by subtraction, meaning u add a player but at what cost for bats for players like GD and Slater are for LH batters as well? Huh?
      Anyway he likes what he has going forward.Even numbnuts Pederson made a point how he brought in guys to LA that instantly produced, and when Z moved to SF he was thinking 4-5 years for him to turn around the Giants and he did it in 2.. And of course he had to add the stupid every other year W/S which was 8 years ago, so that theory is losing luster to me fast..

  7. alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 10:22 am

    Just can’t see why you’re HAMSTRUNG with your payroll when your sitting at 145million and shrinking sitting at 13th in total payroll,and the cap is 230 million? That’s 85 million to use for a RH Bat and you can still move money around I assume to increase that.
    How in the hell do the Dodgers,Mets,and Yankees sitting above maximum cap get away with this shit, just pay over cap penalties? I’m confused 🤔

  8. blade3colorado said, on March 19, 2022 at 10:30 am

    Just my take, but you’re blaming the wrong guy (Z) . . . He is a GM, not an owner. A baseball GM has to understand the general goals and targets of ownership, and come up with exceptionally smart and savvy strategies to put the right team together. Johnson primarily and the rest of the ownership group – control the purse strings . . . not Z.

    • xoot said, on March 19, 2022 at 12:50 pm

      agreed. Johnson’s interest is now in his son’s hands, I believe.

  9. James said, on March 19, 2022 at 11:15 am

    Despite their 21 stats, no one is going to take Longoria, Belt, or Crawford in a trade. Ruf and Pederson project to be reasonable facsimiles of Castellanos and Schwarber. Get rid of Wilmer? Who should they have signed or traded for and with what? Chapman’s OPS last year was 716 with 202 Ks. Presumably Bryant at 7 years and Freeman at six would have made little sense.

    Suzuki was the one deal I question Zaidi on. But even that signing would have done little to counter LA’s roster. Big $$$ for Bryant and Suzuki?

    • Giant Head said, on March 19, 2022 at 11:44 am

      Sorry Ruf and Joc pale in comparison to Castellanos and Schwarber…

      • James said, on March 19, 2022 at 11:53 am


  10. Giant Head said, on March 19, 2022 at 11:41 am

    Castellanos only $100 mill for 5 years. If Farhan was not willing to surpass that for the much needed right handed power bat we all know has been needed for years makes it even more perplexing signing Rodon. Legit rotation and with Boyd added and mediocre overachieving in 2021 lineup does not compute…

    • James said, on March 19, 2022 at 11:50 am

      Castellanos is a career 814 OPS after a big season in Cincy, with lousy home road splits. Not a good defender. 20 million?

  11. alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 11:42 am

    That 5/85 contract for Suzuki was quite doable considering the Giants are exactly 85 million under the cap.But yes I agree with Blade that Z’s not allowed to loosen the tight purses of Johnson and other ownership partners in the final say..

  12. Giant Head said, on March 19, 2022 at 11:45 am

    Story is the only salvage bat available if he has not signed. Play second and third when LaStella starts against righties.

    • James said, on March 19, 2022 at 12:04 pm

      Correa would have been a worthwhile splurge, if only Craw had played to expectations last year. Story has other options that allow him to play SS. He’d be a nice pick up ….

  13. Winder said, on March 19, 2022 at 11:49 am

    An article from on around the foghorn.

    Over the years we have had some pretty good players come over from Japan but none of them were real keepers. Suzuki might be the exception but that was a stiff pricetag.

    “The Giants have a rich history of Japanese players on the roster, from the first native Japanese player in all of MLB, Masanori Murakami in 1964-65, to Tsuyoshi Shinjo in 2002, Keiichi Yabu in 2008, Kensuke Tanaka in 2013 and Nori Aoki in 2015. In addition, recent Giants hero and current minor-league hitting coach Travis Ishikawa is Japanese-American, and longtime bullpen catcher Taira Uematsu was promoted to Major League Assistant Coach this offseason.”

    • xoot said, on March 19, 2022 at 12:48 pm

      Yabu! Didn’t he come into a game vs the a’s with the bases loaded and induce a triple play with his first pitch?

      • Winder said, on March 19, 2022 at 1:41 pm

        I don’t even remember him.

      • xoot said, on March 19, 2022 at 1:53 pm

        I looked it up. It was vs the Padres. Chinless Wonder Castillo at 3B started the round the horn play that concluded with . . . Bowker.

      • djloo27 said, on March 19, 2022 at 8:28 pm

        And they’re retiring his #22 this season…

  14. Bozo said, on March 19, 2022 at 12:38 pm

    According to spotrac, the Giants are estimated to be about $67 mil under the luxury tax. If ownership wanted salaries to be around $150 then thats where we’re at, if Zaidi’s budget is higher than that, as it has been in the past, then for whatever reason he decided he didn’t want to spend the bucks. He resigned Belt and Crawford so he has to believe they have more in their tanks.

