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Running on Fumes

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 11, 2022

Another day off. The pen arms could use that. But it won’t matter. I wonder if Z made an offer to the Tigers for one of their BP arms?

We’ll never know.

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  1. unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2022 at 8:45 am

    Defense and relief pitching. And walking the 9th place hitter. That elusive shutdown inning. Score 3 give up 6. Score 3 give up 7.


  2. willedav said, on August 11, 2022 at 9:00 am

    Another side to pen issue is SP getting lit up early; it’s mostly 5 inning guys to begin with. Sure pen depth is nowhere near enough there as these guys are zapped in August, but Z has to add quality depth to rotation, beyond DeSclafani. Especially if he is unable/unwilling to keep Rodon.

    • Flavor said, on August 11, 2022 at 9:10 am

      well, he ditched Matt Boyd for no reason. That guy could have turned into a long relief guy. He’s pitching to live hitters this week so Seattle obviously sees value in him for the stretch run.

      • willedav said, on August 11, 2022 at 9:32 am

        Yeah kinda surprised he gave up on him and Rosenthal.

  3. unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2022 at 9:48 am

    Well, can we make up ground against the Bucs and Snakes? 7 at home vs them.

    if they go 5-2 it would help a little. Then Colo Det and Min on the road. Got to get some kind of decent play going consistently. Treading water will not abide.

  4. snarkk said, on August 11, 2022 at 10:00 am

    Pen ERA per KNBR this morning is up over last year’s by over 1.5 rpg…

  5. snarkk said, on August 11, 2022 at 11:11 am

    Braves called up their system’s top prospect, Vaughn Grissom, last night.
    Plays 2b. 6’3′”, 210.
    Hit an HR in his first game. We’ll see how he does.
    But, they drafted him out of high school in 2019. He’s 21, up after 3 years in the system, with a minor leagues lost Covid year in that mix.
    Why is it that other teams continue to draft top talent, develop them quickly, and bring them to the big club — — but the Giants system can’t seem to do it. Bum was the last phenom that panned out. Giants bring up dudes like Duggar, Slater, now Villar (age 25). Ramos, hyped beyond recognition for a couple years, is almost 23, and flailing in AAA. I get it that Farhan’s draftees are still working thru the system, but I should think at least one of them from his first draft of 2019 should be in AAA tearing it up by now…

    • xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 12:25 pm

      Giants did well with guys out of college — Posey & Lincecum, obviously, but Crawford, Panik & Belt were all up in about three years after their drafts. Cain out of HS in 2002 made it in 2005. Lately? No. Although they signed Luciano very young.

  6. unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2022 at 11:43 am

    Webb was drafted out of Rocklin HS in 2014. He didn’t exactly blaze his way up here, but he’s a damn good pitcher now.

  7. snarkk said, on August 11, 2022 at 12:27 pm

    A blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
    Some orgs have a pipeline of continuing minor league talent replenishing the big club, and providing substantial trade possibilities. Giants, no.

    • xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 12:46 pm

      well, Wheeler and Reynolds had trade value. A lot more than the Giants realized. And spending first round picks on Beede and Bart (a number two, no less) does hurt.

    • djloo27 said, on August 11, 2022 at 8:33 pm

      Let’s not forget that during the 3 in 5 stretch the minor leaguers we gave up for guys like Pence, Freddy, Scutaro, etc did shit far as I know. Was bound to catch up with us, right?

  8. unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2022 at 12:36 pm

    Well, no shit. We all know the failings of the last 8 drafts under Sabevans. And these guys like Posey or Will Clark or even Tatis Jr that hit the ground running are few and far between.

    Of all the drafts, MLB is by far the biggest crapshoot. Not giving them a pass, but any draft usually takes 2-3 years to pan out. This is why I think the team doesn’t hat the FA market that hard next season. They are gonna weed through the guys they have in AA-AAA.

  9. willedav said, on August 11, 2022 at 12:41 pm

    Harrison (turns 21 tomorrow) might be next; could easily be pitching for Giants at some point next season, maybe out of ST. At Richmond so far he’s thrown 86 innings in 19 starts, so probably winds up plus or minus 100 innings altogether
    At that rate he could make 20+ starts, either all for SF or in some minors/majors combo next year.

    • xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 3:26 pm

      Bednar’s looking ok. Ramos and Matos are flat-out floundering.

  10. blade3colorado said, on August 11, 2022 at 1:37 pm

    This video of Bozo’s band, Polkacide, and him playing drums deserves to be shown again.

    • alleykat69 said, on August 11, 2022 at 1:56 pm

      That was awesome 👏!! Kilbesa Beer &Sauerkraut!!
      Great find Blade!! That audience was totally into it jumping around!!
      Bozo on drums nailing it bigtime! Jeez a Sax,Trombone,Trumpet,Accordion,Guitars,Piccolo what’s not to like 👍 Damm time to get the band back together Clown 🤡 great stuff!

    • Winder said, on August 11, 2022 at 2:40 pm

      What fun.

    • xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 3:45 pm

      I recall Bozo’s avatar in the early days with that hat. Serious question: did audiences ever actually polka at your gigs? At Los Lobos shows in the early 80s, the cholos and cholas would commandeer the floor and dance magnificently when the band launched into a polka norteña.

