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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 9, 2022

Tired of the Giants.

Let’s talk coolest Niners. You guys got my Niner love going last night with the Rathman talk. Without question the coolest Niner I ever met was Tom Rathman. He was a fixture at the Bay Meadows clubhouse in the off season back in the day. Totally approachable, just one of the guys, he loves horse racing. Bobby Bonds was there all the time too but he spent most of his time on the porch smoking cigs. And he’d never talk to anyone when he was inside. But Rathman? Just an awesome dude.

Speaking of football I read an article the other day, I can’t find it now I think it was in the Chronicle, that said flag football is inevitable. All football will be flag some day except pro and I didn’t really understand how that would work. Like you’d play flag growing up and through college then all of a sudden go to tackle in the pros? Didn’t make sense.

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  1. willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 8:06 am

    mm met a few over the years. Ronnie and Ms. Lott came into store a few times and I sold something to Joe Staley, who is massive and really nice guy. Mooch used to come into store too as did Ms. Coach Shanahan, nice lady/high end shopper well aware of what she wants without being difficult.

    Roger Craig’s daughter Ro played b-ball for Menlo School for 2 years when I was assistant at Paly. he used to wander hallways during games apparently because he couldn’t stand team or coach.
    next thing you know Ro transfers to state powerhouse Mitty and becomes D 1 player that romped locals. Watched from opposing bench on night she got 31 at home gym off bench.

  2. Winder said, on July 9, 2022 at 8:36 am

    Used to be you could see a bunch of Niners running around Menlo Park and Redwood city. With the money they make now they probably live in Atherton or Hillsborough.

  3. Bozo said, on July 9, 2022 at 9:08 am

    Never spoke to him but seen Joe at One Market restaurant and a couple of times at Tadich Grill, always looked like he was having a good time. Don’t know if it’s true, but so many of the Niners seemed to be approachable. The guy I always thought would be great to have a couple of beers with was John Taylor. He always seemed like just a regular guy and IMO, one that should be in the football hall of fame. I imagine drinking with Charles Haley could have been an interesting night out.

    • Flavor said, on July 9, 2022 at 10:13 am

      My mom showed Joe and his wife a house in Atherton back in the day. She said Jennifer was clearly in charge and Joe spent most of the time marveling at the stove and the hood above it. lol

  4. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 10:23 am

    Saw Joe and Dwight Clark at the Hillsdale mall with my friend Dave (guy next to me in photo) about 2 months after Super Bowl 16. Talked to them for a few minutes, and was amazed at how small Joe was and how big Dwight was. No one was really paying attention to them and they were goofy as all get-out. Told them they brought so much happiness to so many long-suffering fans. They laughed and said, we’re just playing football trying to have a good time.

  5. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 10:40 am

    Met Ronnie Lott and Cedrick Hardman at the Keystone PA with Dave when Kevin’s band opened for the Paul Collins Beat. Bought them a couple beers and gave Ronnie shit for going to the Raiders. Hardman had just retired (i think). Ronnie too was smaller than I thought. Hardman was all shoulders and legs and huge.

    • willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 11:49 am

      ha. Mid 80s I was playing softball in Redwood City for team that practiced over by Niners facility on Roosevelt. Walked through gym once and one look at Hardman cured any thoughts I might have had about playing.

      Patrick Walsh, from DeLaSalle and longtime coach at Serra, is one of proponents of flag ball.

      • unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 12:55 pm

        Pat’s dad was my Drafting teacher at Serra.

        When I worked next to Levitt’s in San Carlos we used to go bowling at Bel Mateo bowl for lunch and would run into Ronnie Lott, Tim McDonald, and Jerry Rice bowling. It was usually pretty empty and they were usually putting down the beers. Good times. Easy to talk when they are having fun.

        Yeah, it was a different time when you would see guys everywhere. Saw Rice at the Foster City Black Angus. Square Cow Fun Bar! Dave yelled out, “Nice contract, dude!” RIce was more embarrassed than anything but he did drink the beer he bought him. Nice mellow guy.

  6. mrsprtdude said, on July 9, 2022 at 11:02 am

    I think there will always be football. The difference will be affluent schools dropping it. Less affluent in most of the country will still play. A way out / college to big an opportunity for many, even if the chances are small. My son might not have even bothered with college if not for lacrosse. Played D3.
    From 18-22 he figured things out, graduated and has a job in Chicago. It’s not just D1 to the pro but thousands of D2 and D3 programs…

  7. snarkk said, on July 9, 2022 at 11:46 am

    I agree with BF’s line 1 of today’s thread.
    They’ve been hard to follow for at least 6 weeks now.
    Keep Villar playing, bring some more kids up.
    This team needs a collective double shot of Geritol.
    They don’t score well (11th in MLB, which is surprisingly high to me) because they don’t hit near as many dingers as last year.
    Last year: 241. They’re on course to hit around 185 this year, about a 25% fall. 20th in staff ERA doesn’t help.
    They can’t string together enough hits to have big innings except on the rare occasion, and they’re slower than molasses on the bases…

  8. willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 11:56 am

    For all the 3 outcomes noise, the thing I can’t abide most are the walks. The Giants walked 7 of punchless Padres last night, and gave up 9 hits to them in 8 innings for an OB of .400. That team has only 1 hitter to worry about period, and they’ve allowed him to burn them in each game. That team however is 2nd NL for ERA.

