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Shades of 2010/2012/2014

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 14, 2022

Sorry for the late thread. I got up at 2am to watch The Open and I needed a nap.
Anyway, that’s how we did it back in the Championship years. Fun to get a whiff of that again.

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  1. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:44 am

    Got up at 2 AM to watch golf? People usually put golf on at 2 AM if they’re needing help getting to sleep. 🙂

    • Flavor said, on July 14, 2022 at 12:47 pm

      Nah zum, If I have trouble sleeping I just flip on pretty much any Beatles tune and I fall fast asleep immediately 🙂

      • djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 3:35 pm
  2. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:47 am

    It was irritating watching the Cards blow a 6-run lead to the Dodgers.
    But….the more I thought about it, I had to admit that it’s more helpful to the Giants if the Dodgers beat the Cards.

  3. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:58 am

    Regarding what Willie posted about the Royals on the last thread…..one of the Royals’ un-vaxxed players said he would get vaxxed if the Royals were a playoff team. Wow! As a GM I’d be very tempted just to DFA him right there. I don’t know if he’s one of their better players or not, because I just can’t remember anything about that team, other than Perez the catcher.
    “Our team sucks, so I don’t see a problem with missing those games in Toronto.” Such a winning attitude.
    10 (!) players. It doesn’t surprise me, though. With the amount of white players in baseball, a certain amount of them are going to be conservative politically and/or culturally, and the stats show that the vast majority of the counties with the highest death rates from Covid now in the U.S. are counties that Trump won in the last election. Those counties have low vax rates.

    • willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 11:17 am

      One of them is Benintendi right? This is guy who could wind up on contender. Suppose that team has to go Toronto at some point in regular season or even worse would have to go there for playoff game or two?

      Was just weird reading through the twitter feed, as Baggs and those who supported what he said “failure of leadership”) took lot of heat and blowback.

  4. djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:59 am

    The average price of an apartment in Manhattan is now over $5,000.00.
    Where do people get this kind of money?

    • zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 11:12 am

      Most rich people inherited their wealth. It’s “old money.” There are many people who get wealth from their own efforts, but there are a lot of “trust-fund” people out there.

      • zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 11:15 am

        Sean Lennon is a cool guy, and has made some good musical recordings, but what would it be like to inherit millions of dollars? Paul McCartney’s son James doesn’t strike me as Mr. Ambition.

      • djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 11:38 am

        Hard to believe little Sean is in his late 40’s.
        Met Julian in LV 30 some years ago.
        Nice as could be…

      • zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 11:44 am

        I have a couple of Julian’s albums. They’re good. So sad that John never got to see Julian have some success in the music business. And, of course, so sad for Julian to lose his dad so young.

      • unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 5:32 pm

        Sean Lennon is touring with Les Claypool (of Primus). I’d love to see that.

  5. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 11:09 am

    The number of daily Covid deaths has been going up again, following (so far) that pattern of the last 3 years of the numbers going much lower in the middle of the summer, and then starting to rise as the calendar heads to Fall.
    2/3 of the nation so far has gotten vaxxed at all. But only 47% has gotten vaxxed AND boosted.

  6. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 11:27 am

    The 47-42 Blue Jays (who just fired their manager (!)) get to play 4 games vs. a much-depleted Royals team. That’s got to grind some execs and players from other AL teams trying to get a playoff spot.

  7. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 11:34 am

    That firing of the Blue Jays manager is a reminder to all MLB managers how no manager is truly safe from getting fired. What if the Dodgers and/or Yankees don’t win the World Series this season? Roberts and Boone could be on the outs.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 5:35 pm

      Roberts has done very little with what should be an unbeatable team with oodles of talent. You could say the same for Boone as well but I don;t know the Yanks as much as the Dogs.

  8. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 12:19 pm

    The video for Julian’s song “Saltwater” is from 1991, but it’s eerie how the video depicts, in a kind of dystopian way, people walking through a city while wearing medical masks. It’s downright prophetic.

  9. willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 12:30 pm

    Zum that was good thread from Royals blogger guy, thanks. Also interestingly enough in the comments, one guy lamented that with all the buyer teams in AL East, it diminishes chances one of them would take on Merrifield or Benintendi (or other non vaxed guys) because they’d have to sit out any future games at Toronto.

    • zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 12:46 pm

      Yeah, it does a good job of comparing the Royals to the White Sox, who have a very high rate of vaccination on their team. The White Sox made it a priority throughout their organization, and the Royals not so much.

