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A Final Word From The North Star State

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 20, 2022

There is no way the Flap could properly end without a nice long thread from this man. Stix, for a long time we wondered if you were dead—with nothing but a few online articles about your terribly unfair incarceration to find on the internet, it was a fair assumption. Then you came back–something Twinfan and probably some of the others were never able to do. Your *resurrection* was one of my favorite things about this long run the Flap has been on. Thanks for everything you did for the guys here. You showed us that hope can be a real thing. It’s good to believe in something once in a while…..

Carstie ClausenWed, Oct 19, 6:44 PM (11 hours ago)
to me, carstie

Flav:  Guess maybe I’ve been quietly mourning the immanent demise of the Flap.  You’ve done one helluva job keeping all this together on a friggen DAILY basis for all these years.  Congratulations, kudos and best wishes.  As the publisher of Minnesota’s most broadly read monthly newspaper Common Sense: A Northwoods Journal for a total of 56 editions, including doing half the writing (or more) almost all the photography, all the bookwork and general accounting AND servicing the nation’s second longest paper-route from May of ’73 to Jan. of ’79…I probably could write a book about burnout.

 So after seeing “where’s stix” from WilleDav and an “I dunno”, from you, maybe it’s high time to not only surrender, but also fess up.  You see, I’m not only a FANatic (SFG’s exclusively) but also a maniac.  Well, maybe not the type of that ilk that most folks could roll right off their tongues, but as someone who gets caught up in manias.  Over the past nearly 3 months it was an average of six hours per day lovingly toiling at the old homestead, totally rebuilding a freestanding rubble-stone wall around the perhaps 160 foot perimeter of the central garden.  No mud!  So first, it was digging out the old wall, which was built onto the oval edge of the central garden, as that was the only way I could eliminate the combination of reed-canary and quack grasses, accompanied by goldenrod which had infiltrated the garden from the “moat” around the whole raised-bed structure.   When the goldenrod and reed-canary roots mutually entangle it may be somewhat akin to two drunk octopuses fucking. After that, it was assembling pebbles beneath the new combination of stones so that the infiltration would not be so apt to take over during my five plus years of “vacation”.

 The rocks had come from several townships in my county and overlapped to about three other jurisdictions.  Happening mostly in the 70’s and somewhat in the early 80’s with the able assistance of the Bullshit Valley Special (my now on blocks ’49 Chevy pickup; I was the biggest rock pile thief in all of Clearwater County.  One time as was loading up at a rock pile I’d spotted in an abandoned cow pasture, the owner came up in his slightly newer rig and his first words were “Oh, you’re TAKING rocks.  You can take all of them if you want to and there are more in my fields if they’re not enough”.

 A week ago yesterday was the most recent adventure, as the weather was about to take for the worse, from 75 degrees last Tuesday to 15 above (thank goodness for that) yesterday morning.  All at the same time, by late Wednesday I got the first symptoms of the worst cold (and longest-blasting) during my 78 years.  No energy.  Brainfog.  Still minor hangover-type symptoms, but most of energy is back and no longer need to sleep more than 12 hours per 24.

                                                                                                                                                — A Preview of Coming Attractions —

 Now for my main course, the future of  Los Gigantes.  Nice to see the LaBumbos crash and burn.  Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving bunch of the best athletes big money could buy to attempt to finally get another championship.  Next year they will hafta gaze up at Oracle and see those 2010,2012 and 2014 Halloween Machine banners and grunt and moan.  At least they have the consolation of making the Big Buck$.  Roberts must be pulling his hair out and the Googs hafta be wondering why they paid all that $$$ for the first Championship since’88, obtain that highest run-differential in multiple decades and still fall flatter than the top of a pool-table.

 So here’s the beginning of the good news.  Mark your long-range calendars: 2024 should maybe be circled.  Wouldja believe an all homegrown outfield featuring both speed and power?  A dream too good to be true ever since the strapped owner traded off a passel of high level outfielders back there in the Dark Ages following #24’s retirement and all those gawd-awful trades.

