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Bent Over In Minnesota

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 27, 2022

Another headline subtly referencing something that might have happened in the underbelly of an after hours Minnesota tavern circa 1975?

Anyway, our march back towards .500 took a big hit last night…

Read last night’s comments just now.

I haven’t heard a peep from anywhere about Kap losing the team in any way whatsoever. Maybe I’ve missed a story on that? That would be unlikely. Did a story on him getting tuned out by the players come out in the last 24-36 hours?

Look, we stink. We have 2 reliable starting pitchers, a leaky bullpen, porous defense and, as Tolbert threw in Zaidi’s face the other day, no middle of the order at all. Getting to .500 should be our World Series this year. It’s the best we can hope for.

Zaidi starts Year 5 of his reign next year right? A clear direction for the franchise needs to unfold starting next season. Right now we just have a bunch of the same underwhelming dudes doddling around out there and a minor league system that doesn’t seem to be offering anything at all………

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  1. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 7:18 am

    Watched some of Yanks at A’s last couple nights. Wandy Peralta got save for Yanks last night in 3-2 W, highlighted by judge 3 run bomb over CF fence to break up scoreless game in 5th. Peralta now has 3 saves and ERA under 3.00…Giants dealt him to Yanks for Tauchman.
    Less than 16 thou there last night–days before there were at least that many Yanks fan there alone.
    Night before Yanks had 20 hits (16 singles 0 bombs) in 13-4 route behind Cole. A’s ended game with IF Neuse on mound. Watching Wynnns pitch for SF disgusting.

  2. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 7:26 am

    Still see complaints about Kap losing the team once he went public about anthem but that’s non issue. in reality he hever had a team to lose–it’s been win a few lose a few, lose a few more ever since hot start in April. Kapspin I can’t abide but he doesn’t have enough to work with, in pen or in back up replacements for his injured and unproductive old farts. Davis might work.

    There are highlights in farm (Baggs had nice column about Vaun Brown in Athletic) but almost all are in AA ball. I could see Harrison get some innings with SF next year but likely on innings limit.

    • Flavor said, on August 27, 2022 at 7:29 am

      Going into the 5th year of Zaidi’s reign shouldn’t we have more to look forward to in 2023 in terms of minor league talent making it to SF?

      • willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 7:42 am

        Oh sure and it’s certainly fair to question farm for draft (Bailey Bishop etc.) and lack of development under Haines. Webb’s made it through system, Doval and Bart as well. Dunno what happened to Ramos or why he hasn’t seen more run–Z never got Kap a RH OF to platoon or play everyday, which was a fail. Villar might work too, high OB/line drive hitter, maybe Vosler as well. Covid year lost in 2020 really did screw things up for Giants, though I get it affected everyone. Pitching has been bigger problem, as Z has had to go out and get SPs (and spent $$) and pen guys, not all of whom have worked out, or are just burned out.

  3. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 7:56 am

    Balanced sched of interest? lot of back n forth among Giants fan bloggers who don’t give rat’s ass about Twins or other random AL teams, though most agree seeing couple less series vs. Rox and DBax is OK. Since I don’t follow random AL teams like fantasy guys do for who is good/who isn’t, I think it’s cool. Given current state of Dodgers and their budget, isn’t gonna hurt to see them less either, though I think Brisbee didn’t see it that way, preferring to keep more games vs. hated rivals.

  4. Bozo said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:14 am

    Final year of Zaidi’s contract, figure he has to get busy unless he wants to move on.

    For Minneapolis dive bars I always liked Mayslack’s Polka Lounge (I think it’s just called Mayslack’s now). Strong drinks, music and garlic roast beef sandwiches, I asked Stix if he had ever been in there, but he never answered me about it,

    • Flavor said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:18 am

      no surprise. Admitting he’d been there might implicate him in something larger, darker. Stix stays off that grid, man.

      • Winder said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:29 am

        Lol.

      • Bozo said, on August 27, 2022 at 11:23 am

        Hah, yeah you right, Flav.

  5. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:55 am

    Balanced sched also means more AL road trips. Getting used to Javy and Estes with Flems, not bad combo. Less Miller too whom I guess is on radio more. Admire Krukow’s determination to get to as many games as he can, just wonder how much longer the both of them will continue together as lead announcers at home.

  6. Macdog said, on August 27, 2022 at 10:00 am

    Heading into NYC for Mets Old Timers Day later today, then Mets-Rox. I’ll save my applause for Kevin Mitchell. Of course every day is Old Timers Day for our squad.

    • willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 10:55 am

      lulz. Hey Mac, cousin of neighbor of mine from Dallas area went to Trenton minor league park with husband and got some pictures taken with golden retriever batdog mascot. Ever been there for games? AAA affiliate I guess dunno for whom. Think they were more into dog than the baseball.

      • Macdog said, on August 27, 2022 at 11:04 am

        Haven’t been to the Trenton park in years, yeah they still have the Bat Dog. The Thunder used to be Yanks affiliate, they might be an independent team now.

    • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 12:25 pm

      Don’t ignore Ken McKenzie, Mac!

  7. djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 11:55 am

    I have an amazing record of never giving out a winner here.
    Final attempt: Zandon in the Travers about 3 hours from now…

    • willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 12:55 pm

      good luck to you and Flavien Prat. Geroux hasn’t had much luck at Del Mar, 7 winners in 92 mounts, sitting 9th in jockey standings, 38% itm.

  8. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 1:07 pm

    Slush said Luis Gonzalez back up and in Minnesota. Worked on closing stance a bit, other things. Z likes high OB guys; if he can cut down on baserunning and fielding gaffes might be productive player.

  9. xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 1:37 pm

    Just heard an interview with Rosco Gordon. On tour in Europe, in one town, his backing band consisted of three accordions. “No More Doggin’ — with three accordions! Not one accordion. Three accordions! Worst gig I ever had.”