  10. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 12:31 pm

    The Mariners and Angels got into a stupid brawl a couple of weeks ago, and……the Mariners are 10-0 since the brawl.

    • James said, on July 14, 2022 at 12:46 pm

      Stupidity tied to so much winning.

      • willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 1:21 pm

        will be interesting to see if Giants can build off momentum (does that still exist?) of couple feel good Ws, or stay on .500 win a couple/lose a couple plane. After AS break they have 4 in LA, then play them again for 4 here after series with AZ (road) and Cubs (4 at home). Cubs series would end just before deadline.

    • Giant Head said, on July 14, 2022 at 3:17 pm

      Maybe it was something that bound that team together and they had different players from different orgs all throughout their lineup including Carlos Santana late from the Royals…

  11. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 12:53 pm

    U.S. Covid deaths:
    July 13, 2021: 432
    July 13, 2022: 882

  12. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 12:55 pm

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say there are some Giants fans will never go back to the ballpark. They are finished with being around big crowds of strangers.

  13. zumiee said, on July 14, 2022 at 1:01 pm

    Some player in MLB needs to use the beginning of the Beatles’ “Helter Skelter” as their walk-up music. It would be epic.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 1:20 pm

      Time for flavor to ketch another nap 😴

    • blade3colorado said, on July 14, 2022 at 1:31 pm

      It’s associated too much with the Manson family and Tate–LaBianca murders. As stupid as this commissioner is, I don’t see that happening any time soon. Great song though!

      KC Royal players smh that they’re so stupid . . . Exceeded only by the owner’s moronic approval. Side Note: I must be old, as I have come full circle on free agency. To think I once supported Andy Messersmith and Dave McNally’s free agency in 1975, and the subsequent adept piece of negotiation by Marvin Miller, the head of the Players’ Association, whom won the players the 1976 free agency contract . . . Sheesh, I hate what the players and owners have done to the game today.

      • unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 5:36 pm

        Funny thing is, it’s about a fucking slide.

  14. alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 2:34 pm

    Giants claim another Rodon,Angel Rodon from the Cardinals.RHP did pitch effectively in brief appearances with Cards.Giants had a open spot with the release of McGoo. Going to AAA for now, he could be used as a long reliever, spot opener, only 24 that’s a postive,like the Z pickup here adding more depth to a pen that could use it eventually..

  15. djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 2:58 pm

    Ivana Trump (73) found dead in her apartment…

    • Flavor said, on July 14, 2022 at 3:28 pm

      good. 1 down. Hopefully more to come.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 14, 2022 at 3:38 pm

        What you said . . . If there’s a God, hopefully the rest are struck by lightening at the funeral.

      • djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 3:42 pm

        Guess you won’t be giving the eulogy…

      • Winder said, on July 14, 2022 at 3:54 pm

        What would the world be like without “The Donald.”

      • unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 5:37 pm

        Hah!!! Now that made me laugh!! Fuck ’em all!!!

  16. willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 3:14 pm

    Thinking about McGee reminds me of opening intro by Cannonball Adderley to live in studio version of Joe Zawinul’s great Mercy Mercy. “you know, sometimes we are not prepared for adversity.”

    The guy saved 31 games last year, pitched 59 innings K’d 58 walked only 10. WHIP was 0.90 and he only gave up 44 hits in those 59 innings worked.
    Now he’s toast, and Alvarez other LHP pen mainstay is on 60 day IL with elbow problem.
    Like Cannon said, Z is just “caught short.”.

    • djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 3:49 pm

      Cool Hand Luke also used that expression when asking permission to take a roadside leak…

  17. djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 3:55 pm

    Heyman says unvaxxed Benintendi now off Yanks wish list.
    Yaz a cheaper solution says me…

    • unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 5:38 pm

      If we are sniffing the 6th spot, we ain’t dealing.

  18. mrsprtdude said, on July 14, 2022 at 5:29 pm

    A local kid who my son knows from the little league was there number one pick a few years ago. He got called up and will start. Nick Prado. Good kid. Hope the KC idiot Hunter Dozier (who plays) 1st gets Wally Pipped!

  19. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 5:40 pm

    Pretto? From Mater Dei, the juggernaut of California high school sports.

  20. willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 6:37 pm

    Pads lost again @Sherpts 8-5. Snell couldn’t get out of 4th inning and walked 6 and soft throwing Crismatt gave up 3 in 6th after Pads had tied game. Giants only 3 behind them, only 1 in loss column..