    For $6 mil more, I would have gone for Nelson Cruz over Joc Pederson at DH but that’s just me.

    • Flavor said, on March 19, 2022 at 12:51 pm

      Sure in hindsight I would have preferred Cruz, too. I think Zaidi is very excited about the Joc/Ruf platoon at DH though. I’m quite leary of counting on guys like Ruf, Craw, Belt, etc to keep this level of production up but who knows? I was wrong about all of them last year.

  15. willedav said, on March 19, 2022 at 12:47 pm

    like the werewolf of London, Allie LaForce’s hair is perfect.

  16. zumiee said, on March 19, 2022 at 1:33 pm

    I’ve been cool with Zaidi from Day 1 of his arrival in SF, and I still am. I don’t agree with every single move or non-move he makes, but he’s made the organization and team better in a pretty short period of time. He has his particular way of doing things, and sticks with it. He seems totally immune to fan criticism.

  17. zumiee said, on March 19, 2022 at 1:38 pm

    It’s nice to see Spring Training games on the MLB Network. Without Spring Training games, and with the lock-out going on, the MLB Network was running on fumes.

  18. alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 2:42 pm

    Giants decided to come out hitting today.
    The new leadoff hitter today and I would like to see more of in that spot Wade jr leading the way with a double and HR and yes the mysterious man who enjoys his time off at graveyards :The GraveDuggar with a HR as well..6-2 Giants over Roc Pile after 4 innings.

    • Macdog said, on March 19, 2022 at 2:53 pm

      Rough start for Jaylin last night.

  19. alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 3:00 pm

    Yeah..Thanks for rubbing it in Mac..
    My boy’s day’s could be winding down if he doesn’t make more freaking contact..

  20. alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 4:13 pm

    One thing I heard from mouthpiece Krukow last night for the 2023 season.
    He mentioned how baseball will go with a “Balanced Schedule “ next year for the 162 game season..

    All teams in their own division( like the Giants,Bums,Padres,Rox,D-Backs) will be reduced from 19 games to 14 I believe
    which will mean every team in baseball will play each other once in a 3 game series.
    Then the following year 2024 the teams that were on the road for 2023 will be the home team in 2024..
    I think this is a great idea and long overdue, with a lot more excitement for the fans in a game that needs it desperately..

  21. Flavor said, on March 19, 2022 at 4:37 pm

    he’s revving up, folks

    Carstie Clausen
    12:36 PM (4 hours ago)
    to Flavor

    Craig: This morning I reviewed the stats on the rotation: In a word, exceptional. All the Flappers should do the same checkup. Our 1/2 holds up with the best in the game. Disco at #3 is about as good as 90% of the remaining teams can put on the mound in that slot. Wood has sparkling stats for a #4. Cobb’s stats were a pleasant surprise for me. He looks to be exceptional as a #5. Boyd should be ready for action by early June—as a fill-in—injury replacement or longman he looks strong. That return to action is timed almost perfectly, with starters beginning to wear-down a bit by say, the one-third mark of the season.

    Bullies were the best in the business for MLB last season. Z. Has added some seasoned vets for extra seasoning—most of them on minor-league contracts. So the pen, with most of the ’21 standouts returning and some now more integrated into the system, together with those under the radar acquisitions, indicates to me that there should be little or no tail-off from that 107 season.

    Lineup: No question that on a man for man basis they do not compare favorably with many of the, what is it—fourteen other playoff contenders? Kapler and the loaded coaching staff did one helluva mix and match job with that seemingly impossible array last year to make them into a statistically viable offense. Even so, one more heavy stick could amplify an otherwise “who are they” offense.

    Enter the rest of the Story. Trevor has by now pretty much resigned himself to the prospect of not being THE starting shortstop. By all accounts its down to three contenders for his services: Two contenders in the AL East: Boston and Toronto. With Correa in their pocket the Twinkies are no longer interested. So it’s down to the Big Three, with SF possibly in the catbird seat financially. So it’s all up to the Johnson gang to fork over some more shekels. So no blame on Zaidi if this doesn’t go down. I’d bet slightly better than even odds that ownership will see the light on this one.

