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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 25, 2022

Stix was inspired by last night’s great win…..

Carstie Clausen12:51 AM (4 hours ago)
to Flavor, carstie

Flav:  Enough with the lurking through all the pain and humiliation:  Old Stix got stimulated by those sizzling sticks.

 After being beaten, battered and bewildered by superior pitching and offensive explosions by their opponents;  the Giants revealed their inner essence as giants.  They simply refused to lose.  After whomping up run after run in support of a very nice effort by our Webb slinger; it  looked like the thunder of doom was once again the recipe for a team deep in the doldrums, as the Mutts went to town on Tyler Rogers’ submarine frisbees, highlighted by Francisco Lindor’s six RBI rampage in a disastrous top of the 7th.

 Yet another dire defeat?  Not quite hardly.

 Lindor’s heroics were more than matched by the guy who seemed to have totally fallen off the wagon after his return from the I.L.  Eight Ribeyes on the night may not have been a Giants record; but the breakout night by Jocktivities will go down in Giants history as a night to remember.  Three home runs, including a splashdown blast into McCovey Cove set the pace for Joc Pederson, who had to have channeled his inner Viking to spark a once-again relentless offense which managed to come back from the bitter taste of probable defeat when the Mutts rallied against  the 40 MPH offerings of Luis Gonzalez’ after he had garnered three quick outs in the top of the ninth.

 Sending a young outfielder to the mound in the top of the 9thi is generally a sign of desperation, of throwing in the towel.

 Not tonight.

 More impressive for me than that Royal Flush of taters, was when Pederson (can’t tell from the name whether Norwegian or Swedish surname …here in the Northwoods of Minnesota I’m acquainted with Pederson of both persuasions ) was not tempted to swing away in that telling bottom of the ninth, rather simply meeting the ball and dinking that looping single into shallow center, plating that all-important tying run.  That feat was a sign of baseball maturity, finally achieved at the age of 30.  Jocktivities has long had the reputation as a wild-assed free swinger…a musclehead Jockforbrains.

 Well, some guys do need  a bit of time to finally grow up into fully mature manhood.  Pederson reached that plateau tonight.  It was not about ego, rather playing for the team and for honor.  Hats off to him and to Kapler who maintained his faith in the slugger.  Perhaps his May 24 heroics will have successfully turned the corner in his somewhat talented but checkered career.  Just maybe, Jocktivities will have transformed himself into that fearsome Big Bat in the cleanup position which every successful team needs to overcome the horrors of a pitching staff that suddenly lost track of its mojo.

 But don’t think this was a one-man show.  Nineteen hits for Los Gigantes as against a dozen and a half for the N.L. New Yokkers.  Thirteen runs to an even dozen.  Baker’s dozen does it.  Tommy LaStella was also stellar with his three-run tattoo.  Perhaps sensing the swift rise of Marco Luciano, the Giants #1 prospect and a fellow shortstop; CrawDaddy let the world know that he’s not yet yesterday’s news by batting in that winning run…opposite field, even.  No wild swinging away, attempting to pull the ball with some oomph behind it, but going inside-out and plating the Winnah.  Yes, a professional for sure.

 Missing Late Night Wade and BB9 (El Capitan) , plus #1 catcher Casali;  the Giants were saddled with pipeline callups who had recently been acquired in seeming desperation moves by Zaidi.  So in part the Giants had to make do with a chunk of the squad suddenly getting the call to The Show and a bit nervous in the spotlight.  No problemo tonight.  The pros, the vets, also relative newbies like Estrada and Gonzalez, took up the slack and mounted a murderous attack, coming back twice, thanks to the Man of the Hour as the pace-setter.

 So the Game of the Year, as Ms. Guardado called it on her coverage, got the team off the shnoid.  Hitting can become contagious.  So can winning.

 John Brebbia made some atonement for the rest of the bullpen, by quieting the Mets in their last hurrah of the evening to win his well deserved second game.  That could not  have come at a better time.  Maybe Brebbia too, can become a pace-setter, this time for a badly battered bullpen.  If the offense can maintain the hitting contagion for two or three more weeks, the return of Disco and the appearance of Boyd may bring in a couple of reliable starters.  Tonight’s victory may jell the team once again.  After the Mets, the upcoming opponents should not be quite as formidable.  A much needed winning streak could be exactly what the doctor ordered. 

 Could be that Zaidi will explore the trade-winds among teams who have little or no chance at the Post-Season for some bullpen help.  Lit-Up has done Littlell for the team lately.  He may go the DFA route unless he gets his shit together like pronto. One or two others are also slightly shaky.  Bullpen repair may well happen before the trading deadline.