  21. willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 6:42 pm

    huh no Wilmet. Scratched from lineup due to calf soreness per mlb.com

    • willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 6:43 pm

      “calf tightness.”

  22. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:12 pm

    Are we the worst conditioned team in the league?

  23. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:14 pm

    Fuck McCutcheon BTW

  24. Bozo said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:18 pm

    That wasn’t a strikeout situation, that was a strikeout the side situation.

    • willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:22 pm

      like stuff Satchel Paige used to do right? Sometimes he’d tell OFs to sit down, or wave them off the field and then K the side. Giants lose Rodon I’d miss him more than anyone else on entire team.

      • Bozo said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:30 pm

        I also like that story about Mays hitting a double off of Paige. Satch supposedly said, “That’s all for you today, young ‘un.”
        and struck out Willie in his next 3 ABs.

      • willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:44 pm

        yeah that’s a good one. I’m going to throw you 3 pitches and you’re gonna sit down.

  25. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:29 pm

    I guess we are just old

  26. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:31 pm

    Slick play by Wade there.

  27. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:34 pm

    Rodin is definitely bulldogging it out there. Dude is money.

  28. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:37 pm

    Come on phone. Rodon.

  29. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:38 pm

    Dude plays with his hair too much

    • Bozo said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:42 pm

      Yeah, what is he hiding in there?

  30. willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    Wade is 5-37 since he came back off IL. 1 double 1 HR. Be great to see him get going.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:56 pm

      I was going to ask if anyone knew what was up with Wade. He was such an important part of last year’s success and has oft been cited as a big key to help the team this year. Just doesn’t look comfortable….

      • alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:04 pm

        Tô me Wade never got on track with assorted injuries this year.A lot like when Yaz got plunked on his hand in the last ST game last year.Never has been the same since..

      • xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:23 pm

        Wade’s knee is fucked up. They pumped it full of lubricating fluid just to get him back into minor league rehab play. Not cortisone, or the like, but crank grease normally used to soothe osteoarthritis.

  31. Bozo said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:47 pm

    Must be Christmas in July.

  32. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 7:57 pm

    Shit. Lost my feed. What happened?

  33. alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:01 pm

    Severino needs to get drilled hard next time up!
    Shit disturber in the box, stare down at Rodon on the walk!
    Fuck this guy!

    • xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:18 pm

      maybe just strike him out and smile, huh?

  34. willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:06 pm

    Um isn’t that Gonzalez in Rf, not Wade?

    • willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:07 pm

      not an error but still a dumb play.

  35. willedav said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    YES John that’s Gonzo out there. Tell your boy Kruk too

  36. Macdog said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    Bunted

  37. xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    more proof that Yaz is the only guy on the roster who can play RF competently, esp at home. Gonzalez has a good arm; he likes to use it, no matter what, apparently.

  38. Macdog said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    Was that Gonzo or Wade who hit into the DP?

  39. alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:17 pm

    Gonzalez

  40. xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    Of course, Yaz can play CF, too.

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:28 pm

      Yes he can, although I like him better in RF, no doubt best RFer on the team…

      • xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:36 pm

        the dilemma

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:43 pm

        Slater’s been doing pretty well, but I still think they need to go out and get a real starting CFer..

      • xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:52 pm

        I agree. If only Gonzalez could play CF. He’s spent limited time there this year (34 innings); only OF position where he hasn’t committed an error.

      • James said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:53 pm

        How many real starting CFers are there?

        https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2022-specialpos_cf-fielding.shtml

      • xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:30 pm

        well, that Thomas guy on the DBacks looked good while he was here and I see he’s on top of that list. But I’m not going to dig into it. Fact is, the Giants are weak up the middle on bad days and much better when Crawford, Thairo and Yaz are in there. But, of course, that test is just so dated — goes back all the way to when the game was irrationally exciting.

  41. Macdog said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:44 pm

    Didn’t take Brebbia long to lose the lead.

    • djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:49 pm

      Is that a blown hold?

  42. Macdog said, on July 14, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    Reds took 2 of 3 from Yanks in Bronx, and came close to a sweep. Barrels got RBI single in 10th tonight to make it 7-4, and that was just barely enough of a margin for the Reds’ lousy bullpen to hang on for the win.

  43. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    Fuck. Brebbia gucked up again? Missed it. What happened to Rodon? Too many pitches? In 5???

  44. alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    Rodon just threw too many pitches every inning.
    Like 7 hits and 3 walks it’s a miracle held the Brewers to 1 run.