    We saw what happened to Doval the other night. A guy with 100+ heat and 90 mph slider and he walks 3 guys and gets 2 outs in 37 pitches. What good is all the stuff you have if you can’t find the plate with it or at least get close enough to make guys chase?

  9. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 1:09 pm

    Everyone but Long walked guys. It is infuriating.

  10. blade3colorado said, on July 9, 2022 at 1:52 pm

    I can’t access this complete article, except for the beginning 7 paragraphs, but this is exactly what I am talking about regarding pitchers today being coddled. A freaking starter today barely goes 5 innings. That’s pathetic. Forget about complete games. lol 😝

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/34196864/dying-breed-sucks-decline-starting-pitcher-means-baseball-future

    • blade3colorado said, on July 9, 2022 at 1:54 pm

      If anyone has ESPN Plus and can access the rest of the article, I would love to see the rest of it. I like this guy Passan going back to his Yahoo days as a sports writer. Thank you in advance.

  11. djloo27 said, on July 9, 2022 at 3:22 pm

    1. LaMonte Wade Jr. (L) RF
    2. Joc Pederson (L) LF
    3. Wilmer Flores (R) 2B
    4. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    5. Luis Gonzalez (L) DH
    6. David Villar (R) 3B
    7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
    8. Mike Yastrzemski (L) CF
    9. Austin Wynns (R) C

    P: Carlos Rodon (L)

  12. willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 3:38 pm

    Shea says McGee DFA’d, Littell to IL Yunior Marte returns and as noted in Loo’s lineup Gonzalez back live.

  13. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:11 pm

    Yippie kai a motherfuckers

  14. snarkk said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:20 pm

    Gonzales back is a plus, should be anyway.
    McGoo gone?
    Fine. But, I think the turnstile nature of this 26 from game to game is getting to be too much, with no core to hold things together. How can you have cohesion, chemistry in a clubhouse when the guys go in/out of the roster like it’s Friday night at the pub? I wonder if Posey quit a year early because he didn’t like what he saw in 2021?…

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:23 pm

      I feel your pain…

    • unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:55 pm

      No. He wanted time with his kids. The reason there’s no cohesion is because Belt, Longo, Wade, Crawfish, and Belt, and Blet, and Belt, and LaStella have all been hurt. 6 starters have barely played.
      The rest is bullshit.

  15. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    Morning, Flappers! 6:20am Sunday morning here, up early to head to Cambodia to do a visa run, still dealing with visa issues. If all goes well, back by mid-afternoon and should be good for 3 months to try one last time to get long-term work permit and resident visa. Always something. First trip out of country in 3 years, thanks to Covid. Enjoy your Saturday evenings, gentlemen (?)….

    • alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:39 pm

      Good luck on your visa issues Paul, hope it gets resolved for you long term especially..

  16. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:35 pm

    Hallelujah McGoo is gone!
    The daily options and releases should continue!
    Bring up Dabovich for the pen, dude has filthy stuff, glad to see Marte back up as well.
    Typical Giants moves, one bad outing by Alvarez let’s find an injury,they callup Littell for Alvarez and after 37 pitches of dog shit pitching 4 walks and a hit, gone with a left oblique! Get some young fresh arms up here it would peak my interest more.Rodgers can take a hike too, but Kapler’s bromance with him won’t do it..

  17. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:39 pm

    Old and slow.

    THe curse of the bases loaded, 0 outs.

  18. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:40 pm

    He shoulda been out, but hey. I’ll take it.

  19. Macdog said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:42 pm

    Yazzzzzzzz.

  20. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:43 pm

    Lame

  21. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:45 pm

    Belt dragging an anchor with him miraculously scores with no slide!
    Yaz of course pops out, man the Giants just completely suck getting runners in with no out, 1 out ,2 outs DOB ( Dead on Bases💀)

  22. snarkk said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:55 pm

    SF must lead the league in being unable to score a guy from 2nd with a base hit to the OF…

    • unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:59 pm

      And we DO lead the league in not fielding grounders.

  23. willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 4:56 pm

    Belt yikes.

  24. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 5:04 pm

    Can’t even reach the track.

  25. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 5:08 pm

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  26. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 5:14 pm

    Well, took ’em 3 games to not throw Manny spank-me sliders.