 Team morale should have gotten one helluva boost on May 24, 2022.  Check out those numbers.  A  total of four deuces in that array.   A Full House trumps three aces.  Nice showing by Webb tonight.  Too bad those frisbees Rogers flipped fell like a failed quiche or a collapsed cake.  The Webb-slinger deserved the victory.  Oh well, it’s not all about the starter, or any single player.  Seems like the Giants are not much into super-stars.  When they cohere and play like a team, they turn into a monster.

 They simply refuse to lose….just maybe, tonight’s thriller was the classic game-changer.  We needed that…desperately. Let’s make it two in a row tomorrow…er, later today.

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  1. willedav said, on May 25, 2022 at 6:58 am

    wild one for sure. Teams combined to hit .400 with RISP. Btw Leone Rogers Brebbia, yikes. Mets racked up couple blown saves of their own after SF whacked Bassitt around again on rare warm no wind night.
    And it’s gonna be warm in SF again for day game. Hope SF can keep Gonzalez in OF.

  2. willedav said, on May 25, 2022 at 7:09 am

    Couple good points made last night too by Kat and Loo on mgr. gaffes. Kap obviously left Rogers in way too long before finally bringing in Doval, who also gave up couple hits.
    And you know Buck never wanted to see Pederson up with chance to tie game after the walk. Chance of him hitting 3 run bomb into the Cove off LHP pretty slim.
    I think Slush said Longoria is hurt again (shoulder), reason he wasn’t in there at 3b to begin with.

  3. unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 7:21 am

    I’m just pissed Villar isn’t playing. Why Pudlo? And I think every GIants fan on Earth saw the double coming off of Rogers. Everyone but Kapler. Doval was ready. I don’t get it.

  4. unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 7:29 am

    Apparently Joc and Wade talked to Barry Bonds for ‘quite a while’ before the game. Up to like 20 minutes before the game.

    https://www.yahoo.com/now/joc-pederson-uses-barry-bonds-071542423.html

  5. Lurker John said, on May 25, 2022 at 7:30 am

    It’s mind-boggling that Rogers was left in long enough to give up 7 runs. Kapler’s bullpen management technique needs some refinement. He’s had a boner for Rogers since they got him.

  6. unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 7:36 am

    Joc:

    “It was just talking, freeing up the mind, getting rid of distractions,” Pederson said. “I’ve talked to great hitters before and they’re not as in-depth as him. Obviously the game came very easy for him, but he’s also a master inside the ears at being able to stay focused.”

    In the immortal words of George Clinton, free your mind and your ass will follow.

  7. Bozo said, on May 25, 2022 at 8:00 am

    I went to bed after 5, we were up 8-2, I sure didn’t expect we would need a walk off. I watched the high/low lights of the rest of the game this AM, not what I’d call clean baseball. I know losing that game would have been crushing so I’m glad they pulled it off and happy they did it in walk off fashion, but glad I didn’t stay up for that one.

  8. alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 8:15 am

    I for one is done with Tyler Rodgers who pitches like he has “Tijuana Diarrhea “ in his pants.His quirky delivery is not cutting it anymore as he gets lit up by all things shit dribblers and weird hops and then a well timed gapper is always his M.O!!

    His freaking line last night .. 0.1 of an inning 7Hits 7 ER ERA 7.41 and yes Kapler like LJ mentioned has a boner crush with this chump! No way in hell does a competent manager leave a guy in to give up 7 runs and blow a huge lead he was given.And yet Kap he will keep using his useless smoldering stream of diarrhea unless hopefully his fake injury will come up and he can join a useless McGoo on the DL as well.Both those dudes need to be DFA but it will never happen..

  9. unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 8:23 am

    The pen was supposed to be a strength and it is a mess right now. Granted, the defense was shit in that 7th as there should have been 3 errors called on all those dribblers, I KNEW there was a big hit coming once the Keystone Kops and Mr Rogers flooded the neighborhood with baserunners.

    And, again, why the fuck is Padlo up and not Villar? He’s a shitty fielder and isn’t hitting.

  10. Flavor said, on May 25, 2022 at 8:58 am

    • djloo27 said, on May 25, 2022 at 9:49 am

      Please?
      Hysterical!

    • Lurker John said, on May 25, 2022 at 11:44 am

      Ah, the Candlestone Park years. Lean times for the Giants and Niners.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 12:10 pm

        That field was God-awful. The only thing good OJ did as a Niner was force Joe Thomas to reinstall the grass.