 Speed?  Hard to distinguish between Vaun Brown, a 24 y.o. Tenth round signee from clear back in ’21 and Grant McCray, 21, who was a 2019 pickup, but dealt with injuries over his post-Covid intro in 2021. Brown vaulted all the way from San Jose at low A, through high at Eugene and finished off at Richmond in AA and amassed 43 steals over those 3 levels.  McCray bounced from S.J. up to Eugene and guess what???  43 steals.  Two of em with Willie Mays stolen base levels.  So which one bats lead-off? McCray could get the nod with his nine triples, but then his 170 whiffs vs. 67 BB’s signals a need to learn to be more discerning at the plate…but then again at 21 and likely to face some pretty formidable Eastern League pitching at Richmond, he maybe needs some personal attention from our new G.M. who is said to be a player development specialist, as well as daily suggestions from his hitting coach and perhaps also if the Flying Squirrels possess a veteran catcher.  One shouldn’t sniff at a 383 OBP, but compared with Brown’s sixth best in MiLB sizzling .437, perhaps the first nod would go to Brown for game openers.

 Youth?  Had yet to mention the Giants’ #3 prospect Luis Matos who will not even achieve legal drinking age until early next year.  By baseball standards of today, Matos is not at all a big dude, what at 5’11” and a wispy 160 pounds.  However, when the kid from Venezuela launches into one, those skyrockets could match the production of many an MLB slugger.  He had a rough season, relatively speaking, at Eugene this past season as a quad injury had messed badly with his performance at the plate, as compared for last year at San Jose, where he wowed Baby Giants fans with his slashing stick.  In the latter part of the N.W. League season, he rebounded with some drive and then his first few days in the Arizona prospect league he started off with a bang, sagged for a spell and later on caught his rhythm once again.  Most serious Giants fanatics already know quite a bit about Matos so I won’t add any more details.  Likely in ’23 his season once again commences at Eugene, but a quick return to form might land him in Virginia where the warm, humid summer breezes may enable the tropical tornado to strut his stuff.

 Back to Brown who will begin at Richmond, let’s fill in some more stats.  Oh, yes, power.  Well, the poor guy could not even slam a couple dozen dingers as he topped out at 23.  Ah, not too bad after some of the outfield “products” the Giants developed in the past bunch of years. However, when we have a look at that sterling .437 OBP, topped in the minors by only five other guys, we can all take note.  Now, throw in his SP of 623 which was third best in all the minors and we conclude with an OPS at 1.060 adding up to numero Uno in MiLB and we have a winner.  Ditto with his .346 B.A.  Yeah, I can see that guy leading off for S.F. in the not very distant future as a threat not dissimilar to Ricky Henderson with that speed/power combo.  If Brown stays healthy and can handle E.L. pitching, he may even get to skip Sacramento and make The Show at some point in the second half.

 Still young and amenable to upgrades, McCray had him a good year at those two levels. He excelled at S.J. where he set a baby Giants record as their first 20-20 HR’s & SB’s since that city replaced Fresno as the neighborhood development center.  His 897 OBP at the two levels, with a .a514 S.P. setting the pace.  Perhaps Grant could bat immediately after Brown in the two-hole as he scored a total of 104 runs this past season on 141 hits, with 20 doubles bringing him to 52 XBH’s and contributing to his 79 RBI’s.

 Batman and Robin were known as the Dynamic Duo.  Could SF go into the ’24 season with a Dynamic Trio in the O.F.?  Could happen…and if it doesn’t there are a couple more outfielders in the pipeline who look promising.  Exciting and dynamic outfield.  So the logical take on 2023 outfield acquisitions by Zaidi and Peppermint Pete might be limited to two lines of approach.  They could focus on a relatively inexpensive power-bat who is in his mid to late 30’s, a Ruf replacement so to speak.  Or…they could offer someone like Brandon Nimmo a front-loaded two year contract to the 30 y.o.  Mutual options.  Absence of a no-trade clause.

 First base and shortstop along with a second ace (DeGrom?) may be the likely acquisition targets.  Maybe add in a competent veteran (preferably L.H) setup man and a post-season run centering on 90 wins could be in the offing in ’23.  Should Harrison smother E.L. hitters early along, a rotation consisting of Webb, DeGrom and Harrison could bring on a 2010 S.F. surprise.

…at the tag end comes my sneaky part.  I’m hoping this vision of the future might help make a couple or more of the Flappers to get up a weekly replacement as a cooperative venture.  Otherwise…Man, I’m sure gonna miss you guys.