      • Bozo said, on August 11, 2022 at 6:46 pm

        Still is my avatar, Xoot. That photo was from a Chicago festival called A taste of Polonia, the tee shirt says Beer is my fuel in Polish.
        At the rock clubs, very few would actually polka dance but some of the festivals that we played would see some polka dancers, but our tempos were pretty amped up, so it made the dance inherently dangerous. 🙂

      • xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 7:33 pm

        oh, hell. there it is! phone screens, old-timers disease.

        this puzzles me but may mean something to you: my cousin’s son grew up a drummer, attended an arts school in SF, while in HS played drums for a very adult rock band at the boom boom room (his mother had to be at every gig becz of his age), phi beta kappa’d in music & history at UCDavis (jazz band, etc.) while playing in a punk band in Sac, went to law school at UCLA, took a job as a staff attorney at the IRS — and then recently showed up playing and recording again (w/ Burnzio and Kiss My Frequency), all the while pushing cases for the IRS.

      • Bozo said, on August 11, 2022 at 7:46 pm

        Good for your cousin’s son, gotta pay the bills. For years I played in a Jump vocal swing band called On the Air and the leader of that band also worked for the IRS. I retired from FRBSF, made enough money playing music that I had to file taxes on it but not enough to only do that for a living. I applaud all that can make their living just playing music.

      • djloo27 said, on August 11, 2022 at 8:36 pm


    • Bozo said, on August 11, 2022 at 6:36 pm

      Thanks all, that was a lifetime ago. The band was started kind of as a joke to do a 1 time benefit for the SF Club for the Deaf but it got canceled so we played the Mab instead and went on from there.
      And yeah Kat, Kielbasa, beer and sauerkraut, what could be better than that? I gotta tell ya though, that polka life can be a mean ol’ life.

  11. xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 2:51 pm

    oh, man.

    • Flavor said, on August 11, 2022 at 3:13 pm

      His brother died a couple years ago too. Awful.

    • xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 3:29 pm

      yeah. This grievous loss occurred a couple months ago but local obits (Burlingame, peninsula generally) didn’t mention her relationship with Lincecum. That fact just appeared today. Looks like astonishing gallantry to me, but more important — so young.

  12. willedav said, on August 11, 2022 at 3:28 pm

    Found story online in SF Gate that said she (Cristin Coleman) died June 27 of cancer, according to San Mateo Journal. she was elementary school teacher in Burlingame. They (Gate) had pic of them together from 2012 parade. Very sad.

  13. xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 3:59 pm

    I saw a tweet today that said the field of dreams game is ok, but wouldn’t it be really great if every season every mlb team played one of its home games at one of its minor league ballparks?

  14. unca_chuck said, on August 11, 2022 at 4:05 pm

    Yeah, saw that today. Very sad.

  15. snarkk said, on August 11, 2022 at 5:53 pm

    I had no idea he was even married !
    Did any of you guys know?
    I can barely process this…

  16. Bozo said, on August 11, 2022 at 6:51 pm

    Like Snarkk, I had no clue Tim was married. Man, what terrible news.

  17. mrsprtdude said, on August 11, 2022 at 7:24 pm

    They have been together a long time. Married in may, and she passed in June. Battled cancer for a year. A loving gesture by a cool dude.

    • djloo27 said, on August 11, 2022 at 9:38 pm

      We’re all just hanging by a thread…

  18. mrsprtdude said, on August 11, 2022 at 9:16 pm

    Discussing Rogers in an Athletic article….Because if you can believe it, there are a couple of points in Rogers’ favor this season. Not only is his exit velocity down this year, but it’s still a 99th-percentile exit velocity. Then there’s the rate at which he allows home runs, which is still one of the lowest in baseball, even after he allowed a walk-off home run to Manny Machado earlier this week.

    No pitcher in baseball allows weaker contact, and if that doesn’t at least make you curious, you lack imagination. That doesn’t mean he’s been secretly good this season, or that he’s ever guaranteed to prevent runs anywhere close to the way he did in 2021, but it’s more of a foundation than a lot of pitchers offer…

    Their theory might be that the batters are getting used to him and not swinging as much at balls they swung at last year. Reminds me of Romo’s slider. It was same pitch, batters just swung at it less when it was leaving the zone…

    • djloo27 said, on August 11, 2022 at 9:37 pm

      That is a lucid, well thought-out, intelligent observation…

  19. xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 9:26 pm

    PSAs. The Sporting Green editor for a while now is a celebrated trans sports journo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Kahrl

    And what the hell is that material Trump kept in his Fla. safe months after the DOJ subpoena’d it? You know, you can shred or burn. Sort of like taking the fifth. So why hold onto it?

    • djloo27 said, on August 11, 2022 at 9:57 pm

      Being trans is one helluva commitment.
      Seems like an awful lot of trouble…

      • xoot said, on August 11, 2022 at 10:34 pm

        the trans people I know don’t seem to see it that way. True note: I worked with a trans judge, i think maybe the first in the USA, on a bar association thing, and one monday night she was somewhat distracted by NFL updates on her phone. Someone told me she’d been a linebacker in HS.

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