  11. Macdog said, on May 25, 2022 at 9:00 am

    I never saw Mays and McCovey in their 60s prime. I did see Bonds and many of his incredible games. But outside of Pablo’s 3 HRs in Game 1, what Joc did last night was the greatest offensive game I’ve ever seen from a Giant. Especially given the circumstances, with a 5-game losing streak headed toward what would have been a crushing 6 in a row after the absurd collapse in the 8th. That 3-run blast in the 8th was as clutch as it gets, that is until the 10th when he delivered the game-tying 2-out single. A truly epic performance. I don’t know if this team can turn it around anytime soon, there’s a lot going wrong right now between crappy pitching, especially from the ‘pen, shoddy defense and too many injuries that’s resulted in bringing up AA players who have no business being in the majors let alone Triple-A. But maybe last night’s Joc-fest can be a turning point.

    • djloo27 said, on May 25, 2022 at 9:47 am

      You didn’t see Phil Weintraub’s 11 RBI game in 1944?

      https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NY1/NY1194404301.shtml

      On the same date 17 years later Mays had his 4 HR game in Milwaukee…

      • alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 10:21 am

        Damm that’s some incredible performance by Weintraub!
        4-5 5 runs scored 11RBI’s HR triple , 2 doubles..Had all the hard stuff out the way but couldn’t manage a measly single for the cycle! Wonder if that nagged on him for awhile?lol

      • Macdog said, on May 25, 2022 at 10:21 am

        Good job by Feldman out of the ‘pen. Ott 5 walks and 6 runs. Didn’t know Hall of Fame brothers Paul and Lloyd Waner played with Dodgers late career. Weintraub was back in the majors in ’44 after a six-year absence spent in the minors.

  12. alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 10:14 am

    Chuck as of right now Villar isn’t on the 40 man roster, only infielders Vosler and Walton who are both at AAA with Villar.But with all the crazy carousel moves the Giants make, who knows if Villar gets a crack also.His numbers sure look good, but unfortunately we just don’t know what’s in Z and Kapler’s thinking is regarding him..

    Does anybody know what happened to that kid Williams as well was he cut loose?

    • Macdog said, on May 25, 2022 at 10:27 am

      Luke Williams was DFA’d last week.

      • alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 11:17 am

        Thanks Mac..Kinda liked him.But with the Giants here today gone tomorrow philosophy..

      • unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 12:15 pm

        Yeah, I missed that as well. Certainly like Luke over Pudlo.

  13. willedav said, on May 25, 2022 at 11:26 am

    Slush said Belt and Slater are OK and should be back sometime in Cincy series.
    Also that Longoria shoulder day to day thing and not serious. Better D obviously would help pitching staff. Was kinda funny to watch Pederson trip and fall over foul line in LF, but he had one hella night at the plate.

    • Macdog said, on May 25, 2022 at 11:32 am

      Longoria is in starting lineup today, for now.

  14. James said, on May 25, 2022 at 11:46 am

    Like Cobb the day before, no one was hitting the ball hard off of Rogers in the big inning. Lindor’s double was just another ground ball. It’s a phrase worthy of all the derision you can heap on it, but it’s gonna be process over outcome for as long as Zaidi and Kapler are in charge.

    • unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 12:15 pm

      The triple was scorched. As the was 2 run double last week after he gave up a couple cheapie hits. Yeah, the defense sucks, but he still has to avoid the disastrous hits gotten off him.

      • James said, on May 25, 2022 at 12:25 pm

        And the HR off of Cobb was, too. Neither one was tired or lacking their usual stuff. Kapler isn’t going to pull someone immediately because they’ve been far more unlucky than shitty. Doval came in and immediately gave up a bullet to CF that was caught, and proceeded to look worse than Rogers did, even though he got out of it.

      • unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 2:00 pm

        The problem with that is Rogers routinely gives up infield hits, squibs, and fucked up little jam-jobs that are tough to field. He is not pitching well this season. His whip is 1.53. 28 baserunners in 17 innings. No bueno.

      • James said, on May 25, 2022 at 2:42 pm

        Yes, he did the same thing last year, too, and had an excellent season. There is no such thing as a pitcher who will be ineffective over the long run because he gives up too much weak contact.

  15. snarkk said, on May 25, 2022 at 12:55 pm

    Baggs said Kapler left Rogers in because he figured at some point he’d get a grounder double play ball. But, instead, he got bad D and grounders mashed through the IF and some seeing-eye lucky ass grounders that just turned into lucky ass IF hits. Lucky may be a misnomer. Rogers makes “pitch to contact” a different thing altogether from the usual connotation, because his contact given up is so light and weird that it often pressures the D more than “regular” ground ball contact. This is what many of us have observed and talked about in various ways here. Apparently, Rogers has the slowest average given-up ground ball speed of any pitcher in MLB…

  16. Macdog said, on May 25, 2022 at 12:58 pm

    Good news: Longo 3-run bomb for 3-0 lead.
    Bad news: There’s still 8 innings left.

  17. willedav said, on May 25, 2022 at 12:58 pm

    And Longo powers one over CF fence. As kuiper just said, this game started like last night’s ended.