  27. willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 5:16 pm

    Rodon and high hard one at 98 thing of beauty.

  28. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 5:24 pm

    Curse of the lead off double.

  29. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 5:27 pm

    yazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wastes yet another oppo today.

  30. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 5:28 pm

    Yep leadoff double and thenzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  31. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 5:35 pm

    Rodon is dealing. Low pitch count. Shocking.

  32. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 5:37 pm

    Atleast Rodon is dealing nasty fastballs at 97-99 and decent pitch count at 58..

  33. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:04 pm

    Unbelievable how inept this team is at hitting the ball.

  34. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:12 pm

    Yazzzzzzzzzzz with his 3rd popup.

  35. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:13 pm

    Right now they couldn’t score in a whorehouse..

  36. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:15 pm

    Like the Rams dumping Jeff Fisher, I expected the Padres to get better dumping THE TINGLER and hiring Melvin.

  37. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:16 pm

    It doesn’t get any better than this . . .

  38. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:29 pm

    Someone is due. Everyone is due.

  39. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:32 pm

    Yessssssssssssssss!!!!

  40. willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:32 pm

    Wilmet!

  41. djloo27 said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:33 pm

  42. Macdog said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:33 pm

    Wilmet!

  43. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:33 pm

    MR.Tingler shocks the padres with that 2 run shot!!

  44. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:34 pm

    We are the slowest team in the league. And the includes every beer league softball team.

  45. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:36 pm

    Fuck Belt. DFA him. SO fucking tired of this half-assed gimpy lame fucking garbage.

  46. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:37 pm

    A horse is a horse of course of course and everyone loves a horse of course especially when it’s the famous Mr.ED!!!!

    As usual Belt pulls up lame like a horse 🐎 10 days minimum are shoot him?

  47. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:37 pm

    They’d better send Rodon out there.

  48. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:39 pm

    Villar looking a little overmatched these days.

    • djloo27 said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:40 pm

      When was the last time they called up a guy and he came out blasting?
      McCovey?

      • willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:10 pm

        lulz

  49. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:41 pm

    WIll Clark

    • unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:43 pm

      Oh Call up. Buster.

      • djloo27 said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:44 pm

        Buster just 2-17 when called up in 2009…

  50. djloo27 said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:43 pm

    Boy, this guy had a rough nickname…

  51. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:46 pm

    Could of sworn I heard the Fox announcer say Villar was a 1st rd pick number 11 overall in 2018?
    In reality he was a 11th rd pick in 2018! Do your homework chump..

  52. djloo27 said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:49 pm

    Z gonna be gettin lotsa calls for Rodon…

  53. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 6:50 pm

    20 in a row. Wow. Auditioning for the deadline.

    • willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:12 pm

      Or a new deal, no?

  54. zumiee said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:04 pm

    The Craw and Belt signings were bad. They seemed like reasonable signings at the time.

    • James said, on July 9, 2022 at 8:34 pm

      How could he not have signed them? Bill Walsh had Super Bowl cred when he made harsh decisions, and none of his calls were as brutal as letting those two go would have been. The best free agents were at short and first. I’m not a believer in the Zaidi had his hands tied by ownership theory. He was constrained by history and an amazing 107 win season that Crawford and Belt had a huge hand in.

  55. willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:09 pm

    whoosh and the message is delivered by rodon. that is how it’s done.

  56. Macdog said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:09 pm

    Alright Rodon, a complete game!

    • zumiee said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:14 pm

  57. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:11 pm

    Masterpiece by Rodon firing 98 still at the end for a CG!!!

  58. djloo27 said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:12 pm

    • Bozo said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:23 pm

      Sweet win. Go Claude go.

  59. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:17 pm

    Carlos Rodon will be having some SD spumoni cake tonight!!

  60. Macdog said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:21 pm

    Loo, maybe Pablo?

  61. unca_chuck said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:23 pm

  62. snarkk said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:26 pm

    Trade Rodon for some hitters before he needs a TJ before the trade deadline.
    He gone FA $ next year anyway…

    • willedav said, on July 9, 2022 at 9:11 pm

      Money isn’t Giants problem, talent is, right?
      why not spring for him and redo contract? Guy is beast. Having 2 like that at top of rotation would be awesome.

  63. alleykat69 said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:42 pm

    Parting gift for Brandon Belt, a hospital wing named after him..

    • Bozo said, on July 9, 2022 at 7:53 pm

      The Cap’n Crutch wing?

  64. mrsprtdude said, on July 9, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    My daughter is in town (in OC) and I watched the game. Finally a win. LOVE it Rondon called people out and then kicked ASS!

  65. mrsprtdude said, on July 9, 2022 at 8:20 pm

    As an aside…Karros announcing on fox.. He knew it was going to be close as the ball flashed by when belt 1/2 way to 1st. Bummer belt likely hurt again but funny none the less..


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