    Omg do they really need to give that red rhino freak air time?

    • djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:25 pm

      Haven’t seen that fucker all year.
      He was good luck last season.
      And like everyone else on IG he’s got his own merch for sale…

  45. xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:25 pm

    Another great play by Crawford, but Wade did a helluva job stretching out as far as he could to catch that good throw — made the difference.

  46. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:34 pm

    “How many real starting CFers are there?” There are at least some on that list from Baseball Reference, although I see Thairo listed there: total of 2 innings in CF. So, I guess not all *real* starting CFers. I don’t know… wouldn’t have to be Ricky Henderson, I’d settle for the likes of Blanco or Pagan at their best…. even a youngish Kenny Lofton type. But yes, James, I don’t really know who’s out there; just doesn’t seem like it should be impossible to find. And maybe the team doesn’t think it needs one anyway.

    • James said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:55 pm

      Yaz is not an everyday player. He’d make a good platoon with Slater – a better solution than most of that list, as good as Pagan, certainly better than Blanco – but Belt is injured so Wade plays first etc.

      • James said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:02 pm

        “Not an everyday player” …. I guess that’s not quite right, he just shouldn’t bat regularly against lefties.

      • xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:11 pm

        On this team, Yaz is an everyday player.

      • James said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:19 pm

        Yes, the other day I suggested that was a roster miscalculation.

  47. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:45 pm

    DId Crawfish give away another out on the bases? MIller seems to think so.

    • alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:54 pm

      No it was a slow roller to 3rd Crawford was out if he slid are not..

  48. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:52 pm

    fuck

  49. alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 9:52 pm

    They should make the big splash and go after Juan Soto!!

  50. xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    two runs, twelve hits, for the brewers. that’s pulp fiction point blank range luck territory.

  51. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:10 pm

    Villar a bit overmatched these days.

  52. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:11 pm

    Is this our Gott? Didn’t know he ended up in Wisconsin.

  53. djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:11 pm

    “Fouled straight back – he was on it”
    Never really understood that one…

    • unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:13 pm

      Timed it right. Just hit the wrong part of the ball.

      • djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:16 pm

        Okay, I can live with that…

    • xoot said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:15 pm

      that’s when you smell the smoke off the bat, they say

      • djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:17 pm

        Thanks, Xoot…

  54. mrsprtdude said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:15 pm

    Same pitch multiple times. same swing. same result. Augh. Any chance a team has poorer numbers with bases loaded than SF??
    Go Giants!!

  55. alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:16 pm

    I prefer:He squared it up and hit a HR..

  56. djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:18 pm

    Doval at his 20 pitch danger zone…

  57. djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:20 pm

    Doval reminds me of Felix in decline circa 2002…

    • djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:22 pm

      Has trouble finishing guys off…

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:26 pm

      Still a little painful to remember that game 6…..

  58. mrsprtdude said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:23 pm

    he needs to pay Romo to teach him once in a while a back door slider works

  59. djloo27 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:24 pm

    AAAAAAaaaaaaaaAAAAAAnddddd Estrada got him!

  60. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:27 pm

    Miller is getting real annoying trying to say what is happening. The play is over and done and he’s still struggling to spit out what occurred,

  61. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:29 pm

    He hit 50 pitches?

  62. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:29 pm

    Fuck. Pull him.

  63. mrsprtdude said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:31 pm

    maybe the good luck we had last year evening out? Weak as grounder does us in again. Happens to us a LOT!

  64. Bozo said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:32 pm

    You know, with the kinda stuff Duval has, it shouldn’t be this difficult this often.

  65. alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:32 pm

    Ghost runner time o joy!
    Bunt anyone doubt it why get a guy over to 3 rd with one out

  66. alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:36 pm

    Way to be heads up Yaz!

  67. Macdog said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:38 pm

    Yaz stole 3rd one batter too late.

  68. Bozo said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:39 pm

    Come on Late Night.

  69. unca_chuck said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    Love it when Wynns is our guy off the bench. Oh Donnie, we miss ya.

  70. Winder said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    There goes another one.

  71. snarkk said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    Giants really not good in extra innings. They’re inability to get consistent contact really shows there…

  72. Bozo said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    Dog shit.

  73. alleykat69 said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:42 pm

    The difference was Williams is a better pitcher then Doval when it comes to extra innings..

  74. James said, on July 14, 2022 at 10:44 pm

    Rodon was gifted two runs against a dominant opponent and threw way too many pitches against some shitty hitters. That was the ballgame.


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