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What Is He Doing?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 20, 2022

They won 107 games. Farhan got cocky. This is a classic case of “our guys are likeable so let’s just keep all of them”.

Austin Dean…..

This has to be a joke.

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  1. Giant Head said, on March 20, 2022 at 7:35 am

    And Story goes off the board 6 years $140. Way more than I would want to pay and makes the $100 mill 5 years for Castellanos seem very reasonable. Farhan could have should have been in that hunt and $110 for 5 or $120 for 6 likely would have landed him and certainly something easily within payroll available.

    • Flavor said, on March 20, 2022 at 7:42 am

      Exactly. We are fucked this year.

  2. willedav said, on March 20, 2022 at 7:42 am

    well, Z did add to and spend $$ on pitching. If you go to B/R and click on NL summary right above 2021 standings these are numbers from Team Standard Pitching with where Giants ranked in NL:
    2nd in runs against per game
    2nd in ERA
    2nd in team shutouts
    6th hits allowed, as in least allowed
    1st in HRs allowed as in fewest in league.
    1st in BBs allowed as in fewest in league
    1st in WHIP
    2nd in FIP by one hundredth of run
    So along with all the bombs, top slugging and all runs scored, pitching was stellar and only significant loss is Gausman who signed for 5 yrs of mega bucks. The other side of the equation–no matter how many stud hitters a team has, good pitching can (hopefully this year) shut down good hitting.
    Look at it this way–with WC playoffs going to 3 game series, gonna need more SPs and depth of staff than ever to survive

  3. willedav said, on March 20, 2022 at 7:44 am

    Or as Winder put it yesterday, “It’s still mostly about pitching to me.”

  4. Giant Head said, on March 20, 2022 at 7:46 am

    James noted yday defense liability if Castellanos and others have as well but that is what the point of the NL adding more

  5. Giant Head said, on March 20, 2022 at 7:51 am

    adding a DH making his defensive liabilities moot. Ruf can play first against lefties and late inning pinch hitter while Castellanos would have been primary DH…he would have been a lock hitting 40 homers as a Giant. We all seen hitting to left field at home is not a hindrance.

    • Flavor said, on March 20, 2022 at 8:08 am


    • unca_chuck said, on March 20, 2022 at 8:38 am

      A lock to hit 40 home runs? He played in a bandbox and hit 34 last year. Please.

  6. unca_chuck said, on March 20, 2022 at 8:16 am

    Before last year everyone was pointing at 2023 as the season we would be be relevant again.

    We jumped the time clock with platoon ball and solid if wobbly pitching and the bore core resurgence.

    Sure, we won’t get that production but just being close should be fine. EVERYONE was bitching about the lengthy contracts to older guys.

    5/$100 for Castellanos is suddenly a good idea? Fuck that.

    That being said, I want to get Story. Looks like he’s going to the Red Sox though.

  7. James said, on March 20, 2022 at 8:29 am

    Far more important than any free agent signing is that a majority of the holdovers play as well or better than last year, not least the bullpen. That’s an obvious proposition that gets lost in the anxiety over the failure to sign 29 year olds to long term deals. A good year from any of the free agents might have meant a few extra Ws. It wouldn’t make the difference between contending or not. If they do repeat their 2021 level of play, there’s always the mid-year trade. If they don’t, then the rebuild everyone was hoping for last year will happen in 23. I’d rather rebuild without long term commitments to aging players you don’t see fitting in.

  8. willedav said, on March 20, 2022 at 8:58 am

    Adding another DH type bat would hamstring Kap imo. He likes to move guys around and replace them with guys who can provide advantage once other team changes from LHP to RHP (and vice versa) as game is in late stages. Switching DH guys is one thing; having to put a DH guy in the field in late game as opposed to being able to sub in better D player is another. Kap would do this 4-5 times a game last season but more crummier D players on bench messes it up.

    Still wondering how many position players vs. pitchers he chooses to keep if rosters on Opening Day are still 26. Will he go to 14 hitters or 13?

    • Winder said, on March 20, 2022 at 9:14 am

      I have a feeling he will go with more pitching again either bullpen or spot starters. Of course injuries will dictate what goes on more on a daily basis. I am kind of wondering how Kap will handle the regular bus trips to and from Sac.

  9. willedav said, on March 20, 2022 at 9:33 am

    5 Big Ten teams playing today, 3 ACC 3 Big 12. Also 3 teams from state of Texas.
    Watched lot of B10 this season, tough physical league, very competitive. Keegan Murray of Iowa was fantastic.