    • Bozo said, on August 27, 2022 at 1:58 pm

      Hah, no doubt it was a tough gig.

    • xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 2:17 pm

      Lennon and McCartney owed Rosco a small fortune for this “birthday” riff.

  10. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 2:35 pm

    told story bunch of times, being at Mel’s Bowl Redwood City for company seminar, which I ditched to watch 2000 NLDS game vs. Mets inside the alley, as J T Snow homered off Armando Benitez to tie game. Then ex Giant Darryl Hamilton singled off Felix Rodriguez to start 10th and Giants eventually lost. Hamilton was shot and killed in domestic dispute and died at age 50.

  11. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:00 pm

    Shea said Mets retired Mays #24–was that done at the park, where Mac is?

    • willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:02 pm

      cbs site says they did and showed vid highlights (si.com) of Mays in Giants days, etc. wow nice!

  12. xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:18 pm

    At this rate, Sonny Gray will no hit the Giants through five and get pulled for pitch count.

  13. mrsprtdude said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:49 pm

    Just looked at the box. Bart hitting 9th? WTF!!!! Kap may not have lost the players but he is loosing me!

  14. mrsprtdude said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:53 pm

    LOL. Slater picked off? We must be the worst fundamental team in baseball in decades!

  15. snarkk said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:54 pm

    Bart breaks up the no no…

  16. xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:55 pm

    Joey!

  17. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:55 pm

    And Bart breaks that up with line drive rocket.

  18. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:56 pm

    ribbie for LaStella, well done.

  19. snarkk said, on August 27, 2022 at 5:56 pm

    Gyros Score a run.
    Yay…

  20. mrsprtdude said, on August 27, 2022 at 6:10 pm

    Not sure if kap has lost the players but he is losing me for sure if he keeps batting Bart 9th. Does he not watch the games? Honestly Bart might be our most exciting hitter. The only exciting hitter. Kap / Idiot!

    • willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 6:18 pm

      He’s obsessed with going L/R. After LaStella, then Wade it’s all L/R down to Bart at 9th. zzzz

  21. snarkk said, on August 27, 2022 at 6:20 pm

    Think I may start calling Yazstremski the full Yazstremski. He ain’t hittin like the original Yaz…

  22. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 6:26 pm

    Wow nice play by Wilmet.

  23. Macdog said, on August 27, 2022 at 7:54 pm

    Yes, Mets retired Mays’ #24, had nice video tribute showing highlights from NY and SF career. Willie’s son Michael was there to represent him and threw the first pitch.

    • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:23 pm

      I’ve always wondered about how close Mays and McCovey were or weren’t.
      I don’t feel like Mays was especially close to any of his teammates.
      Maybe Kokonuts would have some insight but he ditched us…

      • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:35 pm

        As did many others – San Dawg, Wilco, Dirt, etc.
        In old Brooklyn we called ’em “flat-leavers.”
        In this case “Flap-leavers”…

  24. Bozo said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    Dammit.

    • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:53 pm

      Janet…

  25. xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:41 pm

    Doval has thrown a dozen pitches a foot off the plate so far.

  26. Macdog said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:51 pm

    Following on phone, did Gonzo have another brain fart on the bases?

    • xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:55 pm

      saw that too on gameday — grounder to SS, out at 3B???

  27. djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    Duran Duran – very underrated…

  28. xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:56 pm

    Oh, Leone’s in. No problem now.

  29. djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    Dumb Twin MF didn’t know what base the ghost runner occupies…

  30. djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:05 pm

  31. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    Maybe Davis really should pitch.

  32. djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:07 pm

  33. xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    Kapler set up the force play at home so beautifully. This is dark comedy at its best.

    • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:12 pm

      OUATIH is better.
      Using the flamethrower from The 14 Fists Of McCluskey on Sadie in the pool?

      • xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:24 pm

        that surprised me and yet as soon as it started . . . . Perfect in every way.

      • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:36 pm

        And the background music.
        QT is one crazy genius…

    • xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:46 pm

      I’ve only watched it once. Not enough. Gotta boot it up again. My younger son and I, before the pandemic, used to go to new Tarantino movies in Oakland. Seeing them with a crowd adds something.

  34. willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    Loo, wonder how many of May’s SF teammates are still alive?
    Felipe Cepeda and Marichal for sure but doubt they would have hung out much with him. I do think visiting black players coming to SF did.
    Mac is gone, have to look up some of others. Franks had him run OF and meeting with pitchers pregame to go over hitters. Maybe that made things little more awkward to begin with.

    • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:26 pm

      Willie had that nightmare first marriage, too…

    • willedav said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:28 pm

      Willie Kirkland is still alive, so is Ed Bressoud off 1959 team. Wags, Andre Rodgers and Pagan have passed. Something to check out on B/R.
      Elrod Hendricks said something funny about Frank Robinson and his problems trying to manage pitchers: “It’s because you hated them as a hitter.”

      • djloo27 said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:33 pm

        The late Elrod was at my friend’s wedding 20 some years ago.
        Awesome dude.
        I let him bring up the Agee catch…

  35. snarkk said, on August 27, 2022 at 9:34 pm

    This just in.
    Giants stink…

  36. xoot said, on August 27, 2022 at 10:01 pm

    saw someone retweet a Schulman tweet — he’s still at it, a bit — sneering about free-runner Gonzalez trying to advance to 3B on a grounder hit in front of him. So, yeah, must’ve been another fuck up.

  37. willedav said, on August 28, 2022 at 7:14 am

    After the Alvin Dark blowup about black and latin ballplayers not being as intelligent, wasn’t Mays the peacekeeper, as Cepeda led other faction were gonna refuse to play for him?


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