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  1. Flavor said, on October 20, 2022 at 6:41 am

    btw, there was a lot of gold in the comments of that Cody Ross thread but my favorite had to be the first post. After that heartfelt, emotional main thread the first post is Twin and he says this:
    Michael said, on October 19, 2010 at 6:39 pm (Edit)
    I’m going to repeat this from the last thread: I want updates from Stix, John, and Kevin on their PCs. I’ve given up on Ferret. But it’s fucking rude, boys. If you don’t know how to hook up or operate a goddamn computer, don’t enter a contest to win one.

    LOL, that was classic twin

  2. willedav said, on October 20, 2022 at 6:55 am

    Ah good to hear from Stix. Giants do have prospects on the way, gotta hope they pan out and get some new blood out there, sooner the better.

  3. Giant Head said, on October 20, 2022 at 7:53 am

    Too bad we can’t hear Stix’s musings come 2024 about the prospects panning out or not but I think l would want Rodon over DeGrom. DeGrom May be too injury prone with that arm of his and how he throws…

    • Flavor said, on October 20, 2022 at 8:14 am

      you’re getting neither of them

      • Giant Head said, on October 20, 2022 at 8:21 am

        I would bet you are right…

      • sandog said, on October 20, 2022 at 9:33 am

        Z doesn’t pay top dollar for pitchers, and that is one of things I love about him.  Let some other chump break the bank for Rodon and DeGromm.  Z is always about finding the NEXT Gausman/Rodon type guy.  And he is pretty damn good at doing that.

  4. Giant Head said, on October 20, 2022 at 8:22 am

    Speaking of betting…solid win by the Astros and huge Pads comeback.

  5. Flavor said, on October 20, 2022 at 8:55 am

    btw, that was a hell of a post by Stix. One of his best of all time. For the rest of my life I’ll be wondering what 2 octopuses fucking looks like.

    • Winder said, on October 20, 2022 at 9:48 am

      A knot. My whole yard is full of Roots. Replacing fences and sewer lines never let me forget.
      Thanks Stix.

      • unca_chuck said, on October 20, 2022 at 11:33 am

        Yeah, no on DeGrom. Rodon will be priced out. Don’t care. Wood and DeScaffolding will have to do with Webbie and Junis. Shiot, even the pen seemed to settle down by the end of the season. 1 starter, a couple relievers, and a couple OFers and we should be decent enough.

        Farhan babbling about Belt and Longo has me worried though.

        Winder, got a sewer line problem that I’ve been ignoring for 4 years now. Every year the county fucks blow out the main line on our cul de sac and it backs up my line. After I get it cleared (80 feet down my line, it’ll back up a couple more times for good measure. Plus, it’s 70 year old terra cotta, and must be cracked/broken in a few places. Someone planted an oak tree above the line about 30 years ago, and the tree is ginormous. So there’s big problems down there.

        They keep telling me they need to scope it to find out the real damage, but I don’t want to know. And I don’t want to pay $20,000 for a new line.

      • Winder said, on October 20, 2022 at 2:21 pm

        Yeah, I feel your pain. My main cause is two sequoias in my neighbors yard about 25 feet from my line.

  6. unca_chuck said, on October 20, 2022 at 11:35 am

    If Stix could get access to post here, he could roll through the winter as Flav’s stand-in.

    We should be paying to read his stuff!! it is most excellent.

  7. unca_chuck said, on October 20, 2022 at 11:38 am

    I mean really, is there nothing you can’t find? What a trip. And I thought bar-hopping was depressing.

    • snarkk said, on October 20, 2022 at 1:26 pm

      So, the Octopi are like salmon.
      Mate and then die slowly.
      Unless the female goes all Fatal Attraction on the male just after he’s done.
      If I’m a male octopus, I’m wondering if there is any Octuporn out there — could extend your life quite a bit…

      • unca_chuck said, on October 20, 2022 at 2:07 pm

        I don’t know. 8 arms and the octopecker can get pretty tiring.

  8. unca_chuck said, on October 20, 2022 at 2:09 pm

    The one thing I’d say to Stix is, no more lefties. SS is covered by Crawfish (nothing to do about that) and Luciano for 2023. We NEED a RH power hitting OFer. And 1st baseman. And Nimmo.