  10. alleykat69 said, on March 20, 2022 at 11:03 am

    Why sweat the small stuff? U all knew the Giants are lip service on all F/A’s?
    What they do best is stockpile pitchers and weed out the good from the bad in a long grueling season,cause you never have enough especially when today’s game they only go 6 innings.
    Where the Giants have a huge edge over most teams in baseball, is they have “The Best Coaching Staff in Baseball” and that’s a huge edge as last year proved it to me, with how well the hitting coaches and pitching coach(Bailey) get the most out of these players.That sure wasn’t the case the last few years with Bochy’s useless staff and especially the 2 headed rejects of hitting coaches Powell&Schu.

  11. willedav said, on March 20, 2022 at 11:35 am

    Houston Cougs were really tough defensively.. Though they didn’t shoot 3s very well, everything else was great. Out boarded Illini, blocked more shots and forced more turnovers. Also made non 3s, 19-37 vs. Illinois 11-25. shut down not just Cockburn but guards too. Get winner of Zona vs. Horned Frogs next.

  12. zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 11:41 am

    So it looks like “Farhan doesn’t know what he’s doing” will be an annual Spring thing amongst some Giants fans.
    Pretty sure I heard that last Spring, too.

  13. zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 11:42 am

    At least the “Farhan is a secret agent for the Dodgers” narrative seems to have faded out.

    • Winder said, on March 20, 2022 at 12:48 pm

      Lol, that is the 1st time I heard that.

    • Bozo said, on March 20, 2022 at 3:57 pm

      I think my point was I didn’t trust Zaidi until he made the Giants better and also hurt the Dodgers, which the team did last year. I believe I said I was wrong but here you are, still getting butt hurt over any criticism of Farhan. You know Zumiee, I don’t recall you sticking up for all the shit that Sabean took in all his years in SF (including the championship years), why is that?

      • Bozo said, on March 20, 2022 at 4:02 pm

        Am I happy with the lack of moves Zaidi made so far? No. So, I guess I’m back to bashing him.

  14. zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 11:49 am

    6 years/120 million for Story is ridiculous, IMO. I don’t trust ex-Rockies guys. But maybe trying to hit balls into the Green Monster at Fenway is a good fit for him.

  15. zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 12:02 pm

    Randy Rhoads. Great young guitar player in Ozzie Osborne’s band who died very tragically at age 26. I read a thing yesterday about March 19 being the ‘anniversary’ date of his death. I didn’t know how he died.
    I looked it up. Oh man. Just so incredibly sad and tragic.
    Ozzie, Sharon, and the band had parked their tour bus at a place to get the bus repaired. Nearby was an airfield. The bus driver happened to be a licensed pilot. He somehow got use of a small airplane, and offered to take people up for rides. Rhoads and the tour’s make-up artist were the second group to go up with the pilot. Rhoads wanted to take some photos from up there. At some point the pilot thought it would be a funny thing to buzz low over the bus and wake up the people sleeping on the bus. He buzzed low over the bus twice, and then on a third attempt over the bus, hit the top of the bus with one of the wings, breaking the wing off. The plane spun out of control and hit a nearby garage, bursting into flames. All onboard were killed instantly, and had to be identified by dental records and the jewelry they were wearing.
    Later it was reported that Rhoads had always hated flying in planes, but took this plane ride because of the chance to take photos.

    • Winder said, on March 20, 2022 at 12:51 pm

      He was a really good guitar player.

    • unca_chuck said, on March 20, 2022 at 2:28 pm

      Yep. Shame. Up there with T-Rex’s Marc Bolan, who hated driving and never did it, being killed as a passenger in a car accident. It wasn’t a . . .

      • Winder said, on March 20, 2022 at 3:04 pm

        T-Rex was a fun band.

    • Flavor said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:06 pm

      growing up, all my friends who played guitar played because of RR. One of my best friends named his son Randy as a tribute.

  16. Winder said, on March 20, 2022 at 3:06 pm

    Just drafted my 1st FB team. Took Webb, Rodon, Ohtani, and Doval, I’m thinking championship.

  17. unca_chuck said, on March 20, 2022 at 4:29 pm

    Form genius to idiot in one week. Sure, he may be banking on last year’s absolute fluke of a season, but the fact remains, pitching wins. He’s done a decent job with that by getting Rodon. The rest should be fine. The pen has some seasoning, so what the fuck? Let it roll. Belt stays healthy, and so does Longo! Right. Believe it when I see it. Most ofd us wanted Buster to retire LAST year.

    These ginormous deals will likely all fizzle out and we will be in good shape at the trade deadline.

    Overpaying because everyone else is is not a good strategy.