  18. djloo27 said, on May 25, 2022 at 12:59 pm

    Wind aided 3 run bomb for Longo off the great Szapucki…

  19. Bozo said, on May 25, 2022 at 12:59 pm

    Longo, nice way to start the day.

  20. alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:00 pm

    That was a sweet over needed Bomb by Longo his 1st Jack of the year a 3 run bomb!!

  21. Macdog said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:02 pm

    Jocularity!

  22. Bozo said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:02 pm

    Wow, Joc keeps on going long.

  23. alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:03 pm

    OMG Joc is just on a HR binge and I’m digging it!!
    He needs to talk to Barry every day, cause whatever that pep talk was it’s WORKING!!

  24. xoot said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:06 pm

    Cash Considerations Padlo may be listening to the game on the radio as he drives toward 95 degree heat in Sactown. His MLB minimum 1/2 million dollar salary can cover good AC, I’m sure. Meanwhile, Longo and Joc are hot in SF. Helluva first inning.

  25. Macdog said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:06 pm

    What the hell was Bart doing?

    • xoot said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:09 pm

      for some reason, cough, cought, the tv people decided not get into it. Radio, anyone?

  26. djloo27 said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:17 pm

    Some guy in a Giant uniform just led off the 2nd with a double…

  27. djloo27 said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:20 pm

    Mr. Ed on pace to hit 9 doubles today…

  28. Bozo said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:22 pm

    Yaz joins the party.

  29. djloo27 said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:22 pm

    Never seen Yaz this hot.
    Anything in the air to CF today is going out…

  30. djloo27 said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:24 pm

    So Long!

  31. Bozo said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:24 pm

    The Longo is alive.

  32. willedav said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:26 pm

    wow 2 more bombs this inning Yaz and Longoria. Great to see all the HRs.
    giants off to Cincy next then Philly, couple hitter friendly yards. It’s been warmer in Bay Area than there last couple days.

  33. Lurker John said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:28 pm

    Somebody lit a fire under the Giants’ collective asses. Just like that, Pederson is playing out of his mind. Wow.

  34. alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:30 pm

    4 HR’s 2 by Longo they are smashing the shit out of the ball!
    9-0 but no matter what don’t put Rodgers in today!!!

  35. alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:35 pm

    Yaz has been totally locked in for over a month I believe, yeah like Loo mentioned I’ve never seen him this hot either.Then theirs Joc Ruth and if Longo can keep it up ( just needed reps) that’s a nice combo working ..

  36. willedav said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:45 pm

    Flashed Starling Marte’s stats before he flew out to end inning. .275/.313/.414 for .727 OPS. Above league average in humidor ball this year but…signed for 4 yrs @$78 mil. Slater has better numbers than that iirc and for hella less dough. Plus Marte is 33 right now and turns 34 this October. I think Z was wise to pass on this guy.

  37. alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:48 pm

    Can I get a Captain Belt bobble head doll with syringes draining both knees?
    And one with Wade with cortisone needle shots sticking out in both knees as well?

  38. willedav said, on May 25, 2022 at 1:49 pm

    whoa hella play out there in LF.

  39. unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 2:20 pm

    Who is Johnboy Walton?

    • alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 2:26 pm

      That would be are SS today Chuck..Donavan “John Boy” Walton

  40. Winder said, on May 25, 2022 at 2:44 pm

    Hard to tell which Giants team is gonna show up on any given day but I sure like the looks of this one

  41. unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 2:51 pm

    Are you kidding me Alvarez?

  42. Macdog said, on May 25, 2022 at 2:51 pm

    Two walks, c’mon you stiff.

  43. unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 2:52 pm

    We seem to be rolling through the chaff in Sacto to see if any of these guys are worthy of keeping.

  44. unca_chuck said, on May 25, 2022 at 3:29 pm

    Think I’ve seen enough of Lloverboy here.

  45. Bozo said, on May 25, 2022 at 3:37 pm

    Nice outing by Junis.

    • zumiee said, on May 25, 2022 at 3:42 pm

      • alleykat69 said, on May 25, 2022 at 3:51 pm

        Clint says enough of these candy ass Mets!
        Junis real sharp, he’s establishing himself as a reliable starter..

    • willedav said, on May 25, 2022 at 6:50 pm

      Yes. Breath of fresh air from rotation.

  46. zumiee said, on May 25, 2022 at 6:59 pm

    “Think I’ve seen enough of Lloverboy here.”

    He’s ‘working for the weakened’ bullpen.
    Yeah, I stretched pretty far for that little joke.

  47. zumiee said, on May 25, 2022 at 7:01 pm

    Heat/Celtics 42-37 at halftime. It’s a “make or miss” league, blah blah blah.


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