    In the ’23 season the Giants probably will have at least two rising outfielders in the pipeline to hit The Show. Yes, they could have gone balls to the walls for Suzuki and nailed him down. Likewise Castellanos at yet another long-term contract—a no-go zone for Z and the Johnsons. But next year’s outfield would then turn into a massive jumble on who to call up and who to let go or trade off. Fully understandable logically, if not for FANatics. We’ll see over these next few weeks in Arizona if Ramos is ready. My take is that he needs to become dominant in Sac-town to get the call sometime during the season. If that happens C.F. may belong to him by August or September. He may not last long in that position as it appears that Hunter Bishop may be heating up. He’s a superior center fielder. Then there’s Luis Matos, a veritable doubles machine, who looks to be hitting the top of the pipeline by sometime this year.

    Final take: Infield is becoming a bit sketchy and no premiere prospect in sight for maybe two years, when Luciano should be ready. Story could be the key. Should they pull the reel in on him with landing-net holding steady, Giants offense may easily match last years amazing surprise. If they choose not to go for the Gold when its virtually in their hands, my take is that the fan-base, particularly among we the FANatics will be justifably pissed. -Stix

  22. mrsprtdude said, on March 19, 2022 at 4:58 pm

    I forgot about Soler. We couldn’t use a low budget power guy? DH and right handed. 3 yr $36 mil. to the MARLINS!!

    • willedav said, on March 19, 2022 at 5:16 pm

      mm I do wonder about this–with the DH, will Kap go with 13 or 14 hitters on 26 man? Because if he only goes 13 (and needs 13 pitchers) then that only leaves 4 bench guys one of whom has to be back up C he won’t normally use except in emergency.
      Last year there were games he made 4-5 substitutions and moved guys around. But with more DH guys, and remember he already has Ruf and Flores, he wouldn’t be able to play it like that unless he keeps 14 hitters, no?

  23. willedav said, on March 19, 2022 at 5:00 pm

    mm none of SF top prospect hitters have played above brief stay at High A ball, including Matos and Pomares . that’s likely where they begin this season, so “next year’s OF” sounds wildly unrealistic for them to be ML level.
    As for Hunter Bishop, he was hurt almost all of last year (shoulder iirc) after missing out entirely 2020 pandemic season.
    For 3 different teams, rook ball/low A/high A in 2021: in 45 ABs he got 6 hits 0 HRs 22Ks. So um he needs a little seasoning let’s say.

    Bottom line, hard to see where any help position wise come out of minors this year or next beside Ramos , unless someone like Vosler or Krizan break through.

    • willedav said, on March 19, 2022 at 5:12 pm

      On the fangraphs site under Giants prospects, in the top 15 only Ramos Bart and Greg Santos have played beyond A+ (high) ball. None of top guys at all.

  24. alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 5:53 pm

    Yeah I totally agree Willied,
    All the hot prospects are way to young and haven’t moved up in the organization cause they just need a lot of AB’s..Hell even Ramos is only 22 and they signed him at 17 and it feels like forever that they have had him and he’s just getting time at AAA.Bart no choice, ready are not with Posey’s retirement, so he’s learning on the fly still like in 2020 when he was overwhelmed.
    Another thing the talent isn’t at all in Sacramento,as the Giants don’t even have 1 current player on the 40 man roster from the Rivercats! That more then any reason they should of picked up a RH bat from Free Agency imo..
    Story would be the last ditch effort to do that, but it always turns out to be lip service only, so I’m not holding my breath they get him even short term..

  25. xoot said, on March 19, 2022 at 6:32 pm

    23 (nearly 24) year old Brett Auerbach put on a show these first two games. Miller and Flemming got fairly effusive on the radio today. Signed as a 21 yo FA after the compressed covid draft left him out in the cold. If he really can catch AND play the IF and easily legout triples, hell . . . .

  26. willedav said, on March 19, 2022 at 6:44 pm

    Marlins signed Soler, 3 yrs (with 2 opt outs) $36 mil.

  27. Macdog said, on March 19, 2022 at 7:55 pm

    • xoot said, on March 19, 2022 at 8:54 pm

  28. alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    Love it Mac! How bout them Peacocks 🦚!!
    Yeah I’ve always tried to get a East Coast team in my Madness Drafts in the past,they just play smart aggressive BB Teams like Ball St,Temple, Cleveland St,Xavier always good for an upset are 2!
    Man and I would dig a Memphis upset of Gonzaga as well, the ultimate choke team in the end..

  29. Flavor said, on March 19, 2022 at 8:51 pm

    lol, fucking NEXT DOOR. Nobody reports any of this at the time except my rando Vegas twitter guy

  30. alleykat69 said, on March 19, 2022 at 9:02 pm

    And isn’t Jon Gruden a couple mansions down as well from Carr?

  31. snarkk said, on March 20, 2022 at 10:54 am

    I like the news about the “balanced” schedule coming.
    I’ve railed for years against the 19 game endless repitition season against division foes. Who needs that many games against the Pads and Rocks? I’ll gladly give 5 games up against them, and even LA, for seeing more games against other teams…

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