    • Flavor said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:08 pm

      they wouldn’t be overpaying. They are way under lux tax and have one of the richest owners in baseball. Adding Austin Fucking Dean to the 40 while guys like Soler and Castellanos get scooped up is a fucking tragedy and Farah is going to eat shit after this year we are about to have. And to think, the last year of the Flap has to end like this? I’m pissed man, not gonna lie.

  18. willedav said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:02 pm

    4 of those Big 10 go down.

    • Macdog said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:32 pm

      Can Purdue salvage the day?

  19. Macdog said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:30 pm

    Latest announcer/analyst pet peeve: “They don’t need a 3 here.”

  20. paul sorensen said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:33 pm

    Read some comment somewhere (and now can’t find it) from someone in the organization who said something like yeah, we could go get some new players but then we’d have to get rid of someone. Uh… yeah, that’s generally how it works. I remember Sox GM Lou Gorman getting crucified by media and fans (and fired not long after) one off-season for not going after Willie McGee. Famously said “What would we do with Willie McGee?”, even though ET would’ve instantly become their best OFer. Honestly, there’s not one player on the Giants right now that I would feel bad about “having to get rid of” in favor of a new better player. Well, ‘Z is not done yet’ remains a hope.

    • James said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:47 pm

      Very philosophical!

  21. zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:44 pm

    Bozo, sorry for my flippant comment. I was thinking of some posts I had seen on Facebook over the last few years, and I should have said that. Nothing I’ve seen on the Flap matches the anger I saw on Facebook the first two years Zaidi was with the Giants.
    Regarding Sabean, for me, the difference is that when I joined the old Splash blog, Sabean had already been the Giants GM for about 10 years. I’m OK with giving a GM a number of years to do their thing. And if Zaidi hasn’t gotten the Giants to the World Series in a few years, then I think that’s a more fair time to be super-critical of him, in my opinion.
    Maybe it’s the 3-in-5 championships, but I just don’t get as intense about the Giants’ fate as I used to. I just want them to give me an entertaining season, and they did that last year. I’m cautiously optimistic they’ll do that again this season, especially with more teams making the playoffs.

  22. zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:50 pm

    The Kings took the Suns to overtime, but lost. Good competitive game. But…..as I’ve said many times on the Flap, I just don’t like the current style of NBA play all that much.
    I miss post play. Now there aren’t really any all-the-time post players in the NBA. The big guys are called “bigs” because they can’t really be called “post players” anymore. I’ll never used the word “bigs” in conversation. I’m boycotting that word. 🙂

  23. zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:53 pm

    “And to think, the last year of the Flap has to end like this?”

    You could make the Flap go longer. That could be the silver lining! 🙂

  24. zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:58 pm

    Hey, what the heck am I supposed to do without the Flap? There will be a Flap-sized hole in my life. I’m not diggin’ that. Facebook truly sucks for sports, and I just don’t want to get into Twitter. I think that would take me down another social media rabbit-hole. I’m trying to get some books read!
    By the way, “The Splendid and the Vile” by Erik Larson is outstanding. And sadly relevant given what’s happening in Ukraine. The Larson book is about the Nazi attempt to bomb the British into submission at the beginning of WWII. There’s a lot of Churchill in the book, who’s an interesting character, of course; but many other characters are a part of the story, too. Larson does great research and has a great writing style, too.

    • zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:59 pm

      On a side note, the Beatles were busy being born during WWII.

  25. paul sorensen said, on March 20, 2022 at 6:59 pm

    Wondering how Doval spent his off-season. Youngster’s last memory of the season was giving up the winning run to LA. Hope that didn’t haunt him too much.

  26. zumiee said, on March 20, 2022 at 7:04 pm

    If I remember correctly, my first post on the Splash was a pretty long rant about how painful it was to be a Giants fan. I think I was posting after a particularly painful loss by the Giants.
    The Splash was kind of like a Wild West Show. It was pretty much an unmoderated mess, but it had its moments.

  27. willedav said, on March 21, 2022 at 7:42 am

    Zum I do think you were right about last year in the sense that most everyone in baseball world wildly underestimated how Giants would do. All the guys on analytics sites like fangraphs and elsewhere had Giants scuffling. I thought 78 Ws would be optimistic and look what happened.

    Z has had his share of misses including last year, and there were a few guys the coaching staff could not fix or help, so I don’t have blind trust in either of them. But they were certainly ahead of curve last year so we’ll see.

  28. willedav said, on March 21, 2022 at 7:48 am

    One of things I looked forward to last season was checking out daily progress of minors teams, and McCoveyChronicles site had good updates including box scores. As prospects hopefully advance and prosper from High A ball it will be cool to follow how they are doing and have an idea when/where they can fill in MLB roster. Some of them struggled at one level or another; over valuing prospects is something all fans do.

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