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Time To Pile Up Wins

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 21, 2022

RIght outta the gate we get LA. We line up our stud Rodon. It’s odd they are starting White. I mean, they could have juggled their rotation for this series. It’s almost disrespectful to the rivalry to start this dude in Game 1.

Del Mar starts tomorrow, gents. Oh my. Wish i could be there. No better place in the entire world than opening day Del Mar in July…..

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  1. willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:20 am

    Giants give Dogs pretty hard time and whipped them earlier in SF. Dogs have amazing numbers stat wise:
    on offense, #1 NL for runs, 4th HRs, #2 BA, #1OB, #2 slugging, #1OPS and park adjusted OPS+.
    pitching: #1 for ERA runs allowed hits and BBs given up.
    Good thing game is played on field.

    One last thing about “what worked in 2021”: it doesn’t seem like any team can repeat in major sports these days, for variety of reasons (though Braves certainly have a shot). One is that other teams come after you differently and now target is on your back. Another is that they look to improve with goal of taking you down. Health is certainly a major factor, but LA has had its share of injuries too–Taylor and Buehler out right now. and Betts missed time on IL too while they scrambled to fill OF and did their share of platooning. They are 60-30 and probably still trying to add at deadline.

  2. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:57 am

    Think the Dogs will be gunning for Soto? I’m sure they’ll go for it.

    I’m real interested to see how the Warriors season goes. Klay Steph and Dray are getting up there, and it appears they have their reserves at the ready, but the whole Wiseman thing is huge. He and Kuminga could be anything from spectacular to very little.

  3. Flavor said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:04 am

    one thing we know about the Tigers: they always, 100% of the time, lose trades. So we should be actively trying to pick up one of their stud relievers and be prepared to not miss the guy we trade at all

    • willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:33 am

      that was Brisbee’s #1 move in Athletic mail bag column, acquiring one of Tigers pen guys.
      Btw Melissa Lockerd (great rundown of everyone SF drafted in Athletic) said in reply to comment that drafted pitchers tend to move up faster than hitters do. Out of Z draftees, it seems Kyle Harrison on quickest path to majors, faster than Luciano crowd from previous regime currently in High A Eugene..

      • Flavor said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:20 am

        well it’s nice to see Brisbee coming around to my way of thinking. 🙂 Al Avilia is an idiot. We should fleece him the same way others do.

  4. Winder said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:12 am

    It wouldn’t surprise me if we stayed pat and just waited on our minor league system to come through next year. We don’t really have a lot of trade bait and spending a lot of money is probably out of the question.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 11:41 am

      We’ll do something. It’ll be a couple mid-level relievers, and maybe an OFer.

  5. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 12:00 pm

    Starting with the Dogs is a good way to gauge how this 2nd half goes. Got the starters lined up and the hope is Junis gets back into the rotation. No more pen games.

  6. alleykat69 said, on July 21, 2022 at 12:32 pm

    I think they will go with infield depth but with a player that can play outfield as well in Brandon Drury from the Reds, and while their on the phones might as well see what they want for SP Castillo.If not him, then yeah a couple veteran BP guys would help as well..

    Yeah as much as I would crave for a generational player like Soto,Joc said it right Giants just don’t have the players to offer Nats. Can’t see Z/H gutting the farm prospects he has built up, besides ownership won’t allow an big splash till they get the big contracts off the books.

  7. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 12:35 pm

    I question the value of possibly squeaking into a WC with this bunch and hoping to knock off the free spenders who will pay anything to get what they need. Maybe those are the teams Z should try to fleece for some young talent. Rodon, Yaz, Mr. Ed, and a couple others all have some value.
    Next season Crawford will be our last remaining geezer…

    • unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 1:06 pm

      2.5 good pitching performances go a long way in the playoffs. It’s the battle cry of the expanded playoff system.

      • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 1:47 pm

        True enough, Chuck – but this year the defense, the bullpen and the core have regressed so much…

      • willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 2:53 pm

        I think Loo is right and teams out there would take Joc Yaz, Rodon (who is gonna walk) definitely. WC matchup is now 2 out 3. OK so Giants squeak in burn up Rodon and Webb, then what? Can you beat Braves or Mets or LA with Wood and back end rotation and pen???? Giants don’t have prospects except couple untouchables to improve team much. Others do and will get better at deadline.

      • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:11 pm

        Thanks Willie, I always forget Joc – who needs to get it going.
        Jarlin has some appeal, too…

    • Flavor said, on July 21, 2022 at 2:21 pm

      i agree to a point but what else do we have to do? If they make it to the post season I’ll be stoked.

  8. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 1:45 pm

    Mumblings out there about porn star Jizz Chisolm being available for trade by the Marlins. Sure we have Estrada, but Stella-Loser will soon be gone and he would be big upgrade. I wonder what they’d want (a boatload of minor leaguers), but he’s got pop. Lefty though.

    Under control till 2027 so i doubt it happens, but WTF? Ye olde tire kicking session.

    • Flavor said, on July 21, 2022 at 2:22 pm

      supposedly he’s got an attitude problem. But he’d be a huge upgrade for our offense assuming he’s not too much of an ass hat.

      • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:02 pm

        If I had a bucket list, Del Mar would be on it.
        Will Clark day in your plans, Flavor?

    • willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:03 pm

      They are stuck with LaStella for another year after this one at $11.5 mil iirc. He ain’t going anywhere unless Giants pay another team to take him. Highly doubt this ends like Rowand did with him getting released.
      Cost Nukes his job too.

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 4:51 pm

      You’re more or less available the day you become a Marlin…

  9. willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 2:58 pm

    Other reason I agree with Loo on getting what you can now–I don’t think Z does anything big for next year either and rides out Crawford/buys out Longoria or takes $5mil team option and keeps him. And has to rebuild SPs again without Rodon. In other words, ceiling is bottom end of WC, til his prospects hopefully hit 2024-5.

  10. willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:07 pm

    Tigers pen guys in process of trying to close out A’s as we speak in first of two today in Oaktown..
    Montas goes in 2nd. Love for SF to be able to pry him or Laureano away from them.

  11. mrsprtdude said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:10 pm

    Why are the SF top picks on offense so bad? Our top picks spend 5 years in minors. Other studs move up quick. Imagine if the Nats were careful with soto the way we are he would still be in the minors!

  12. zumiee said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:16 pm

    “No better place in the entire world than opening day Del Mar in July…..”

    For people who aren’t horse-racing fans, it actually ranks #784,362.

  13. zumiee said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:19 pm

    People refer to the “3rd place Giants.” The Padres are ahead by one game in the loss column, and we know how the Padres sank like a stone in the second half last season. I think there’s a strong chance that the Giants finish ahead of the Padres again.

  14. zumiee said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:29 pm

    The sports media world is in full Jeter-gasm mode. I just will never get it. Sure, he had a terrific career, and won 5 championships. But he played his entire career on very talented teams. He never had to really pull a team to the finish line, like some other players had to do over the years. If he wasn’t a Yankee, he would not be this adored by the media. He gives very measured and bland interviews. Frankly, he’s just not an interesting player. The sports media world will never understand how little the rest of us care about Jeter.

    • zumiee said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:31 pm

      And the jump-throw from the hole at shortstop was done by others before him. Concepcion did it for the Reds.

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 4:43 pm

      Jeter was a colossal bore, Zum. Kids revered him and while the older fans respected him they never loved him like Mattingly, Munson, Mantle, and so many other colorful and clutch players. I doubt his bland interviews endeared him to the local media, but in his defense he was a good leader (I hear) and you don’t get 3,500 hits by accident…

      • Flavor said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:08 pm

        dude my ex-girlfriend Rebecca won’t shut up about him to this day. Wanted to fuck him constantly. I didn’t care as he didn’t seem like an actual threat to me at the time 🙂

      • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:46 pm

        He never gave me a winner on the turf…

  15. zumiee said, on July 21, 2022 at 3:33 pm

    Posey winning 3 championships with the Giants is far more impressive than Jeter winning 5 with the Yankees.

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 4:44 pm

      Completely agree…

  16. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 4:27 pm

    Yeah, I’ll buy that. Buster may not have the numbers, but I think his popularity gets him into the HoF.

    Unless this team absolutely craters from now to Aug 2nd (13 games – Dogs, Snakes, Cubbies, Dogs) they ain’t selling.

  17. xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 4:28 pm

    Trevor Rosenthal put on a showcase workout last month and impressed a bunch of teams. Immediately after the session, his hamstring seized. So he joins the Giants on the IL. But as some tweeter pointed out, they gave up no prospect to get him. The deadline may be a wild one.

    • Flavor said, on July 21, 2022 at 4:40 pm

      100% in on this deal. Why not?

      • xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 4:54 pm

        I agree, and I hope I’m right that this is just the start of some real activity.

      • xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 4:56 pm

        Of course, I felt that way after they signed Rodon.

  18. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 5:05 pm

    1. LaMonte Wade Jr. (L) DH
    2. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
    3. Wilmer Flores (R) 2B
    4. Joc Pederson (L) LF
    5. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
    6. Luis Gonzalez (L) RF
    7. Thairo Estrada (R) SS
    8. Mike Yastrzemski (L) CF
    9. Austin Wynns (R) C

    P: Rodon (L)

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 6:16 pm

      I think it would’ve taken me 40 tries to guess tonight’s game time…

  19. Flavor said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:06 pm

    gentlemen. Is it your collective opinion that our free link to the game (Streameast) is now dead?

    • unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:31 pm

      Yeah, it has been spotty for a week and now it is gone.

  20. willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:21 pm

    Ouch.

    • James said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:24 pm

      A completely unnecessary run allowed.

    • xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:35 pm

      target up and in, pitch middle middle. Terrible FB mistake — to FF 0-2, no less.

  21. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:32 pm

    Of course the fucking all star game worked . . .

  22. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:33 pm

    Shit. what happened?

    • willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:35 pm

      0-2 meatball to Freeman and he smoked it over CF fence.

  23. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:42 pm

    Cue the Benny Hill music.

  24. xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    wtf was wynns back behind the plate as the throw came in? Not a horrible throw, either.

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:48 pm

      It was almost as if he thought the play had nothing to do with him…

    • alleykat69 said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:50 pm

      Throw hit the runner in the leg, not much chance on that one,the problem was more giving up a 2 out hit to Thompson who’s on like his 3rd stint with this team.He stinks and was clearly overmatched on 2 he chased in the dirt, then he Rodon lays in some belt high slop that anyone would of raked.

      • xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:59 pm

        the throw hit the runner low in the leg as he slid — if Wynns had been in some reasonable facsimile of position he might have been able to catch and swipe.

  25. Macdog said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    Rodon can’t even get out the chumps in this lineup.

  26. Giant Head said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:47 pm

    God awful throw by Estrada….should have been out by a mile.

  27. Giant Head said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:49 pm

    Of course wtf was Wynns doing????

  28. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:49 pm

    Dodgers give out Puig’s #66 like it’s nothing…

    • alleykat69 said, on July 21, 2022 at 7:59 pm

      They haven’t bothered to retire Valenzuela’ number who’s more deserving…

      • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:07 pm

        As Trea Turner runs around with Garvey’s #6…

    • unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:07 pm

      It is nothing.

  29. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:09 pm

    Big fat no to Rodon. He’s got an annoying habit of throwing 30 pitches an inning.

  30. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    Whatever happened to the term “spin rate?”
    Not that I miss it…

  31. Macdog said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    Good to see the Giants have cleaned things up during the break.

  32. willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    yikes. I was just thinking if Rodon could get out of this and hold Dogs to 2 runs/6 innings….

  33. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:12 pm

  34. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:12 pm

    Sell.

  35. alleykat69 said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    Freaking Gonzalez is the worst outfielder I’ve ever seen as a Giant..

  36. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:13 pm

  37. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    Rodon and Gonzo might mix it up in the dugout…

  38. Macdog said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    Well, I gotta get up early tomorrow anyway.

  39. Macdog said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    Well, I gotta get up early tomorrow anyway.

  40. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:17 pm

    Game over, man.

  41. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:21 pm

  42. xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:22 pm

    Oh, man. Gonzalez’s overly dramatic spread of his arms when he lost the ball in the late light made that fuckup seem even worse than it was. The basin still stinks, but the smog’s better than it used to be.

    I’m okay with retiring Will’s number, but why has everyone forgotten Jeff Kent? Because he doesn’t get along with the owners?

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:28 pm

      I haven’t.
      It’s a fuckin disgrace.
      His Giant career was every bit as good as Clark’s and maybe even Cepeda’s.
      Maybe cause it was only 6 seasons long is their excuse…

  43. mrsprtdude said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    Confused why no love for Rondon? All star level pitching. Top 10 in NL RIGHT NOW. THE ONLY PLAYER SEEMINGLY PISSED AT HOW BAD WE ARE! Should be 2-0, maybe 1-0. Gonzales fucked up that play bad. Lets bring back the shit on Belt. 2 straight walks vs a struggling rookie and swings weakly at every pitch to end the inning. FUCK!
    I’m not saying we should sign Rondon to a fat contract, but all the SF issues Rondon near the bottom of the list..

    • willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:38 pm

      this is what Baggs said on twitter: “If Carlos Rodon had the Dodgers OF defense instead of the Giants OF defense it’d be 1-0 instead of 5-0.” I like Rodon but he’s had some “location mistakes” of his own tonight.

  44. xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:37 pm

    Wynns Against Replacement — I don’t think negative numbers go so low. It’d be like a black hole. (Wilmer’s backhand stab wasn’t great, but, it’s Wilmer at 2B. Make a good throw.)

    • willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:39 pm

      ha good one. “wynns against replacement”

  45. snarkk said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    Aaaaand, the ClusterF Giants D continues…

  46. alleykat69 said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    Nothing like coming off the break and getting no- hit by a Relief Pitcher..

  47. Bozo said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    It looks like the Miami jersey guy is now a franchise.

  48. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:51 pm

    Even when Rodon throws well he’s at 90 pitches in the 5th inning. Annoying

    • alleykat69 said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:00 pm

      U can blame a shitload more of pitches thrown cause of ATPOG( Allergic To Play Outfield Gonzalez)

  49. Macdog said, on July 21, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    WAR (haha) gets the 1st hit! The last bit of drama is over.

  50. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    Got Wordle in 2, kids…

  51. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:29 pm

    A fucking scrub is shutting us down. Great. At least this wasn’t Webb.

  52. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:39 pm

    Ruf is the guy I would want up here…

    • Macdog said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:40 pm

      Great call!

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:40 pm

      And that’s why motherfuckers!

  53. xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:40 pm

    All Beef Hooked.

  54. willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:40 pm

    Whoa

    • willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:43 pm

      Gonna be mad scramble for pen help across baseball. Get bids in early.

  55. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:42 pm

    Fuck LA!!!

  56. alleykat69 said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:46 pm

    Ruf doesn’t chase like Mercedes does, that was the difference..

  57. xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    maybe those strobing cellphone lights in the stands illuminated the ball just a bit more

  58. alleykat69 said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:49 pm

    Brebbia Alsle is not fooling anyone, what else is new?

  59. willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 9:51 pm

    Brebbia aisle, yeow.
    Exit velo is another useless tiresome stat.
    What was velo on line drive McCovey hit right to Richardson? Irrelevant.
    Luis Gonzalez of AZ beat Mariano Rivera with a bloop single over drawn in IF, and that was end of that WS.

  60. willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:05 pm

    Man hope that guy standing up in Posey uni makes it out alive.

  61. xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:05 pm

    It was the best of teams, it was the worst of teams.

  62. James said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:09 pm

    How did Bart miss both of them?!

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:17 pm

      Because that’s what .183 hitters do?

  63. mrsprtdude said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:09 pm

    Lets GO!!! Pissed at another bases loaded fail, but a minute ago it was 5-0 and a no hitter so things looking up!

  64. mrsprtdude said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:10 pm

    James Bart has been better, but needs coaching to shorten his swing there. Swung for a homer when we needed contact!

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:14 pm

      Not good enough…

  65. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:13 pm

    The great KC & ND linebacker Jim Lynch has died at 76…

    • willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:27 pm

      oh that’s too bad. part of tremendous trio of LBs Chiefs had.

      • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:31 pm

        Best ever…

  66. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:21 pm

    What a surprise…

  67. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:22 pm

    Catchable?

    • djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:24 pm

      No, hitable…

      • unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:25 pm

        I think I’ve heard ‘hanging slider’ about 5,000 times this year.

    • willedav said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:26 pm

      mm don’t think so.
      Lux is fast becoming pain.

  68. djloo27 said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:23 pm

    I’ve been in port-a-potties bigger than that ESPN booth…

  69. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    Fucking Bellinger. This guy’s always up at the wrong time.

  70. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    He could be hitting -.087 and beat us.

  71. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:28 pm

    Just what your reliever should do. Jesus.

  72. mrsprtdude said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:29 pm

    GRRRR!

  73. unca_chuck said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:30 pm

    Wow. What a catastrophe.

  74. mrsprtdude said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:32 pm

    FUCKING SHIT.

  75. xoot said, on July 21, 2022 at 10:34 pm

    “the bullpen has been part of their Achilles heel” — that may be the best AH cliche maiming I’ve ever heard. Who is that espn hack?

    What a team, though.


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