  9. zumiee said, on October 20, 2022 at 4:07 pm

    That was pretty definitive win by the Warriors over the Lakers. The Warriors were saying: “OK, LeBron, you and a couple of other guys on your team are very good; but you three have to go to the bench sometimes to rest, and our reserves are better than yours.” That game had to be a sobering bit of reality for the Lakers.

    • willedav said, on October 20, 2022 at 5:28 pm

      Bench for Warriors should contribute a lot. Guy they let walk Damion Lee got game winning hoop for Suns last night.

  10. zumiee said, on October 20, 2022 at 4:09 pm

    LeBron should blow past Kareem’s total points record; but it wouldn’t be surprising if LeBron injures a hamstring and has to miss half the season.

    • snarkk said, on October 20, 2022 at 4:26 pm

      I think the scoring record has to be compared to field goals/free throw mix. LeBron played in a completely 3-point era. Kareem did not — the first half of his career had no 3 pointer.
      That said, the last 10 years of Kareem’s career had the 3 pointer, but he barely tried it. He made one, one, in his entire career. Lebron has made 2143 three-pointers to date; so that’s about 6500 of his career points coming on 3-pointers vs. just one 3-pointer, or 3 career points off of 3 pointers for Kareem. If all LeBron’s FG shots made were two-pointers, he’d be back of Kareem another 2100+ points where he is now.
      Kareem is currently sitting at career field goals made of 15,837 to Lebron’s 13,555. So Kareem has about 2300 more field goals, all 2 pointers save 1. I say Kareem is still the all time points leader if you call it by field goals made, disregarding how many points they counted for…

    • snarkk said, on October 20, 2022 at 4:33 pm

      Rick Barry had just over 25,000 total career points. Only 76 field goals of his career were 3 pointers, coming in his last season ’79-’80 when the 3 pointer came into play. I’m guessing if the 3 pointer existed for his entire career, he’d have had over 30,000 points…

  11. zumiee said, on October 20, 2022 at 4:12 pm

    There’s a strong chance Boone gets fired if the Yanks lose this series.
    Maybe Roberts survives the Dodgers’ early exit.

  12. unca_chuck said, on October 20, 2022 at 6:05 pm

    I just don’t get the Lakers getting Westbrick AND Beverly. They are two of the WORST shooters in the league. They are gonna live and die by LBJ and AD getting 80+ a game and praying to get anything from everyone else.

  13. Flavor said, on October 20, 2022 at 6:30 pm

    I don’t have a strong feeling about the scoring record. Barry and Kareem didn’t take 3s but they got the benefit of getting to just pour in 2’s. Threes are harder.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 20, 2022 at 7:18 pm

      Barry was a great long distance shooter and he would have benefitted wildly.

  14. unca_chuck said, on October 20, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    Holy shit. Niners traded for McCaffery. He can join Elijah Mitchell in the hot tub.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 20, 2022 at 8:28 pm

      Apparently it’s for draft picks but I don’t know how many.

  15. alleykat69 said, on October 20, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    McCaffrey deal is 2023 2nd rd pick 2024 4th rd pick and Tyrion Davis Price I can live with that if and a big if CMC stays healthy and not just another IR Niner

  16. willedav said, on October 21, 2022 at 7:38 am

    Adding CMac to Kittle Deebo and Aiyuk, with that D, should produce fireworks. NFC West there for taking, even if they split next 2 and Rams were in on him too. Read Niners 25th in first downs…that should change dramatically given weapons at Shanahan’s disposal.

    • unca_chuck said, on October 21, 2022 at 8:02 am

      Well, we should be better that the 18th ranked offense even without him. Or 20th in points scored.

      Shanahan is supposed to be an offensive genius. He’s Vanilla Ice Cream. Down 14 points with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter, he goes on an 8 minute drive that scores 0 points. No hurry-up. No no-huddle. Just a plodding drive that he gagged up at the end. with two dumb calls. He’s never met a 3rd and 1 he can’t fuck up.

      The 49ers need a play caller. Plain and simple.

  17. willedav said, on October 21, 2022 at 8:25 am

    Marichal turned 85 yesterday. check out his B/R numbers from 60s seasons sometime…unreal

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